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jcc813 Oct 5, 2010 04:12 PM

My family and I will be in LA in a few weeks and I've been trying to decide whether to dedicate our one available evening for a nice meal at Sushi Zo or Mori?

Background: I live in the Midwest. We don't have good sushi. And by *good* I am referring to pure, unadulterated rice-fish-dab of soy-dab of wasabi-sushi. None of this fusion, cream cheese, godzilla, sauce drenched, mushy rice and tasteless fish wrapped in dried seaweed stuff that seems to run rampant here.

My sister's been to Sushi Zo and had a great experience, but I've heard good things about Mori, too (and some negative comments about Zo's attitude having gone downhill recently--not sure how the recent Zagat rating will have affected that).

I would be happy with all or mostly (85-90%) sushi/sashimi omakase, but my mom's interested in having some cooked dishes. I can't tell, but from some reviews it seems that Mori includes a lot of cooked dishes in their omakase. Zo is mostly (only?) fish?

We plan to sit at the sushi bar (as if that's even a question :), so while I'm mostly concerned with the quality of the food, I don't want the experience to be tainted by a surly chef experience either.

Can anyone provide some insight on either and help us decide where to go?

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Sushi Zo
9824 National Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

Mori Sushi
11500 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

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  1. wilafur RE: jcc813 Oct 5, 2010 04:58 PM

    go to mori as sushi zo has essentially zero cooked dishes unless you count 1 or 2 "cooked" nigiri such as unagi and butterfish.

    1. wienermobile RE: jcc813 Oct 5, 2010 05:03 PM

      From Zagat 2011 Los Angeles Guide Top Food: "The award for Top Food went to phenom Sushi Zo, replacing last year's winner, Urasawa, which fell to No. 21. The "brilliant" yet "subtle" Japanese cuisine of chef-owner Keizo Seki, rated a rare 29 rating out of a maximum possible 30, despite its "austere" strip-mall setting which scored a 13 out of 30 for decor." I know some people could care less what Zagat says, I for one certainly don't believe Urasawa belongs at #21 so take it with a grain of salt.

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      Sushi Zo
      9824 National Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

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        ns1 RE: wienermobile Oct 21, 2010 04:33 PM

        yeah Zagat is like the Yelp of review books.

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          J.L. RE: ns1 Dec 15, 2010 10:00 PM

          Agree with ns1. Zagat has pretty much zero street cred with me. I'm ashamed I actually used to be a Zagat reviewer. Once I saw the process, I abandoned it and switched to Chowhound.

      2. J.L. RE: jcc813 Oct 5, 2010 05:51 PM

        Mori vs. Zo is well-covered territory on this board.

        My 2 cents for you & your family (if I had to pick btw. the two): Mori, by a landslide. BUT you must sit at Mori's sushi bar for best experience.

        Honestly, most L.A. sushi places worth their salt would beat your description of Midwest sushi by a mile.

        Kiriko is my actual best pick for you, since their cooked dishes are excellent also, and Head Chef Ken-san & his entire staff are extremely cordial.

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        Kiriko
        11301 W Olympic Blvd Ste 102, Los Angeles, CA 90064

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          JudiAU RE: jcc813 Oct 5, 2010 07:06 PM

          Based on your description, our taco trucks make better sushi. Sorry. I am sure you get better pierogis. Never been to Zo but Mori, although quite expensive, is really very good.

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            kevin RE: JudiAU Oct 5, 2010 08:28 PM

            I like Zo, but the service might leave you with a sour taste in your mouth (though sometimes the chef is very cordial, so it may be the luck of the draw). The number of dishes here are great, and that yuzu shooter at the end is divine. It is expensive (though not Urasawa expensive, though I find it very interesting that Zo rated the top score for food in LA, over even Urasawa, maybe Zo just has some fierce proponents aka cheerleaders).

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            Urasawa Restaurant
            218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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            NAspy RE: jcc813 Oct 5, 2010 10:15 PM

            I love Sushi Zo and go there about 4-5 times a year. But for a quintessential and more memorable experience, I agree with those who recommend either Mori or Kiriko. More variety, more ambience, very high quality food. You will not get cooked dishes at Zo unless you consider mildly blowtorched butterfish on rice a cooked dish.

