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msmouser Sep 27, 2010 06:31 PM

Long, long ago, when I was young and lived in the New York City area, we had access to many varieties of smoked fish. I miss them all, terribly....sable, sturgeon, "knubble carp", and others Can anyone tell me where to find such delicacies in the greater Boston area?? Also, is there anywhere to buy herrings out of a barrel, instead of jars, pickled, smoked, or otherwise?

I have just about given up on great corned beef and pastrami, unless one of you kind souls can direct me to those foods of my past, which I crave,(without my having to travel back to New York).


  1. Matt H Sep 30, 2010 09:22 AM

    I was just about to log on and post a question about a place to buy smoked Herring (Making Solomon-a-Gundy this weekend) Going to check out Baza and Bazaar this weekend. Thanks.

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    1. re: Matt H
      galka Oct 1, 2010 12:52 PM

      you can find smoked herring in the Russian stores- but you need to look at the packaged plastic trays with herring fillets in oil.

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      cambridgedoctpr Sep 28, 2010 11:10 AM

      I think that you have to look to NYC for the best in smoked fish; I believed that these can be ordered from Zabars or Barney Greengrass and possibly others. Sorry to say that nothing here compares to NY from my limited experience.

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        CookieLee Sep 28, 2010 05:27 AM

        The Butcherie, Harvard St., Brookline, (across the street from Kupel's), has smoked fish, inc. sable and mackerel. Many yrs ago the distributor of kippers stopped distributing to Boston. Sometimes you can find frozen, but it's not the same. The Butcherie might have frozen.

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        1. re: CookieLee
          BobB Sep 28, 2010 12:06 PM

          The Butcherie is also the only place left in the area (as far as I know) where you can buy belly lox, aka salty lox. They make their own. And their sable is excellent.

          As for really good corned beef and pastrami, try MIchael's Deli in Coolidge Corner. They bring both in from NYC and cook them locally. The corned beef in particular is outstanding!

          1. re: BobB
            Science Chick Sep 28, 2010 12:31 PM

            Barry's in Waban has belly lox as well. Not sure of their source, but it is pretty yummy. My only beef is that you don't get it as thinly sliced as at Zabar's.....still quality flavor though.

          2. re: CookieLee
            galleygirl Sep 30, 2010 08:11 AM

            Actually, you can get kippers at most Whole Foods, Fresh Pond had them just the other day...

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            9lives Sep 27, 2010 07:02 PM

            Best place I've found for smoked fish is Barry's Deli in the Waban area of Newton. Some of the Russian markets, Bazaar or Berezka als have it.

            For CB, I like Michael's Deli in Coolidge Corner and pastrami at Sam LaGrassa's Deli in Downtown Xing..weekdays only. SLG also makes a very good corned beef.

            None of these places compare to Russ & Daughters or Katz's or whatever you think is the best of NY but they're very good.

            Michael's Deli
            256 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446

            Barry's Deli
            21 Beale St, Quincy, MA 02170

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            1. re: 9lives
              Kunegunde Sep 27, 2010 07:42 PM

              Ducktrap Farm in mid-coast Maine has a few varieties. They do mail order and a lot of local stores carry some of their stuff. No stable, sturgeon or carp, though.

              Trader Joe's carries their trout, but as much as I like smoked things and salt, the trout got too salty for me a couple of years ago and I stopped buying it. I have liked their smoked oysters and scallops.

              1. re: 9lives
                Science Chick Sep 28, 2010 08:20 AM

                I second the recommendations for Barry's and Baza. Also, check out the Waban Market next to Barry's, which is a nice Russian market with alot of smoked fish (large whitefish chubs...yum!). Still not as good as Barney Greengrass, etc in NYC....we were fortunate to have breakfast there a couple of weeks ago!! MMMMMMM

                30 Tower Road, Newton, MA 02464

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                FoodDabbler Sep 27, 2010 06:44 PM

                I'd love to get an answer to this too. I have hunted unsuccessfully for sable, etc., for years in the greater Boston area. Occasionally you run across packaged stuff purporting to be smoked fish, but it's just rubber wrapped in plastic. The Fishmonger in Huron Village used to carry sable, but I don't think they do these days.

                It'll make you feel better to know that I'm on the way to Manhattan as we speak. I'll get myself some smoked fish on Wednesday. It's better that just one of us suffer than both.

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                1. re: FoodDabbler
                  lergnom Sep 28, 2010 05:09 AM

                  You can find many varieties at the Russian markets like Bazaar in Brighton and Brookline or Baza in Newton. I've bought sable et al there.

                  I've never seen herring in a barrel in this region.

                  30 Tower Road, Newton, MA 02464

                  1. re: lergnom
                    StriperGuy Sep 28, 2010 08:08 AM

                    Bazaar and Baza, yes. Not as good as Russ and Daughter's, or Zabars but darned good.

                    30 Tower Road, Newton, MA 02464

                    1. re: lergnom
                      galleygirl Sep 30, 2010 08:10 AM

                      No, but you can buy herring, loose, at Bazaar...
                      I've also gotten some amazing shrinkwrapped herring, out of NY at the new Russian place, Fresh Choice Market at Trolley Mall, or whatever it's called, at Rt.9 in Framingham...

                    2. re: FoodDabbler
                      FoodDabbler Sep 29, 2010 06:59 PM

                      Thanks lergnom and StriperGuy for the smoked fish leads. I got my fix (some belly lox and some sable) at Russ and Daughters today, went down the street to Katz's and got some pastrami, then went down Orchard to Laboratorio del Gelato and carried out five pints, including fresh fig.

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