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berkeley bagel tsouris (yiddish for plaint)

sundeck sue Sep 21, 2010 11:41 AM

Went to get bagels for our break-fast. In years past, Manhattan Bagels on 4th St. in Berkeley had been the best of the lot. This year, they were beyond bad--so squishy you could barely slice them w/ a good bread knife. Please tell me where to get REAL bagels in the East Bay these days!

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  1. Robert Lauriston RE: sundeck sue Sep 21, 2010 12:05 PM

    I got a bagel at Berkeley Bagels (former Boogie Woogie Bagel Boy) the other week. Despite the sign on the door that they boil them the old-fashioned way, they were undercooked and doughy.

    Berkeley Bagel
    1281 Gilman St, Albany, CA

    1. wolfe RE: sundeck sue Sep 21, 2010 02:45 PM

      K'vetsh - Whine, complain
      Tsores - Troubles, misery Tsouris alternate spelling
      Plaint - Complaint; a lamentation
      So what we have here a bagel k'vetch that we got bagel tsouris but we already knew that.

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        sundeck sue RE: wolfe Sep 21, 2010 03:42 PM


        I just read the link above (thanks)--but it gives up on bagels after about two post and directs me to a roll at one of the fabulous non-bagel bakeries in berkeley (all of which are, indeed, fabulous)--trouble is, a brilliant morning bun doesn't alleviate my mourning (re the lack of a good bagel).

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          wolfe RE: sundeck sue Sep 21, 2010 04:37 PM

          The first 2 posts told it all. Would Ruth and I lie? You have a genuine complaint for which the is no good answer at present. And if you check other threads the bagel situation is apparently pretty bad everywhere with the possible exception of Montreal.

      2. escargot3 RE: sundeck sue Sep 21, 2010 04:40 PM

        gotta agree with you. Manhatten bagels were my faves as well.

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          fishmaven RE: sundeck sue Sep 21, 2010 06:32 PM

          Right on, Sundeck Sue! Those Manhattan Bagels were terrible!

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            Bigshadetree RE: sundeck sue Sep 22, 2010 04:56 AM

            I never had an "East coast" bagel so I cannot give a true comparison but I used to like the bagels from Brother's Bagels - years ago - I think they have changed owners a few times and are now called Berkeley Bagels. Right now my favorite bagels are Levy's - unfortunately they are out in San Ramon, since I work out that way I will stop by when ever I am not van pooling - located in the shopping center on Crow Canyon and San Ramon Valley Blvd. - near Safeways
            Levys Bagels & Company
            2435 San Ramon Valley Blvd # 7, San Ramon

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              redrover RE: Bigshadetree Sep 22, 2010 09:22 PM

              House of Bagels on Geary Blvd. near Park Presidio in the Richmond is better. Even better is bringing back a dozen from LA if you ever get down there.

            2. heidipie RE: sundeck sue Sep 23, 2010 09:50 AM

              The Marin Bagel Company bagels are the best I've found in the area. They've always been at the Bowl, and now I notice that the Telegraph Avenue Andronico's has switched from Posh to them. Honestly, I spent August in NYC and it's harder to get a classic bagel there than ever--try Marin.

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                Glencora RE: heidipie Sep 23, 2010 11:17 AM

                Monterey market carries Marin bagels, but the two times I bought them they were stale.

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                  DavidM RE: heidipie Sep 27, 2010 07:56 PM

                  Now THAT is good news - walking distance! But here's the critical question - does Andronico's have fresh ones on Sunday morning? The Bowl has Marin Bagels but they get delivered Sat and by Sun they're stale. Sunday NYTimes + real, fresh chewy bagels = the good life.

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                  pauliface RE: sundeck sue Sep 23, 2010 11:46 AM

                  Best Bet: Get a friend in NYC to Fedex you some bagels.

                  Barring that...

                  I used to go to a place on 24th in Noe valley (think it was Manhattan bagels at the time) and it has changed hands and is now Holey Bagel.
                  When last I went, this place was doing proper boiled double-process bagels and they were as good as I've found in SF.
                  They also had proper whitefish spread.

                  Can anybody confirm that they are still good and properly made?

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                    SunsetKid RE: pauliface Sep 24, 2010 03:43 PM

                    I may be wrong but I THINK I read that Draeger's in Menlo Park has H&H Bagels from NYC.

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                      wolfe RE: SunsetKid Sep 24, 2010 04:17 PM

                      Looks like deja vu all over again.*
                      I understand that Draeger's sells H&H bagels.
                      SunsetKid on Mar 07, 2010 01:28PM

                      I ordered a bunch, nothing special. It wasn't worth it.
                      wolfe on Mar 07, 2010 02:00PM

                      Yeah, H&H is basically Noah's imo. Puffy and sweet, like a soft sandwich roll.
                      a_and_w on Mar 10, 2010 09:50AM
                      *"This is like deja vu all over again."
                      -- Yogi Berra

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