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            Sushi Zo
            9824 National Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

            Kiriko
            11301 W Olympic Blvd Ste 102, Los Angeles, CA 90064

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              kevin RE: NAspy Oct 5, 2010 10:25 PM

              and as for the torched butterfish, just not a fan of that sauce they glop on it. all the other items are pretty good, except for warm ankimo, which i'm definitely not a fan of.

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              jcc813 RE: jcc813 Oct 21, 2010 04:18 PM

              Thanks, everyone for the suggestions/feedback!

              Decided to make a reservation at Mori--sushi bar. And at least this way my sister can tell us if she prefers it to Zo or not.

              I'm soooo looking forward to it, can almost taste that fresh, glistening fish...

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                Porthos RE: jcc813 Oct 21, 2010 05:01 PM

                Make sure it is the sushi bar in front of Mori himself.

                2 weeks ago, I went to Zo and Mori 2 days apart. Zo has a good variety and his rice was better than it was 3 years ago, but his knifework is still irregular and inconsistent (some strips, some slices). His attitude is still tiresome and his monosyllabic answers just degrades the dining experience. Zagat's description of Zo is a joke as Zo's style has a hint of Sasabune/Nozawa which is the opposite of "subtle".

                Mori is as good as ever. He had matsutake dobinmushi (matsutake soup served in a teapot) when I was there 2 weeks ago. Ask if it's available when you're there. Talk about subtle and pure. He is also offering bluefin tuna again. If it's fresh, glistening, pristine, pure expression of sushi you're looking for, Mori is your man. Ask for both Santa Barbara and Hokkaido uni so you can taste the difference between the two next to each other.

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                  Pilori RE: Porthos Oct 21, 2010 08:55 PM

                  How much is the going rate at Mori these days for omakase?

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                    Porthos RE: Pilori Oct 22, 2010 08:55 AM

                    Omakase runs around $100-120pp. Getting some cooked items vs sushi only omakase adds to the tab.

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                      kevin RE: Porthos Oct 22, 2010 05:27 PM

                      so with cooked items it's more pricey than with sushi/sashimi only? at mori?

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                    K K RE: Porthos Oct 22, 2010 09:04 AM

                    Thanks for the update and comparison. Does Zo still have the problem where the rice is too warm, rice not compacted enough to hold its shape that it crumbles apart (like when one tries to eat the giant ama-ebi from 3 years ago?), oversaucing fish (e.g. the thick seasoned soy sauce over white fish like kinmedai)?

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                      Porthos RE: K K Oct 22, 2010 09:46 AM

                      Rice is better now, not as warm, but yes, still a bit loose an tends to fall apart. Have not been served giant ama-ebi on my last 2 visits. Saucing is slightly better but variety has dropped off a bit since 3 years ago when I first went. Zo seems to be slipping with time and Mori just gets stronger.

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                        K K RE: Porthos Oct 22, 2010 09:58 AM

                        Have you (or anyone else) been to Kanpachi in Gardena yet? It seems they're an off-shoot of an old sushi restaurant in Ginza Tokyo (either the owner/chef used to work there or he named the restaurant after the one over there, a la "Ginza Sushiko")...reminds me a little bit of Sakae Sushi in NorCal for some reason from looking at online pics.

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                        Kanpachi
                        1425 W Artesia Blvd Ste 27, Gardena, CA 90248

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                          wilafur RE: K K Oct 22, 2010 10:08 AM

                          i've been a couple times and the fish is very fresh. however, i cannot say they provided me with much variety on either visit. they gave me the typical maguro, uni, hamachi, etc.

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                            kevin RE: K K Oct 22, 2010 05:28 PM

                            if it's like ginza sushi ko at kanpachi in gardena, i should just get right up and head over there right now, this veryr second.

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                              K K RE: kevin Oct 23, 2010 05:38 PM

                              Kevin, I did not mean to say that Ginza Sushiko is/was like Kanpachi quality wise. I'm only saying that because Masa Takayama named his LA sushi restaurant after the place where he apprenticed in Tokyo (with their blessing), and I wasn't sure what was the connection with Kanpachi and the place in Ginza.

