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kathryn Sep 20, 2010 09:57 PM

Coming to Boston, tagging along with my spouse who is attending a conference.

We have two nights in the city, from NYC, and one is already earmarked for Craigie on Maine.

Is it sheer folly to do:

- Lobster rolls & fried clams at Neptune Oyster in the North End if the earliest we can get there is 6:30pm on a Friday night

- Drinks at Drink afterwards (whenever that is--8, 9)? I realize this is a healthy walk or a cab ride away.

Would you flip them? Skip one or another?

Husband loves lobster rolls (especially the buttery kind) and cocktails. We've heard great things about Drink. I'd like to try Eastern Standard too but the food menu seems kind of similar to lots of places in NYC.

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Neptune Oyster
63 Salem St Ste 1, Boston, MA 02113

Eastern Standard
528 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA 02215

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    FoodDabbler Sep 20, 2010 10:09 PM

    I don't have too much to say, but I respond mainly because it gives me a chance to thank you for all those terrific NYC postings of yours from which I've learned so much. (I'm based here, but spend a lot of time in NY.)

    I'd personally do both -- lobster roll and cocktails -- and in the order you suggest. Boston is not a late-night city, and you're better off eating when you can.

    1. StriperGuy Sep 21, 2010 01:27 AM

      Don't mean to be a wet blanket, but impossible. You will spend all night on line with the time slots you are shooting for even if you flip them. Neither is a place I would even try to hit on a Friday unless I could get to Neptune at 5:30 or so. And honestly Drink just does not rock me.

      The cocktails at ES are every bit as good as Drink without the preciousness. And Drink gets so slammed on a Friday you won't even really get the full craft cocktail deal. The food at ES is very good, but agree that for seafood it does not rise to the level of Neptune.

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      1. re: StriperGuy
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        kathryn Sep 21, 2010 06:53 AM

        You are a realist, not a wet blanket!

        1. re: StriperGuy
          gini Sep 21, 2010 09:48 AM

          I disagree - I walked into Drink with a party of 3 at 8pm on a Friday night this summer after dinner at Sportello and found seats really easily. It wasn't particularly packed, though it was more so as the night carried on What I was more upset by was the fact that our cocktails, while good, weren't particularly creative. Looking around, they were making the "play on an aviation" for half of the bar. Pretty lame, if it's supposed to be all personalized.

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          Sportello
          348 Congress Street, Boston, MA 02110

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            robwat36 Sep 21, 2010 10:38 AM

            I think a lot of people walk in and say, "Um, I like gin...and kind of sweet..."

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              jgg13 Sep 21, 2010 01:42 PM

              They definitely do seem to have a set list of a small handful of drinks that they toss out for what I'm sure are standard responess - like the "gin, and kind of sweet" example that you give. I've been with people who tend to ask for flavor profiles off the beaten path a little bit and they'll expand the selection a little bit - but I think you really either have to know what you're looking for or have them recognize you.

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                Canadian Tuxedo Sep 21, 2010 02:01 PM

                I find they definitely have that mental cocktail list, and that they throw one out there when they are sometimes feeling lazy it seems in my experience. I've gotten great responses to my generally specific descriptions in the past, but I've also had interactions where I've gotten a drink not really in the ballpark beyond base spirit.

                Though I've noticed the "everyone at the bar seems to have similar drinks" phenomena as well, it came into focus for me on one particular visit. I arrived about 4:30, so well before the after work rush, and there were only a few people in the bar. Some of the bartenders were discussing homemade vermouth, so I was inspired to ask for something vermouth forward or at least heavy. Instead I received basically what was a gin and St. Germaine drink.

                Which was fine until a few days later I realized why the drink sounded familiar as I was looking at the Cocktail Virgin blog and saw that it was a fairly new cocktail at Drink. Basically the bartender (who everyone knows about, so it wasn't inexperience) took my description, went through the current short mental list, and gave me something reasonably close (in this case, gin).

