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roxie Sep 4, 2010 11:05 AM

We'll be staying in Greenport and will have a car. We'll be there in mid October. I know we will eat at North Fork Table but would like some other suggestions. Noah's seems to get very mixed reviews. We were thinking of lunch at Brauns and at Salamander General Store. Frisky Oyster is a probablitiyl.

Any other places...wineries for tasting would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Frisky Oyster
27 Front St, Greenport, NY 11944

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    msv Nov 12, 2010 08:04 AM

    Hi, I'm also a local. I've become a big fan of the lunch truck that North Fork Table now has. Love the lobster roll, hotdogs and the pulled pork. It's a huge bargain. Yesterday tried to get into Love Lane Kitchen at 2PM for a late lunch. The line out the door was a huge turnoff. Grana is a pleasure. No longer BYOB although they are supposed to get a liquor license soon. We always enjoy Jamesport Manor. Last night ate at a Mano and they had a great menu for restaurant week, although we are happy to eat there any time.

    1. Motosport Nov 5, 2010 10:16 AM

      roxie, I know you have come and gone. Sorry I missed your original post. What did you enjoy while on the NOFO?

      Being a local I'll put my 2 cents in.
      Greenport: Frisky Oyster is our favorite local gourmet restaurant. The new owner/chef is faithful to the original vision. Fabulous and unusual offerings along with perfect service and ambience.
      Noah's was a bit noisy. Good food but small portions.
      Coronet luncheonette is a cute retro place for a good simple breakfast.
      Rhumb Line has great burgers
      Chowder Pot pub has a nice lobster roll. If the weather is nice and you can sit outside it's a plus
      Hellenic for high quality Greek and the freshest fish. We love the whole broiled fish, local catch.

      Southold Jen's Main St Cafe is our go to breakfast place. Creative breakfast and brunch offerings and fabulous baked goods. Get a biscuit with your breakfast if they haven't run out.
      O'Malley's also excellent burgers and fresh seafood
      Erik's for a nice casual out of the ordinary lunch.
      North Fork Table and Inn is exceptional but a bit overpriced I.M.H.O.

      Mattituck: Love Lane Kitchen for breakfast lunch/brunch and dinner can't be beat.
      Magic Fountain is our dessert destination
      Henry's deli across from the Hess station has high quality offerings and baked goods

      Jamesport: We had two awful meals @ Hawkins when Shaudel ran it. I guess we should try it again.
      Junda's bakery is awesome. Make sure you try their apple strudel.
      Grana pizza for coal fired oven pizza on a scale with the best of Manhattan
      Elbow Room for the best marinated steak I have ever had at a reasonable price.
      Jamesport Manor if you are looking for an upscale setting and gourmet fare.
      Jamesport Country Kitchen has a creative menu using local fish and veggies and reasonable.

      Aquebogue: Modern Snack Bar is like stepping thru a time warp. My best guess is that it was "modern" in 1956. Good soft shell crabs and sauerbratten along with the best lemon merengue pie on Long Island.

      Thanks for letting me share.

      Jamesport Country Kitchen
      Main Rd, Jamesport, NY 11947

      Elbow Room
      1055 Walnut St, Elmira, NY 14905

      Frisky Oyster
      27 Front St, Greenport, NY 11944

      Love Lane Kitchen
      240 Love Ln, Mattituck, NY 11952

      Magic Fountain
      Main Rd, Mattituck, NY 11952

      Modern Snack Bar
      PO Box 930, Aquebogue, NY 11931

      41 Replies
      1. re: Motosport
        smilingal Nov 5, 2010 10:59 AM

        thanks motosport - I have been visiting North Fork the past two years - love the area. I am saving your list for my next visit! Thanks! Hellenic has been on my list the last two visits but we never got there. I also like Erik's, have been to Love Lane Kitchen and North Fork Table and Inn but you have given us so many new ones to look forward to trying! BTW - I also fell in love with the Morning Glory Muffins at ... oh geeze - it will come to me - and I just made a version of them the other day.

        1. re: smilingal
          erica Nov 6, 2010 05:21 AM

          I would NOT drive out of my way to eat at Hellenic! I have not had the fish there but what I have had has been mediocre at best..this is really a glorified Greek diner and I am convinced that there popularity has more to do with location than food...they are only one of three or four places to eat east of Greenport..