                              As far as Kanpachi 勘八, they are supposedly the sister restaurant of the one in Ginza according to Chinese/Taiwanese and Japanese bloggers. I'm only drawing a parallel here, not comparing quality in any way.

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                                kevin RE: K K Oct 23, 2010 06:53 PM

                                Ok, maybe, I'll hold off on that trip. I thought I knew most every sushi bar in LA.

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                              E Eto RE: K K Oct 23, 2010 07:08 AM

                              I liked Kanpachi when I've gone there. It has been a few years though, as the itamae who knows us best moved over to Sen Nari Sushi across the way.
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/62661
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8273...

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                              Kanpachi
                              1425 W Artesia Blvd Ste 27, Gardena, CA 90248

                    2. peppermonkey RE: jcc813 Oct 22, 2010 06:20 PM

                      forget both and go to Kiyokawa instead. unbelievable

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                        epop RE: peppermonkey Oct 25, 2010 05:32 PM

                        Been to kiyokawa and while I like the quiet ambiance it isn't even close to the same league
                        as Mori and Zo.

                        I would treat it as a case of avoiding the either or. Eventually go to both, as they're each phenomenal.

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                          peppermonkey RE: epop Oct 25, 2010 10:10 PM

                          For fish on rice, i see your point. But for everything else included in the omakase: the sashimi plate, the daikon soup, the small plate of appetizers, etc, the overall experience and enjoyment is much greater.

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                            epop RE: peppermonkey Oct 25, 2010 11:07 PM

                            Zo has none of that. It is only fish on rice, done uniquely.

                            Mori has that items and executes them far better, imho. I love their toro in olive oil
                            or the spicy tuna tacos.

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                              kevin RE: epop Oct 25, 2010 11:10 PM

                              toro in olive oil, tell me more? what other dishes does mori have \? i haven't been in ages.

                              my favorites now are shibucho, zo, and go's mart. each of them a very different distinct style.

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                                epop RE: kevin Oct 25, 2010 11:56 PM

                                A great eggplant in miso, several preparations of carpaccios in olive oil and peppers, various tempuras, such as a rock shrimp that are perfectly done.
                                Plus a whole lot of incredible nigiri sushi.

                                I have to get to Shibucho.

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                                Shibucho
                                3114 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90057

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                                peppermonkey RE: epop Oct 26, 2010 10:10 AM

                                I guess we just have different palates. I specifically request nigiri only at Mori. Just don't feel the other dishes have enough flavor and balance to justify the high prices. I haven't had either of the items you mention though.

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                                  Porthos RE: peppermonkey Oct 26, 2010 11:40 AM

                                  Strongly disagree. Mori's skill in the kitchen rivals Hiro-san at Urasawa. I've had smoked octopus eggs, marinated kinmedai throat and liver at Mori...the flavors and balance of which is on par with Urasawa. Go now and try the matsutake dobinmushi at Mori and see if that changes your feeling about flavors at Mori. His manilla clams in white wine broth and grilled santa barbara prawns rivals anything at Providence. Yes, the cooked items add a premium to the meal but it can be as good as anything in town.

                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7136...

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                                  Urasawa Restaurant
                                  218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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                                    J.L. RE: Porthos Oct 26, 2010 11:46 AM

                                    Would have to agree with Porthos...

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                                      peppermonkey RE: Porthos Oct 26, 2010 11:57 AM

                                      Really disagree about the Urasawa comparison, but then again I haven't had any of the dishes you mention. Sounds tempting, but was burned 2 times doing the omakase and don't want to make it a third. My sushi loving SO won't even go with me again.

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                                      Urasawa Restaurant
                                      218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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                                        Porthos RE: peppermonkey Oct 26, 2010 03:37 PM

                                        Well if it's pure unadulterated sushi you love, Mori is actually superior to Urasawa at 1/3 the cost. The rice is superior as is the knife work and the care with which Mori sauces and seasons each piece of nigiri. The offerings vary more with the season than the offerings at Urasawa. Sushi IMO is the weak link at Urasawa.

                                        For cooked stuff, yes, Hiro-san's skill is astounding and beautiful to behold, but it all comes at a tremendous cost.

