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After the recession, what will you buy?

Times are tough and we've all had to tighten our belts a bit. I've been unemployed for a while now but have two very interesting jobs that I may land. And they pay well! I now keep thinking of food items, and restaurants, etc. that I will be able to buy and go to if I get these jobs!

For me it's things like caviar, good wines and champagnes, and trips to french restaurants such as The Dining Room, or La Folie. And I can even get the bubbly water too! Also I'll be able to buy things like saffron.

I'll still keep my budget, but it will certainly be nice to be able to splurge again.

What things will you buy after the tough times are over?

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  1. I am in the same boat too cosmogrrl. I hope to be back to work in the next few weeks. What I miss is eating in really nice restaurants with nice service. We have been eating at home mostly and going to inexpensive restaurants for pho and such. Also I am looking forward to going to chocolatiers and pastry shops again.

    1. I've really cut back on fancy cheese. And I could really use a larger dutch oven.

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      1. re: Ruth Lafler

        Ditto on the cheese. The last ball of mozz I bought could have served my well in a doubles match, and little else. I don't even want to talk about the rest of the cheeses. I didn't even let myself buy the five buck Parmesan during the last marketing trip.

        I found a new job, but left (it was just . . . ugh), and so canceled the KA mixer (with dough hook), and try not to think about the pasta attachment. I'm focusing on ravioli as a test of my mettle, and calling it a day. Of course, a decently filled ravioli is another expenditure altogether.

        Also, I happen to like the cheaper cuts of meat, simply because I like to stew and pound and coax, but when I find my new gig, I really do look forward to buy a beautiful cut of meat, and treating it as simply as possible.

        And (deep breath), I just bought a bottle of soy sauce that was twice the size of the common household brand, for half the price. I skimped on soy sauce. At least that makes me laugh. The brand is Silver Swan, and I think I was suckered because the swan looks eerily (ominously?) like the swan on the Mercurochrome bottle from my childhood (the medicine that *didn't* hurt, my mother promised).

        1. re: onceadaylily

          Lily, what brand did you switch from, and how does the new brand compare?

          Recessions suck, but finding an acceptable alternative for half price is great! Actually, I think that sort of is the point of recessions. :)

          1. re: joonjoon

            We switched from Kikkoman (the boyfriend insists on it merely out of habit, I think.) We haven't cracked it open yet, but the Silver Swan doesn't seem to coat the side of the bottle for as long as the Kikkoman does after I've tilted it. The Silver Swan brand (which the internet informs me is popular in the Philippines) has 'caramel color' as an ingredient, while the Kikkoman does not. I didn't know 'color' could be an ingredient, and haven't believed it to be a flavor since I was seven. :)

            Okay, so I just went and tasted it. I agree with you that finding the good deal can be rewarding . . . but it is sadly not not the case with this product. The Silver Swan tasted a bit medicinal compared to Kikkoman, the sodium was more of a harder bite, was thinner, and lacked the warmth that soy usually has. The Kikkoman tasted downright buttery compared to this.

            I hope some of the harsher notes will dissipate with heat, because this might be destined to be my cooking soy. I see a lot of Bourbon Chicken in our future.

            1. re: onceadaylily

              Aww that's a bummer. Well even if it's not quite right on a straight up test it might be servicable in cooked applications like you said. But yes, 'caramel color' in soy sauce is a huge red flag and is usually a sign that it's not a naturally fermented product. Oh well. :(

              You know what's funny - I LOVE the bourbon chicken they serve at all the malls but I've never thought to make it at home! Do you have a recipe?

              1. re: joonjoon

                There are tons of recipes on the net, but this is the one I use. It's a down and dirty recipe, but, then, to duplicate something from the mall, it would have to be. But, it's cheap, easy, and fast. It's funny, I thought this was just so-so, but the first time I made this, the boyfriend called me from work the next day to ask if there was any left. "I've been thinking about that chicken *all* day," he said, longingly.

                2 lbs chicken, cut into bite-size pieces (I've used either breasts or skinless, boneless thighs)
                1-2 tablespoon olive oil
                1 crushed garlic clove
                1/4 teaspoon ginger
                3/4 teaspoon red pepper flakes
                1/4 cup apple juice
                1/3 cup brown sugar
                2 tablespoons catsup
                1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
                1/2 cup water
                1/3 cup soy

                Heat oil in a large skillet, and cook until lightly browned on each side. Remove chicken. Add remaining ingredients, heating over medium heat until well mixed and dissolved. Add chicken and bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer for 20 minutes.

