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Sep 24, 2010 03:12 PM

Karl Ehmer's Closing????

I heard that the Karl Ehmer store/plant on Fresh pond Road in Queens is closing Sept. 30. Anyone know if this is true and if so why???? Where can I get leberkase now???? Say it ain't so Karl!

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  1. Maybe the Karl Ehmer's store in Fresh Meadows carries it.

    1. Their website says the store is relocating, but does not include the address of the new location.

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      1. re: ChrisPlatt

        Where on the website does it say that? They don't even list that location anymore.

      2. Just heard from one of my clients (who was a former butcher at Karl Ehmer) that it's closing and the recipes have been sold to a Canadian company. Don't know if it's true or not.
        Get your leberkase at Morscher's butcher shop on Onderdonk between Forest and Catalpa in Ridgewood.

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        1. re: Lourdes11

          Are all Karl Ehmer's locations closing?

            1. re: Lourdes11

              I Googled around and couldn't find any confirmation of this. Can you supply a link or is this just a rumor?

              1. re: Bob Martinez

                By email, a Karl Ehmer representative confirmed the news, which I first read here: "The main retail location (where orders are currently shipped from) on Fresh Pond Road in New York will be closing on September 30th." The adjoining facility — which manufactures traditional German meat products for its own retail stores as well as independent grocers — will also cease operation, the representative added. "But the Ehmer brand will still continue through new ownership, and they are hopeful to open another retail location in the same area in the future."

                1. re: DaveCook

                  Theres an article in todays NY Daily News about the closing of Karl Ehmer.The times changed along with the demographics of their customers. Hopefully KE will live on thru new ownership.

                  1. re: mrbeachy

                    Thanks for that. Here's the link.


                    "Today, there are still six Karl Ehmer stores in New York, Connecticut and Pennsylvania, but they are all independently owned. ... The well-known brand will continue to be sold in stores across the country, including the six "banner stores" that carry the Karl Ehmer name."

                1. re: Lourdes11

                  Morcher's is actually ON Catalpa between Onderdunk and Forest Ave. they have more of a slavic flair as opposed to the German taste of Ehmer. Zum Stamtisch, one of the last Greman restaurants in the city, and maybe the best, just happens to be opening a butcher shop right next to the restaurant. They're in Glendale on Myrtle ave, not sure if they're open yet, but it should be any day.

                  1. re: James Regan

                    Hi James Regan,

                    I'm by no means an expert but Morscher's seems a lot more German to me than Slavic—both in person and on their website:


                    True, the founders do come from Gottschee, part of Slovenia with a significant German ethnic community. However, weren't a lot of the German immigrants in Ridgewood from Gottschee—hence the presence of Gottscheer Hall on Fairview Avenue?

                    Anyway, when I go to Morscher's, I am struck by how different their offerings are when compared to, say, a typical Polish deli on Fresh Pond Road (e.g., Pulaski Deli) or Muncan on Myrtle Avenue. To me, the novice, Morscher's LOOKS pretty darn Germanic and not so Slavic.

                    In any case, I'm really looking forward to Zum Stammtisch opening a German butcher shop! That is marvelous! (Now get them to open a big open-air, backyard beer garden somewhere in the nabe!


                    Thanks for the tip about the butcher shop!


                    Glendale is hungry...

                    1. re: Glendale is hungry

                      Sad that Ehmer is gone. But the forest Pork store still has a shop on Long Island. Yes ZUM will be opening a Pork Store and Deli . DEc or Feb is when they will be opening . . Glendale need s a beer garden .

                      1. re: Glendale is hungry

                        You're right, James Regan, that Morscher's is on Catalpa between Forest and Onderdonk. However, I don't agree that it is more Slavic than German. "Glendale is hungry" is exactly right.... the Gotscheers are definitely Germanic, not Slavic. True, Morschers does stock some Polish delicacies such as pickled cabbage, but you won't find much difference between their offerings and Karl Ehmer. They also own their own smokers and no place can top their home smoked meats. During the holidays you can order a whole smoked pig. (I haven't been brave enough to do that, yet). They also make their own sauerkraut, which is delish. I believe one of the owners (Herb Morscher, Jr.) plays the drums in a German band.