                I don't look for something ridiculously arcane or otherwise precious when I go to Drink, but it is frustrating when I make an effort to describe in some detail what I'm looking for and there is little effort made on the other end to take that into account. Might as well print that mental cocktail list and then let customers riff off of that if so desired.

                1. re: Canadian Tuxedo
                  jgg13 Sep 21, 2010 02:08 PM

                  I agree fully with that last paragraph.

                  I also like Drink, quite a lot actually. However, seeing the effect that you describe (and watching various friends who were perhaps a bit overly excited get their hopes dashed a bit because of it), the sheer awesomeness of it all did dip a bit for me.

                  1. re: Canadian Tuxedo
                    StriperGuy Sep 21, 2010 02:26 PM

                    Which gets us to the final point that the whole Drink concept: "we will conjure a potentially novel cocktail for every person who saunters up to the bar based on their individual hopes and desires" is a tad outré if not downright silly and pretentious, and perhaps even impossible.

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                      robwat36 Sep 21, 2010 02:38 PM

                      I don't think that's their concept, though. I think "we have a recipe that matches your taste" sometimes gets misconstrued as "we will conjure," etc. It's knowing and nailing the classics (and some newer creations that have already been vetted), not mixology on the spot.

                      1. re: robwat36
                        jgg13 Sep 21, 2010 02:52 PM

                        That said, I have seen them do mixology on the spot - and I'm talking in terms of doing it for average joe customers, not regulars.

                    2. re: Canadian Tuxedo
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                      Kinopio Sep 22, 2010 12:50 PM

                      From my experience it will go something like this:

                      Bartender: We have a few new things today. A strawberry simple syrup, a ___ and a ____.
                      Customer: Ooh! I want something with the strawberry syrup.
                      Bartender: Sure. Do you like gin?
                      Customer: Yes.
                      Bartender: We've been making a lot of South Sides, but substituting the strawberry syrup for regular simple syrup.
                      Customer: Sounds good.

                      I think that when they mention what the "specials" are, people are often interested in them and there is only so much you can do with that ingredient, so you end up with a lot of people at the bar that night with similar cocktails.

                    3. re: jgg13
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                      dfan Sep 23, 2010 06:52 AM

                      I've been trying to think of a polite way to say "I want to get something I've never had before" at Drink without coming across as snotty. I'd prefer not to give a super-detailed flavor profile because I want to give the bartender some room to play with, but if you make it too generic you often end up with a (very well-made) standard.

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                        MC Slim JB Sep 23, 2010 07:21 AM

                        Hmm, maybe those exact words, plus, "...and I've already tried everything on the blackboard."

                        http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                          cannedmilkandfruitypebbles Sep 23, 2010 10:17 AM

                          I guess i've been snotty enough to ask that very question at Drink and have always had good results. I usually give the disclaimer that I drink literally everything, so they have a lot to work with. And on a few occasions that has benefited me in the form of being poured leftovers from the shaker used to make someone elses drink. Drink is a place where the concept falls as equally on the consumer's ability to articulate their preferences as it does on the bartender to carry them out. If someone is shopping for a sports cars and another is shopping for a '67 L88 Corvette with a 427 under the hood, the person that knows what they like is going to get what they want. The instruction of "I like Gin" is very different than I'd like something with a Gin base, add in some fizz, and if you can figure out how to make the whole thing flame, that'd be cool." Of course you'll look like a D bag but if you can overcome this fear, the bartender will rise to the challenge.Try a Frenet Branca flip for something different.

                    4. re: gini
                      StriperGuy Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM

                      Aaaaah, but it was in the SUMMER on a Friday when everything slows down.

                      1. re: StriperGuy
                        gini Sep 22, 2010 07:18 AM

                        Yeah, but who goes out on a Friday in the FALL? Come on, it's all about Monday nights :).

                        1. re: gini
                          StriperGuy Sep 22, 2010 07:39 AM

                          Listen, we all know Fri/Sat is amateur night. I'm more of a Tuesday man myself, but I'm just sayin' Fall Friday Drink + Neptune Boston WILL be slammed.