                *I have also made the sauce first, and then tossed in leftover shredded chicken. I also, always, use more garlic than the recipe calls for.

                1. re: onceadaylily

                  thats funny, theres not a single drop of bourbon in that bourbon chicken...

                  1. re: asiansensation007

                    I assume that you drink bourbon whilst making it. ;)

                    Sorta like "I always cook with wine, and sometimes it ends up in the food". That's how I cook anyway...

                    1. re: asiansensation007

                      When I was looking for a recipe that approximated the mall food experience, I saw just as many recipes that lacked bourbon as well as ones that included it. I thought it was a safe bet that the stand at the mall *wasn't* using it, and went that route.

                      But cosmogrrl is right. I make sure to buy the bourbon anyway.

                2. re: onceadaylily

                  I ALWAYS bought Kikkoman andconsidered it the best soy sauce on the market till I too had to downgrade, I bought a bottle of "Blue Dragon" at about half the price and it turned out to be BETTER!!! Sweeter and smokier, which I like. Won't go back even after the recession!!

          2. I'm so used to watching the pennies, and so close to retirement (talking Social Security and tiny 401K), that I wonder if I'll ever splurge again! Well at least I have my memories. It would be nice to just go out to eat at a medium priced restaurant maybe once a month or so. And I'm working three jobs right now!

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            1. re: coll

              coll -
              I am in a similar boat -"retired" from my career, holding two low pay jobs, small pension etc. I find that I can go to nice restaurants more often if I just order what I want. For example, I frequently just have an appetizer and soup or salad. I have always enjoyed appetizers more that the mains in any case. A month or so ago a visiting friend and I went to a nearby semi-upscale place for brunch because we both love the house cured bacon. Instead of ordering a $20 brunch we both got a side order of bacon and a muffin. It was exactly what we wanted (BACON!) and about $7 each. I find this strategy allows me to go out more often and I am enjoying it more!

              1. re: Fiona

                Well that's a good idea, and the restaurants are happy to have anyone dining with them anymore. So I will keep this in mind, and plan some future expeditions. I've been trying to do just take out to save some money.

            2. Two things come to mind first:

              1. Fresh parm.
              2. (Assuming I can get over how angry I am about the current price of deli items) some decent roast beef and assorted cheeses.

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              1. re: Bryan Pepperseed

                We found out slightly belatedly that we qualify for food assistance, and we had been living off of my salary alone for a while (my husband's unemployment ran out), so even though I understand the economics work differently, psychologically it seemed like "found food money." We didn't go nuts (far from it), but that first shopping trip included fresh parm (which was on sale, fortuitously) and good roast beef. (The only other "splurge" item we bought were Muir Glen tomatoes.)

              2. Yeah, me too. I got laid off last year. We used to go out to eat a lot more.

                I just had a promising interview, and I allowed myself to start dreaming about remodeling the kitchen! We'd get new cabinets, vertrazzo countertops, and get rid of the hole in the middle of the floor (it's covered by plywood).

                We would probably go back to Europe to eat.

                Good luck with everyone's interviews. I wish you all the best.

                1. I've been laid off 16 months and have no real job prospects.When I 'm back working The first thing on my list is half a grass fed steer.Extra cash will go into savings or towards my home mortgage.

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                  1. re: dcrf

                    Have you asked any local farmers/ranchers if they'll let you pay on time? I never can cough up the full $500--600 bucks for half a steer, even in our best of times, but often I can arrange to pay over as much as six months' duration.

                    Good luck to you! Things are tough all around.

                    1. re: Beckyleach

                      Its from my son in law.He would give it to me but I like how it taste alot more if I worked for it.He did give me beef neck for my b-day.The best! Sorry about the slow reply.

                  2. Smoked cheddar and fresh parmesan, and with them I will make a most magnificent macaroni and cheese :D

                    1. I was out of work for 2 yrs. due to health issues. Been employed for 10 months, but no benefits - my health insurance is more than the mortgage! Once I got hired, my SO was laid off, so still pinching pennies for a while I suspect. Groupon has been a budget way to try new places to eat.

                      Once we are in good shape I would like to get the kitchen connected to the gas line and get a gas stove. It has been years since I've been able to cook with gas and I miss it. I would also like to get a small chest freezer ( if we can figure out a spot for it). A Duncan Phyfe table for the dining room would be nice too!

