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Top Chef - D.C. - Ep. #11 - 08/25/10 (Spoilers)

LOL! Interesting way to start off the episode - in the morning at the TC House, Ed comes out of his room in Tiffany's dress when he gets up in the morning! Too funny!

And Kelly says in the confessional she wasn't surprised that Amanda was in the bottom 3 last challenge; she wants Amanda to go home. Meanwhile, Angelo is working through his brain to get himself psyched back up, while Amanda is laughing at Angelo saying mantras to himself. I'm wondering if Amanda and Angelo are going to be featured prominently in the bottom group this week, Magical Elves?

And then there were six! For the QuickFire, Padma starts to say various food sayings: Top Dog, The Big Cheese, Top Banana, Flash in the Pan...Padma's trying to get across the point of the QF, which is create a dish based on various Food Idioms. The winner's recipe will go into Schwann's frozen meals delivery service.

Kevin - Bring Home the Bacon
Amanda - The Big Cheese
Kelly - Sour Grapes
Ed - Hot Potato
Tiffany - Spill the Beans
Angelo - Bigger Fish to Fry

As they start the challenge, Ed is trashing Amanda in the confessional, while Angelo is saying that he thinks that Amanda is a dark horse. Amanda is getting a LOT of confessional time, which Angelo is talking to himself a lot.

Ed's Hot Potato gnocchi dish looks GREAT! Angelo makes a good point about Kevin's Bacon 3-way dish - it would virtually impossible to become a frozen dish.

Rick Moonen didn't like Kelly's Sour Grapes dish, nor Amanda's Big Cheese baked mac & cheese dish.

The dishes that were on the top were Kevin's bacon dish - so maybe Moonen isn't thinking about how the dish could be frozen as well? Ed's Potato dish was also a favorite of his.

And Ed wins the Quickfire! Angelo said he can see Ed's face being on the wrapping of the frozen dish, as "Ed's face kind of looks like a potato." ;-)

For the Elimination Challenge, they're going to take over two concession stands at Washington Nationals Park on a Game Day during the pre-game. They're tasked with creating game snacks, but with a higher-end flair to the Scooby Snacks. They're working as ONE team to create the snacks.

Chef Rick Moonen is again the guest judge, and baseball players Adam Dunn, Matt Capps and John Lannan make an appearance.

During planning, it gets interesting - Amanda said she wanted to do something cold with crab, but THEN Kelly said she was planning on doing crab cakes - could Amanda do something with fish instead of crab? And Amanda capitulates! WHY? WHY do they give in when someone else says they want to do something using the same ingredient? So now she's going to make tuna tartare? Rut-roh! for Amanda. Kevin's going to do a chicken skewer with a Romesco sauce and fried potatoes alongside. That sounds good to me!

Tiffany's making something smart for ballgame fare - she's making a high-end version of sausage and peppers - AND she's making her own sausage! Angelo is braising pork (not sure what he's making though), and Ed is doing shrimp and corn poppers. Don't know HOW he does it, as he's running around the TC kitchen like a whirling dervish, but Ed's difficult prep on his poppers actually gets done before the clock runs out.

Back at the house, Amanda realized they didn't have anyone to take orders in the Nationals' kitchen. Angelo steps up when no one else says they'll do it and says he'll take the orders. Lots more confessional talk from Amanda as well. I'm thinking one of those two are going home? And then Kevin is saying he doesn't trust Angelo in taking orders? Why? Angelo would potentially have to trust more that someone is going to plate his food properly when it's called out by him!

At the ballpark kitchen the next day, Angelo realizes he can't cook his dish and take orders at the same time. So Angelo is saying he's not going to take all the orders; he gives guest check order pads to everyone, but Kevin said "We're not going to do that!" and throws it back at him. He said that Angelo never should have taken on the role of the orders. I *do* have to agree with that. Ed said he'd cook Angelo's dish, and both Tiffany and Amanda said they'd help plate and get it up to the pass.

