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Kin Shop in West Village - just opened

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Kin Shop
469 6th Ave, New York, NY 10011

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  1. I thought tonight was the very first night....

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    1. re: kathryn

      you're right. didn't realize that. going on Sat

    2. I just stopped in and tried a few things. The pork/oyster salad was great...about the only criticism I could muster is that the oysters didn't stay crispy long enough. I also had the braised rabbit which was really nice too. They could kick up the spice levels a bit, but they also give you a little bowl of spicy pepper to help yourself, so it's really not an issue.
      Even though it was the second day, they were operating pretty smoothly, and it looks like it's going to be a great little place.

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      1. re: streamwise

        thanks. will report back after we try it

      2. Loved it. Agree the oysters could have been more crispy. The other starter we had was the pork meatball soup. Very flavorful. The duck entree was amazing. Very succulent. Red snapper green curry was also good, but cold have used a little more sauce -- also the snapper was on the rare side, something to know if you aren't into that. The wide noodles with chicken sausage were good, but not as flavorful as the other dishes. Next time want to try the crab noodles. And the ladies both enjoyed their phooket fizz drink

        1. Went on Saturday night for the first time. Don't think the flavors quite hit the mark in the way they do at Perilla. We had the goat curry which was good, steak tartare which didn't hit the mark in terms of spicing, crab noodles which were only OK because they tasted too salty, like too much Maggi liquid seasoning had been added and the eggplant which wasn't great as some pieces were waaay too al dente. They were sold out of the pork/oyster combo which was my first choice. We love love love Perilla and hope Harold will iron out these kinks in the kitchen.

          9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

          1. We recently went to Kin Shop, and had a fantastic meal. I was thinking I might end up disappointed, because I think Perilla is one of the best spots in the city, so I had high expectations, but Harold did not disappoint. Starting off, service was wonderful. Enthusiastic server who really knew the menu and could explain how the different dishes were prepared. For starters, we got the eggplant, scallops, and squid ink-hot oil soup.
            We actually got a very consistent prep of eggplant unlike the prior poster, no al dente or bitter pieces; was one of our favorite dishes. The squid ink soup was a gorgeous deep black color, with pieces of squid stuffed with spiced brisket. It definitely had some heat which complemented the earthiness of the broth, though would have liked to get more of the squid flesh flavor. The scallops-oh so nice to have a properly cooked scallop, can't understand how so many places get it wrong! Nice flavors including coconut, though a bit bland compared to the other dishes.
            For entrees, we got the maitake mushroom/noodle broth on the rec of our server, as well as a sea bass special with wet curry, and steamed rabbit with eggplant chutney, multigrain rice in a yellow curry. The noodles had nice chew to them, made for a pleasant side item to the others though not a standout dish. The sea bass was good, with some mild heat, and some nice herbal flavor as a backdrop. The real mindblower, though, was the rabbit: moist/perfectly cooked, with delicate flavor that nonetheless came through, combined with the sweetness of the chutney and sour spiciness of the curry. Wow. I could have eaten a dinner just of that.
            For dessert, they only have one main option plus some ice creams; we tried the passionfruit pudding with buttermilk sorbet. The pudding was fine, though that isn't my favorite style of dessert. The sorbet was like nothing I have ever tasted; very airy and light, yet with a sense of the denseness of buttermilk. A strange combination that worked wonderfully, IMHO.
            BTW, for those planning to go, apparently the dishes are meant to be shared, which is what we did. However, if you want to go it alone, the dishes are about the same size as normal starters/entrees.
            All in all, a fantastic meal especially for the price: right around $150 for 3 including tax and tip (and a couple of beers) We definitely plan to frequent it!

            9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

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            1. re: orthorunner

              You're making me wish I'd actually tried the ice cream or sorbet for dessert. The dessert menu just didn't sound so interesting at the time, though!