                      Foodwise I'd like to be able to sign up for a CSA again and go crazy in the cheese department.

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                      1. re: meatn3

                        LOVE Groupon! I still have my job, for now but I've been conserving cash like crazy just in case. . Thank God I live in an area with amazing inexpensive ethnic places. For me, it's nicer wines. I love Sancerres but it's hard to find a good bottle under 20...even at TJs.

                        1. re: meatn3

                          CSA here in the Shenandoah Valley seems to be full even before sign-up time. However, we have several Saturday markets where farmers bring their produce, and I have not lacked for produce in the summer.

                          Some farmers here put their apples out. They leave bags for you to fill them with and leave the money on the honor system. The lb. rate is cheap.

                          We have a very small garden which rounds out our needs.

                        2. Oh, DEFINITELY remodel the kitchen! This house was built in the early fifties, and the colors are dark brown, maize, avocado & dirty white. The work area is extremely small; I guess whoever designed it ate canned ravioli and frozen tv dinners.

                          As to actual food: caviar, and fancy cheeses.

                          Ah, to not have to read menus from right to left....

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                          1. re: Michelly

                            The best thing about everything is instead of going out to eat my family and friends get together and make meals at home.usually better results.

                            1. re: Michelly

                              Is there faux brick between the counter and the cabinets? A weird carpet that was patterned to look like yellow and green linoleum? If so, it was decorated last in the seventies, and my mother did the best she could (the ravioli was kept in the cupboard to the right of the sink).

                              My kitchen has a weird *porous* sand-colored linoleum that inhales the least amount of soil. I want to tear it up, and replace it with glossy black and white hexagon tiles, which I've no skill for installing.

                              1. re: onceadaylily

                                Be grateful you can't install the glossy B&W floor. You think the porous linoleum is bad, the B&W floor never looks clean, ever. Even my overly meticulous, fastidious gay couple friends have thrown up their hands in disgust at the impossibility of keeping that floor looking clean. They are saving now to replace it.

                                1. re: onceadaylily

                                  Oh, lilly - Were you in my kitchen? When we bought the house we had carpet in the kitchen too, but it was filled with words like cinnamon, mustard ketchup, paprika, et.al. all going in different directions. And yes, the faux brick is there as well. The carpet we got rid of, but the brick is still there. I just want my kitchen remodeled too. We were planning on it until I got laid off last year after over 20 years with the same company. No luck so far, either. But I am still looking.

                                  1. re: boyzoma

                                    Is there pink, red, and black shag carpeting in one of the upstairs bedrooms that does not at ALL match the cream, gold and blue wallpaper? If not, be grateful. The kitchen was the least of that house's problems.

                                    Sorry about the lay-off. Being unemployed is strange, like purgatory, isn't it? I wish you, and all of us crowded in this boat, much luck.

                                    1. re: onceadaylily

                                      One bedroom had orange and blue wallpaper with royal blue shag, Another had brown/yellow plaid with orange shag, A third had orange/pink/white striped on 2 walls and black with big flowers on the other 2 walls, also orange shag. Turtle wallpaper in one bathroom, Mustard/Gold foil wallpaper in another bathroom and red/white/blue daisies in third bathroom. The other 2 bedrooms are paneled dark brown. The living room had grasscloth on all the walls and green shag. But hey, we got a good deal and the first thing to go was all the wallpaper and shag carpets. But the kitchen cabinets and that brick still need to go!!!

                                      And, good luck to all my unemployed CH's as well. Keep looking. :-)

                                2. re: Michelly

                                  If I could remodel my kitchen, I'd start with Ikea for the cabinets. Just yesterday I was looking at their catalog and drooling. I know a designer who will economize with Ikea cabinets and splurge on other things, and it always looks fantastic.

                                  1. re: Niblet

                                    We're always trying to save money and did Ikea cabinets about five years ago. Saved thousands of dollars. And love the product.

                                  2. re: Michelly

                                    With you on the kitchen. Cheeses and caviar, too!

