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Best pizza and pasta in Paris

croissantaimecafe Sep 10, 2010 07:37 AM

Hello Foodies,

I'm looking for the best and (authentic) pizza and pasta in Paris. I have a preference for hole-in-the-wall, cozy, mom&pop restaus, but really, anything that can satisfy my craving will do. I'm talking about handmade spagetti, beautifully crusty pizzas with fresh mozzerella. Know any good places?

For reference, I'm from NY, and adore the pizza from Trattoria Zero Otto Nove, so anyone who recommends pizza that approaches that yumminess will receive my eternal gratitude.


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  1. souphie RE: croissantaimecafe Sep 10, 2010 01:12 PM

    How did John Talbott say? He had that way to write "forget about it" that was funny. Anyway: forget about it. Really.

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      John Talbott RE: souphie Sep 10, 2010 04:19 PM

      "How did John Talbott say? He had that way to write "forget about it" that was funny. "
      It's Brooklyese/Mafiaesque "faggedaboudit."
      I hesitated to write in response to the OP because I'm not French, rarely eat in Italian places here and prefer pasta I cook and pizza from Picard schmeared (that's Brooklynese too) with pepper flakes, smuggled in from Brooklyn, to anything I can get here.
      Figaro had a big pizza test a decade ago and #3 or 4 was in my nabe and it was kicky, but not pizza, altho' the entire staff was from Napoli.
      I do like some items at Mori however and can't complain about the pastas at a recent meal at I Cugini.

      1. re: John Talbott
        dietndesire RE: John Talbott Sep 10, 2010 08:20 PM

        Sorry to be a stickler but it is "fuhgeddaboudit".

    2. Parigi RE: croissantaimecafe Sep 10, 2010 01:27 PM

      "but really, anything that can satisfy my craving will do. I'm talking about handmade spagetti, beautifully crusty pizzas"

      Do you want just anything or do you want handmade beautiful stuff? The latter can't be found. The former can be found anywhere. You don't need this board's recs.

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        vielleanglaise RE: Parigi Sep 10, 2010 02:24 PM

        Although Italian food in Paris isn't as good as in...Italy, and is perhaps harder to come by than in the US, I find the following just fine, not necessarily for mind blowing food, but rather for unpretentious meals made from decent ingredients and with care and attention .

        Michel Angelo, a tiny Sicilian restaurant on the rue Andre Barsacq. I've had great arancini there, and wonderful pasta (dried, not "handmade beautiful stuff" ) cooked al dente comme il faut and with cockles, or bortaga, breadcrumbs, parsley and peperencino. It's very unpretentious, reasonably priced (count about 25 euros a head with wine), charming, and slightly chaotic, a bit like the places one can go to in Italy.

        For pizza, an unprententious dish, which is even when it's very good is never really that good, I find Maria et Luisa on the street of the same name perfectly adequate.

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          vielleanglaise RE: vielleanglaise Sep 10, 2010 02:35 PM


          I don't know if the OP is on holiday here is living in Paris, but if he's an Italian addict you can get fatastic Italian produce and at great prices at the Cistenino coop latte shops. There are stores on the rue Fbg Poissonierre, rue St Maur, and somewhere near opera. The cheese arrives direct from rome on Thursdays.

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            souphie RE: vielleanglaise Sep 10, 2010 11:02 PM

            I agree that there is some very good Italian food to be found in Paris. But no NY-style pizza, was my point.

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              Ptipois RE: souphie Sep 11, 2010 02:45 AM

              For pizza-style pizza there is always Pasta e Basta, at the Olympiades. Best accessed from rue de Tolbiac.

              La Gazzetta, rue de Cotte (12e), and Cafe Baci, rue de Turenne (3e) make good pizza. Trendy places so the pizze are small and delicate, made with good produce. La Gazzetta is famous for pizza bianca.

              As for pasta, if you really crave "beautiful, handmade stuff", the solution is to grab a packet of Setaro linguine at any gourmet Italian store and cook it. For additional ingredients Coop. Latte Cisternino will do the rest.

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                croissantaimecafe RE: Ptipois Sep 12, 2010 05:12 AM

                thanks, i'll check these out

              2. re: souphie
                croissantaimecafe RE: souphie Sep 12, 2010 05:16 AM

                I'm not necessarily looking for NY-style pizza, but just good pizza in general. Most place here are pretty frenchified, using hot pepper oil instead of hot pepper flakes, etc. Where do you get your "very good Italian food"?

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                  souphie RE: croissantaimecafe Sep 12, 2010 12:49 PM

                  There's no good rustic Italian food that I know of. When they exist, they have great succes and they quickly become very upscale, like the old Paparazzi. As Pti says, the best Italian is definitely Pasta e Basta in Chinatown. Otherwise, the good Italians are fancy expensive restaurants, not necessarily authentic: Sormani, La Pizzetta, what's the on in Buttes-Chaumont already. One that I love, but that has its ups and downs, is Luno Rosso in Romainville -- it's far far away for most readers, but it's good and it's cheap and not fancy ay all.

                  There are a few good Italian grocery stores. My favorite is Via Della Pasta, on rue Lebon (and there are other stores, check their website). It's my source for truffle and truffle products -- this should tell you how rustic and inexpensive it is.