              I got the massaman goat like jellygood and thought it was excellent, definitely as good if not better than Perilla in its heyday. (I think Perilla's slipped in the past year or two.) The goat was a slice of neck, I think, and left on the bone, which I like. And it came with these beautiful diced purple yams, sauteed greens and shredded coconut. The dish had HUGE flavors.

              Also liked my appetizer, a special of fried duck tongue and green papaya salad. The breading didn't stay crispy and was a little hard (it sounds like between the oysters and the tongue, Dieterle should just drop the breading thing, huh?), but again, the flavors were spot on.

              On the other hand I really didn't like my dining companion's tomato soup, which came with these strange, hard granules of mung beans and tofu.

              I didn't think the prices were all that inexpensive, at least not for the kind of casual neighborhood place that Kin Shop presents itself as. Two appetizers, two entrees and two cocktails set us back a little over $100, not including tip.

              9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

            2. Went last night for the first time, and was very impressed. The duck laab was the best rendition I have ever had, and I order that dish ever time I see it on a menu. It was spicy, not too citrus, and somehow the bits of meat were just the right size to keep a little of their warmth and texture. The pork belly and oyster dish also left me wanting more. The oysters were perfectly crispy (although three of us split it so they didn't have much time to cool down) and it was maybe the best bite of pork belly I've had since I first discovered David Chang.
              The eggplant was the one dish that really disappointed me. As jellygood noted, some of the pieces seemed a little crunchy and bitter. The crab noodles were delicious, massive, and full of tender chunks of crab. The duck roti was rich with full clean flavors. My only complaint is that there didnt seem to be enough of it. Six smallish slices of duck breast for 24 dollars seems steep to me, but it's pretty filling when wrapped in the roti pancakes. The goat massaman was truly beautifully cooked. Even well cooked goat often maintains a little tough gaminess, and this chunk of meat was truly melting. We got extra rice just so we could make sure to enjoy every drop of the curry sauce.
              Finally, the thai pickle dirty martini was extremely delicious. Next time I really want to try some of their more unusual beers, but the truth is I would always be happy to make a dinner out of that martini and a double order of duck laab.

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              1. re: bworm42

                nice review...this place is pretty much going to be my first stop for dinner when i come back to NY...

              2. ate here last night. i live 3 blocks away and love perilla so i had high expectations. seriouseats recently did a very positive review of the place which interested me as well.

                the place: smaller than i expected. i never went to philippe's when it was around. the front area can get congested with diners coming in and out. not a totally great looking place but nice enough and a welcome respite from the faux 1920s places of the last few years.

                the service: pretty excellent. friendly FOH, friendly server. the server recommended nearly everything and didnt have a good understanding of the drinks menu but overall, she was solid.

                the food: ok...here we go. we had the scallops and the egg noodles with mushroom broth to start. both are rather plain and boring but even i had higher expectations. the scallops were 4 medium sized nuggets...cooked well but rather flavorless. i dusted some chili flakes on them which actually opened them up quite a bit. this would be the case with nearly everything i ate that night. the egg noodles were served in uncomfortable tiny bowls that you couldnt rest your fork on (i cant do chopsticks for noodles). they were rather flavorless. once again, the chili flakes made them a bit more interesting.

                we ordered the crab noodles and the massaman goat. the noodles were plentiful...we ended up leaving a bunch on the table. the noodles were limp and lame. very store bought and bland. very few pieces of crab. once again, the chili flakes opened things up quite a bit but i was sick of having everything with chili flakes at this point.

                the goat was cooked well and the curry sauce was yummy. it was probably the best dish of the night but barely. it was passable.

                verdict: this place is a huge meh. i didn't mind the meal. it was a nice night out but i wont return. cafe asean serves WAY BETTER hawker food 2-3 blocks away for 1/3 the price.

                i love dieterle and the place couldve been worse but its not a great restaurant either.