                                        How did you get "burned" with the cooked stuff? Was it the cost or that the offerings were nothing special? Next time you go, ask if he has any special cooked items that night. Tell him you heard tales of exotic octopus eggs and kinmedai throat and liver juxtaposition and that you'd like to try something like that if he has it. I agree with Epop that the grilled eggplant with white miso is also worth trying. If so, allow him to show you subtlies of craft and flavor that you rarely find. If not, proceed with your usual nigiri only meal. If you go now, ask if they still have matsutake. Be sure to try the soup if they do. If not, wait until mid December for buri belly. I try very hard not to miss matsutake season or buri season at Mori Sushi and usually have to go back twice during buri season for that ridiculous belly cut.

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                                        Urasawa Restaurant
                                        218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                        Mori Sushi
                                        11500 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

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                                          peppermonkey RE: Porthos Oct 26, 2010 04:11 PM

                                          I hardly remember the cooked dishes, which is the problem. All I remember is the lack of flavor and the high price I payed for the lack of flavor. The Buri belly was great as was the halibut fin. Obviously his knife skills are exceptional. The rice is the best rice I've ever had, which almost makes up for everything. I guess there's my cooked dish

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                                            J.L. RE: peppermonkey Oct 26, 2010 05:53 PM

                                            Did you sit at the bar or at a table? 'Cuz the table experience at Mori is certainly not as good as sitting at the bar.

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                                              peppermonkey RE: J.L. Oct 29, 2010 10:45 AM

                                              always bar in front of mori only...I've never seen him actually prepare any of the cooked dishes though

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                                        epop RE: Porthos Oct 26, 2010 03:49 PM

                                        I disagree with Porthos.
                                        Mori outdoes Providence any day.
                                        So I agree with Porthos, regarding the overall idea.

                                        It isn't about having different palates. Just like art these things
                                        can be debated and discussed.

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                                          Porthos RE: epop Oct 26, 2010 04:18 PM

                                          Like discussing Aesthetics via Kant...the beauty of Mori is universal and not simply a matter of taste...

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                                            Servorg RE: Porthos Oct 26, 2010 04:25 PM

                                            "...the beauty of Mori is universal and not simply a matter of taste..."

                                            I would call that a assertion a matter of conjecture... ;-D>

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                                              Porthos RE: Servorg Oct 26, 2010 04:48 PM

                                              Not according to Kant...and myself :-)

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                                                Servorg RE: Porthos Oct 26, 2010 04:51 PM

                                                I Kant buy it...but the sales pitch is entertaining... (g)

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                                            kevin RE: epop Oct 26, 2010 05:36 PM

                                            At Mori, can I order the eggplant with miso and the toro in olive oil by looking at the menu and ordering off there or do I specifically have to order the omakase and just get lucky that those dishes will be served up to me. Wow, I think it's at least been three years since I've been to Mori.

                                            Also, am I going to get the same great dishes whether I go for lunch or dinner?

                                            Thanks.

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                                              epop RE: kevin Oct 26, 2010 06:00 PM

                                              It can be ordered. I prefer ordering to the omakase, as I had a disappointing meal once, like peppermonkey.

                                              As for all this Kant, glad to see it here. But I can't espouse for a universal notion of taste, now that McDonald's has made semi-misanthropes of some of us.

                                              I had better uni at Mori and Zo than anywhere.

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                                  TailbackU RE: peppermonkey Oct 26, 2010 04:16 PM

                                  Kiyokawa's omakase dinner is a fantastic deal at $79pp. However, his raw fish quality doesn't live up to Zo or Mori. His live sweet shrimp though was exceptional, as was his uni.

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                                  foodiemahoodie RE: jcc813 Oct 25, 2010 01:26 AM

                                  Mori.

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                                    kyee87 RE: jcc813 Nov 2, 2010 02:02 PM

                                    definitely Mori Sushi. i've been to Sushi Zo for omakase about 7 times or so. the quality and selection of fish was very, very good - maybe 9-9.3 out of 10. but the pacing was terrible, and i've noticed in the past 3 times or so it's been consistently disappointing in that regard - usually it was $150-$170/pp for dinner and i was out in a little under 1 hour each time. i was still chewing when i was served the next course...a little formulaic as well, it feels a bit like a factory - nevermind that Keizo can be gruff, but the whole dining experience was marred.