Tom brings the 3 (very large!) Washington Nationals' players into the kitchen with only 25 minutes to finish cooking. Kelly's saying how cute the players are, and Amanda said "All I can think of is 'Tom, get out of the kitchen and take your tree trunks with you!" LOL

Comments by the cheftestants just as the crowd is about to walk up to the concession stands: "Fifty-six seconds!" "It's about to get ugly, boys and girls!" "It got ugly the minute you walked into this place!" :-)

Tiffany's sausage meatballs and peppers and Kelly's crab cakes are the hot favorites. Kevin's chicken skewers are favored by the ball players, but so are Tiffany's sausage meatballs.

Kelly's crab cakes and sweet potato fries and Tiffany's meatball sub both look WONDERFUL! Moonen's comment "Raw fish at a stadium - that takes some (base)balls!" is still funny. Padma finds Kelly's crab cakes a bit salty, and Tom Colicchio said "If the challenge was to get you to drink more beer, it worked!" :-)

Angelo's sweet glazed pork looks good, too, as did Kevin's chicken skewers, and Ed's corn and shrimp fritters - ALL THREE look great! But how do they taste? Ed gets good reviews on his dish, but Kevin's dish isn't getting a lot of orders. Someone said "Because of all of these interesting dishes, why would you come to a ballpark and order chicken?" Hmmm...

Just before going to commercial, Angelo is defending himself at JT. Was it because he's on the bottom? They then show Angelo talking late at night with his Russan fiancée and Angelo saying "When I win the $250K, the first thing I'm going to do is get her over here from Russia and get all the visa stuff figured out."

Padma comes into the Stew Room, and asks to see ALL of them at JT... So Angelo does defend himself in front of everyone. Padma asks how Angelo took over the orders and he explains...sort of. But hey - did Tiffany just throw Angelo under the bus a little bit? And then Kevin did as well. Not sure that'll factor into final judging, however.

Ed's fritters were in the top group, as was Tiffany's meatball dish. Moonen announces that the winner is: Ed's fritters! And HE gets a double win! WHOA! He wins a trip to Australia! He also wins Moonen's new cookbook. :-)

So the remaining four of Angelo, Amanda, Kevin and Kelly. Tom calls out Amanda for grinding her tuna for the tartare the day before. Kevin's called out for the soggy fries. Kelly's called out for her slightly soft crab cakes, but I think she'll stay in, as they seemed to like the flavor of the crab cakes overall. Angelo's pork dish was called out for too much sugar and a LOT of soggy bread to the amount of pork. And they're sent back while judges deliberate. And Kevin's frites on top of the skewer was called a "fatal mistake" by Padma.

OK, who do I think is going home? Amanda or Kevin. But it could be any one of them. Yup - it's Amanda going home! She's the only sous chef that made it that far.

Next week for the last challenge before Final 4 - they're at NASA and Buzz Aldrin will be a special guest!

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  1. If Kelly goes home I'm out. They are making Amanda the true B which I really think she is not.
    This is the most Chaotic episode by far so far.

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    1. re: chris2269

      Well, it looks like her crab cakes were well-favored by the crowd. But now here's a thought - we didn't see the judges asking anyone else for their opinion. So perhaps Kelly's salty crab cakes are going to put her on the bottom with Kevin's poor chicken skewers and Angelo defending himself as I noted in the original post is defending himself against Kevin getting all up in his face before cooking started? But based on all of that, I still think Kevin's poor showing might put him out. I still can't believe that Amanda's tuna tartare won't put her in the bottom though!

      ETA - guess I was right except that Amanda IS in the bottom 4.

      1. re: LindaWhit

        OK Kelly is safe so I'm OK. She is really the only chef I would make a trip to visit thier restaurant. I have eaten at Angello's and was not impressed.

        1. re: chris2269

          Kelly seems to me like a very selfish person, definitely looking out for #1 (herself) almost always. Sure, others are too - but her version seems somewhat insidious and disturbing in a sense. Quietly bullying in a certain way too. Step away from her if she ever "asks" you to do something - like give up your beets, or give up your crab dish idea, because SHE wants it...you will go home for it.

          My personal views, your mileage may vary.