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                1. re: sam1

                  Interesting! Thanks for your take. We haven't tried any of the noodle dishes, yet. This colors my perspective. I will say that I enjoyed my massaman goat dish very, very much, though, and thought it was much more than passable.

                  If I may get off subject for a brief moment: What do you like at Cafe Asean? I haven't been there for about eight years!

                  Cafe Asean
                  117 W 10th St, New York, NY 10011

                  1. re: michelleats

                    um, its cheap, the portions are huge, nice outdoor space in the summer, and their fried noodle dishes are delicious and very similar to what ive had in singapore.

                    its not a destination restaurant but a great option in the area.

                    kin shop wasnt bad but i think my review may help others who have high expectations. im a dieterle fan but just wasnt impressed whatsoever with the food here. the seriouseats review touted kin shop as one of the most authentic and best thai places in nyc...i felt it was watered down thai for the masses.

                    1. re: sam1

                      Serious Eats called it authentic Thai? I don't think Dieterle calls it authentic Thai! (I don't think he calls it anything... maybe nouveau Thai or Thai inspired?) I like that he seems to be upfront about that.

                      Anyhoo... If you say Cafe Asean has food comparable to Singaporean hawker fare, I'm interested. I am in the neighborhood, so it won't be too destination-y for me.

                      Thanks, Sam, esp. for the writeup.

                      Cafe Asean
                      117 W 10th St, New York, NY 10011

                      1. re: sam1

                        Sam1, went to Cafe Asean because of your comments. You're right, it's good, especially for Malaysian specialties like tofu bakar. But there wasn't that much of a basis for comparison to Kin Shop -- at least not in what we tried. Cafe Asean is mostly Malaysian; Kin Shop is Thai-influenced. I think Cafe Asean relies on purchased (non-house made) sauces, sometimes doctored a bit; Kin Shop makes all of its own sauces from scratch and of course the prices reflect that. I like both, but I'll go to Cafe Asean for a casual, everyday meal out with my husband. Kin Shop is a more refined restaurant where we'd take our parents or visiting friends who care a great deal about food.

                        Thanks so much for reintroducing me to Cafe Asean, though. I do like the place.

                        Cafe Asean
                        117 W 10th St, New York, NY 10011

                    2. re: sam1

                      Ah, ok, he calls it "contemporary Thai". This is from a Zagat.com interview:

                      "Harold Dieterle: It’s a contemporary Thai place where I can have a lot of fun doing whatever I want. We’re doing some spins on traditional dishes and different types of curries. Also, original stuff with influences from Thai flavors and ingredients. It’s more contemporary, not the same sort of hodgepodge kind of menu you see at other traditional Thai restaurants."


                      1. re: michelleats


                        "Simply put, it's some of the best Thai food we've had outside Thailand. Eyebrow-raising good. Text-your-friends-from-the-table-good. Return-the-next-night good. We walked in with no particular expectations, and left absolutely floored by what Dieterle's kitchen had served us. "

                        "Dieterle's Pan Fried Crab Noodles ($21) are one of the best renditions of this dish we've tried, in Thailand or out."

                        "Where the average laab in the city is heavy on sugar and light on spice, Chef Dieterle holds no punches and goes for the classic, flavored primarily with dried chiles and toasted glutinous rice powder. It's one of the rare dishes on the menu that goes for straight authenticity with little by way of Western interpretation—and it's one of our favorite dishes on an extraordinary menu. "

                        1. re: sam1

                          Hey, thanks. This is the bit that makes me think Serious Eats isn't calling this authentic Thai for the most part: "It's one of the rare dishes on the menu that goes for straight authenticity with little by way of Western interpretation."

                      2. re: sam1

                        I had a mediocre experience here. I'm actually surprised by all of the rave reviews. I love thai and SriPraPhai is the best around and I thought this might be pretty decent.