                                    i've been to Mori Sushi only once - for lunch omakase (sashimi + cooked vegetables + nigiri) and it was $150/pp. much more pleasing experience. i was not served by Mori but by an older sushi chef. the rice is a step above and the consistency of the meal overall is just stellar. items are 9.0++ out of 10, in my opinion. the Santa Barbara uni matched Sushi Sushi's "A1" uni - 10/10 the best i've had, clearly better than Zo, Kiriko, Matsuhisa, + anywhere in the Bay Area. i'll be going back, but in my experience, it was a bit more expensive than Sushi Zo / Kiriko / Sushi Sushi.

                                    I'm no connoisseur by any means, but i have some experience and Mori's the best sushi i've had. for reference, i frequent Kiriko Sushi, used to go to Sushi Zo, Matsuhisa (a while back), and Sushi Sushi..also Sawa sushi, Sakae, Sebo in Norcal.. Mori is clearly a cut above all of those, in pretty much all respects, but it does cost a bit more.

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                                    Sushi Zo
                                    9824 National Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

                                    Matsuhisa
                                    129 N La Cienega Blvd, Beverly Hills, CA 90211

                                    Kiriko
                                    11301 W Olympic Blvd Ste 102, Los Angeles, CA 90064

                                    Mori Sushi
                                    11500 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

                                    Sushi Sushi
                                    326 1/2 S Beverly Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90212

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                                      Porthos RE: kyee87 Nov 2, 2010 03:14 PM

                                      Glad you enjoyed Mori. I agree that it's a cut above all the LA sushi places you've listed. I also found it much better than Sakae in the bay area. Never tried Sawa. Sebo opened up after I left the area.

                                      Mori will not be more expensive than your $170pp dinners at Sushi Zo. Come back in winter and ask for buri belly. You can ask for nigiri only and that will drop your cost to about $120pp.

                                      The only guy I know of that tops Mori is Yasuda in NYC. Caveat is that I've never had sushi with Masa Takayama.

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                                      Sushi Zo
                                      9824 National Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

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                                        kyee87 RE: Porthos Nov 2, 2010 03:31 PM

                                        My meal at Sawa was years back...i really didn't have much experience, just heard that it was stellar, and i don't remember much except that the ingredients were excellent. Not so much nigiri though, lots of sashimi and cooked dishes. Focus is on ingredients, not on finesse. I hear things have changed - i was lucky to escape unscathed from the bill, but i've heard from some reports that meals have been $$$$$, although now it has more set pricing. It's a polarizing experience, but all i remember from years back is that it's very good. I want to go back but i fear the bill...

                                        Sebo's on par with Sakae (which is now gone) - good but a bit below Zo/Kiriko/Sushi Sushi, all of which i find below Mori. You're not missing much from Sebo - it's good but not great, and i'm in no rush to go back. My brother ate at Yasuda, and by discussing other meals we've had together, by the most unscientific means of comparison i may venture to say it's close to Mori and Kyubey in Tokyo..not sure which is "better" but that might depend on the particular meal. Again this is just off hearsay, but we've eaten quite a bit together so we can have some grounds for comparison. That said i haven't experienced Yasuda but will definitely go whenever i go to NY.

                                        My lunch at Mori was $150/pp..if you don't mind me asking, what would an omakase dinner (w/o alcohol, tip, or tax) typically run at Mori? I really want to try their cooked dishes, but i don't want to pay more than $200 before drinks, tax, tip..that's why i only went for lunch because i wasn't sure what to expect, and i found it a bit expensive. I was under the impression that it was $250/pp for dinner...am i off base or is $170/pp for lunch? Buri belly sounds great!

                                        Masa-NYC is prohibitively expensive for me. The only way i could justify spending that much is eating at Sawada if i were in Tokyo.

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                                          Porthos RE: kyee87 Nov 2, 2010 04:07 PM

                                          Mori's nigiri only omakase runs around $100-$120pp. Omakase including cooked items (which you should have if he has anything special like marinated kimedai throat and liver) is about $120-$140pp. I've never been charged more than that before tax,tip, and drinks in 10 or so trips over the past 7 years. There are reports of Mori costing more than $250pp after tax, tip, and drink but that's with 1 or 2 bottles of premium sake. I've never crossed the $200pp mark including tax, tip, and drinks and only get close if I get a $60-ish 500ml bottle of Kuro no Hana junmai daiginjo sake.

