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WildSwede Sep 23, 2010 04:36 PM

Dine LA Week - Where you going?

I have reservations for both Water Grill (never been) and Spago (had a fantastic experience last year during Dine LA). What are your plans?

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Water Grill
544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

Spago
176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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    Ernie Oct 6, 2010 03:24 PM

    Water Grill
    Craft
    Gordon Ramsay
    The Tar Pit

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    Water Grill
    544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

    The Tar Pit
    609 N La Brea Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90036

    1. wilafur Oct 6, 2010 09:59 AM

      bazaar, xiv, the raymond, craft, jiraffe (maybe), fogo de chao.

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        jaykayen Oct 4, 2010 02:26 AM

        Reporting back after dinner Sunday night at Spago.

        The menu was slightly different, notably, the pork tenderloin was replaced with a half rack of Sonoma lamb. The tarte tatin was replaced with an apple vol au vent.

        The crab raviolini was to die for. I preferred it over the famous corn agnolotti. My date said his tomato soup was excellent.

        Rack of Sonoma lamb was very good. The beans it was served with was undercooked for my taste. My date did not like the braised short rib, and ate only half. Over-braised, over-salted, and just not worth the money. Order off of the regular menu if the cod or lamb does not appeal to you.

        Apple vol au vent, very good. Served with a quenelle of vanilla ice cream, which was excellent. This was paired with a dry Vouvray, which I felt was a complete failure. While the wine was nice on its own, combined with the sweet dessert, it steered it too sour. The sommelier asked me to try the pairing, and he would replace it if I didn't like it, but of course, he never checked back. While I agreed with him that pairing a sweet wine with a dessert is usually unsuccessful and too sweet, I think an off-dry wine would have been much improved.

        Fromage blanc cheesecake with apricot had some problems. The apricot was too sour. The chesecake was more like panna cotta, lacking density, richness, and sweetness. The tang and funk of the cheese, combined with the lack of sweetness, unfortunately reminded me of vomit. I ate 1/3, and my date ate the rest (either he disagreed on the vomit or was still hungry.) Honestly, I expected more from Ms Yard. The vol au vent was Spago-lite for dineLA, but the cheesecake doesn't even seem her style.

        Service, of course, was generally wonderful. Out of 6 dishes, we liked 4. I liked 2/3 wine pairings. They will probably get the kinks worked out as the promotion goes on, but the food tonight got a C grade.

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        1. re: jaykayen
          WildSwede Oct 4, 2010 11:12 AM

          Thank you for the update. I am planning on doing the raviolini, but have not decided on the other two courses. Will definitely take your comments into consideration. I love your comment about your date either disagreeing on the vomit or was still hungry - great! Thanks again!

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            cdub Oct 4, 2010 11:37 AM

            i'll be at spago next sunday. hopefully, no vomit during my dinner.

            i went to water grill. i thought hte restaurant was nice. the dishes ere good but nothing was spectacular in any way. had the oysters to start. good and fresh. you get 3 of them. i got the red fish. good dish. the fennel broth was very good. i had the red velvet pudding cake. good too. just nothing was special. they give a amuse of spicy salmon wrapped in cucumber and a chocolate/peanut butter truffle and a fruit jelly with the check too.

        2. Dommy Oct 3, 2010 11:14 PM

          As of now, Craft. They had me at Octopus Carpacio and Beef Cheeks...

          We also have our sights on Comme Ca's lunch, Del Rae for Mom's Birthday and Tam o Shanner since we have GCs to use! :)

          --Dommy!

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          1. re: Dommy
            goodhealthgourmet Oct 5, 2010 06:40 PM

            "They had me at Octopus Carpacio and Beef Cheeks... "
            ~~~~~~~
            ha! i had the exact same reaction :)

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            Harry Niletti Oct 3, 2010 03:34 PM

            In case you didn't know, OpenTable has a nice feature the next couple of weeks. They've assembled the dineLA restaurants on one page so that you can simultaneously check all of them for availability. See: http://www.opentable.com/promo.aspx?m...