                          Of course some significant portion will be Bridge-Tunnel, Tourist, Student etc etc etc...

                  2. MC Slim JB Sep 21, 2010 03:45 AM

                    I'm a fan of both places, but I tend to avoid both on Friday nights. Neptune is particularly tough if you don't arrive very early in service, and 6:30pm isn't early enough. Drink can be manageable on Friday nights now that they have started limiting customer headcount, but that can mean a significant wait in a line, the probability of which increases over the course of an evening till nearly midnight. A pain, I know, but at least you'd get reasonable attention from the staff once you got inside. It used to be such a five-deep shitshow on weekend nights that I used to say, "Avoid it like the plague."

                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                      cambridgedoctpr Sep 21, 2010 05:48 AM

                      Kathyrn; your posts inspire awe.

                      I think that StriperGuy has got it right; I woud not go out on a Friday night without a reservation especially to a popular place such as Neptune, Toro, Coppa, et al.

                      You might consider O Ya or Clio/Uni. Tony Maw of Craigie was the sous chef for Kevin Oringer of Clio; Oringer was the sous chef for Jean-Georges Von Gerichten during the fleeting period when J-G was in Boston. .

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                      O Ya
                      9 East Street, Boston, MA 02111

                      Toro
                      1704 Washington St, Boston, MA 02118

                      Coppa
                      253 Shawmut Ave, Boston, MA 02118

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                        cambridgedoctpr Sep 21, 2010 06:43 AM

                        Troquet has a good bar by the way with excellent prices for wine. I am not sure how packed it is on a Friday night.

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                        Troquet
                        140 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02116

                        1. re: cambridgedoctpr
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                          kathryn Sep 21, 2010 06:57 AM

                          Thanks for the tips! We're not huge wine drinkers unfortunately. Not sure I want to do a jG restaurant in Boston since he's got so many in NYC.

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                            cambridgedoctpr Sep 21, 2010 08:27 AM

                            neither Clio or Craigie are JG restaurants; just an interesting connection.

                      2. re: MC Slim JB
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                        kathryn Sep 21, 2010 06:55 AM

                        Jeez, you guys eat early!

                        For Drink, I guess I'm too used to NYC cocktail bars who don't allow standing and only admit for as many seats as are available. Or take reservations! I assume Drink will take more than they can seat but up to a certain number?

                        1. re: MC Slim JB
                          chickendhansak Sep 21, 2010 09:42 AM

                          Have you been to Drink since they started limiting headcount? What is it like inside?

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                            MC Slim JB Sep 22, 2010 12:34 PM

                            Yes. It is lively and full, perhaps one-deep at the bar all the way around, but not hectic and overcrowded. The staff actually has time for a word with most customers. I still far prefer late weeknights there.

                            http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                          robwat36 Sep 21, 2010 06:15 AM

                          I've actually left work early on a Friday to get to Drink by 5:10, and was glad I did.

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                            kathryn Sep 21, 2010 06:52 AM

                            Thanks for the input, it's extremely helpful.

                            Would you say that B&G has the second best lobster roll in town, relatively convenient to downtown? I'm wondering if it's better to reserve at B&G for Friday night and then try to get drinks elsewhere, like Eastern Standard.

                            I'm also trying to convince my husband to stay through Monday morning. Is Sunday night better for either Drink or Neptune Oyster? His conference ends around 6pm and we'd probably not arrive at either until after that.

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                            Neptune Oyster
                            63 Salem St Ste 1, Boston, MA 02113

                            Eastern Standard
                            528 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA 02215

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                            1. re: kathryn
                              StriperGuy Sep 21, 2010 07:01 AM

                              You'll be WAY better off at either on a Sunday.

                              Bostonian's do eat early.

                              The B&G lobster roll definitely has it's fans.

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                                kathryn Sep 21, 2010 08:30 AM

                                StriperGuy, it sounds like you're not a fan of the B&G lobster roll. Why not?