                                  3. Whole Organic Chickens
                                    Fresh Jumbo Scallops
                                    Ribeye Steaks
                                    Effen Vodka (we've been subsisting on Smirnoff and Pearl)
                                    San Marzano tomatoes

                                    1. I've been on disability now for a couple of months, before that I was on a very limited income. So, I dream of the day when my first disability check comes in. The kitchen is in need of an update and I need some new cookware. I highly recommend yard sales during the interim, I found a complete service for eight for 10 dollars and brought it home to find out that it retails for $46.00 a place setting. I even have all the serving pieces. It's amazing what people get rid of.
                                      I'd also fill the grocery cart with some thick cut ribeye's and some good aged cheeses. I also want to wish best of luck for those in search of work.

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                                      1. re: othervoice

                                        Put that service on ebay and make a buck or $300...

                                          1. re: othervoice

                                            Yes, but have you done the math?

                                            46 x 8 = 368 plus the serving pieces. A serious chunk of change.

                                      2. Wine, better cheeses and more of them, eggs from the farmers market, and my favorite cream top, glass bottled, organic milk. Can't wait to be able to try some nice restaurants. Most of all though, I can't wait to be able to splurge more on my garden.

                                        1. Starbucks, if they are still open by then.

                                          1. I want to be able to buy the bulk of my groceries from my local food-buying club (currently supplied by United Natural Foods; formerly from--Oh, how I miss them!--Blooming Prairie) and write that check for $400 or so bucks and not even blink.

                                            I miss having my pantry full stocked with entire cases of Muir Glen tomatoes, Pacific broths, organic canned goods of various kinds....buying pinion nuts by the 5# lot, etc. The security of abundance.

                                            1. My splurge would be to take some dear friends out for a high-end tasting dinner with wine pairings. I've been able to have them over for casual meals at my home, but would love to be able to take them someplace special where someone else does the dishes.

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                                              1. I rarely eat out nowadays. I had intended to start a blog reviewing restaurants in NYC, but that has been put on permanent hold thanks to the economy. I am looking forward to the day when I can look at a menu and not think how an appetizer affects my student loan payments.

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                                                1. re: JungMann

                                                  < I am looking forward to the day when I can look at a menu and not think how an appetizer affects my student loan payments.>

                                                  I'll second that!

                                                2. As others have mentioned, my top pick would be to splurge on better wine. Right now I'm buying cheap wine at Trader Joe's, and it's good, but I'd love to buy some insanely delicious wines. Ironically, now the better wines can be had for cheap, often below-market, but I'm just not in a position to take advantage of it. And when I am, the prices will go back up.

                                                  I'd also love to hire a cleaning service to professional clean my place top to bottom, that would be awesome.

                                                  But back to food, for meats like lamb and rib roast, and seafood like lobster and swordfish, I've been taking advantage of sales and deals to buy those things, and I expect I'll continue to do that even when the economy improves.

                                                    1. re: PotatoPuff

                                                      From a shelf I don't have to squat to reach!

                                                    2. A huge slab of salmon
                                                      12 year old Porto

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                                                      1. re: AnchovyBourdain

                                                        Lol, that reminds me. I'll have to buy a big slab of smoked salmon!

                                                        Once when my mom took me to San Francisco as a kid, we bought either a whole or half of a smoked salmon. Apparently I consumed most of it in a day or two. Lol, what an expensive way to discover one of your kid's favourite foods!

                                                        After the recession, I'm going to go to SF to stuff myself on fresh deep-fried calamari and smoked salmon!

                                                      2. Awww... what a great question and it's one that I was thinking about yesterday to myself. I thought that once the money situation loosens up a bit what will I change or revert back to. I also thought about what has the rescession taught me about spending money on things that really I have in the past considered the best, or top notch items. As I was shopping I looked at the waters I used to buy. I miss them, but no so much. The other is vanilla, good vanilla instead subbing a lesser expensive but not imitation, (but who knows it could be as good or not as noticable in baking). I also thought about my favorite cheeses, and organic foods.. I love some of them but triple price is ridiculous and I'm more than a little miffed at the way their prices continue to climb. I can afford them but It's disgusting that over the counter packaged deli meats are climbing as if they're something special. Egg salad and tuna here I come. Perhaps saffron. Good mention, yes that's one spice I've not bought and I'm out. I will buy saffron again. The rest aforementioned until they decline in prices, no I'll wait it out.

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                                                        1. re: chef chicklet

                                                          great point re:vanilla, forgot to mention the same.

                                                          1. re: AnchovyBourdain

                                                            The one I forgot was anchovies. GOOD anchovies, a must and I'm almost out!

