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Manhattan with 8 year old lover of Asian foods

Hello! My 8 year old daughter and I are visiting Manhattan next weekend, and looking for where to eat (maybe we'll hit a museum or two, but truly, the foods the thing). I've asked her what she wants to eat, and aside from doughnut plant and pickles, she is insisting on Asian food. We live in Charlottesville, which has borderline decent Japanese food, but pretty terrible Chinese, Thai, and Vietnamese food. I'd love some recommendations on where we should go, bearing in mind that her palate is sensitive to spice. I'm looking for something memorable, and we are both fairly adventurous, though she refused intestine and tongue when we were in Italy, so perhaps not too adventurous...

Thanks so much!

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  1. Dim sum - a place with carts rolling around will be more memorable but the Manhattan places with carts are not as good as the Manhattan places where you order off the menu. I've had OK dim sum at Jing Fong and Oriental Garden (I'd avoid Golden Unicorn & Ping's), but greatly prefer either ordering off a menu (Chinatown Brasserie, Red Egg) or going to Flushing, Queens (higher quality).

    Sietsema of the Village Voice is fond of a dim sum place with carts, Royal Seafood, 103-105 Mott, FKA Oriental Pearl FKA Dun Hua Seafood. I've not been, though.

    BTW, you can still do Sichuan if you want. I'd go to Grand Sichuan St Marks or Chelsea and order eggplant with garlic sauce (I think they can make it non spicy), cold cucumber in scallion sauce, and smoked tea duck.

    I'd also do:

    Lanzhou style Hand-Pulled Noodles (some places make the noodles by hand in plain view):
    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/492376

    Great New York Noodletown (if she isn't turned off by the display of meats in the window), their roast duck and pig are really good:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678367

    A-Wah (rice in a claypot is a little interactive in that you have to mix it up yourself):
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/702145

    Or Noodle Village also for rice in a claypot and shrimp wonton soup.

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    Great New York Noodletown
    28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

    Noodle Village
    13 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    Oriental Garden
    14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

    Golden Unicorn
    18 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

    Jing Fong
    18 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

    Red Egg
    202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

    A-Wah
    5 Catherine St, New York, NY 10038

    Royal Seafood Restaurant
    103 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

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    1. re: kathryn

      If you're up for Sichuan, I'd recommend Lan Sheng on 39th St between 5th and 6th. Asian inspired (but not really Asian) momofuku ssam bar has amazing food.

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      Lan Sheng
      60 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

      1. re: rose water

        Does Lan Sheng have good quality non-spicy dishes? I was recommending Grand Sichuan based upon my familiarity with the menu and the non spicy dishes there (whereas I don't think the nonspicy dishes I've tried at Szechuan Gourmet are anything special).

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        Szechuan Gourmet
        21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

        Lan Sheng
        60 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

        1. re: kathryn

          I've never been to Lan Sheng but couldn't agree more with you on Grand Sichuan vs. Szechuan Gourmet.

          1. re: kathryn

            Don't know if you'd think they were special or not, but I enjoyed Lan Sheng's cold cucumber in scallion sauce, the sauteed pea shoots with garlic, and the sauteed green beans with ground pork (and really enjoyed their spicy fare, including dan dan noodles, and their chicken with capsicum). I can't really compare to Szechuan Gourmet, which I know many on these boards love (I've only eaten there once, years ago, and wasn't blown away).

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            Lan Sheng
            60 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

          2. re: rose water

            Lan Sheng pales in comparison to Szechuan Gourmet in both quantity of dishes offered and quality of taste.

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            Szechuan Gourmet
            21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

            1. re: scoopG

              Szechuan Gourmet is arguably the best Chinese restaurant in Midtown Manhattan, and it has a nice decor too. (OK, I would agree that dan dan mian is better at La Sheng, but that's about it). The problem is that Sichuan food is usually hot and sometimes oliy, but the staff is very knowledgeable and should help you choose.

              The idea is not to to try to dumb down their famous spicy dishes, but to choose from great non-spicy ones (well, you can order one more spicy dish for comparison). Off the top of my head:
              (i) steamed striped bass with minced pork;
              (ii) braised dou miao with garlic (I never had a better rendition outside of Asia);
              (iii) tea-smoked duck;
              (iv) tofu wraps with mushroom and bamboo shoots (an appetizer);
              (v) braised bai cai with ham and scallops;
              (vi) stir-fried beef with scallions and sweet miso.
              As you can see I eat there often :)

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              Szechuan Gourmet
              21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

        2. Vietnamese:
          Sau Voi for takeout bahn mi, Thai Son for caramel pork and fried calamari.
          Japanese street food (not sushi):
          Village Yokocho or Kenka (free cotton candy!) both near Astor Place.
          Congrats on having a great young dining companion: I was an impossible picky eater as a child.