          1. re: huiray

            That's why I carped about it in my original post. I couldn't believe Amanda backed down from using crab. It's quite possible if she hadn't done so, her crab dish wouldn't have sent her home as the tuna tartare did.

            1. re: LindaWhit

              Well someone had to go home, and it still might have been Amanda!

              1. re: Ruth Lafler

                True, but Angelo and Kevin's dishes weren't very well received either. Kevin's soggy fries seemed to get a lot of attention, as did Angelo's soggy bread.

                But I did change my post above slightly from "I'll bet..." to "It's quite possible..." :-)

            2. re: huiray

              Each of them SHOULD be looking out for themselves, if they're not. No one is making anyone give up their ideas for Kelly. I don't begrudge her the guts to suggest they should.

              I think Angelo's quiet suggesting detrimental things to others is similar, yet you're not picking on him.

              Each of them is there to win, not to help the others. And now, especially when they are down to the wire.

              1. re: ChefJune

                I think you can look out for yourself yet be able to help others too when it does not undercut yourself. Season 6's contestants did this frequently. To me, Kelly's 'requests' have more of a touch of sneaky shafting than of 'guts'. We see this differently, I guess.

                As for Angelo - fine, I'll say that he should not have given Amanda that advice. However, she made the first move (ditto Kelly 'made the first move' in making her request), and Angelo responded. I think his advice was misguided, even wrong (a strike against him in terms of his technique) but I don't think it was malicious. I do not subscribe to the school of thought that ascribes evil intent to anything that he says to others by way of advice.

                ETA: Angelo did say something about putting oil on it to stop the oxidation, I think, in one of those 'asides' and that she should have known it. A rewatch is merited to confirm this - in which case I would qualify my comment above about his technique a little.

                1. re: huiray

                  I also recall Angelo saying she should have known to top it with oil to prevent oxidation. That he didn't mention it to her is telling.

                  That being said, you make a good point. Angelo may be giving other contestants bad or incomplete advice, but if they're willing to go to him to ask him his opinion -- and then go ahead and do what they say -- they are at least as responsible for the result they get.

              2. re: huiray

                I wonder why it matter that someone else used crab? More than one person made a sandwich type fair.

                1. re: huiray

                  Amanda signed her own death warrant by trying to do a dish she was unfamiliar with in an unfamiliar setting this late in the competition. I admire the guts, and she clearly has skills, but she should have never backed down from Kelly.

                  Tonight sealed my dislike for Kelly. She seems like she is decent in the kitchen, but she is a complete bitch, and I will relish seeing her go.

                  1. re: TuteTibiImperes

                    I thought it was a bad decision for her to do the tuna tartare, too. If there is no easy time to prep it, don't do it. If you want to do seafood, there are many options. And, if it bothers you that Kelly is pushy, don't back down from her. Don't do it and then complain. I don't like Kelly but she's playing the game to win. She's not TIffany who wants to win because she's proved to be the best. I really like Tiffany.

                2. re: chris2269

                  I don't care for any of the manipulated drama of reality TV, but I can confirm that Restaurant Kelly Liken IS worth visiting.

            3. Wow. I'm kind of surprised Amanda is going home. They seemed to like the flavor, just not the appearance. They seemed to be uninspired by Kevin's dish. I'm fine with her going home, mind you, because I think she was out of her league. Just guessed wrong on this one.

              Overall, a fairly uninteresting episode. I want some "higher end" challenges at this point in the competition.

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              1. re: debbiel

                I do have to agree on the relatively uninteresting episode (although I did like the Quickfire Challenge). It seemed more about the drama than about the cooking, what with Angelo and Kevin going at it.

                1. re: debbiel

                  Tom's blog is up explaining why Amanda's tartare sent her packing:

                  http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/seaso...