                        1. re: Lourdes11

                          Their website -

                          ETA - I see that Glendale Is Hungry beat me to it.

                          1. re: Bob Martinez

                            Hi Bob Martinez,

                            Great minds think alike! But, what's most important is that:


                            Bring it all on!


                            Glendale is hungry...

                            1. re: Glendale is hungry

                              Morscher's has been on my list for a long time but I've never been. I'm planning on combining my trip with a visit to nearby Bosna Express.

                              Bosna Express
                              31-29 12th St, Queens, NY 11102

                              1. re: Bob Martinez

                                Todays Newsday 12-9-2010 highlighted a Karl Ehmer Store in Patchogue on 48 S. Ocean Ave. It also states there are two other stores on LI.

                        2. re: Glendale is hungry

                          Speaking of muncan on myrtle; i was corrected by the staff there, it is Romanian not Polish, which was my first impression and there is a very large variety of sausages, bolognas, salami etc They also have a fried pork in the case toward the back of the store that beats any fried pork bits I have had in colombian, puerto rican or dominican restauranta it really kicks butt and you can get them for about 5 or so a pound and they stay crunchy with enough skin, fat and meat on them I cant say enough (obviously) about em. Also they have a bologna with chunks of white fat and garlic which is a bit like mortadella. There also have a romanian style smoked ham which is supposed to be alot like a Prosciutto. Havent tried Morschers but have been to zum stammtisch which doesnt have a gigantic menu but what it has is very good and they give u lots of it, the desserts are very rich german bakery and servings are generous get two forks.

                          1. re: yumyumeatemup149

                            Hi yumyumeatemup149,

                            (by the way, your screen name cracked me up - when I first read it, I erroneously trasnposed the last "e" and "m" and then thought, "Gee, 148 other people on Chowhound had the same idea?")

                            Anyway, yup you're right. Muncan is pretty much Romanian. When I lived in Astoria though, I got to know the owner of the Muncan there on Broadway and he said that they were actually ethnic Romanians who lived in Croatia before coming to the U.S. So their wares may actually have a bit more of a slavic influence than one would expect but hey, who knows, I'm certainly no expert. I just find the whole blending of cultures thing interesting. I adore Muncan.

                            But, you should check out Morscher's too. I'll probably risk upsetting some folks here on this board but I've liked everything I've bought at Morscher's even more than anything I ever got at Karl Ehmer's.

                            Muncan's isn't really a fair comparison to Morscher's (apples and oranges, love them both).

                            So get thee to Morscher's!


                            Glendale is hungry...

                            1. re: Glendale is hungry

                              When I moved from Glendale to NJ, I found a comparable butcher in NJ. Kochers in Ridgefield NJ. Same feel , German butchers and home made specialties.

                              1. re: marid22

                                There is a Karl Ehmers in Hillsdale, N.J. They get their meats from the factory/plant/headquarters in College Point with one exception. The German style beef/pork hot dogs are from Kocher's. These franks are better than any I've had from butcher shops as well as commercial brands with the possible exception of Thumann's. And I've sampled hundreds of different hot dogs. It's my hobby. Many places buy these franks and sell them in their delis and stores. Butcher shops and pork stores sell them and often give the impression that they make them by claiming the franks are homemade. Yes they are, but made by Kocher's.

                                I spoke to someone at Karl Ehmer's and asked why the store in Hillsdale sold a brand other than Ehmer's. I was told that they weren't pleased that Hillsdale was selling franks from another source. The guy I spoke with sent me some Karl Ehmer's beef/pork franks. They were good, but not as good as Kocher's. Ehmer's also makes a quality natural casing all beef frank that is sold at Hillsdale.

                                As for Kocher's, it is an excellent butcher/pork store. I highly recommend their natural casing German style beef/pork franks.

                    2. The Forest Pork Store, which I've always thought better than Karl Ehmer, closed its retail operation in Ridgewood a few years ago, but still manufacture the wurst at the old site on Forest Ave at Woodbine St. And last I heard, they were still providing a service for their old Queens customers to call the store out in Huntington Station (631.423.2574) on Thursdays to order, then pick up the goods at the old Ridgewood location on Fridays.

                      Forest Pork Store
                      6639 Forest Ave, Queens, NY 11385