                                1. re: kathryn
                                  StriperGuy Sep 21, 2010 10:52 AM

                                  It's B&G I don't particularly like. Mostly fru fru attitude. I tend to get my seafood fixes at lobster shacks on the North Shore or make it my self. For seafood in Boston I really like East Coast Grill, but did not recommend it because it was geographically a bit far afield from where you were seeking to eat. Also it's not quite that fancy, just GOOD.

                                  For my idea of a good lobster roll see the end of this thread:

                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/727001

                                  Literally last night...

                                  1. re: kathryn
                                    Jolyon Helterman Sep 21, 2010 11:27 AM

                                    I'm a big fan of the B&G lobster roll; I think their mayo version (which is the only version they do) is better than its counterpart at Neptune. I also like the vibe there.

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                                    cambridgedoctpr Sep 21, 2010 09:33 AM

                                    besides Neptune, Striper, where do you go for lobster rolls?

                                  3. re: kathryn
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                                    robwat36 Sep 21, 2010 07:16 AM

                                    Great plan. Sunday evening is my favorite time to go to Drink.

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                                      Pegmeister Sep 21, 2010 08:40 AM

                                      B&G's lobster roll is quite good, but it is a cold roll served with a light dressing of mayo. If you're looking for a hot lobster roll with butter then you want Neptune. That said, I agree Friday is not the time to try to get into Neptune. Staying through Sunday, then you're much less apt to hit a line.

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                                        LeoLioness Sep 21, 2010 09:27 AM

                                        I went to Neptune at about 6:30 on a Sunday in late July and was quoted an hour and 45 minute wait time. Does that wait shorten once the summer feast crowds go away?

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                                          Gabatta Sep 21, 2010 09:33 AM

                                          Not really, the weekends are always busy. In the summer you will sometimes find 2 hour waits during the week as well. I usually stroll around the NE and settle into the bar at Bacco to wait.

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                                          Bacco
                                          107 Salem Street, Boston, MA 02119

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                                            Pegmeister Sep 21, 2010 09:46 AM

                                            I've never had to wait on a Sunday evening, but then again I do tend to check to see what events are going on in town, and I'm usually there by 6:00 if not earlier.

                                          2. re: Pegmeister
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                                            kathryn Sep 21, 2010 09:30 AM

                                            Hmm, now I'm wondering if we should try both!

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                                              teezeetoo Sep 21, 2010 11:11 AM

                                              personally i like my lobster roll for lunch from Alive and Kicking, (yes, it's not a roll, but a scali bread sandwich but it contains nothing but perfectly cooked lobster, a lot of it, with just enough mayo to keep it moist and it comes with no attitude). For dinner I much prefer the East Coast Grill (still, like Neptune, it suffers from the no reservations thing).

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                                              East Coast Grill and Raw Bar
                                              1271 Cambridge St, Cambridge, MA 02139

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                                                StriperGuy Sep 21, 2010 11:14 AM

                                                ECG rules! Less attitude excellent food.

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                                                  cambridgedoctpr Sep 21, 2010 11:36 AM

                                                  i agree with you about Alive and Kicking, but they close at 6 pm though earlier on a Sunday. It is not a roll! The owners are great.

                                                  i also like ECG which is not super convenient from the T and neither is Alive and Kicking.

                                            2. re: kathryn
                                              barleywino Sep 22, 2010 01:26 PM

                                              The B&G lobster roll is tiny and way overpriced. you're better off getting lobster rolls at Miel in the Intercontinental, which is not far from Drink. If your husband is partial to sipping rums, he can also check out Rumba which adjoins Miel (and also has the same lobster roll). Diplomatico might be a good one to start with :)

                                              1. re: barleywino
                                                StriperGuy Sep 22, 2010 01:32 PM

                                                Again, I really DON'T like B&G.

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                                                  kathryn Sep 22, 2010 01:41 PM

                                                  I'd love to grab a drink or two and some small plates at Eastern Standard but I don't know if it's worthy of a full dinner.

                                                  Since we're taking the train in from NYC that afternoon, I was seeking something "uniquely Boston," less formal, around $40-50 per person for food, and not something we have a lot of in NYC.