                  "When Eric Ripert goes so far as to use the word “offensive” in connection with fish, what more is there to say? As you’ve no doubt noted in the episodes thus far, he is encouraging of the chefs and seems truly to be rooting for them. Amanda’s permitting her tuna to oxidize was hands down the most egregious of the errors made by the chefs in this challenge. People are frightened of eating fish that has spoiled. Even the appearance of spoilage will engender an aversion to a dish, whether the fish has actually begun to turn or not. Anyone eating Amanda’s tuna tartare first had to overcome our reflexive impulse to turn away from the fish because of its off-putting color. And this is an utterly unacceptable obstacle. To be honest, Eric was a bit afraid to eat the dish. He actually said, “it’s dangerous — it could kill me.”

                  That pretty much says it all. AND Chef Ripert's vlog's title and description is " Spitting Out Amanda's Food" - Eric Ripert reveals a moment at the ballpark that didn't make it on-air. "

                  And he seems to think that Angelo conspired to send Amanda home by telling her it was OK to grind the tuna the day before.

                  1. re: LindaWhit

                    I would give someone misinformation if they were making fun of me too.

                    1. re: LaLa

                      Huh? Who was making fun of Angelo?

                      1. re: LindaWhit

                        Amanda - when she was laughing at his praying to his chef deities etc ?

                        1. re: huiray

                          So she's trash-talking him just as Kevin's trash-talked others just as Angelo has trash-talked others just as everyone has trash-talked the others. She did it in the confessional - unless we see that she said something to his face, Angelo would have no idea that she had done so.

                          I think Angelo is just giving misinformation because that's the way he is - he's manipulative, as others have mentioned further upthread.

                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7301...

                          1. re: LindaWhit

                            < "She did it in the confessional - unless we see that she said something to his face, Angelo would have no idea that she had done so." >
                            ------
                            Of course. I think LaLa was making a sort-of droll comment, as someone with 'insider' knowledge, as was I.

                            <Shrug> We disagree a little about Angelo. C'est la vie.

                    2. re: LindaWhit

                      i think she asked angelo HOW to grind it, not WHEN. And, regardless, it is not his responsibility to tell her how to stop a dish from oxidizing when it sits out. everyone who has made a pesto or a guacamole, or a million other VERY common dishes knows something has to be done, and that something is usually oil. To blame her not doing on angelo reveals more about one's dislike for angelo, than any maliciousness on his part. She made an error. at this level of competition, that is enough.

                      1. re: thew

                        Umm....I don't disagree with you. I didn't say it was Angelo's responsibility to tell her how to stop the oxidation. Nor did Ripert or Colicchio. Colicchio said "Amanda’s permitting her tuna to oxidize was hands down the most egregious of the errors made by the chefs in this challenge."

                        Note the key words - "Amanda permitting..."

                        You said "To blame her not doing on angelo reveals more about one's dislike for angelo".....I'm not really sure what that means.

                    3. re: debbiel

                      At this point everyone should know better than to get advice from Angelo. That being said, even I know that grinding that meat the day before was a bad idea.

                      But after watching the reactions at JT, I really did expect Kevin to leave. I suspect he's next.

                    4. yawn.

                      i'm so glad Amanda is *finally* gone, but i thought this episode was a total snore. something was wrong with my DVR recording so i couldn't see most of the first round of JT and a couple of other random clips... and i didn't even care!

                      random observation: that's two consecutive weeks in which one chef won both challenges.

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                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                        Tiffany has two double wins, so actually there three times.

                        1. re: araknd

                          Has that ever happened in a season before?? I don't remember...

                          1. re: becky315

                            The first chef to win a quickfire and the elimination challenge in the same show was Michael Midgley in Season 2. He was an unlikely chef to be the first to achieve this feat.

                            1. re: John E.

                              " He was an unlikely chef to be the first to achieve this feat."
                              :-)
                              I nominate John E. for understatement of the thread.

                      2. Random thoughts:

                        I wonder if this was one of those times where the judges immediately knew who was going home (Amanda, obviously), and the editors had to work to keep us guessing. A kitty-litter gray tuna tartare like that would have been completely unservable at a restaurant. Of course, I wasn't there to taste how serious the mistakes of the other chefs were.

