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Ramen and Pastrami Lunch in Alexander’s Steakhouse Lounge (Cupertino)

When I first learned via Stett Holbrook ( http://twitter.com/svdining/status/13... ) that Alexander’s Steakhouse was serving ramen for lunch, I couldn’t help but grin. This was the kind of sly, sort of smug smile that comes from sharing a secret or being part of an inside joke because I know how much Chef Stout and J. C. Chen love noodles of every kind. Stout inherited his Japanese mom’s palate and Chen’s dad was a noodle-pulling Shandong chef. Before the restaurant opened five years ago, Chef Stout and his partner, J. C. Chen, hashed out many of their dreams and plans over many bowls of ramen around the South Bay. Then I’d get an email letting me know whether they agreed or disagreed with my opinion/ranking of that ramen shop. Maybe that helps answer the question posed by Tripeler in the earlier thread.

Driving down to Cupertino to give Alexander’s ramen a whirl, I thought back to those days trying to recall their favorites. I was trying to anticipate what style they’d offer in their own restaurant.

Lunch is served in the casual Alexander’s lounge Tuesday through Friday. The bound menu presented with flourish was a reminder that I was a guest in a fancy steakhouse. It was hard to not be distracted by the mouthwatering descriptions of piled-high sandwiches in this temple of meat, but I was here for the ramen. The beverage side offers fancy cocktails, as well as non-alcoholic beverages and a variety of teas.

Pot of flowering jewel tea, $10

I've also had the housemade lemonade, $5, and the non-alcoholic fruit cocktail drink, $8: fresh strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, orgeat, apple cider.

Ramen choices range from $10 to $12 with three broth flavor options: Alexander’s (cloudy and rich), Miso, or Aka Butter (spicy). My server explained that the miso and spicy broths were variations of the Alexander’s base.

I decided to pair the Angus beef shortrib topping with Alexander's cloudy and rich stock ramen, $10. My prediction that the ramen would be robust, concentrated and heavy came to life in this bowl. The Alexander’s broth was cloudy with emulsified fat and collagen, meaty rich, and gravy-thick. A huge portion, this was one of the few times I haven’t polished off all the noodles. Jam-packed into the bowl, probably not twirled in the stock to loosen, some of the noodles stuck together.

As one would imagine at a premier steakhouse, the beef short rib topping was fantastic. So succulent, velvety in the mouth and exploding with beefy richness from careful searing and braising of the fatty cut. And not just propped up on the surface, the short rib showing in the photo was only the tip of the meaty iceberg hidden below the soup. The 65-degree egg had a little firmer white than most other sous vide eggs, which I preferred, and the runny yolk spilling into the broth took this over the top. Toasty nori, fresh spinach, fish cake, scallions, and shitake mushrooms completed the bowl.

My second visit I picked Yaki Ebi (grilled white shrimp) and pork belly chashu topping with miso broth, $12. The large shrimp had great texture and fresh sweetness, but one was overcharred and had some bitter notes. The roasted pork belly was even better than the beef short rib, the best piece of cha shu I’ve come across on a bowl of ramen. Tender, well-seasoned meat striated with sweet firmish fat was punched up even more by the flavor contributed by the well-browned crust and some last-minute grilling.

The stock was not quite as dense this time, earlier in the lunch service. The miso flavor was rather monotonal. Once again the boatload of noodles were compacted in the bowl and stuck together. A scatter of tenkasu (bits of stray tempura batter) added richness and crunch.

These were both pretty impressive bowls, mostly for the quality of the meats, and deliver excellent value in the quality-quantity calculus compared to the price level. While the concentrated and deep broth was enjoyable, the palate-coating meatiness turned plodding and dull before too long. More complexity, brightness, or sweet-briny seafood elements would bring it to life. I have not had a chance to try the spicy version and maybe that broth offers the lift I craved. The presentation of the noodles needs work, separating them before cooking and then loosening them in the broth before adding the toppings. And one petty criticism, the knife work on the green onions could be more precise.

Comparing Alexander’s ramen composition with that at Orson in San Francisco, both kitchens turned out excellent toppings made with top-notch ingredients and cooked with great care. Orson’s housemade noodles beat Alexander’s, but Alexander’s broth was in a whole different league and much better crafted. Based on these two examples, Alexander’s Steakhouse enters the ramen ranking at #8.

My third visit here was for a birthday lunch with my mother. I had promised her a big pastrami sandwich. We started with sharing the Caesar salad, $10. This is half of an order.

I really appreciated that the kitchen split our order. And each half-portion of Caesar was topped with a 65-degree egg. A well-balanced lemony dressing, just the right amount of freshly grated cheese, nice croutons, aromatic snipped chives, and the lovely sous vide egg made for a very nice version of this classic salad.