          1. re: erica
            Motosport Nov 6, 2010 06:19 AM

            @ erica, NOT!!
            If you compare Hellenic to a typical Greek restaurant's (I would never compare it to a "diner") offerings: The gyro is fresh and hasn't been spinning around for a whole week, freshly cut cubes for the kebabs, fresh local veggies served with the dinners, excellent hummos and side dishes and very nice desserts. The broiled whole fresh fish is exceptional too!!

            1. re: Motosport
              smilingal Nov 6, 2010 07:32 AM

              I also had been recommended to have breakfast at Hellenic?!

              1. re: smilingal
                erica Nov 6, 2010 07:42 AM

                Look--I know it is a popular place. I think the food is pretty mediocre. It is certainly not comparable to a good Greek restaurant in NYC where is where I live most of the year, when I am not on the North Fork. Having said that, I am sure they can do a decent breakfast. I will also say that my standards are high; many of my neighbors eat weekly at the Hellenic.

                1. re: erica
                  smilingal Nov 6, 2010 07:55 AM

                  hey erica - I looked at your profile - and I tried googling for the recipe before bothering you - but can you please share DiPalo eggplant parmigiana? While you are at it would you also share Ricotta/Red Pepper Frittata?

                  1. re: smilingal
                    erica Nov 6, 2010 09:36 AM

                    Of coure! I am happy to share!

                    But I buy the DiPalo eggplant parmigiana ready made so have no recipe.

                    Here is the frittata recipe:

                    But I need to change the profile because I have a NEW favorite comfort food dish, also from Saveur. This is absolutely my favorite make-at-home pasta:


                    Also, the onion soup recipe is in the Molto Mario book. I have been making it about twice a month for a couple of years, in cold weather, and every time I make it, I comment on how good it tastes! And it is SO easy! You just need lots of onions...

                    1. re: erica
                      smilingal Nov 6, 2010 09:48 AM

                      THANKS! where do you get the DiPalo eggplant parm? The recipe for the frittata looks great - one of the reviewers suggested adding sausage - that sounds good too! As for Onion soup - I have had a favorite for many years which is easy and wonderful!

                      1. re: smilingal
                        erica Nov 6, 2010 11:10 AM

                        I get it at DiPalo on Grand Street in New York. This is a family owned Italian food store that is really worth visiting if you are a lover of good food!


                        1. re: erica
                          smilingal Nov 6, 2010 11:18 AM

                          funny - I have been searching their site but can't find the eggplant -

                2. re: smilingal
                  Motosport Nov 6, 2010 08:03 AM

                  Been there, done breakfast, pretty darned good!!
                  I would not compare Hellenic to a Manhattan place like Ethos. Then again, it's the North Fork on LI.
                  But saying it is like a "Greek diner!!" "I say, No, No, No!" (A. Winehouse)

                  1. re: Motosport
                    smilingal Nov 6, 2010 08:06 AM

                    We will be visiting again next year and will visit for breakfast - having tried Erik's both other trips.

                    1. re: smilingal
                      Motosport Nov 6, 2010 09:29 AM

                      Your best bet for breakfast is the Main St Cafe in Southold across from Rothman's dept store. Interesting breakfast specials and "to die for" biscuits.
                      The place luncheonette/ice cream shop that used to be on the IGA corner moved across the road and East. It was very good but we have not been there since they relocated.

                      Main St Cafe
                      6 N Main St, New City, NY 10956

                    2. re: Motosport
                      erica Nov 6, 2010 09:39 AM

                      Ok, how about saying it is about as good as a "good Greek diner???" YES,Yes, Yes!!

                      Maybe we can even say that it is the best eating place east of the Greenport line....!

                      Orient by the Sea is pretty horrible in my lone experience there.


                      I've not attempted Skipper's (which has at least one fan here on CH) or the place inside the Golf Course in East Marion....e gads!!!!!!!!!!!


                      But I will not darken the doorstep of the Hellenic anytime soon!!