            Two points to keep in mind: (1) Not all dineLA restaurants participate in OT (and, obviously, not all OT restaurants are part of dineLA). (2) Even those that do participate can have an opening when OT thinks they're fully booked -- so call the restaurant if you can't get the reservation you want on-line.

            -Harry

            P.S. Each of the next two weeks, I'll likely choose a couple of places from the following list of old favorites and new interests: Celestino, Drago Centro, Eva, Noir, Petrossian, the Bazaar, Valentino, Water Grill, and XIV.

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            1. re: Harry Niletti
              WildSwede Oct 4, 2010 11:10 AM

              Good point. I made both my reservations on OT. Thanks!

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              jadekarrde Sep 29, 2010 12:53 AM

              Jiraffe was one I sadly did not get to in the last two Dine LAs and I think their menu this time is better, so that's high on my list, unfortunately they're not open sundays. :(

              I've made reservations for Josie and we'll probably hit up a beach location in malibu for lunch one sunday.

              I'd love to do spago, but we'll be in SF the second weekend, hopefully it will be extended again.

              Last time I had really unexpected great experiences with Enterprise Fish Company (lobster makes it worth it) and Chart House redondo. of all places to have really excellent food, I was very surprised at how terrific it was. It was effectively one of the more romantic dinners I've had, being right over the ocean.

              Locanda del Lago and KZo (lunch) were misfires last time, though the crab avocado appetizer at KZo was possibly the best thing I ate during all of Dine LA last time.

              other ones on my consideration list, so hard to narrow it down...
              Michaels
              Hals (lunch)
              Lillys (lunch)
              Ocean & Vine
              Upper West
              Bistro LQ
              Upstairs 2
              The Six
              Waterloo and City
              Akasha
              Fraiche (culver)
              Locanda positano
              Warehouse
              Eva
              Craft
              Cafe Pinot (lunch)
              Jar
              lasher's american
              ninethirty at the w
              napa valley grill

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              Cafe Pinot
              700 West Fifth St., Los Angeles, CA 90071

              Jiraffe Restaurant
              502 Santa Monica Blvd., Santa Monica, CA 90401

              Akasha
              9543 Culver Blvd, Culver City, CA 90232

              Upstairs 2
              2311 Cotner Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90064

              Bistro LQ
              8009 Beverly Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90048

              Chart House
              2801 W Coast Hwy Ste 100, Newport Beach, CA 92663

              Upper West
              3321 Pico Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90404

              Waterloo and City
              12517 W Washington Blvd, Culver City, CA 90066

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              1. re: jadekarrde
                Porthos Sep 30, 2010 11:41 AM

                Bistro LQ. Easy. I just had dinner there last night. the cuisine is one of the most cutting edge in town. I'm embarassed so say I found out about this place so late in the game.

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7375...

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                Bistro LQ
                8009 Beverly Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90048

                1. re: jadekarrde
                  WildSwede Sep 30, 2010 03:50 PM

                  My mom loves the ocean, so we dine down there fairly often when we get together. I was also surprised how much I liked the food at the Chart House (Malibu). It is really good, service is great and you cannot beat the view! Ask for one of the booths so you can face the water (if you sit the tables next to the window you have to turn your head to see it).
                  Good luck with choosing! That is some wish list! ;-)

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                  Chart House
                  2801 W Coast Hwy Ste 100, Newport Beach, CA 92663

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                    yogachik Oct 3, 2010 01:58 PM

                    If your mom loves the ocean, the go to Catch at Casa del Mar. I always love it there. In addition, the new chef is really shining (I've been twice in the three weeks he's been there), and the Dine LA menu looks fantastic, which is his first menu there.

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                  mlgb Sep 25, 2010 04:11 PM

                  Cafe Pinot for lunch.