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                    croissantaimecafe RE: souphie May 12, 2011 04:02 AM

                    Tried Luno Rosso twice and I'm definitely in agreement: good and cheap

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                    tmso RE: croissantaimecafe Sep 16, 2010 08:18 AM

                    I'll third the coop latte cisternino recommendation.

                    « Most place here are pretty frenchified, using hot pepper oil instead of hot pepper flakes, etc. »

                    I agree with the first half of that sentence (eggs!), but the second half ... oil is totally normal, it's N. America that uses hot pepper flakes on pizza.

                    « Where do you get your "very good Italian food"? »

                    I personally buy high quality ingredients and make it myself; but then, it's my family kitchen. It's an approach I can only recommend. For example, with the very good quality potatoes you get in France, my gnocchi are 10x better than anything I've had in Italy. I make and freeze pasta dough in batches, and defrost, roll & cut fresh pasta twice a week or so. Pressure cookers are a lifesaver for risotto, and in addition to the overpriced or autoimported Italian cheese, French cheese works wonderfully in risotto and on pasta (mimolette is my current favorite).

                    Oh, and one of the Italian stands at the Sunday market at Bastille has reasonably priced baccalà.

              3. re: Parigi
                Oakglen RE: Parigi Sep 11, 2010 07:03 PM

                I keep trying, at least in our part of the 7th that we frequent. Lots of new places opening up, usually on sites that were French bistrots. Many of the newer spots don't even offer pizzas (zoning issues?). Alfio is nice, but then as former residents of BOS, SF, NYC etc, our standards have been set set quite high by others. Good luck!

              4. pikawicca RE: croissantaimecafe Sep 11, 2010 07:11 PM

                I've spent a lot of time in Paris, and never had a craving for pasta or pizza. Seems extremely strange to me.

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                1. re: pikawicca
                  croissantaimecafe RE: pikawicca Sep 12, 2010 05:17 AM

                  I've been living here for a while, and my partner is an Italian food fanatic, so this is more for him than myself.

                2. meatnveg RE: croissantaimecafe Sep 12, 2010 01:36 PM

                  This recommendation comes from the Sardinian Server at Pozzetto's (the gelato place);
                  Il Gobbo (9th) just a litle north of blvd poissonerie west of the gate. tiny place, have to be paying attention to the names on the boards to see it.

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                    Parigi RE: meatnveg Sep 12, 2010 01:44 PM

                    Can't find Il Gobbo on line or in directory Sure re spelling? Doesn't it mean the hunchback?

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                      vielleanglaise RE: Parigi Sep 12, 2010 01:50 PM

                      Perhaps Osteria dal Gobo, 26 rue Bergere?

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                        meatnveg RE: vielleanglaise Sep 13, 2010 04:09 PM

                        @Parigi: yes it does mean hunchback

                        @vielleanglaise: it could be. She only named it Il Gobo. You could go and ask her the next time you go to Pozetto's or are around the marais area.

                        there are a few ladies that work there. This recommendation was from the one with short (male-style) blonde hair. Her name is roxanne

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                          parisjo RE: meatnveg Sep 16, 2010 10:49 AM

                          We went to a tiny little Italian place in the Marais last May called Caffe Angela on rue des Ecouffes. Everything was made to order and the pasta was delicious. We met a few locals who steered us to a couple of other restaurants not on the tourist track ~ Au Vieux Comptoir in the 1st and Au Fils de Saison in the 3rd.

                          Here's my blog entry on Caffe Angela:



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                            Buzzy2 RE: parisjo May 12, 2011 12:48 AM

                            Wow, so there's NO good pizza in Paris. How many hours will it take by train on the TGV to get to Italy?

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                              Parigi RE: Buzzy2 May 12, 2011 02:01 AM

                              Florence/Rome/Venice are a night train away. But if you want good pizza, Naples it is.

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                                vielleanglaise RE: Parigi May 12, 2011 02:19 AM

                                "But if you want good pizza, Naples it is." Tell that to a roman.

                                Saying that, and as mentioned above, I find the (more roman style) pizze at Maria et Louisa perfectly fine.

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                                Ptipois RE: Buzzy2 May 12, 2011 03:09 AM

                                Al Taglio, rue Neuve-Popincourt (11e). Great pizza sold by the weight.

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                                  Rio Yeti RE: Ptipois May 12, 2011 06:06 AM

                                  Al Taglio - best pizza I've had in Paris.

                                  Never been to Maria Luisa, but I did hear that it's pretty good also.

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                      foodiedanielle RE: croissantaimecafe May 16, 2011 02:25 AM

                      Pizzeria Positano in the 6th, amazing.

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                        UWSBB RE: foodiedanielle Jun 14, 2011 08:59 AM

                        I actually think Positano is mediocre at best, I live very close by.

                      2. souphie RE: croissantaimecafe Jun 15, 2011 02:38 AM

                        Sormani, on rue du Général Lanrezac, just opened Bistrot Sormani next door. I would try it with excitement, if I was not gluten-intolerant. It's all pizza and pasta.

                        From my wheaty days, I remember how awesome Sormani was, with the best Mac&Cheese ever. I also remember that my favorite pizza in town is at Pasta et Basta in Chinatown.

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