                                                  Does anything fit this near Eastern Standard? Or should we just eat there, knowing that the drinks are good?

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                                                  Eastern Standard
                                                  528 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA 02215

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                                                    robwat36 Sep 22, 2010 02:03 PM

                                                    I would totally eat at Eastern Standard. I don't know why it doesn't get more love on this board. Yes, it's in the upscale brasserie mold that's common in New York and elsewhere - but for me, the salt cod fritters, frisee/hazelnut/sweetbread salad, some bone marrow, and a charcuterie plate paired with some awesome cocktails sound like an ideal welcome to Boston.

                                                    Just make sure the Sox aren't in town.

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                                                    Eastern Standard
                                                    528 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA 02215

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                                              autopi Sep 21, 2010 01:19 PM

                                              we hit neptune last friday at about 6, and were seated within 5 minutes. i didn't get the impression there was a huge wait at any point during our time there (we left probably around 7, 7:30). take this for what it's worth, this might have been a complete anomaly.

                                              drink is about a 20 minute walk from there.

                                              1. hcbk0702 Sep 22, 2010 08:05 AM

                                                I've walked past Neptune Oyster once on a random Friday at 5:20 PM: it was completely packed (this is why I go for lunch instead). You'll have to try to fit it in some other time, unless you're willing to wait. But they have the best seafood in Boston (better than B&G), and I like it much better than NYC analogs like Pearl or Mary's. The fried Ipswich clams are especially good. This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I think East Coast Grill is mediocre.

                                                I wouldn't bother with Drink if it's inconvenient, as the overall talent of their bartenders seems far behind Death & Company, PDT etc. At the moment, it seems like the best cocktails in town can be found at the bar of No. 9 Park, another Barbara Lynch place. The Sazerac I had there was just as good as ones I've gotten at D&Co and The Violet Hour. Craigie has pretty decent cocktails. As for Eastern Standard, it's fine if you're looking for classic cocktails executed competently, but take a pass on the food.

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                                                Neptune Oyster
                                                63 Salem St Ste 1, Boston, MA 02113

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                                                  kathryn Sep 22, 2010 01:44 PM

                                                  We really like Pearl Oyster Bar and now I want to try Neptune Oyster even more! Damn!

                                                  Can you recommend a place that's near Eastern Standard that is "uniquely Boston," not formal, around $40-50 per person for food or so?

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                                                  Neptune Oyster
                                                  63 Salem St Ste 1, Boston, MA 02113

                                                  Eastern Standard
                                                  528 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA 02215

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                                                    teezeetoo Sep 22, 2010 02:05 PM

                                                    you'll find mixed views on the board, but I think the lobster at Summer Shack is great and the oysters are always fine. For a different take, Petit Robert Bistro is near ESK and is a likable and reasonably-priced french bistro. However, I actually think the food at ESK can be quite good, depending on how you order and I wouldn't hesitate to eat there.

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                                                    Petit Robert Bistro
                                                    468 Commonwealth Ave., Boston, MA 02215

                                                    1. re: kathryn
                                                      Jolyon Helterman Sep 23, 2010 03:25 PM

                                                      I usually don't double up on the same recommendation, but I'm getting buried by the haters: During my 10 years in NYC, I went to Pearl once a week—though I have to admit I was a bigger fan before they expanded to the next-door space (lost a little of the intimate-service appeal, IMO). Their lobster roll "recipe" is the one that I use at home. Great place. I still hold that B&G is as good or better than Neptune.

                                                      If you were into the wine aspect, I'd say that it's the better choice by far. But the seafood is excellent across the board, and I always have friendly, excellent service.

                                                      Across the street, the same owner/chef has The Butcher Shop, which is a nice place to go before or after.

                                                      There. I'm done.