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                  Cafe Pinot
                  700 West Fifth St., Los Angeles, CA 90071

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                  1. re: mlgb
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                    maudies5 Sep 25, 2010 10:30 PM

                    The Grill on the Alley has a terrific menu. I know the food is going to be good and it's a great deal.

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                    manku Sep 24, 2010 12:23 PM

                    Probably Spago and perhaps Chinois....WP does a wonderful job during Dine LA...he embraces it, and doesn't make you feel like a second class citizen.

                    In fact, at Spago last year the Dine LA menu was featured prominently...our waiter said nearly 90% of the tables were ordering it.

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                    Spago
                    176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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                    1. re: manku
                      WildSwede Sep 24, 2010 01:42 PM

                      Yeah, we went there last year (after they extended Dine LA) and had the most wonderful time. Treated fabulously. Food was out of this world. Wine pairings were spot on. Perfect. October is my mom and my birthday month, so we use it as a birthday celebration (and save some money while celebrating!). This year when I asked her where she wanted to go she had mentioned several times "we can go to Spago again" and when I told her the places I had selected, she breathed a sigh of relief and confided that she had kept her fingers crossed and was hoping that we would be going to Spago again this year.

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                      Spago
                      176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                      1. re: WildSwede
                        wienermobile Sep 24, 2010 04:25 PM

                        Another for Spago.

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                        Spago
                        176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                        1. re: WildSwede
                          mollyomormon Sep 24, 2010 06:03 PM

                          Agreed on Spago. I went for last DineLA and everything from food to service to Sherry Yard stopping by the table and telling us that the reason she looks so young is due to regular consumption of the sweet corn agnolotti was really fantastic.

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                          Spago
                          176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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                        jaykayen Sep 24, 2010 12:07 PM

                        I've made reservations for Spago, on the 3rd, and can't wait for the menu to come out!

                        Water Grill looks really good, but the bf isn't into seafood.

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                          cdub Sep 24, 2010 07:43 AM

                          i have the exact same reservations and for the exact same reasons.

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                          1. re: cdub
                            WildSwede Sep 24, 2010 10:41 AM

                            I can't wait for Spago to release their menu.

                            I forgot to ask in my original post - please be sure to post about your experience once you have been there. I noticed that some of the places that were on the list at the first Dine LA of 2010 are not on the list this time (Grace, for example).

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                            Spago
                            176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                            1. re: WildSwede
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                              Jack Flash Sep 24, 2010 11:13 AM

                              Well, Grace is now closed (opening downtown sometime next year), so I can see why they're not on the list...

                              1. re: Jack Flash
                                WildSwede Sep 24, 2010 01:39 PM

                                Aha! That would be a good reason! Thanks!

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                                cdub Sep 26, 2010 04:47 PM

                                I've been waiting for Spago and Noir to release their menu.

                                It looks like there are a lot of places not doing dine la this time around. The one that sticks out to me most prominently is Wolfgang's Steakhouse. I had been waiting for a dine la to try it but I guess I'll have to find another reason.

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                                Spago
                                176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                Wolfgang's Steakhouse
                                445 N. Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                1. re: cdub
                                  avivale Sep 29, 2010 04:23 PM

                                  We went to Wolfgang's during a prior dineLA week. But when we got there, we decided that we'd be missing the full experience if we did not order the signature porterhouse (which was understandably not a dineLA option). Yes it completely defeated the point of going during dineLA, but we did not regret our choice. It was a memorably delicious evening.

                                  So my advice, cdub, is just go. And save room for the old-school ice cream sundae for dessert. :)

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                                    cdub Sep 30, 2010 02:00 PM

                                    point taken. since i've already tried peter lugers, i'd like to see how wolfgang's stacks up.

                                    1. re: cdub
                                      avivale Oct 6, 2010 01:21 PM

                                      My husband, who visited Peter Lugers several times while living in NYC, thought Wolfgang's measured up extremely well in the food and its style of presentation. It was quite nostalgic for him. Though he tells me decor of the restaurant in Bevely Hills is way classier!

