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Anarkya Sep 30, 2010 01:01 PM

My grocery store is being renovated and 2 days ago I went and bought steaks. I never have problems with the packing date, but yesterday I noticed that the steak were packed on Sept 25th after they change color sooner than usual.

Are the steaks ok to cook anyways? I know the color change is usually do to the red thing they put in the meat, but I've never waited that long to cook steaks, I've never had problems with the packing date with my grocery store before, hence I'm asking.

Thank you.

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  1. BiscuitBoy RE: Anarkya Sep 30, 2010 01:18 PM

    As long as it's been kept refrig'd, no worries...think of it as short term aging

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      tommy RE: BiscuitBoy Sep 30, 2010 06:45 PM

      This is a bit different than aging. Quite different, I'd say.

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        joonjoon RE: tommy Oct 1, 2010 01:26 PM

        I don't know if it's just in my head or what, but I purposely let my meat sit in the fridge an extra 3-4 days. It seems to acquire the 'mineraly' taste that's characteristic of aged beef.

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          Cherylptw RE: tommy Oct 1, 2010 07:03 PM

          Really? How so? As I understand it, most restaurants that age their beef use the procedure that they let it stay in the fridge unwrapped for a certain length of time, sometimes for a couple of weeks or more until it is of desired results. I'm curious, what is different here except that the meat is still wrapped?

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            ipsedixit RE: Cherylptw Oct 1, 2010 07:40 PM

            Dry aging beef at home (done properly) and letting meat sit in a fridge for a couple of days unattended is quite different. In other words, letting a couple of steaks sit in your fridge for a few days will only give you old meat. Letting meat sit for a few more days will give you dangerous meat.

            You can read about dry aging beef at home here:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/3802...
            http://www.askthemeatman.com/is_it_po...

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              Cherylptw RE: ipsedixit Oct 2, 2010 07:48 PM

              I see that individual steaks can't be done but if there was a whole loin it can be done in the home fridge, according to the many articles I've read online...it is possible to do it at home. Thanks for the info.

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              BiscuitBoy RE: Cherylptw Oct 2, 2010 02:21 PM

              Whoa, whoa, whoa....Let's not make this into nuclear fusion, or black magic. This is precisely how steakhouses do it, unwrapped though

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                tommy RE: BiscuitBoy Oct 2, 2010 02:25 PM

                Steakhouses do not age individual steaks. While it's not as complicated as nuclear fusion, there is a correct and incorrect answer.

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                  ipsedixit RE: BiscuitBoy Oct 2, 2010 03:17 PM

                  This is precisely how steakhouses do it, unwrapped though

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                  Uh, no.

                  Dry aging (at steakhouses or commercial ventures) are in temperature controlled environments, involve usually large cuts or sides of beef (not individual steaks). The meat is hung in large sterile refrigerators with carefully controlled air flow, humidity, and temperature for two to six weeks. At the end, the crust that develops is trimmed away.

                  BiscuitBoy, please explain to me how that process is precisely the same as leaving a couple of individual steaks laying around, wrapped, in the fridge?

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                    pikawicca RE: ipsedixit Oct 2, 2010 07:29 PM

                    You are absolutely correct. The home cook cannot do this.

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                      tommy RE: pikawicca Oct 2, 2010 07:36 PM

                      Well, the home cook can somewhat duplicate a dry-aging process, as has been discussed endlessly on the internet. But a piece of steak that's 5 days old sitting in your fridge does not duplicate "short term aging" as has been suggested here, nor does the process that restaurants employ resemble leaving a steak in your fridge, as someone questioned.

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                        pikawicca RE: tommy Oct 2, 2010 07:42 PM

                        I routinely salt steaks and put them on a rack over a plate in the fridge a couple of days before cooking. This improves their flavor, but does not approach the impact of true dry-aging.

          2. Cherylptw RE: Anarkya Sep 30, 2010 01:20 PM

            I've bought meat from the marked down section of the meat counter before when it was a bit brown; it smelled fine & tasted okay when cooked. I've also bought said meat and put it in the fridge once home from the market then waited a few days to cook it and again it was okay. If it smells bad, is slimy or green, just say no otherwise, I say yes.

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              DukeOfSuffolk RE: Anarkya Sep 30, 2010 03:17 PM

              You'll probably be fine to cook/eat them, however naturally I wouldn't make that a habit - especially if you like them very rare. I might go medium to be on the safe side but if they were kept cold I'd bet they are fine.

              1. Hank Hanover RE: Anarkya Sep 30, 2010 06:10 PM

                It probably is but there are a few ways to test it.

                Rinse the meat off with water and vinegar. Pat dry with paper towels. Slide your fingers along the meat. Is it slimy? If it is, you should probably throw it away. Does it smell putrid? Throw it away.

                If it passes those tests, your meat is consumable. Is it the freshest you can get...No but it will be fine.

                1. SilverlakeGirl RE: Anarkya Oct 2, 2010 06:52 PM

                  I'd say smell it. This usually solves the issue.

                  To me, meat, once purchased, becomes bad smelling within a day or two.

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                    brooklynkoshereater RE: Anarkya Oct 2, 2010 07:03 PM

                    when in doubt, throw it out.

                    1. c oliver RE: Anarkya Oct 2, 2010 07:22 PM

                      Red meat changes color when exposed to air (and for other reasons). When I do a rib roast I put it in the fridge for five days or so, unwrapped and loosely covered with wax paper. It's damn near black. I try not to let guests see it in that state :) I then cook it to rare (<120). I've done it this way for probably 15 years and no one has had any reaction except to rave. Wrapped tightly in plastic can cause it to spoil sooner but I don't know why. But as others have said, your nose will tell you.

                      But, hey, I live in a magic house :)

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                        pikawicca RE: c oliver Oct 2, 2010 07:32 PM

                        I've got a Wagyu rib roast on order from a local rancher, to be consumed at an upcoming dinner party. Do you salt your roast ahead of time? Do you trim the dried edges off before roasting? I don't want to screw up this (very expensive) piece of beef.

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                          tommy RE: pikawicca Oct 2, 2010 07:37 PM

                          Good questions for another thread, where you'll probably get lots of input. Not that c oliver's input here won't be helpful.

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                            c oliver RE: pikawicca Oct 2, 2010 07:44 PM

                            I've never salted it but I don't think that's a bad idea. I don't trim anything before roasting. I'm not at home but I do a CI recipe where I sear it on three sides and then into a 250 (I'm so not sure about that) oven. I remove at about 120 internal temp.

                            I couldn't be there before mid-October. Is that too late?!?

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                              pikawicca RE: c oliver Oct 2, 2010 08:13 PM

                              I'm not sure when we're going to do this. I'm aiming for early November.

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                                c oliver RE: pikawicca Oct 2, 2010 08:15 PM

                                A post-celebration of the March to Restore Sanity!!!

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