                      1. re: erica
                        Motosport Nov 6, 2010 11:19 AM

                        How about a review of the snack bar on the Orient Ferry?? LOL!!
                        Have you tried the place that took over Shady Lady?
                        The only place East of Hellenic that I like is Candyman!!

                        1. re: Motosport
                          erica Nov 6, 2010 01:49 PM

                          Yikes! I forgot about the snack bar!!

                          No, I have not tried the Shady Lady/Cigar Bar/Portly Grape/Porkies place--I shudder when I drive by! Who is their clientele? I think the pickings in that area are really slim, as you might have already surmised. I actually liked Antares but of course that has bitten the dust...

                          Can you imagine if there was a really great seafood place on the water someplace out there?

                          1. re: erica
                            Motosport Nov 6, 2010 04:02 PM

                            I am always amazed at how few waterfront restaurants there are on the North Fork.
                            Sea Food? Chowder Pot on a sunny Summer afternoon is great if you eat outside and watch the ferries come into the harbor. Very good lobster roll!! Keep it simple.
                            O'Malleys has some nice fish specials on Friday.
                            Buoy 1 in Riverhead is decent. Canal Cafe in Hamton Bays is on the water and excellent.
                            Then again, Hellenic has nice local catch broiled to perfection.

                            1. re: Motosport
                              erica Nov 7, 2010 05:14 AM

                              All right. After all this, how can I refuse to try their broiled local fish? I will do so when I am next there...and I will be sure to report back!

                              Years ago I used to like the oyster BLT at the Chowder Pot Pub.

                              I had one meal at North Fork Table and thought it was superb. But agree that it is very expensive.

                              Noah's--far too noisy for me to return.

                              1. re: Motosport
                                EricMM Nov 7, 2010 06:53 AM

                                Billy's by the Bay is on the water...a casual clam-shack type of place. It replaced...maybe Antares? Not sure on that. Ate there once this summer and I liked it. There are definitely very few places like it on the NF, and there really should be more.

                          2. re: erica
                            MacTAC Nov 6, 2010 07:18 PM

                            "I've not attempted Skipper's (which has at least one fan here on CH)..."

                            At least two fans...

                            1. re: MacTAC
                              coll Nov 7, 2010 03:16 PM

                              I guess I'm their #1 fan? Old fashioned, 60s decor, so if that's not your thing I guess it wouldn't float your boat. But friendly as can be, the menu is not cutting edge but is perfection in its own way. The price is also closer to the 60s than now so that makes it very cool to me.

                              As far as Hellenic, I think their food is great, it's the service that's (more than) mediocre. Prepare yourself to sit for an hour before they approach you, and then another hour before you get your food. When you get it, it's worth it, but if you have anything else to do that day, you might want to think twice.

                              Orient by the Sea isn't the same since Peggy's gone, at least foodwise. Still love sitting at the bar chatting with the fishermen though. Pure nostalgia for me.

                              My favorite meal east of Greenport is something homemade or take out, carried out to Orient State Park and eaten at a state park/green picnic table looking at the bay at sunset, perhaps with a toast. We've even caught a few days around New Years that worked out well, just us and the seagulls.

                              1. re: coll
                                erica Nov 8, 2010 03:03 AM

                                I remembered that you really liked Skipper's! I WILL return to Hellenic on an off hour for their broiled fish. And report back!

                                1. re: erica
                                  Motosport Nov 8, 2010 03:09 AM

                                  SKIPPER'S!! I can here Gilligan now. I never thought of trying Skipper's but now............
                                  I love CH!!

                                2. re: coll
                                  smilingal Nov 8, 2010 05:10 AM

                                  that is another thing to add to my list for next year's visit - Orient State Park!
                                  As for the take-out - I will have to find what to do - we have done Salamander's the past two years for their fried chicken, and also the Goat Cheese Farm and the Bakery but not ones that are calling to return.

                                  BTW - Where do you stay? Suggestions appreciated!

                                  1. re: smilingal
                                    Motosport Nov 8, 2010 06:38 AM

                                    We are fortunate to live on the North Fork and spend weekends in Manhattan. I've heard good things about the Harborfront Inn next to the movie theater and the Greenporter a little bit East of the movie house but have no personal experiences. There is also a new boutique hotel on Main St but I can't for the life of me remember the name.
                                    There is a little place on the river in Riverhead called Farm Country Kitchen that does a very nice picnic lunch. We pick one up before going to the Summer vineyard concerts.

