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tochowchick Sep 27, 2010 01:41 PM

Want to start using this ingredient in some recipes...can my chow pals tell me, is it readily available in most grocery stores...Metro, Loblaws etc. or do I have to go to a specialty store? Also, does it come in a low fat version?


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    sheckles Oct 24, 2010 01:03 PM

    JennaBean wrote: "I tend to make my own ..."
    sunshine842 wrote: "It IS available in a lower fat version - the French word for it is epaisse ..."

    I've also made creme fraiche a couple of times, using non-ultra pasteurized cream and buttermilk, and it was incredible - but that was in nyc; in the two months I've been in Ottawa/Toronto, I've yet to see anything but ultra pasteurized cream which is frustrating because my understanding is that creme fraiche cannot be made with ultra pasteurized cream, or if it can it just ain't as good. So, I would like very much to know where in Toronto/Thornhill I can find non-ultra pasteurized cream, 'cause I've been looking in all the wrong places. On the other hand, if anyone has made creme fraiche using ultra pasteurized cream, please share your experience.

    And has anyone tried making it with the 18% cream I see in local stores?

    Thanks! svs

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      youdonut Sep 27, 2010 02:18 PM

      Pusateri's also carries this.


      1539 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M, CA

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      1. re: youdonut
        millygirl Sep 27, 2010 02:29 PM

        As does Sun Valley on the Danforth, and of course, my beloved Summerhill.

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          tochowchick Sep 27, 2010 03:20 PM

          Drat...I was at Summerhill today and didn't look for it...just slipped my mind...thanks MG

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            EarlyDrive Sep 27, 2010 03:55 PM

            Also at Fiesta Farms.

            Fiesta Farms
            200 Christie St, Toronto, ON M6G, CA

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        tochowchick Sep 27, 2010 02:09 PM

        Thanks so much folks...I'm not at all into the low fat thing...it's just that it's mentioned in a couple of my recipes so I was curious if it was available here.

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          downtownfoodie Sep 27, 2010 02:02 PM

          You can usually find it in Loblaws.

          Sure you can get the low cal version...it's right next to the "Light" duck fat :)

          There is really no such thing as low fat creme fraiche. You can substitute this, although it's not as close to the real thing as low-fat sour cream. Mix 1/2 cup of fat-free sour cream and 1/2 cup of 1% milk and 1 teaspoon of sugar. Cover and let stand out for 8 hours to thicken. Refrigerate for 4 hours before using. You can't boil it without it curdling like you can creme fraiche though...which is one reason it is so commonly used in recipes (well that and the wonderful rich fattiness of it :))

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          1. re: downtownfoodie
            lilaki Sep 28, 2010 05:39 PM

            i hate to ask a dumb question but where is it in the loblaws? i've gone to two different locations and haven't been able to find it. how is it packaged? carton? tub? who makes it?

            i gave up looking and just made my own using whipping cream and a dollop of yogurt.

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            JennaBean Sep 27, 2010 01:49 PM

            You can get it at most large grocery stores. Creme fraiche is about 26-30 percent milk fat on average. It is supposed to be very think and creamy. I would suggest that even if you did find a lower fat version, I doubt you'd want to use it. It is an indulgence item. Use it and love it but in it's intended form or why bother, you might as well use low-fat sour cream.... IMO.

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            1. re: JennaBean
              sunshine842 Sep 27, 2010 02:04 PM

              Creme fraiche isn't as sour as sour cream...and it's most important feature: it doesn't break when heated...yep, you can stir it right into simmering bouillon, and you'll get a lovely cream base, not simmering bouillon and a ladle full of....yuck.

              It IS available in a lower fat version -- the French word for it is epaisse (which I assume would be on the label in Canada!) Not sure how they do it, but the lighter version is yummy, too....far different than low-fat sour cream when compared to regular sour cream.

              1. re: sunshine842
                JennaBean Sep 28, 2010 10:08 AM

                I tend to make my own as I think it is better than the prepared product. I've never seen the low-fat version and for the love of food I hope I never do! :-)

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                  sunshine842 Sep 28, 2010 11:05 AM

                  sorry, but I buy mine from the lady who makes it, and it's dirt cheap. Your issue with that would be...???

                  The low-fat version is delicious...but don't think for an instant that it's LOW fat -- lowER, yes, but it's not like it's fat-free...I think the epaisse is 15% or thereabouts. Fat-free doesn't exist here...they're not that stupid.

                  1. re: sunshine842
                    JennaBean Sep 28, 2010 11:23 AM

                    I have no issue at all! For me, when it comes to items such as cream fraiche I consider it a treat and indulge in the real thing when the mood strikes me otherwise I'm just not interested in it. To me it is like one of the other posters said, you'll find it next to the lowER fat duck fat.

                    And IMO I think often when things are made to be something they are not - ie lowER fat most often something is lost in the translation so to speak - or something (like sugar or additives) are added to make up for the loss of the other.

                    I almost always prefer the item in their nature form I just don't eat as much of it or as often. Ie sour cream, yogurt, hot chocolate etc... I have yet to find a low fat sour cream which I personally think is worth eating. I'd rather eat the real deal in a small amount or just not at all.

                    1. re: JennaBean
                      sunshine842 Sep 28, 2010 11:35 AM

                      they do reduced fat here by making it with lower-fat milk. No agar, milk proteins, or edible plastics to copy the mouth feel...it's still real food.

                      1. re: sunshine842
                        JennaBean Sep 28, 2010 12:15 PM

                        We just have different opinions of modified products. I don't enjoy them on the whole and maybe you do. C'est tout!

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