                                                    2. re: hcbk0702
                                                      Splendid Wine Snob Sep 22, 2010 01:57 PM

                                                      I've gone for lunch too-and seen it slammed within 15 minutes of getting a seat at the bar. I concur that they have the best seafood in Boston, and its a definite no miss next time you're in Boston Kathryn. I dream of their hot buttered lobster roll on a regular basis, not to mention the incredibly well thought out wine list and delicious cocktails.

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                                                        cambridgedoctpr Sep 22, 2010 01:58 PM

                                                        i like East Coast Grill but not enough to recommend it to someone looking for the best in Boston.

                                                        That said, i eat there.

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                                                        East Coast Grill and Raw Bar
                                                        1271 Cambridge St, Cambridge, MA 02139

                                                        1. re: cambridgedoctpr
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                                                          FoodDabbler Sep 23, 2010 05:47 PM

                                                          Saying that you eat at ECG, cambridgedoctpr, is not saying anything. You eat everywhere (twice a month).

                                                          It's a tricky thing, isn't it, finding places in Boston to recommend to a New Yorker who's knowledgeable about food. The best of Boston may not hold up to the best of New York. It's better to think of places that convey a flavor of the city, and not worry about "the best". The North End captures one of our local flavors very well, I think, interwoven as it is with Revolutionary history, and unshrunken as the neighborhood is compared to Little Italy in NY. I'd second minneapolite and suggest that it's worth trying Neptune and getting a feeling for the North End while waiting. (But then, I'm one of those people for whom the destination is not as much the destination as the journey is. I'm not unhappy not getting into places, as long as the process is interesting. I waited for 8 hours in 95-degree heat in Central Park this summer starting at 5:45 a.m. to get tickets to see The Merchant of Venice. I failed, but had a blast anyway.)

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                                                            teezeetoo Sep 24, 2010 01:06 PM

                                                            always good to know yourself so you know what you enjoy. I'd rather eat at McDonald's than wait more than 30 minutes to get into any place. as a born and bred new yorker who returns often to a city I love, I think it's obvious that Boston isn't NY (size alone as well as money and ethnic differences affect the food choices). However, I think Boston has some things NY lacks: I honestly believe that outside of top end restaurants like Le Bernardin the fish is better here: certainly the lobster, bivalves and fried clams are better and less expensive here. I also like our Portuguese food and find our mid-range bistros generally more comfortable, better value, and of equal or better quality. My NY friends love places like East Coast Grill and ESK and they love the Super 88 food court and say these are the level of places that aren't easy to find in Manhattan. So, while there isn't a Per Se here, or a Babbos, I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what I can't have since the options are pretty good (except for pastry, alas, but then I'm not sure what's left of the great french bakeries in NY and you sure can't depend upon getting a good bagel there either).

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                                                            East Coast Grill and Raw Bar
                                                            1271 Cambridge St, Cambridge, MA 02139

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                                                        minneapolite Sep 22, 2010 07:40 PM

                                                        it might be tough and more than a little frustrating, but you def got the right idea, and i say it's worth giving it a go. here's my advice: get to neptune as early as possible. put your name in--expect a 1-2 hr wait. they'll take your cell phone #, and you can kill some time walking around north end. you could use this time wisely by waiting in line to secure some "modern pastry" cannolis for dessert. I went to drink last saturday at around 11:00 and there was a 45 min wait to get in. the bar was only half full, but they have some ridiculous rule now where they don't like it "too crowded." it was seriously less than half full at that place and everyone in line had "wtf?" written all over their face. waiting in line in this town for drinks/nightlife is a joke, so we took a short cab ride to "stoddard's" in downtown crossing. It was absolutely fantastic. wonderful old-time decor. enormous craftbrew draft selection--with five casks--and well executed cocktails, to boot. They, too, take their drinking rather seriously. in summary, do neptune (don't skip the oysters, either) and try drink (it will live up to its stellar reputation), but consider stoddard's as a back-up.

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                                                        1. re: minneapolite
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                                                          robwat36 Sep 23, 2010 11:30 AM

                                                          "waiting in line in this town for drinks/nightlife is a joke"

                                                          I didn't realize it was such a worthwhile pursuit in other cities.

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