                        You guys notice that Ed talks some really major trash about some of his competitors? The editors have previously made villains out of other contestants for answering presumably prompted questions about their opponents a little too bluntly and by then taking said statement out of context (example: probably M. Voltaggio's comments last season about Kevin Gillespie cooking like he does on his days off) But with Ed, I can't imagine the prompting and imaginative editing that would make for 'he/she is obnoxious, a slob, can't cook, no technique, lucky to still be here.' I dunno - I just think it makes him look bad that he is so happy to publicly eviscerate whoever he perceives to be the weakest chef left in the contest that week.

                        I feel sorta like the other chefs at the judges table shouldn't have called out Angelo's waffling on taking orders. Yeah, I understand he made a verbal commitment and tried to back out of it. But the thing is, ultimately he took one for the team, reluctant or not. He helped them out, not vice versa. Did they really expect him to mention his attempted change of heart in front of the judges in the interest of full disclosure?

                        I don't know the exact time constraints of this elimination challenge, but I wonder if Angelo might have had time to just make steamed buns for his dish. They don't take that long. Though they are a bit labor intensive (at least the way I've made them). Seems from the comments like they would have worked better. At any rate, I had been hoping that Angelo, like him or not, would start busting out some really impressive cooking as the competition came to the home stretch. The last few weeks have been depressing.

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                        1. re: cowboyardee

                          Michael Voltaggio would have made his own sandwich bread. Remembering the episode he made his own bread for ceasar salad croûtons

                          1. re: dach

                            I remember as well. When asked if he was being perhaps too ambitious, his reply: "come on, it's just bread."

                            Or something like that.

                          2. re: cowboyardee

                            < "I feel sorta like the other chefs at the judges table shouldn't have called out Angelo's waffling on taking orders. Yeah, I understand he made a verbal commitment and tried to back out of it. But the thing is, ultimately he took one for the team, reluctant or not. He helped them out, not vice versa. Did they really expect him to mention his attempted change of heart in front of the judges in the interest of full disclosure?" >

                            -------------

                            I agree. Angelo scored points in my book for stepping up the previous night, while the others made no move to do so. When he saw the actual situation the next day, he in effect tried to renegotiate the order-taking situation and Kevin simply started screaming and shouting. (Kevin does this a lot. He is definitely a jerk.) Angelo gives up, Ed steps up to help with Angelo's food and Kelly and Tiffany come on board, kind of, I think. Guess who made no move to help Angelo.

                            Angelo could have phrased his answer better at JT, but I think Tiffany did throw Angelo under the bus even though she helped Angelo earlier. Not cool, woman. Kevin? Of course he piled on - I would have been surprised if he didn't, after what has been shown of his crude and nasty behavior/character the past weeks.

                            1. re: huiray

                              I agree I can not bear to watch Kevin,,,,someone need to pop him in the mouth.

                              1. re: huiray

                                Kevin seems a bit eager to whip out the dagger when someone's back is turned, but Angelo shouldn't have waffled after he volunteered. He tried to make a grand gesture by offering to expedite before he knew what the situation was, and then tried to suddenly change the plan on everyone when he saw it wasn't optimal. If he wasn't willing to do it regardless of the situation, he shouldn't have volunteered.

                              2. re: cowboyardee

                                Re: your steamed buns comment - check out the extended JT video - Tom Colicchio says "We were questioning the soft roll [Angelo's soft roll] and that's why I asked him [Angelo] why. He wanted to make that rice bun - you know, what you typically get with pork buns"...at least that's what I think I'm hearing. So Angelo *did* want to make them, but perhaps he didn't have time?

                                http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/seaso...

                                They also talk about Amanda cutting up and grinding the tuna the day before.

                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                  Every time I read one of the 'what I would do' comments is that I wish that in the down time, instead of Top Chef Masters, Bravo would have a Top Chef Fans-- in which all the armchair chefs participate,

                                  That would be fun.

                                  1. re: Lizard

                                    Participatory Theater. I like it. :-)

                                    1. re: Lizard

                                      "Bravo would have a Top Chef Fans-- in which all the armchair chefs participate."
                                      _______________________________________

                                      That's essentially Food Challenge on Food Network.

