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annette77 Oct 6, 2010 05:08 PM

Be careful how you order takeout here. I ordered chicken soup with two matzo balls on the side. I'm looking at the receipt - $13.90 for a quart of soup and $ 2.50 EACH for the matzo balls. With tax, it was over $20 for some soup. And it was just chicken soup - nothing wonderful, nothing out of the ordinary - just what you'd get at a decent local deli. The matzo balls were light and fluffy, but again, nothing special. I've had better matzo ball soup at the Moonrock diner on W. 57th Street - to name one good but not famous local place- for a whole lot less. Given the fuss made over the 2nd Avenue Deli's chicken soup, not even considering the astonishingly high price - I was disappointed and annoyed.

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    gutsofsteel RE: annette77 Oct 6, 2010 05:11 PM

    Kosher always costs more.

    1. thew RE: annette77 Oct 6, 2010 05:24 PM

      feh on fluffy matzo balls. i've never had a matzo ball soup in a restaurant or deli i liked.

      sorry for the hijack, back to your thread......

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        gutsofsteel RE: thew Oct 6, 2010 05:29 PM

        The Mansion Diner on 86th/York does a respectable job with a matzoh ball.

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        Mansion Diner
        1634 York Ave, New York, NY 10028

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          thew RE: gutsofsteel Oct 6, 2010 05:45 PM

          does it have bite? or is it fluffy?

      2. ChiefHDB RE: annette77 Oct 6, 2010 05:35 PM

        Sarge's Souper Soup...

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          ellenost RE: ChiefHDB Oct 7, 2010 06:40 AM

          I agree about Sarge's Souper Soup. The matzoh balls are light and fluffy (and certainly doesn't cost $20). That was a rip-off!

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            gutsofsteel RE: ellenost Oct 7, 2010 06:47 AM

            Sarge's is not kosher. Being kosher doesn't mean that the 2nd Ave Deli's soup is better...but it does automatically make it more expensive. If you don't want to pay those prices....don't go there, especially if the kosher part isn't important to you.

            Just compare the price of chicken in the supermarket - kosher vs nonkosher, just to give you some indication...

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              ellenost RE: gutsofsteel Oct 7, 2010 08:34 AM

              GOS,

              I'm not kosher, but there is nothing to justify $20 at Second Ave. Deli v. $6.95 at Sarge's. Sarge's Souper Soup is 24 oz. But if you're kosher, you'll have to pay whatever kosher places charge. I just can't believe that it needs to be almost 3X more expensive.

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                gutsofsteel RE: ellenost Oct 7, 2010 08:37 AM

                I guess you have to go buy kosher meat to understand how much more expensive it is. Plus there are all kinds of things a kosher place has to do, which cost money, that a non-kosher place doesn't even have to think about.

                But the bottom line is if you don't need to buy kosher, and you think soup somewhere else is just as good - then go there.

                By the way somebody just told me that Wolf & Lamb charges $14.00/qt. Also kosher.

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                Wolf & Lamb
                8 E 48th St, New York, NY 10017

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                  ellenost RE: gutsofsteel Oct 7, 2010 08:50 AM

                  $14/quart sounds much better. BTW, I am aware of what is involved with kosher meats.

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                    gutsofsteel RE: ellenost Oct 7, 2010 09:05 AM

                    2nd Ave deli charges $13.90 for a quart - it's actually cheaper.

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                      ellenost RE: gutsofsteel Oct 7, 2010 09:32 AM

                      The OP said she was charged $20. Are the $13.90 at Second Ave. Deli and the $14 at Wolf & Lamb both without matzoh balls?

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                        gutsofsteel RE: ellenost Oct 7, 2010 09:36 AM

                        She said with a few matzoh balls and tax it was $20.

                        I don't know if the matzoh balls are included at Park East and Wolf & Lamb.

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                        Park East
                        1623 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10028

                        Wolf & Lamb
                        8 E 48th St, New York, NY 10017

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                          ellenost RE: gutsofsteel Oct 7, 2010 09:59 AM

                          Maybe the OP isn't kosher, and that's why she is astonished at the seemingly high cost. Since I'm not kosher, I would rather get the Sarge's Souper Soup that has matzoh ball(s), kreplach and noodles for $6.95. Probably if I was kosher I wouldn't think the $20 was too expensive either.

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                            gutsofsteel RE: ellenost Oct 7, 2010 10:20 AM

                            Yep. Same here.

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                  ESNY RE: ellenost Oct 7, 2010 08:53 AM

                  2nd ave deli is just stupidly overpriced in general, kosher or not.

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            JGNYC RE: annette77 Oct 6, 2010 08:12 PM

            One thing you know when you order chicken soup at the 2nd Ave. Deli..no chemicals!! GREAT tasting and always fresh!

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              thew RE: JGNYC Oct 7, 2010 04:35 AM

              no chemicals? how does that work?

            2. erica RE: annette77 Oct 7, 2010 07:51 AM

              When I was sick for a few weeks last winter, I had quite a few orders of their Chicken in a Pot. This was a half chicken in soup with matzoh balls and carrots. Comes in a glass jar.

              Cost about $20 but I thought it was well worth it...maybe that is the better deal than ordering soup alone with the knaidlach extra.. The place is certainly pricey, though, but it IS kosher which is always more expensive.

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                gutsofsteel RE: erica Oct 7, 2010 08:32 AM

                I don't know about others, but Park East Kosher charges $14.98 per quart.

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                Park East
                1623 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10028

              2. famdoc RE: annette77 Oct 7, 2010 08:40 AM

                You are not paying for the matzoh ball soup...you are paying for the name on the container, for the real estate, for the legacy. Console yourself by recognizing that the $20 quart of soup actually contains two servings. If nothing else, the portions at 2nd Ave. Deli are generous.

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