                                2. re: WildSwede
                                  wienermobile Sep 30, 2010 11:20 AM

                                  The Spago Menu was just posted: Dinner $44
                                  Choice of
                                  Summer Harvest Farm’s Heirloom Tomato Soup
                                  with Fresh Ricotta Crouton
                                  Hand Sliced Arctic Char Gravlax
                                  with Lemon Cream and Buckwheat Blinis
                                  Dungeness Crab Raviolini
                                  with Chervil-Tarragon Scented Shellfish Emulsion

                                  Entrees:
                                  Pan Roasted Casco Bay Cod
                                  with Ratatouille, Basil-Potato Puree and Saffron Beurre Blanc
                                  Slow Braised Beef Short Ribs
                                  Garlic Croquettes and Natural Braising Juice
                                  Bacon Wrapped Kurobuta Pork Tenderloin
                                  with Roasted Apples, Spiced Marcona Almonds and Yukon Potato Purée

                                  Choice of Desserts
                                  Chocolate Bon Bon
                                  Creamy Manjari Chocolate Shell, Cherry Cordial Center
                                  Tahitian Vanilla Bean Cheesecake
                                  Preserved Royal Blenheim Apricot, Orange Scented Fair Floss
                                  Braeburn Apple Tart Tatin
                                  Caramelized Apples, Inverse Puff Pastry, Roquefort Glace

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                                  Spago
                                  176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                  1. re: wienermobile
                                    hyacinthgirl Sep 30, 2010 11:42 AM

                                    Thanks for posting! I made my reservation based on everyone's glowing reviews. Can't wait!

                                    1. re: hyacinthgirl
                                      Servorg Sep 30, 2010 11:49 AM

                                      Spago's Dine LA lunch doesn't look too shabby either:

                                      Lunch $28*

                                      *Price excludes alcohol, tax and gratuity.
                                      Choice of Appetizers

                                      Summer Harvest Farm’s Heirloom Tomato Soup
                                      with Fresh Ricotta Crouton

                                      Roasted Bartlett Pear and Prosciutto Salad
                                      with Burrata Mozzarella

                                      Crispy Monterey Bay Calamari
                                      with Marinated Cucumbers and Black Bean Vinaigrette

                                      Choice of Entrees

                                      Tagliatelle Pasta with Maryland Softshell Crab and wild Arugula

                                      Pan Roasted Casco Bay Cod with Ratatouille, Basil-Potato Puree and Saffron Beurre Blanc

                                      Grilled Kurobuta Pork Loin with Walnut-Parsley Pesto and Marinated Heirloom Tomatoes

                                      Choice of Desserts

                                      Chocolate Bon Bon Creamy Manjari Chocolate Shell, Cherry Cordial Center

                                      Tahitian Vanilla Bean Cheesecake Preserved Royal Blenheim Apricot, Orange Scented Fair Floss

                                      Braeburn Apple Tart Tatin Caramelized Apples, Inverse Puff Pastry, Roquefort Glace

                                    2. re: wienermobile
                                      WildSwede Sep 30, 2010 03:47 PM

                                      YAY! Thank you! Looks FANTASTIC! Now I cannot wait til the 13th!! ;-)

                                3. Servorg Sep 24, 2010 06:28 AM

                                  http://discoverlosangeles.com/restaur...

                                  1. westsidegal Sep 23, 2010 11:06 PM

                                    dinner at Lilly's french cafe for sure.
                                    k-zo
                                    da pasquale

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                                      Jack Flash Sep 23, 2010 10:46 PM

                                      I'll probably do a lunch at the Palm downtown (soup or salad, 11 oz NY steak with truffled french fries plus another side for the table, key lime pie, all for $22). Might also go to Craft, currently my favorite restaurant in town. I'll be curious to see the Spago menu, though. Or maybe I'll finally try Bazaar by Jose Andres.

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                                      Spago
                                      176 North Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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