Mom was away from the table when our split order of the Reuben was served. When she first saw this at here place, she asked, “What is that?” She didn't recognize it as a pastrami sandwich! And she was even more incredulous that this was just half. Later she wondered whether anyone really eats a whole one by herself. The house-cured pastrami had a good amount of tasty fat. Shaved thin and piled high, the meat was still a little chewy and just a bit too salty for me when tasted alone. But the whole package with the melted cheese, tangy sauerkraut, and dressing was eminently satisfying.

My half wasn't quite as abundant. But still, I could only eat a few bites and we both packed up our leftovers to take home. The slightly sweet Japanese potato salad was good too.

Here’s a closer look at the Premium Reuben Sandwich, $14 - Alexander's own pastrami, sauerkraut, gruyere cheese, 1000 island, toasted rye bread. Part of me wanted to hold out for the classic Russian dressing, but the 1000 island with the brunoise of red and yellow sweet peppers, onion and pickles was so well-composed, it won me over.

Maybe the biggest endorsement for this sandwich is that my discerning and budget-conscious mother asked me to tell my siblings about this place. She wants them to bring her back again.

Service was quite attentive and up to the standards I’d expect for a top dinner house even in the more casual lounge setting. The service and the quality of the food here feel like a splurge. Yet, the lunch tab makes Alexander’s Steakhouse an affordable luxury.

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Alexander’s Steakhouse in Cupertino defies the recession with sumptuous dishes for well-heeled diners
By Stett Holbrook (May 19, 2010 )

Alexander's Steakhouse
10330 N. Wolfe Road, Cupertino, CA 95014

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  1. That looks delicious! Any idea if they will be serving ramen at their SF place? Or maybe too soon to tell.

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    1. re: calalilly

      Ramen is a lunch-only item at the Cupertino restaurant. So, I'd suspect it's not in the cards for San Francisco unless the place is open for lunch.

      I was going to wait to post about the ramen here until I'd tried the spicy broth, as I think it might be a better accompaniment to the toppings, the beef short ribs or filet mignon in particular. But I decided to post these first two now to give City folks some sense of what Alexander's is about. According to the website, SF is slated to open mid-September. And Chef Stout's twitter feed says he started training service staff this week.

      1. Thanks for the review, Melanie! I had no idea that Alexander's is open for lunch now. Ramen and pastrami........"these are a few of my favorite things".

        Will definitely offer it as a choice next time I take some clients in Sunnyvale out for lunch. We've been doing Birk's, but I think I'll steer them here instead.

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        1. re: Eugene Park

          It is odd that the restaurant's website makes no mention of lunch service. So I hope it sticks! Looking at the photos in the site gallery, the promoted dishes from the dinner menu are mostly in the tweezer cuisine, elaborate and fanciful presentation of micro ingredients, not what one would expect of a "steakhouse". Very different for from the lunch time heartiness.

        2. I'm a bit shocked at the prices. I would expect Alexander's to charge much higher prices, even for lunch in their lounge. I guess that's good news for us! I'm now curious about their $28 half-pound A5 Kobe burger on the menu.

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          1. re: vincentlo

            Please give in to your curiosity! I want to live that burger vicariously through you.

            I'm surprised at the prices too. Yet, the beverage list is priced pretty high, so i guess that's where they're making the profit.

          2. Thanks for the report Melanie.

            Slowly, the Japanese hegemony on good ramen is crumbling.

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            1. re: Cary

              Chef Stout is hapa, so maybe not as big of a chipping away as you think. The one thing the broth lacked was the briny, salty taste of the sea that i associate with Japanese stocks.

              Edited to add: For the shy 'hound who asked by email, here's the wiki on "hapa".

            2. Thanx for the report, Melanie. My husband and I tried the lunch menu on Friday and i was impressed. I had the pork belly ramen with the house broth and my husband went for the Rueben with a cup of squash soup. The ramen was fine and the pork belly was abundant, tho I am getting a bit bored with pork belly itself. My only problem was the size. It was huge and even on a cool summer day I felt bloated and needed a nap. They could size it down about a third and it would be a lovely lunch. It is hard to take noodles home in a doggie bag. The same could be said for the Reuben but half of it made it home for leftovers. The squash soup screamed of October and seemed out of season but was tasty. Hope the service lasts thru colder weather when a hot bowl of ramen will really hit the spot.

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              1. re: budnball

                Thanks for checking in. The ramen serving size is the biggest bowl I've ever been served (since I never order a "large" at the places that have them). Usually I leave some soup behind, but rarely noodles, but there was no way I could finish a bowl here.

                With the surcharges for add-ons at the various ramen houses, the tab for a bowl can quickly get up to $10 to $12. Comparing those with what you can get here at Alexander's in a much nicer setting, the value is readily apparent.