                        We had the pumpkin salad (boring but tasty), the eggplant (pretty good), the massaman goat (OK but I've had MUCH better Massaman before) and the red curry duck (surely the winner of the night). The prices are just high for thai in general, and high for not such great thai. The place is pretty cool and the staff is nice, but they either need another bartender or a faster one.

                        Overall, eh experience. I'd rather take the trip to Woodside, pay 1/3 the amount, and eat 4x better.

                      3. I went last night with my SO and was very impressed (usually takes a lot to impress me).

                        We had the fried duck tongue and papaya salad (special) and eggplant to start. Both yummy. For entrees, we had the goat and rabbit curries. These were excellent; I think we ate nearly all of the sauces on the plates. The goat (and to a lesser extent, the rabbit) seemed to be very Indian-influenced, especially with the rotis.

                        Dessert was OK--thai iced tea ice cream was good, but the lychee was not. Just tasted like canned lychees and had large chunks of ice within it. We also had two cocktails. The ALN (gin and pickle martini) was good, but the bourbon drink was so/so.

                        It is a little pricey--certainly not an everyday kind of place. But I look forward to going back for another nice dinner out.

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                        1. re: umisquirrel

                          Southern provinces of Thailand are predominantly Muslim, as I understand it, and their ancestors emigrated from India over the past 2000 years. Massaman curry and roti are both dishes from Southern Thailand, so, yes, definitely Indian influenced.


                          1. re: kathryn

                            Not exactly, Kathryn. Massaman does indeed mean Muslim, but it refers to the Malays who live in Patani and other parts of Southern Thailand. Malays' ancestors didn't immigrate from India (though there has been plenty of intermarriage, all-round); in fact, it's widely held that their ancestors once lived in southern China. But Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam were introduced to at least many of the Malays by Indian traders and missionaries. It's more complicated than that because Malays on the East Coast of the Peninsula were introduced to Islam first, possibly by a Chinese Muslim, and Persian Muslims were also among the early Muslim traders in Malacca, on the West Coast, but suffice it to say that Malay culture and food has been suffused with Indian influence for thousands of years.

                        2. Wen a few days ago for the first time. I was impressed, even though I thought it was rather pricey for what it is. The duck laab was searing hot but delicious. Exquisite torture. The pork belly and crispy oyster salad was amazing. The crab noodles were delicious, though I agree with sam1 that there was not enough crab in it, expecially for $21. The goat curry was delicious. We had some very good beers, though they too were very high priced. Definitely worth a return visit.

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                          1. re: rrems

                            I went with five other people recently and wasn't too impressed but I LOVED the pork belly and crispy oyster salad. One of the best appetizers I had in a long time (actually, I wish I could have doubled the size and eaten it as an entree). In general I thought the proteins were well executed but all the sauces were off. Other than the pork and oyster salad, my favorite things were the vegetable side dishes.

                            The FOH and servers were young, warm, and enthusiastic.

                          2. As of today open for lunch. I had roti, sauteed vegies with water chestnuts, and crab noodles. The roti were pleasant, the vegies decent.
                            The crab noodle were conceptual, something like, "Noodles Once Saw Crabs From Afar". Spectacularly aggressively priced at $21.00 it was OK.
                            So one decent, a pleasant and an OK.
                            The entrance for the F train to Roosevelt-Jackson is steps away from Kin Shop.

                            1. Liked but did not love Kin Shop last night. Liked the seared scallops, came with a nice sauce (wished it was bolder), crispy shallots and coconut. Seared well, small portion of only 3 scallops, but we enjoyed them and they were cooked correctly (barely opaque in the center). Spicy duck laab was very, very spicy, I think some the ingredients weren't incorporated well as I got a few bites of mostly onions? Good but monotonous after a while. Wished for rice or something to temper the heat. Liked the grilled eggplant, but thought the Thai apple eggplants were a bit undercooked whereas the western style eggplant was just right. I'd probably get the scallops and laab again, perhaps not the eggplant.

