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Sep 1, 2010 09:02 PM
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Demeyere vs All-Clad

Going to purchase new cookware in the next few months. I love All-Clad and Demeyere. Does anyone know why Williams-Sonoma discontinued Demeyere cookware? I'm torn between the two. I've read a lot of reviews of Demeyere. The claims were the welded handles are not as secure as the riveted handles used in All-Clad. I like the welded design because I don't have to worry about food gunk getting stuck behind the rivets. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    1. Talee, City Kitchens in Seattle has a serious September sale on both brands. (Much less than Williams & Sonoma.)

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      1. re: Leper

        I agree, Leper. City Kitchen's sales are fantastic!

      2. All-Clad all the way. Watch Food Network programs. There's a reason many of the chefs use All-Clad. It may be because of a deal "forged" with the network, but I swear by AC's quality.

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        1. re: firecracker

          Me too. It's a joy to cook with my All-Clad skillets.

          1. re: firecracker

            I love my All Clad as well. But when I see the crap cookware those TV chefs put their names on, I completely lose confidence in any product endorsement they may offer--whether explicit or implied.

            1. re: drtrech

              Honestly, I have a set of All-Clad copper core and I hate it. Really, I hate the saute pan. It's not balanced and the handle actually hurts when I try and pour something out of it.

            2. re: firecracker

              I actually went to purchase a set of All-Clad this week and found that it is no longer made in the U.S. it is not manufactured in China. So I opted for a set of demeyere Industry 5 cookware. It is manufacutred in Belgium. Very satisfied with it! I am not comfortable with cookware manufactured in China.

              1. re: bjrow

                You are quite mistaken. All Clad is made in the US. Perhaps you were looking at Emeril? That is the cheaper line.

                1. re: brooktroutchaser

                  Actually, they're not mistaken. I work in the industry and can tell you the following incontrovertible fact: All-Clad makes plenty of products overseas.

                  Most of All-Clad's roasters are made in China.

                  Their cast aluminum pieces (nonstick finishes) are, too.

                  Until recently, a lot of their lids had been shipped off to China.

                  The "Gourmet Accessories" - tools, collander, tea kettle, lasagna pan, etc. are all made in China.

                  Before calling out someone else, at least do your research.

                  1. re: ProfessorBear

                    What? Are we talking a turner or a saute pan? What does it mean to say "you work in the industry?"

                    1. re: brooktroutchaser

                      Anything All-Clad sells that has a disc bottom has been made in China. That's 90% of the stockpots labeled All-Clad that you see in any store. They're the ones that cost only an arm and not a leg to go with.

                      The company's tri-ply, D5, Copper-Core, and Copper chef lines are made in Canonsburg, PA, about 30 minutes from Pittsburgh. Most everything else is not.

                      As for your final question, I work for a national kitchen-goods retailer. I won't disclose which one. I know what I'm talking about because it's my job and livelihood to know and to answer my customers' questions. I sell the product and can tell you without fear of successful contradiction that All-Clad makes plenty of their products in China.

                      1. re: ProfessorBear

                        Thank you for the clarification, Professor. May you earn tenure soon.

                        1. re: ProfessorBear

                          From what I've seen in stores, All Clad has two different boxes that their products come in. One is white and these products are made in the USA and the other is gray and these products are made in China. The white boxes contain pots and pans, while the gray boxes contain things like griddles, roasting pans, and accessories such as the spoons and ladels, etc. I'm guessing at that point that any disc bottom pans made in China would come in a gray box, but I don't recall seeing these.

                          I think it's fair to say that if one is refering to cookware and product lines from Tri Ply to Copper Chef, that these are made in the USA, but one does have to be carefull to note the origen of the roasting pans, etc.

                          1. re: mikie

                            For the most part, you're right.

                            The Grande Grille and Griddle, the colander, etc. do come in the charcoal grey box with the red band. Those, indeed, are made in China.

                            The roasters, however, are where things get tricky. They come in the white boxes with grey text on them. They look like the boxes filled with American-made contents, but they're anything but.

                            I have no qualms with them making products abroad. That's their prerogative. However, I've had customers mistakenly think that ALL All-Clad is draped in red, white, and blue.

                            I've retired my All-Clad and purchased Demeyere Atlantis. Overall, I've found it to be superior cookware. Even the slightly cheaper Industry5 feels better in hand, cleans better, and - in my perhaps amateur perception - cooks more evenly.

                    2. re: brooktroutchaser

                      Amended: All Clad sets, which is what bjrow referenced, are made in the US. AC does sell some things such as roasters which may be imported, as noted by Prof. B. and mikie.

                  2. re: firecracker

                    It's not a "Deal" so much as they place product very well and flood the airwaves with it about as much as you see Le Creuset all over television and movies.

                    Just because it's all over the TV doesn't make it a great product. Otherwise, we'd all own Flowbee hair cutters and Ron Popeil's "SET IT AND... FORGET IT!" crap.

                    1. re: ProfessorBear

                      I have a couple of Atlantis Pieces - they are true to size as stated.

                      IMO, their I5 lines, is somewhat misleading. It always seems to be 1/2 - 3/4QT smaller than stated size.

                    2. re: firecracker

                      This must be a joke (albeit a 4 year old joke). There are so many products used on these shows that you will rarely, if ever, find in a commercial kitchen. All-Clad's emergence as the "choice of professional chefs" is purely the product of marketing and product placement. In over a decade and a half in the industry I saw maybe one All-Clad pan.

                      And the OP wanted to choose between Demeyere and All-Clad, so merely saying "I have All-Clad and really like it," does not address the issue of whether it is better than Demeyere (which, by the way, it most definitely is not).

                      1. re: randallhank

                        I couldn't agree more. Industry standard? Based on what? Their special 18/10 steel, or maybe their awesome handles? Right.

                    3. City Kitchens sale is fantastic, I agree and the prices on All Clad and Demeyer are really good right now. I would go there and talk to someone who works there, their staff is really knowledgeable.
                      Personally I lean toward Demeyer, have 2 pieces and LOVE them!

                      1. Sur la table has them if you want to look at it in person.

                        Me... must... resist... the sale..........