                                    1. re: smilingal
                                      coll Nov 8, 2010 12:55 PM

                                      I too live on the North Fork, but if I had to stay somewhere I think I'd try Soundview. It's right on the Sound just before Greenport and also on the North Rd, so right in the middle of everything. Not fancy like a bed and breakfast, but that's what we like (in the vein of Skippers).I had bought my SIL a night at Jedediah Hawkins a few years back, and she couldn't stop talking about it, so if you want something on the other end, I'd guess they're still renting rooms? Can't remember the new name, though, right this second.

                                      Why not stop at Spicys in Riverhead if you're craving fried chicken and the like? We always get a couple of take out platters for the Blues Festival, and everyone wants to know what we're eating! Now, please note, we always go to the State Park after the toll booth is closed ( 4PM?) that's when the day trippers and big parties are taking their leave, maybe an hour before sunset. And of course, they have those good old metal grills so you can just bring some campfire fare. There is also an unbelievable bird sanctuary just past Soundview, if you're in the mood for nature. We've eaten our lunch by the butterfly bush garden many times, before hiking down the cliffs to the beach.

                                      1. re: coll
                                        Motosport Nov 8, 2010 01:17 PM

                                        Luce and Hawkins is the new name of Jed Hawkins.

                                        1. re: Motosport
                                          smilingal Nov 8, 2010 01:36 PM

                                          oh wow - I hadn't realized that Jed Hawkins closed - how is the new restaurant - that had also been on my list - but with acknowledgement that it is overpriced and not the best. on par with nf table

                                          1. re: smilingal
                                            erica Nov 8, 2010 01:44 PM

                                            I don't know about hotels, either, but this place seems to get good press; not on the water, though:


                                            As does this place, with water views:


                                            Or,, further east, east of Orient village and near the state park:


                                            Or, if you want to rent for a few days or a week on the water, with a kitchen:


                                            1. re: smilingal
                                              Motosport Nov 8, 2010 01:50 PM

                                              We had two disasterous meals @ Jed Hawkins.
                                              I know it's totally irrational but we're not drawn to even try out the new place. Let us all know how it is.

                                              1. re: Motosport
                                                coll Nov 8, 2010 03:49 PM

                                                I firmly believe that restaurant sites get bad karma, and no matter who opens there, most likely it will have negative vibes: It would take something like an exorcism to get rid of it. That's how I feel about Jedediah, they ruined our anniversary one year and I never forgave them. Probably won't be trying out the new place anytime soon (plus I haven't heard anything since their big PR campaign when they first opened, not a good sign)

                                                1. re: coll
                                                  emarcus Nov 10, 2010 05:23 AM

                                                  Coll, I'm not promising you'll like it, but Luce & Hawkins is an entirely different and more serious venture than any of its predecessors. And you can have a casual and very reasonably priced dinner in the new glassed-in patio.

                                                  Don't know if it's kosher for me to link to something I wrote, but here goes:


                                                  1. re: emarcus
                                                    Motosport Nov 10, 2010 05:52 AM

                                                    Nice article. You've swayed me to give that place a try.

                                                    1. re: emarcus
                                                      smilingal Nov 10, 2010 07:26 AM

                                                      thanks - nice review - we will be trying it as well!

                                                      1. re: emarcus
                                                        coll Nov 10, 2010 09:36 AM

                                                        I've got them on my list, but it's the spring time list (anniversary and birthdays all at once). I'm really the eternal optimist. That and Comtesse Theresa, but just not in the ol' budget right now. Gee I hope everyone makes it through the winter!

                                              2. re: coll
                                                Motosport Nov 8, 2010 01:48 PM

                                                Spicy's rocks my world!! 1/2 chicken dinner is only $8 bucks with 2 sides. Forget about cooking dinner tonight! Tasty wings w/o all the yucky breading. Unique and tasty sauce for the wings. Great ribs and fabulous pulled BBQ pork sammiches. What can't they do??