                              Loved the yellow rabbit curry, as the rabbit was so flavorful, tender. The curry sauce that came with it was great as was the eggplant chutney on top. Flavors melded together in a nice way and it was very balanced. The duck with roti was not what I expected. I found eating the duck breast pieces in the roti to be a bit awkward since duck breast is always a little chewy and the roti seemed too thick in comparison. Really liked the fresh herbs and green mango it came with, but the tamarind sauce was only OK. And I couldn't figure out where the red curry part was. Wonton noodles with chicken sausage were decent but seemed like a competent but unexciting dish. I didn't really understand the point of the chicken sausage, as it all fell to the bottom of the bowl. Of the three, the rabbit really stood out. Probably wouldn't order the other two again.

                              Overall, nice flavors, but I wanted bolder, louder, more. Only one dish was truly spicy and bold. I do give them props for making all the curry pastes in house. Also the "curries" are more like "composed proteins presented with a bit of curry sauce," not a big bowl of curry, which is what I think I wanted since the sauces were so good, at least for the rabbit.

                              It was pretty lively in there -- I think louder than Perilla. Good service. Perhaps waited a bit too long between clearing entrees and getting dessert menus, but that was the only misstep.

                              9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

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                              1. re: kathryn

                                My experience at Kin Shop was pretty close to Kathryn's. There were definitely some successful components to some of the dishes, but on the whole I found the food underwhelming, and I couldn't help comparing it all to Sripraphai.

                                We also had the noodles with chicken sausage -- on the waitress's recommendation -- and it was incredibly bland. We also found the duck and roti awkward because the meat was cut into such thick slabs that it was impossible to roll into the roti. That said, I thought the grilled whole prawns (a special) were incredible -- they had been in an incendiary chili sauce, and also came with a dipping sauce so delish we saved it to eat with our other dishes.

                                One last disappointment -- they only offer sorbet and a passionfruit pudding for dessert! It seems like a lost opportunity, and ended the meal on a bummer of a note.

                                1. re: kathryn

                                  Thanks, kathryn. I was wondering what you'd have to say about it. Sounds like noodle dishes may not be as successful as curry dishes, generally, based on all the reports on this thread.

                                  @Oliverstreet: sounds like those grilled prawns might be a lot better than Lotus of Siam's down the street. Were they an appetizer or entree?

                                  Lotus of Siam
                                  24 5th Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                  1. re: michelleats

                                    They were an appetizer special -- $4 a prawn!

                                2. I went last week with some Girlfriends and shared a good portion of the menu...duck salad as an app is delicious but very hot and can taint your palate for the rest of the meal...otherwise due to the open kitchen, I had to dryclean all of my clothes the next day! Just a heads up.

                                  1. i went yesterday with a friend for lunch and we shared everything

                                    - fried pork belly & crispy oyster salad (a true winner...it was so good that we got it again for "dessert")

                                    - hand cut beef tartar (nothing special, though it was good)

                                    - pan fried crab noodle (could have used less soy sauce - there was a puddle of it at the bottom of the bowl, more vegetable/green, more crab). nicely spiced though. a bit pricey at 21$ (other noodle dishes were hovering in the mid-teens) and there wasn't enough crab to really warrant the price

                                    decent wine list - we each had two glasses of gruner, and pre-tip, the whole she-bang came to 120$.

                                    i believe lunch service is fairly new so it wasn't crowded at all; we were maybe one out of five or six tables seated in there. it was a very pleasant lunch, and i know i'll be back for that salad. it was beautiful!

                                    1. They have a brilliant congee special on the menu, right now, called "Chiang Mai sausages with steamed duck egg". The dish includes a brief layer of congee made with good broth, spiked with sauteed red onions and topped with a soft, steamed duck egg, Chiang Mai sausages and brown slivers of crisp, freshly fried onions. The egg spurts yolk in a minor volcanic eruption when you cut into it with your spoon, mixing velvety yolk with already rich congee.... The result was delightful! The sausages taste (and look) as though they were house made, with a vibrant kick from kaffir lime leaf and lemongrass. Like Annisa's uni chawanmushi last year, I think this is a dish that I will dream about all winter long.

