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La Table de Joel Robuchon to close - Forever??? :(

askdrtodd Oct 12, 2010 06:45 AM

I love Joel's Food. I've eaten at a few of his restaurants and really enjoyed the concept and the service at all of them. My wife and I are finally taking our birthday & baby-making trip to Paris (11/17-11/21) and they're closing La Table indefinitely on 11/15 per the gentleman I just spoke with on the phone. I was really looking forward to that 59 euro club menu with wine inclusive.

The gentleman said they would be opening a new restaurant closer to the Arc, but he wasn't aware if the new place would be open yet.

My plan for our food was to eat a two or three lunches/dinners in the 50 euro/pp range, one dinner around 150 euros/pp and bistros/brasseries/etc for other food.

We'd planned to do

Lunch:

La Table
Chez L'Ami Jean
Les Fables de la Fontaine
Les Cocottes

Dinner:

Le Chateaubriand (how does one make reservations here? I can never get anyone to answer the phone)
L'Atelier du Joel Robuchon

I know people constantly post up the "please review my list of restaurants in Paris" but if anyone has any input on these, and a comparable alternative to La Table, I would be eternally grateful. I've been doing as much ChowHound-Research as possible, but it's getting close to the point I'll need to have reservations complete for some of these spots for my trip.

Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart.

  1. Delucacheesemonger Oct 12, 2010 07:04 AM

    l would call CAJ at 3 PM their time, 9AM your time on any day but Monday. Phone is 011 331 47 05 86 89. Atelier you can reserve on their website without grief. Many of your other choices can have same day reservation by phone or walking in and asking them. Le Cinq has lunch for 78 euro/pp, Rostang 95 euro with all beverages, Savoy has a 100 euro with no beverages that must be asked for when calling. Hope this helps.

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    1. re: Delucacheesemonger
      askdrtodd Oct 12, 2010 10:23 AM

      Thanks DCM! Any idea if L'Atelier has a lunch prix fixe like La Table?

      Between Taillevent and Le Cinq which would you choose?

      Going to try to make reservations for Frenchie and Le Chateaubriand, is this going to be impossible?

      1. re: askdrtodd
        Parigi Oct 12, 2010 10:24 AM

        "Between Taillevent and Le Cinq which would you choose?"

        My vote goes to Le Cinq.

        "Going to try to make reservations for Frenchie and Le Chateaubriand, is this going to be impossible?"

        Mais non mais non. Keep trying.

        1. re: askdrtodd
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          ekc Oct 12, 2010 11:11 AM

          Just had dinner a couple of weeks ago at Taillevent and it was divine. Just my 2 cents.

      2. juliemarie8 Oct 12, 2010 06:19 PM

        You just never know...when I was in Paris in May, I unexpectedly changed my flight to stay longer, so I suddenly had some available nights. I called Chateaubriand at 10am and no one answered, but when I called again at 12:30pm to ask if they had any availability that night, I happened to get the last table. Of course it was early at 7:30pm, but the food was still great! All that to say...if I could snag a table the day of, then surely you'll be able to get one within a couple weeks out. A lot of people say to call between 11:30am-12:30pm France time so you get them at the beginning of service before it's too busy.

        I'm no expert, but here's my opinion...CLAJ was my favorite, then Les Fables, then Chateaubriand, then Les Cocottes. CLAJ is fun to experience, no matter what. Although Les Fables may have had the best food in the bunch, L'Ami Jean had the whole experience...great food, great atmosphere, made friends w/ the table next to us, good times. But I had read tons about it, including all the bad reviews, so I went in with low expectations knowing it could be rushed & rude service, confusing, maybe I wouldn't like the food, who knows! So go in w/ low expectations and maybe you'll end up one of the lucky people like me who had a fantastic time! Get the chef's tasting menu, he knows what he's doing! And it's fun to be surprised. CLAJ & Les Fables will both be my first visits in March.

        Les Cocottes, my friend and I walked in Thursday night and got a table...it was packed and we had to wait a little while, but no big deal. Get the pied de cochon if they have it. Trust me when I say holy deliciousness batman.

        Chateaubriand, yes, also just to experience it and to have tried it. Everyone says they have glorious nights and they have so-so nights. I think I got them on a so-so night, but even then, the flavors were unique, the presentations were beautiful, it was an experience. I'll definitely go back there, and if I get them on a glorious night, all the better!

        If you're interested in more detail, I posted my experience at Les Fables, Les Cocottes, & Chateabriand here:

        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/713646?tag=boards;topic-713646

        and CLAJ here:

        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7133...

        Have so much fun!! Jealous you'll be there so soon!! :)

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        1. re: juliemarie8
          askdrtodd Oct 13, 2010 06:03 AM

          Julie-

          You are awesome. Thank you X 1,000,000.

          1. re: juliemarie8
            askdrtodd Oct 13, 2010 06:08 AM

            I called Frenchie, CAJ, and Le Chateaubriand again this morning (1pm in France?), still no luck getting a warm body on the other end, unfortunately my french is "faible" :(

            What are the chances if I keep trying but never get a hold of anyone that I could show up early for lunch or dinner, wait until they open, and they'd let us in without a reservation?

            1. re: askdrtodd
              PhilD Oct 13, 2010 12:42 PM

              Is Le Chateaubriand still open for lunch? If it isn't that explains why no one answered. Frenchie will be mid service at 1:00 so chances are the lone FOH waiter won't answer - try at 12:00, CAJ is a mystery as the person in the bar usually answers the phone.