                                                1. re: Motosport
                                                  coll Nov 8, 2010 03:51 PM

                                                  Their fish and fried oysters can't be beat either! But the mac and cheese is what my husband craves, me it's the collard greens and macaroni salad that comes with the meal.

                                                  1. re: coll
                                                    smilingal Nov 8, 2010 05:23 PM

                                                    ohhhhh - I want that NOW!! Collard greens and mac and cheese - and BBQ pork sammiches! Is their chicken fried? And to clarify - we are talking about Spicy's right?

                                                    1. re: smilingal
                                                      coll Nov 8, 2010 05:28 PM

                                                      Spicy's, yes. The one in Riverhead, although I used to go to Bellport, they're about the same.

                                                      1. re: coll
                                                        roxlet Nov 9, 2010 04:58 AM

                                                        Where in Riverhead, coll?

                                                        1. re: roxlet
                                                          Motosport Nov 9, 2010 05:43 AM

                                                          On West Main St just East of the Library. Can't miss it. Looks like an old trolley type diner. South side of the street.

                                                          Main St Cafe
                                                          6 N Main St, New City, NY 10956

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                            stefathena Sep 8, 2010 09:08 AM

                            Love Lane Kitchen is a great option for breakfast, lunch or dinner. Dinner would need reservations. The place just has a great vibe. Favorite lunch meal option there is the fish tacos. My biggest problem with this place is they always overcook the meat.

                            Make sure you get cookies to take home when you go to North Fork Table! They are the best.

                            Here's a question for everybody, has the service at Vine in Greenport improved at all, because it was always a big ol' mess in years past.

                            Love Lane Kitchen
                            240 Love Ln, Mattituck, NY 11952

                            1. roxlet Sep 8, 2010 05:50 AM

                              Don't forget the ice cream shops! There is Magic Fountain in Mattituck right next to the strip mall that has Starbucks, and there is Snowflake in Riverhead. Both have special, homemade and unique flavors.

                              Magic Fountain
                              Main Rd, Mattituck, NY 11952

                              1. s
                                smilingal Sep 7, 2010 02:53 PM

                                Get the fried chicken from Salamanders - they are known for it! We went to Blue Duck - much less than what we expected - but certainly good bread to take to the wineries. Still like Eriks (not sure if it is with a c or k) for breakfast - and I think they get their bread from Blue Duck!

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                                  dixdiner Sep 7, 2010 09:54 AM

                                  Restaurant picks from the others are spot on. I'd add Jamesport Country Kitchen on Main Road in Jamesport and Founder's Tavern, Main Road, Southold, a place held in high esteem by locals (especially for brews and simple fare).
                                  My winery picks: Lenz, Paumanok, Bedell, Shinn, Raphael, Macari, Jamesport (Sauvignon Blanc(, Lieb (Pinot Blanc).

                                  Jamesport Country Kitchen
                                  Main Rd, Jamesport, NY 11947

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                                  1. re: dixdiner
                                    foleyd7 Sep 8, 2010 04:59 PM

                                    I 2nd all the wine requests from dixdiner with a couple additions: Roanoke Vineyards, Waters Crest, the Tasting Room, Sherwood House.
                                    And if you have time for a day trip to the South Fork, hit Wolffer and Channing Daughters.

                                  2. coll Sep 6, 2010 01:27 AM

                                    Maybe Comtese Theresa Bistro will be open by then, it's on the top of my list to try. She has a vineyard too.

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                                    1. re: coll
                                      scarlet knight Sep 6, 2010 06:57 PM

                                      We stayed in Greenport for Labor Day weekend. Noah's was very good. We could not get into North Fork Table. We had Saturday night reservations at the Farm House. We were done in 45 minutes and the salmon was off. Casual lunch at Love Lane Kitchen was good. On the same street, the cheese shop was exceptional..they heard us discussing burata and they brought some out for us to eat! Don't go to Bruce's cheese shop in Greenport unless you have a day to kill. For wineries--Laurel Lakes and Shinn were our favorites. Try the Cab Franc at both.

                                      Love Lane Kitchen
                                      240 Love Ln, Mattituck, NY 11952

                                      1. re: scarlet knight
                                        MacTAC Sep 7, 2010 07:11 PM

                                        "Don't go to Bruce's cheese shop in Greenport unless you have a day to kill."