                                      Also tried the pan fried crab noodle and thought it was one of the weaker menu offerings. We had a pretty generous portion of crab in ours, but it was kind of fishy tasting, like what you'd get out of a can. The dish was just a bit bland with a lot of the flavoring coming from sa cha jian (satay sauce).

                                      The other big rave, though, is that they use fresh water chestnuts in the "stirfry of aquatic vegetables" side dish. If I'm not mistaken, the fresh stuff is hard to find, but about 20x more delicious than the canned variety you usually see. It has a very nice, subtle sweetness and a texture that reminds me of Asian pears.


                                      13 Barrow Street, New York, NY 10014

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                                      1. re: michelleats

                                        You can find fresh water chestnuts pretty easily in Chinatown (they may be seasonal). I hate the canned but love the fresh. Nice to hear that Kin Shop is using fresh ones. They're a pain in the butt to prep.

                                        1. re: Miss Needle

                                          You know what? I thought those rough, brown things were flower bulbs! But you're right, I think I have seen them in Chinatown, before, based on the Google images I found. I do not think I have eaten them in a NYC restaurant, though. They look like they might be hard to peel.

                                          1. re: michelleats

                                            Ha! I can see why you thought that. When I first saw them, I had no idea what they were and purchased myself about 1/2 lb to satisfy my curiosity. I quickly found out that the peels were inedible. Once I peeled them and sliced one up, I realized that they were water chestnuts! Really delicious but difficult to peel. It really does take quite some time to do the prep which is why I don't purchase them as often as I'd like to.

                                            1. re: Miss Needle

                                              OK, now you have me really curious, too. I'm going to get my hands on some if only to see how hard they are to prep! (My friend just sent me a horror story about how she nearly sliced her thumb off while peeling one.) Maybe I'll appreciate Kin Shop's version more, after I try this for myself. :)

                                        1. re: huiray

                                          Thanks for posting this, huiray. I think I agree with Sifton's assessment that it's a very good neighborhood restaurant, but not a standout / must try establishment for the city more generally.

                                        2. Went last night for a solo meal at the bar...i thought it was stellar...i had:

                                          -- pork belly and oyster salad, paired w/ a Hitachino Nest Ale
                                          -- the sour yellow curry rabbit leg, w/ a glass of Beaujolais
                                          -- lychee sorbet, w/ a lovely snifter of aged Nicaraguan rum...

                                          Loved every dish and every drink...the rabbit was particularly tender (and i've eaten a lot of rabbit in the last year while living in Paris and this was as good or better than anything i had there, including what i ate at one of my fav places there Monsieur Lapin)...one of the best meals i've had recently...i plan to return to try the duck laab and the red snapper...

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                                          1. re: Simon

                                            Simon, I echo each of your thoughts. It was a novel take on some traditional thai flavors. I loved the pork belly and oyster salad. The fried pork belly was something I'd never really had exerpienced before. My favorite dish there was the duck breast entree served with the roti. I'd highly recommend it for your next visit.

                                            1. re: Rich D.

                                              hi Rich...i'll try the duck breast next time...i went there again and had the duck laab (excellent) and the snapper...the snapper was slightly underwhelming, only because the piece of fish i had didn't taste particularly fresh, although the veggies, curry, etc w/ it were all fine...

                                              My only serious criticism of this place is the rice: the rice i had last night was undercooked, room temperature, and just not good...they need to switch to another grade of rice and/or have some rice cookers going more regularly...

                                              1. re: Simon

                                                Undercooked rice is mind boggling to me for an Asian restaurant. Yikes.

                                                I wanted to love the laab but I found it really one note. And as noted in an earlier review, I found the duck breast too chewy for the thick roti, which was also cut into pieces too small to wrap around the duck. Maybe they've changed it.