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          Sau Voi
          101 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10013

          Thai Son
          89 Baxter St, New York, NY 10013

          Kenka
          25 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

          Village Yokocho
          8 Stuyvesant St, New York, NY 10003

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          1. re: pessoa

            I'd say that Yokocho is a little more kid appropriate. At the very least it doesn't have a stern warning about the "vomit fee" and "broken glass fee" on the menu like Kenka!

            1. re: kathryn

              lol I'm pretty sure they started that vomit fee from my friend who probably also broke the toilet in the bathroom that same night. does 1.50 mega mugs are dangerous.

            2. re: pessoa

              I love Kenkas but I dont think Kenka is a good suggestion, for an 8 year old. the food is not great and it can get quite crowded and loud. You can probably go in and give the hostess a dollar for the cotton candy machine outside.

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              Kenka
              25 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

            3. Hey I have spent alot of time in C-ville and the chinese food really is horrible. One of my favorite stories is years ago we ordered delivery from Asian Express to a friends apartment and some of the food was so bad I tossed it off his balcony into the woods. Later I saw a stray cat approach the food, smell it, and move on without eating any. For a casual meal let me suggest Great NY Noodletown in chinatown. Fantastic traditional hong kong style roast meats and soups. For a more upscale meal I suggest Cantoon Garden at 22 Elizabeth Street. The twin lobster special is a great treat at $25, tons of meat. Get it with XO sauce. If you want something more central, try Szechuan Gourmet on 39th street.

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              1. re: AubWah

                Isn't Cantoon Garden now known as South China Garden?

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                South China Garden
                22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

              2. Given that you're comparing to Charlottesville, if you don't want to go downtown, Cafe Evergreen has a dim sum brunch/lunch with the rolling carts on Sundays. Not spicy, nice space. Admittedly, this isn't the chinatown ambiance/social experience, but that said, a surprising number of asians and asian-americans frequent this restaurant. It's on 1st Ave. & 69th St. I think it gets the whole medical/scientist/researcher crowd from Memorial Sloan Kettering, NY Cornell Med Center, & Rockefeller University who work and live in the neighborhood.
                http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/...
                You're a quick crosstown bus ride to any of the museums from there.

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                Cafe Evergreen
                1288 1st Ave, New York, NY 10021

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                1. re: Jane A.

                  what about the quality of the dim sum?

                2. Joe's Shanghai (Chinatown) for soup dumplings, Pell Street
                  Saigon Bakery for bahn mi, summer rolls, Grand St/Mott St
                  finish with cannoli at Ferrara on Grand Street
                  OR
                  Il laboratorio del gelato, orchard street

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                  Joe's Shanghai
                  9 Pell St, New York, NY 10013

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                  1. re: Chuck Lawrence

                    Il Laboratorio closes early (5pm or 6pm?) and isn't a good after-dinner spot.

                    I like the freshly filled cannoli at Rocco on Bleecker more than the ones I've had in Little Italy.

                    1. re: kathryn

                      Il Laboratorio closes at 6pm but the OP said nothing about after dinner. Both it and Little Italy are of close proximity to Chinatown, and may be of interest to an 8yr old. Chinatown Ice Cream Factory on Bayard is another possibility, with flavors not found in Charlottesville.. Then again, the kid might not like ice cream or sweets!

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                      Chinatown Ice Cream Factory
                      65 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

                      1. re: Chuck Lawrence

                        for dessert with asian flavors I would do Spot, they just updated their menu and I have heard good things. Kyotofu is also good asian dessert place. If you decide to go to Spot you can also get bahn mi at Baoguette, though I haven't had bahn mi in awhile and am not sure which is best, but i do enjoy the bahn mi there (everything else is eh). You can also check out Xian famous foods which is near by.

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                        Kyotofu
                        144 W 18th St, New York, NY 10011

                        1. re: daffyduck

                          Caution about Xian: Most of their stuff is very spicy and more or less oily. Can be fairly salty, too. And the only non-spicy item I've tried so far (the lamb soup) was not very interesting, just lamb broth and some lamb, but not much taste, really.