                                      1. re: ipsedixit

                                        I don't think you would find Eric Ripert judging that show. After his reaction to the tuna and the chicken, he'd probably be scared to death of what ever the fans prepare.

                                2. Two more Asian dishes for Angelo! It looked like they all did a good job, except for Amanda's oxidized tuna. I thought that while it was well done, Tiffany's dish was pretty safe -- I'm guessing there are a lot of ballparks where you can buy a meatball sandwich (including, I noticed last week, the Oakland Coliseum, which doesn't have nearly the gourmet offerings of some of the newer ballparks).

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                                  1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                    < "Two more Asian dishes for Angelo! " >
                                    ------
                                    <Shrug>. Why not? Notwithstanding previous discussion on this topic, cooking "Asian" IS his style. (Yes, of course it would have been splendid if he did something French, say, and did it well)

                                    None of the others really cooked 'outside' their style, either, or deviated from some form of their normal "American cuisine", from what I could tell.

                                    1. re: huiray

                                      Well it is probably going to work out pretty good for Angelo since they are doing the finale in Singapore.

                                      1. re: LaLa

                                        Yes, in theory it should.
                                        (Psst...that's s spoiler - are you a reader of TWoP too?)

                                        1. re: huiray

                                          It's not a spoiler as it is clearly on bravotv.com.

                                          1. re: huiray

                                            No it was on Bravo....they are advertising it so I don't think that constitutes as a spoiler.Does it?If so I am sorry.

                                            1. re: LaLa

                                              Oh, it is? OK, I just looked and yes it is - it must be a very recent posting, though. S'pore as the finale location was 'known' back in July as revealed on the spoiler thread on TWoP (***SPOILER***: as are the final four...and maybe more...DO NOT look there if you don't want to know)

                                              1. re: huiray

                                                I haven't read it, but how does TWoP know who the final 4 are and "maybe more"? Do they have a super-secret spy?

                                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                                  A poster there happened to observe the taping and posted about it. (Then there are other later posts...which may or may not be foilers instead)

                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                    They're very well connected. Among other things, TWoP is owned by Bravo, so I imagine people talk around the (virtual) water cooler/espresso machine. Also, if Bravo wanted to "leak" something to TWoP that would be good for driving readers to both sites and give TWoP a competitive advantage over other fan sites.

                                                    1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                                      Ahhh, didn't realize Bravo owned TWoP. And yes, you're right on the competitive advantage.

                                                      @huiray: But I'm surprised they allow the leaks from the poster who posted it. Doesn't TWoP use the black bars across a potential spoiler that the read just has to highlight to actually read it?

                                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                                        < "@huiray: But I'm surprised they allow the leaks from the poster who posted it. Doesn't TWoP use the black bars across a potential spoiler that the read just has to highlight to actually read it?" >
                                                        ------
                                                        Yes, that is normally done - although I think the poster has to 'invoke'/format it to use those black bars. I'm not sure "they" edit the posts with consistency to block out such things, not on a SPOILER thread, after all...:-)

                                                        The greater problem with TWoP in my opinion are the nazi moderators and their curious (to me) admonitions as to what and how you can post in terms of decorum. (Did you know that you can't start a post with "Uhh" or "Umm" because it is considered rude by TWoP and you will be deleted and warned?

                                                        1. re: huiray

                                                          Ummmm.....LOL! at your last comment. ;-)

                                                          And I didn't realize the spoiler was in the spoiler thread. That's the one I try to avoid. I've just seen those black bars in other threads about an episode before where someone let slip a little something that was a spoiler.

                                                          1. re: huiray

                                                            TWoP doesn't require spoiler bars in a spoiler thread -- that would be ridiculously redundant! In fact, you'll be admonished for inappropriate use of spoiler tagging!

                                                            I agree the moderators at TWoP are strict and at times unreasonable and arbitrary. However, their policies keep it the only fan boards I'll read because they aren't full of stupid illiterate people gushing indiscriminently.