                                                1. re: kathryn

                                                  Mind you, my understanding is that Perilla is NOT an "Asian restaurant" but rather a Thai-influenced American restaurant, no? It is odd but many folks who cook Chinese/Thai/SEAsian/Japanese-inspired food (i.e. not actual Chinese/Thai/SEAsian/japanese restaurants) seem to have problems with rice sometimes, in my experience. YMMV.

                                                  9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

                                                  1. re: kathryn

                                                    i went back for a third visit...marinated fluke (like ceviche) w/ pomelo was delicious and a delightfully huge portion...and on RichD's rec, i tried the duck and liked it very much -- i thought the duck was a smaller portion than other entrees there (and the most expensive i think) but after the large fluke starter and the roti, i was very full...

                                                    kathryn, i think they most have changed the roti since you were there, as the duck came w/ two large roti, so it was possible to tear pieces of it for making sandwiches w/ the duck...duck was very tender...

                                                    1. re: Simon

                                                      That's good to hear. Previously it was pre-cut and thick like a scallion pancake.

                                                      1. re: Simon

                                                        I'm glad you enjoyed it Simon. The portion was a bit on the small side for an entree. When I went, I was with a party of 4 and we shared it as one of a couple appetizers and loved it.

                                              2. Went there for the second time, this past weekend. We enjoyed it more this time than the first, and felt we got our money's worth. We started with a special of duck tongue salad and the noodles with chicken sausage (listed as a main course, it was great to share as an app). We were comped a bone marrow appetizer with roti, which was out of this world. For mains we had rabbit and duck, and a side of rice. Both were excellent, with great sauces (the spice in the duck sauce sneaks up on you, in a good way). Even without the comped app, we would have been well filled. Lao beer, a dark lager, went very well with the food and was only $6 each. However one classifies the cooking style, Harold is doing a wonderful job.

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                                                1. re: rrems

                                                  Heard great things from many ppl now. Hitting it up for V-Day. 3 courses/$55 isn't bad.

                                                2. I thoroughly enjoyed my first dinner at Kin Shop last night:

                                                  - kaffir lime marinated fluke
                                                  - seared scallops with sliced snap peas and coconut (wow)
                                                  - roasted duck breast with roti
                                                  - lychee sorbet
                                                  - thai coffee chocolate ice cream

                                                  Definitely returning for the noodles and other dishes mentioned on this thread.

                                                  1. Re-posting this to the more active thread.

                                                    Terrible food. Nice server.

                                                    Spicy Duck Laab Salad. Ok I guess.
                                                    Squid Ink and Hot Sesame Oil Soup. I like this kind of thing, but just no real reason to order this.

                                                    Massaman: Braised Goat. Fatty no flavor. Curry too sweet, jumbled.
                                                    Grilled Prawns. Blah. $4 each is silly.
                                                    Fried Brussel Sprouts. Over-fried. Can do this at home.
                                                    Jasmine Rice. Way too dry. Serving rice this bad is unforgiveable.

                                                    Cheverny Sauv Blanc. Its a decent table wine, $15/bottle retail I buy for home. At $10/glass, the markup seems a lot higher than I thought was normal.

                                                    We went to Perilla when it first opened a bunch of times and liked it. I don't know what happened here. They'll prob have to try a full reboot eventually.

                                                    For Thai in NY, I'll stick with Lotus of Siam and wait to try Pok Pok. Think Sripraphai is way over-rated on CH. Yet to try Zaab and other contenders.

                                                    Kin Shop
                                                    469 6th Ave, New York, NY 10011

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                                                    1. re: tkny123

                                                      Lotus of Siam was good when it first opened. It was horrible 2 subsequent times. I will never go back there.

                                                      1. re: foodwhisperer

                                                        From what I heard the LoS guys in LV were no longer affiliated with the place about 2 months in.