                                          Go. Sit with Mori. Ask for the Santa Barbara vs Hokkaido uni lineup. Have beer instead of sake. Enjoy.

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                                            chr RE: kyee87 Dec 12, 2010 11:26 PM

                                            do you mean sakae in burlingame in northern california? it's still around. they lost the lease, moved to around the corner and named it noboru, then changed it back to sakae. food is still good. btw, we'll be in town right after xmas and have one night for sushi. i'm debating between mori or kiriko - looking for the best fish, and good cooked dishes will be a plus. or do you have other suggestions? thanks!

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                                          sushigirlie RE: kyee87 Dec 13, 2010 08:53 PM

                                          I agree. Pacing at Zo is too fast. The waitresses try really hard but they can't keep up, and you're forced to move your plates all around. It detracts from the experience.

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                                            J.L. RE: sushigirlie Dec 13, 2010 10:35 PM

                                            Agree.

                                            Just visited the sushi bar at Mori for a December omakase last week... Awesome (as usual). Four photos enclosed... (steamed awabi, Hokkaido hairy crab, Hokkaido uni, and fruit plate including persimmon gelee)...

                                             
                                             
                                             
                                             
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                                              Porthos RE: J.L. Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM

                                              Very impressive photos!. You've perfectly captured the beauty of Mori's Hokkaido Uni. Already have my resersvations for Friday.

                                              I believe this is the first time I've seen Hokkaido Hairy Crab at Mori. Looks like the crab leg was steamed. What were the 2 dishes next to it?

                                              Did he have buri belly yet?

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                                                J.L. RE: Porthos Dec 14, 2010 04:49 PM

                                                Thanks for the kind words.

                                                Regarding the presentation of the hairy crab: It was steamed Hokkaido crab leg, with MORE crab meat in a carved lemon rind, AND crab brains & roe (yellow) in a separate dish! There was the sweet vinegar Japanese dipping sauce for accompaniment. This single presentation was the gastronomic highlight of my December so far.

                                                And yes, Mori has buri! Enjoy your meal Friday!

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                                                  Porthos RE: J.L. Dec 15, 2010 08:28 AM

                                                  Awesome. I suspected/hoped that was crab brains in the back left.

                                                  Thanks for the report and photos.

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                                          sushigirlie RE: jcc813 Dec 13, 2010 09:19 AM

                                          I think Mori Sushi is better overall. The presentation and setting are much superior and the rice is better. I tend to like Zo's selection of sushi a little better, however, since it tends to be more interesting.

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                                          Mori Sushi
                                          11500 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

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                                            kevin RE: sushigirlie Dec 13, 2010 09:32 AM

                                            i was not too pleased with mori, i found zo to be much miuch much better.

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                                              ns1 RE: kevin Dec 13, 2010 09:33 AM

                                              thanks for being so specific.

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                                                kevin RE: ns1 Dec 13, 2010 09:35 AM

                                                your welcome, but i'll post later on. maybe i'm just a sushi rube and didn't get the hoopla about Mori. though the persimmon jelly on the fruit plate was unique and quite great.

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                                                  epop RE: kevin Dec 13, 2010 08:24 PM

                                                  Ya, great persimmon jelly.

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                                                  foodiemahoodie RE: ns1 Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM

                                                  That's THREE much better! How can you be more specific than that?

                                                  And he might actually be a sushi rube, but why let something like that stop you from making a public proclamation?

                                                  I seriously doubt that folks at Zo would agree with you. In fact, I'd go so far as to say there is NO sushi bar on the planet that is much, much, much better than Mori. Not even one "much.".

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                                                    Tripeler RE: foodiemahoodie Dec 14, 2010 01:07 AM

                                                    Does this include sushi bars in Japan?
                                                    I think you may be out of your league, here.

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                                                      foodiemahoodie RE: Tripeler Dec 15, 2010 08:27 PM

                                                      Yes.

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                                                      epop RE: foodiemahoodie Dec 14, 2010 08:29 AM

                                                      Nicely stated. I give the edge to Zo but
                                                      that's it. Both are meticulous and in a class of their own.

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