              1. re: askdrtodd
                juliemarie8 Oct 13, 2010 01:22 PM

                Yah I would keep trying. I think for all 3, if you just show up, chances are slim. And that will be frustrating trying to find a back-up plan when you're hungry. Except maybe CAJ lunch, depending on the day. And I think Phil's right, Chateaubriand stopped serving lunch. I don't know how I caught them at that time. When I was making reservations from the states, I called on my lunch break, around 6:30-7pm France time, right at the beginning of dinner service, so it was probably still slow enough that they could answer a phone. All the restaurants answered that I called. Maybe try that!

                1. re: juliemarie8
                  askdrtodd Oct 21, 2010 11:29 AM

                  can someone help me out here? I keep trying CAJ, Frenchie, and Le Chateaubriand and I can never get anyone on the phone! My trip is less than a month away and I'm dying to check these places out, please please please help!!!

                  1. re: askdrtodd
                    PhilD Oct 21, 2010 12:18 PM

                    I must ask the obvious question (it has been a problem before on the board), are you dialling the right numbers for France?

                    CAJ whose local number is: 01 47 05 86 89, translates into: 011 33 1 47 05 86 89 (i.e. you drop the 0 between the 33 and the 1) from the US.

                    1. re: PhilD
                      Delucacheesemonger Oct 21, 2010 12:22 PM

                      Exactly as l gave him in my post 10 days ago.

                      1. re: Delucacheesemonger
                        PhilD Oct 21, 2010 12:25 PM

                        Very true - but if he is using numbers from the web he may not have dropped the zero - not an uncommon problem.

                        1. re: PhilD
                          J_A_A Oct 21, 2010 05:34 PM

                          If you skype, it is 0033147058689

                          1. re: J_A_A
                            askdrtodd Oct 25, 2010 05:57 AM

                            I do use skype on my iphone, but I just use +33 then 01... it's worked for other numbers in france and I've been able to make reservations at other places, but they've been the more high-end or tourist friendly spots (Taillevent and L'Atelier), although I've canceled those reservations because I'd rather eat at places like CAJ and Chateaubriand...

                            When I call Chateaubriand I get a voicemail that may be saying that they are booked for a while, but I'm not certain because my french is weak :(

                            When I call CAJ I always get a busy signal.

                            1. re: askdrtodd
                              askdrtodd Oct 26, 2010 12:21 PM

                              WOO HOO!!!! Got a res for CAJ and Les Fables! (happy dance!)

                              Still no luck with Chateaubriand though. Darnit, been trying for like a month now.

                              1. re: askdrtodd
                                J_A_A Oct 26, 2010 01:14 PM

                                At what time do you call? It usually takes me 3 minutes to speak to them. Called and booked yesterday again...

                                1. re: J_A_A
                                  askdrtodd Oct 27, 2010 05:10 AM

                                  I've tried calling around lunchtime paris time, I've tried around 8pm paris time, what number are you calling? is there something you have to hit after the machine picks up? helllllp!! :)

                                2. re: askdrtodd
                                  juliemarie8 Oct 27, 2010 07:26 AM

                                  Yay!!!!! I was about to start calling for you, too!!

                                  1. re: juliemarie8
                                    askdrtodd Oct 27, 2010 12:27 PM

                                    Julie you = awesome. I just tried Chateaubriand again, it should be 8:30pm in Paris. Same message. calling 33.01.43.57.45.95. :(

                                    1. re: askdrtodd
                                      Parigi Oct 27, 2010 12:29 PM

                                      Calling from outside France? Just dial
                                      331 4357 4595.

                                      1. re: Parigi
                                        J_A_A Oct 27, 2010 01:24 PM

                                        Yeah 33 01 is wrong
                                        And 8.30 is a bad time, call at 6.
                                        Try and never call during service,, they usually never pick up ( this works at every restaurant in Paris basically

                                        1. re: J_A_A
                                          askdrtodd Oct 27, 2010 01:31 PM

                                          Thanks, I'll try at 6pm paris time tomorrow. up to now I've been using 33.01... and it's gotten me through to all the other restaurants...

                                          1. re: askdrtodd
                                            J_A_A Oct 27, 2010 01:33 PM

                                            That's weird but might depend from where you're calling I guess

                                            1. re: J_A_A
                                              askdrtodd Oct 28, 2010 10:47 AM

                                              This is getting annoying, I've called almost every day for the past 3 weeks at different times of day each time, every time it rings 4 times and i get the same voicemail message that hangs up at the end. I can't get a human being on the phone. :(

                                          2. re: J_A_A
                                            PhilD Oct 28, 2010 12:10 PM

                                            Good advice, calling during the height of service isn't sensible, the hour before is best. The "33 01" is definitely wrong - don't know why askdrtodd won't believe us.

                                            1. re: PhilD
                                              askdrtodd Oct 28, 2010 12:59 PM

                                              I believe you guys! I'm calling with Skype, if I try to call without the zero first it keeps telling me that I have an invalid #.

                                              1. re: askdrtodd
                                                J_A_A Oct 28, 2010 02:23 PM

                                                I called them with Skype 2 days ago with 0033143574595 and I spoke to them, and I'm all booked for dinner on the 10th of November :) It was 1pm Paris time. Good luck

                                                1. re: J_A_A
                                                  askdrtodd Oct 29, 2010 05:24 AM

                                                  Nice. Do you use the + first? I've been dialing +33 01 43 57 45 95 and get 4 rings and then a voicemail, but that method has worked for CAJ, Fables, the hotel, and all the other places we're going. huh. I'll try your method right now (1pm ish)

                                                  OK the 00 thing didn't work but it did the same thing when i did 33.1.43etc (left out the 0 before the 1)

                2. adrian Dec 2, 2010 01:00 PM

                  La Table is closed. The new Atelier in the Drugstore Publicis is open with their staff..

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                  1. re: adrian
                    souphie Mar 8, 2011 04:53 AM

                    And without the wonderful value lunch menu.

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