                                                          2. re: chef chicklet

                                                            Bay leaves are my pet peeve these days. OK, it's just $8 - we're not talking saffron here. But why? WHY is that bottle $8? Drives me crazy, because how do you cook - particularly long simmered cheap cuts of meat - w/out them?

                                                            And I hear everyone's complaint about the deli meat. Our local grocery used to carry an assortment of branded deli meats. They were affordable, tasty, a decent value. But what did the store do? Convert 3/4's of their deli case to Boar's Head. I'm sorry, I enjoy Cajun roast beef as much as the rest of 'em, but if you think I'm paying over 11 a lb you are out of your mind. It won't happen in my lifetime and am glad I'm not the only one that is irritated.

                                                            1. re: shanagain

                                                              It wasn't that long ago (to me) that bologna and liverwurst were 99 cents or less on sale. Very little was over $2.99 or 3.99, even roast beef. When cold cuts cost more than filet mignon, I'm out. But I see people standing there for 15 minutes ordering a quarter lb of everything, it's all their fault ;-)

                                                              1. re: coll

                                                                I hear you. A decent sale on decent (real) ham was 1.99 a lb. Now if it's 5.99 a lb you're lucky.

                                                                No wonder we're in a recession! (I know, I know. Just went for the joke.)

                                                              2. re: shanagain

                                                                Stop buying those bottles! I live in a tiny community and even I can buy "bulk" spices. It will cost you almost nothing for those bay leaves without all the packaging.

                                                                1. re: shanagain

                                                                  shanagain - look on the international isle w/the mexican spices. You'll find bay leaf for less than $1. They are not as pretty but they work just fine.

                                                                  I am with you on the ridiculousness of the cost of deli products. Now I just pop a ham, turkey breast or roast in the oven for my deli fix @ under $2 a lb. These are some of the things I'll be keeping when things get better.

                                                                  1. re: shanagain

                                                                    You should be able to get the bay leaves for cheaper. I get them from the international aisle, a small pouch of them with brand name Badia, for a buck or two.

                                                                    1. re: Niblet

                                                                      Y'all are very helpful. If I were to shop at the nearest "city" (loose term - pop 116,484) I'd probably be in much better shape. Unfortunately even that has changed, and I tend to stick very - VERY - close to home for my shopping now. I've started a "when in 'town'" list for things not to forget. :)

                                                                      However, one point does remain - when the heck did McCormick raise their prices this high on bay leaves? Have they done it to other spices as well and I just haven't noticed yet?

                                                                      ETA: Sticking close to home to grocery shop? THAT is what will change. I used to regularly drive a half hour for routine grocery shopping, and made the hour drive referenced above at least once a month. Now I tend to shop at the teeny-tiny little local market that is 3 minutes from my home (and the only grocery-type store within that 30 mile radius, aside from a convenience store and a Family Dollar). It's been less of a challenge than I thought, but definitely more of a drag.

                                                                      1. re: shanagain

                                                                        But when you DO go there, you can get a year's worth. I haven't bought a spice in a jar in years.

                                                                        1. re: c oliver

                                                                          Yep, definitely. In many ways I'm going back to my early married days - plan, plan, plan!

                                                                          1. re: shanagain

                                                                            At my age, I have to have a list if there are more then three items :)

                                                                            1. re: c oliver

                                                                              Hah. I panic if I misplace my trusty spiral notebook. (Ever watch Flipping Out with Jeff Lewis? Yeah, think of that level of freak out.)

                                                                              In other news, I am just itching to make "an Abilene trip" today, but recent roadtrips to see my son in college have beaten my gas budget to all hell. Oh Texas, oh Shanagain, oh stupid humongous SUV.

                                                                        2. re: shanagain

                                                                          I too live outside a tiny town of about 2,000 and about 1 1/2hr the nearest small "city". My little grocery carries the little cello bags of spices above the very tiny Mexican section - so yours might too. Oh and Family Dollar might also. The turnover on these less expensive spices is also faster and I think they are fresher even at the cheap store.

                                                                          I do know what you mean about McCormick I don't know when they got so insane, but I do know its been years since I bought any of there stuff. No not true, last Xmas I had to buy smoked paprika and had to make myself think of it as a gift just to get myself to buy it. I think it was close to $10 for that little bottle, but needs must....