                                        In a good way or a bad way? So interesting and good, or service so bad?

                                        1. re: MacTAC
                                          stefathena Sep 8, 2010 09:05 AM

                                          I think the poster means it in a bad way. The service is atrocious.

                                          1. re: stefathena
                                            erica Sep 10, 2010 02:55 PM

                                            Not only is the service atrocious, but their par-baked baguette wins the prize for the worst bread on the East End.
                                            Nasty place.

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                                      EZ Pass Sep 5, 2010 12:42 PM

                                      Besides North Fork Table and Inn, Luce & Hawkins (Jamesport) is probably the only other must eat.


                                      Lunch at Braun's good idea, as well as lunch at Southold Fish Market (take out and eat on benches overlooking water.) Noah's and Frisky both good if not great and new place in Greenport, Farmhouse, also getting good reports as well as restaurant attached to Vine Wine Bar. Also in Greenport, Aldo's for great biscotti and his own roasted coffee and Sacred Sweets for baked goods.

                                      In Mattituck, eat casually at Love Lane Kitchen and shop at Village Cheese Shop.

                                      Wineries of interest: Paumanok, Croteaux (for rose) and new one, McCall's.

                                      Check out bread at Blue Duck in Southold. New pizzeria in Jamesport, Grana, getting some good notices.

                                      Village Cheese Shop
                                      105 Love Ln, Mattituck, NY 11952

                                      Southold Fish Market
                                      61850 Route 25, Southold, NY 11971

                                      Love Lane Kitchen
                                      240 Love Ln, Mattituck, NY 11952

                                      Vine Wine and Cafe
                                      100 South St, Greenport, NY 11944

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                                      1. re: EZ Pass
                                        erica Sep 6, 2010 04:50 AM

                                        I've not been yet to Luce&Hawkins, as it is a bit far from my base further east, but I do concur on most of the comments above:

                                        Noah's is good enough: Last week we enjoyed the following: Zucchini blossoms, stuffed with cheese and lightly fried; pulled duck; lamb meatballs with pomegranate glaze; pork dumplings.

                                        The fritto misto with calamari was greaseless and good but for every one piece of calamari there were three of fried vegetables.

                                        A special of hamachi (from Hawaii, according to the server) collar was a real miss--boring and should not be on the menu.

                                        The noise level at Noah's is off the charts and would be one reason that I would think long and hard about returning. And we ate at 6pm on a weekday!

                                        I'd like to hear more about the various breads at the Blue Duck--also if they offer any good cakes or other sweets...

                                        North Fork Table is a standout.

                                        A Mano in Mattituck can be pretty good...for Italo/American fare.

                                        1. re: erica
                                          Tara N Sep 7, 2010 05:29 PM

                                          I live within walking distance of Blue Duck- lucky me! All the breads are really good- well, I haven't tried the bagels there (bit of a bagel snob) but the multigrain baguette, the chocolate bread, and most of all the sour rye are incredible. On the sweet side I am addicted to their shortcrust turnovers (cherry and blueberry, as well as apple!) , the blueberry scones and their ginger, oatmeal, or chocolate chip cookies. The pies last fall were amazing. Nothing is cheap and they sell out many items early, but their coffee is also very good- well worth a stop.

                                          About the restaurant scene- I also found Noah's to be unbearably noisy and maybe a bit overhyped cuisine-wise. I recently had a wonderful cheese plate and skirt steak w/mashed potatoes at Vine, topped off with tasty, not overwrought homemade cupcakes for dessert. They have limited outdoor seating, but the new indoor space was very cool.

                                          Erik's on the North Road in Southold is a favorite for breakfast and lunch- check out the daily specials and get extra soup or turkey chili to take home.

                                          Founder's Tavern on the Main Rd. in Southold is much better than you would expect a pub to be- stay simple with the burger, fried fish with homemade potato chips, etc. and good beer.

                                          Wineries- I think Croteaux sold out and is closed for the season; I like Lenz and Lieb for wine, and Corey Creek for the view- just order whatever is their newest wine and bring a nice takeout lunch from Erik's.

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