                                                            1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                                              And TWoP's write-ups of various shows are pretty damn funny. :-)

                                                              1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                TWoP moderators are strict indeed. I post on the Home Shopping forum and we aren't allowed to post about shows that are airing, so if we want to point out, say,the stripper pole that HSN was selling the other night, we have to wait for the show to end. However, on the Morning Joe thread you are allowed to post about Mika going off the deep end while the show is airing. <shrug>

                                                                    1. re: huiray

                                                                      Thanks & LOL

                                                                      They are the internet equivalent of shopping mall security guards.

                                                2. re: LaLa

                                                  thats as silly a comment as "hamburgers would be good, because it is being held is the USA"

                                                  singapore is a pretty international city/country, so people eat outside their own immediate culture. and "asian cuisine is such a broad category as to be fairly meaningless - why should someone from afghanistan prefer food from japan to food from south america?

                                                  1. re: thew

                                                    What I meant....because he cooks more international vs Tiffany that cooks more American leaning.

                                                    1. re: LaLa

                                                      Is cooking "more international" better than cooking "more American leaning"?

                                                      1. re: chicgail

                                                        not for me but the conversation was about the finale being in Sinapore

                                                        1. re: LaLa

                                                          again, so what?

                                                          the judges will be people versed in food. good food. do you think someone from sinagpore cannot understand or appreciate tiffany's food? and less than angelo can appreciate "asian" food?

                                                          makes zero sense to me.

                                                          1. re: thew

                                                            I may not agree with you on matters of baseball, but here you are right on. This line of argument makes absolutely no sense save for to function as some kind of fantasy that the only place capable of change and diversity is the US.
                                                            And come on, maybe they (if I choose to pretend that Singapore isn't one of the most globalised and international places on the planet) will love Tiffany's ethnic cuisine-- provided they don't get all wrapped up in a debate as to how authentic it is.

                                              2. re: Ruth Lafler

                                                BTW, did anyone read the review for Plein Sud (Ed's restaurant) in yesterdays NYT? He got slammed pretty hard. http://events.nytimes.com/2010/08/25/...

                                                1. re: huiray

                                                  Robert Sietsema of The Village Voice slammed Plein Sud equally hard (if not harder) a few weeks ago.
                                                  http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-08-0...
                                                  So hard in fact that I was wondering if Ed had stolen Sietsema's girlfriend too. Now with the times piling on, I guess Plein Sud must really have some problems, or else Ed must REALLY get around.

                                                  1. re: cowboyardee

                                                    > "I was wondering if Ed had stolen Sietsema's girlfriend too." >
                                                    ------
                                                    Heh. HEH.

                                                  2. re: huiray

                                                    Whoa. "Five Guys does better." in reference to the Plein Sud burger.

                                                    And in Sietsema's review, I think he does Ripert and Colicchio a disservice in saying "Food that merely looks great is the objective of the show—since the home audience can't taste anything—and it seems as if a lot of that attitude has rubbed off on Plein Sud."

                                                    Colicchio and Ripert aren't just looking for "food that merely looks good."

                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                      I haven't read Sietsema's review, but I agree with what you said. And this is one of the big problems I have with Gordon Ramsey's Master Chef show. What's the deal with only tasting the three best-looking dishes to determine the winner? I'd rather eat something that looks like crap but tastes good than vice versa.

                                                      1. re: Miss Needle

                                                        Agreed with the Master Chef format of only tasting the top 3 best-looking dishes. But I think their premise is that you eat with your eyes first and that *most* people wouldn't want to eat something that didn't at least look good first.

                                                      2. re: LindaWhit

                                                        Colicchio and his latest restaurant (Colicchio & Sons = C&S) has had mixed reviews, with Sam Sifton's being the only really positive one amongst the usual critics. C&S has been both panned heavily and praised extravagantly at the same time by various diners/posters.
                                                        A sampling:
                                                        http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.co...
                                                        http://nymag.com/restaurants/reviews/...
                                                        http://www.newyorker.com/arts/reviews...
                                                        http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/03...
                                                        http://ny.eater.com/archives/2010/03/... (read the comments too. Heh.)