                                                                          I'm with you on the lists too. I now keep wet erase markers on the fridge so I can keep track of whats in there w/dates, as well as lists of what is needed on our trips to tiny town(15min) big town (45min) city (1 1/2 hr) and big city (3hrs away) and then my trusty notebook...yes complete panic! The family now knows to step aside and allow Mom to have her breakdown in peace or at least go find me a piece of paper! I try and keep tiny town trips to once a week and the rest as appointments require. As you say my lovely SUV can kill any savings PDQ!

                                                                          1. re: just_M

                                                                            I'm not sure I've ever looked at Fam. Dollar for spices - I will definitely keep my eyes open!

                                                                            1. re: shanagain

                                                                              Super cheap bay leaf success! Our grocery store has started carrying a range of cheap spices, and low and behold, bay leaves were amongst them - probably 25 leaves for $1.99. I am a very happy woman. (No, it doesn't take much.)

                                                                              1. re: shanagain

                                                                                Yeah for cheap spices! So much tastier than no spices ;-} Congrats shanagain

                                                                    2. re: chef chicklet

                                                                      We've not been unemployed because we're retired :) But we lost 40% of our retirement money when the market turned down. We just stopped buying. But not when it came to home cooking items. When I think about what I can cook versus what a substandard meal at a restaurant costs, the math worked for me. Now I grant you that we're no longer raising children which makes a difference. As we've recovered somewhat I'm carrying forward those cautions. Need to have versus nice to have. I just ordered anew cookbook and waited days and really thought about it before pressing the button.

                                                                    3. We were blessed to retire with an income the same as when DH was working. We were never affluent so we have always had to pinch pennies. We have managed to go on our first cruise, and are planning to do another. When we went to NH to daughters we brought back 2 doz cooked lobsters and I picked lobster for about 8 hours and we froze them, Lovely to have on hand. We lost when the market dropped but have regained beautifully. I look forward to rib eye steaks, and going out to eat more often. If you watch Acme food stores, they will run a good lobster sale every few months. $5.99/lb isn't bad, sometimes they are small, but we did get a 3lber for Fathers day. They also run their fillet Mignon for the same price and we try to have some of that on hand, just for a special meal. And we have a son in law that is at a low paying job waiting for the power plant for a refinery to reopen, and we may have to help them before long. We're grateful that we will be able to do that should the need arise. Thank God for putting his 401K into an annuity in 2006.

                                                                        1. re: ZenSojourner

                                                                          We'd all have a helluva party, wouldn't we?


                                                                        2. > What things will you buy after the tough times are over?

                                                                          I was thinking about how so many restaurants have closed in my town, and only the most popular have survived, and how I really don't go out to eat as much as before, but whenever I DO spend money going out, it had really better be good. I'm not interested in wasting money on some place that can't produce.

                                                                          I remember my Dad telling me, as we drove through small towns in rural Kansas looking for a spot for lunch, to only choose a place where the parking lot was full. Then you know the locals like the place. So in this economy, a full parking lot is one indicator of quality.

                                                                          I drove past a place on Saturday night (Royal Seafood in Avenel) and the parking lot was just completely packed! Maybe they are giving away the food, or there was a wedding reception, who knows, or maybe they really have something to offer.

                                                                          Anyway, the real question is, What things do you buy even though the tough times are not over?

                                                                          Remember how around 2008 the price of flour had just about doubled? Cheeses and dairy products were up about 50 - 60%. I've seen the ads for reduced prices of pizzas, but wow have the prices dropped! I hadn't had a Chicago Classic from Pizzeria Uno Chicago Grill since the last time I was in Chicago; over the weekend I saw that they are offering a two-for-one deal! Two pizzas for $20! So maybe it isn't just a recession... if prices are dropping so dramatically, don't they call that a depression?

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                                                                          1. re: GraydonCarter

                                                                            $10 is still a nice mark up on a pizza, the price of flour is back to normal, and cheese is much more reasonable. Right now butter is the crazy one, and with Christmas coming up, I'm sure it will stay there for the rest of the year. It's always something!

                                                                            1. re: coll

                                                                              Butter has really gone up a lot, I agree.

                                                                              1. re: coll

                                                                                > $10 is still a nice mark up on a pizza
                                                                                The same pizza at Numero Uno is $25 and at Gino's East in $27!

                                                                                1. re: GraydonCarter

                                                                                  Pizzas here are mostly $10.99 during the week, weekends maybe $13.99? These aren't chains though, just mom and pops.