                          1. re: Pan

                            Yeah that's true. I've only been to the flushing location which has pictures of their dishes making it easy to see which items are spicy (i'm not sure if the east village has the same) Since the OP daughter is 8 yrs old I assume she cant eat that much. what i had in mind was a little mini east village asian walking tour, first stop by Xian for a lamb burger (i find the pork one dry), then walk over to Baoguette for a bahn mi (tell them you don't want it spicy), and head over to Spot for dessert. Spot is not skimpy on their portions even though it's dessert tapas so I think this would be enough food especially with an 8 year old. But if you're still hungry you can head over to Momofuku Noodle bar.
                            Also I know you said no Japanese but if you never had takoyaki I love Otafuku which is right around there. My friend told me the cheese ones are insane but I've never tried them, they always seem to be out of cheese when I go.

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                            Momofuku Noodle Bar
                            171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                            Otafuku
                            236 E 9th St, New York, NY 10003

                            1. re: daffyduck

                              A lot of food professionals and educated consumers consider Baoguette a joke, so why bother in a city with so many offerings? I would go to Banh Mi SSo. 1 Saigon at 69 Broome St instead. It's not thrilling, but it's a good option.

                              Momofuku is a great suggestion. You should also go to Baohaus on Rivington for a interesting taste on Tawainese street food (specifically, gua bao).

                              Grand Sichuan is good for Manhattan, but nothing like the SIchuan I had in Shanghai much less Flushing, Queens. The Ma Po Tofu just does not compare, but is adequate.

                              Eddie Huang of Baohaus also runs Xiao Ye at Orchard St and Houston, a sit-down joint which is reputedly very good. Has anyone been here?

                              http://turntableskillets.wordpress.com

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                              Xiao Ye
                              198 Orchard St, New York, NY 10002

                              1. re: NewYorkNewHaven

                                Do you like the mapo tofu at Szechuan Gourmet? It's much better than the GS version (but I think GS has better dan dan mien and wontons in red oil). Note to the OP: all of these dishes I just listed are spicy.

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                                Szechuan Gourmet
                                21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

                                1. re: NewYorkNewHaven

                                  I think Baoguette is OK for an inexpensive, tasty sandwich in the neighborhood (not as a place to travel far to), but I've preferred Banh Mi Saigon in the past.

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                                  Banh Mi Saigon
                                  198 Grand St, New York, NY 10013

                                  1. re: NewYorkNewHaven

                                    Despite (of maybe because of) the higher price, I think Baoguette tastes better than Banh Mi So or Banh Mi Saigon. The ingredients used seem to be of higher quality. I always stick with the original Baoguette sandwich, though.

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                                    Banh Mi Saigon
                                    198 Grand St, New York, NY 10013

                                    1. re: Humbucker

                                      I usually have the chicken, catfish, or "Sloppy Bao." I also like the papaya salad and some of the other appetizers and sometimes get bun bo.

                                      1. re: Pan

                                        But, really, if the OP wants the best banh mi, Chinese of varying sorts, pho, etc. the city has to offer she should go to the outer boroughs. So, are you willing to do that? Flushing is only a 30 minute 7-train ride from GCT and well worth the trip.

                                        1. re: NewYorkNewHaven

                                          The best banh mi is found in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. Lots of discussion on the outer boroughs board...

                                          1. re: gutsofsteel

                                            I didnt know that the best banh mi is in sunset park brooklyn, is the best pho also there too?

                                    2. re: NewYorkNewHaven

                                      Banh Mi So 1 and Saigon Bahn Mi are both leagues better than Baoguette.

                                      1. re: MVNYC

                                        I found the pork at Banh Mi Saigon gristly and tough compared to Baoguette. Both places are much skimpier with the pate (my favorite part of banh mi) than Baoguette. I really hate to admit that I like Baoguette the best since it's pricier and more corporate feeling, but it's just too good.

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                                        Banh Mi Saigon
                                        198 Grand St, New York, NY 10013

                                        1. re: Humbucker

                                          I found the opposite to be true. The meats at baoguette lacked taste and were pretty bland overall. Way toned down compared to Chinatown or Brooklyn options. The bread also lacks the nice crustiness that one likes in the sandwich.

                          2. re: Chuck Lawrence

                            I'd skip the long touristy lines for soup dumplings at Joe's Shanghai and head straight for the XLB at the Shanghai Deluxe Cafe at 100 Mott Street.