Parsley - what good is it?
It tastes like nothing to me. Kind of green and grassy if anything.
What is it supposed to add to a dish, given that it seems to be tasteless? at least to me . . .
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I find most lettuces a bit textureless, nutritionless and flavourless, so I use flat-leaf parsley instead.
Two big handfuls of leaves in my daily salad
1 poblano chilli roasted on the burner,
dinner plate's worth of parsley + cilantro,
escarole if I've got any
jerk sauce
olive oil
a cup of finely-chopped stems in every soup (without parsley and onions, I'd probably starve..) + a handul of leaves to finish.
It's verdant, it's fragrant, it's beautiful, and I go through about six bunches a week.
I adore parsley, it's an utter workhorse where cooking and eating are concerned.
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re: willow_leaves
Nice post, willow....and welcome! Your salad sounds really great...must try it out...I like combining buttery soft lettuces, then some hardy dandelion, kale, then some peppery arugula from my garden and dill from my garden for a mix of greens lately...I also love to use flat parsley as my "lettuce." *jerk sauce* on a salad...now there's something different...do you use Walkers Wood? I think it's a bottled type of jerk...thanks!
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re: Val
Thank you!
And no, I just make a batch a few times a week and keep it in the fridge.
It's probably not very authentic (I use block tamarind rather than tomato paste for tartness) and certainly not very smooth - I don't have either a blender or a kitchen processor, but I'm cheap and.. it's, erm, pretty good.
Mmm dandelion greens! If only I could convince the people I live with that bitter is good (they're slowly warming up to chilli peppers, so dum spiro spero) and dandelions aren't strictly for bees and crazy French people.
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re: c oliver
Thank you =) I.. I'm.. it's very hard for me to eat something that tastes like mostly nothing on its own - iceberg lettuce, at least the way it's usually purveyed, tastes like honesty and purity (if you like it) and 'screaming void of nothingness' if you don't.
I find myself in latter group, and lately I've been wondering if I'd eat lovage as a makeshift salad green - since it grows so well.
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Sadly, you're just not using/enjoying the right parsley. First off - the curly stuff is useless for anything but an inedible garnish.
Not only is the Italian flat-leaf type the only way to go, but growing your own is - for me at least - the only way to enjoy it at its best. Fresh, flavorful, even slightly spicy at times. My favorite variety is "Giant of Italy", but you'll never find it for sale in any grocery store. Some farmers markets carry it during the spring & summer months, but the best way to enjoy it is to grow it yourself.
Of course, if you've already decided you hate parsley without wanting to take the time to experiment further, I guess growing it yourself is out of the question.
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re: Breezychow
Sorry, not sure who you're referring to, probably OP but in case you were talking to me, I'll address.
I've grown my own 2 varieties for the last several years. Although it's there at the ready in a few places in my yard+pots, it's still not much of a draw for me. I keep growing it (for one) because every year it springs back up to life from it's seeds I presume, and two, just in case I want some as an ingredient it's there.
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I've made a version of this sauce for our DD. She adores the stuff and it seems to keep well in her frig but then it doesn't have to last long in there, with grilled sourdough, it's *gone in 60 seconds* practically. :-)
Last time I had lunch at Gaucho Grill [3rd Street Mall in Santa Monica] the waitress seemed really nice to me,so I decided to try and pick her brain to see if I could get some help with the very flavorful sauce. I told her that this restaurant was one of our DD's favorites and how she loved the milenese steak and the dipping sauce which I guess is their dipping sauce for the bread also. I managed a little help out of her about how the sauce was made although she wasn't supposed to say I'm sure, but it gave me an idea of how to construct a batch for our girl.
It was truly delicious and I am thankful for her help as only a few of the original inredients would have made it into mine had she not been so helpful. These are helpful as a starting point, do your own editing according to your taste though. Our DD loves a lot of garlic and olive oil. So to cut the oil and add acidity the lemon or vinegar is important, just taste as you go.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/michael-chiarello/grilled-gaucho-steak-with-chimichurri-sauce-recipe/index.html
or this one which is a bit different
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In this entire thread, nobody mentioned how curly leaf parsley kinda smells like gasoline! (at least it does to me -- so does epazote and yet I love it). Still, I find flat parsley quite enjoyable and like someone said higher up, it brings a fresh, vegetal flavour to things. I suppose it has the same quietly enhancing qualities as the holy trinity of carrot, onion and celery, it not strictly necessary, but part of the layering of flavours and sensations.
Parsley is related to coriander... I wonder if coriander haters (it's genetic) also have trouble with parsley.
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re: TheSnowpea
I personally think the curly parsley get's a bad rap. I don't find it tasteless nor smelling of gasoline. It may not be quite as strong in flavor compared to the flat leaf variety but it still taste like parsley. We grew up eating tabbouleh made with curly leaf parsley. I wouldn't think twice of using it if I couldn't find the flat leaf
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re: BH.
Did anyone mention winter pesto? That's one way I love flat leaf parsley. Use it in your recipe instead of basil when that's not in season--great fresh flavor on pasta or swirled into a soup. I finally figured out how to keep a bunch of parsley fresh. I buy a dollar bunch at the Farmers' Market each week. As soon as I get it home I run it under the water with stems facing the faucet. Once it's had a good rinse I shake it off, roll in a paper towel and tuck into a plastic bag. Stays fresh with no slime.
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I agree with you, ZenSojourner. Parsley tastes like nothing to me. I keep putting it in recipes because I figure that the people who created the recipe would not have called for it, if it didn't do something for the dish. But what it is escapes me. And if you leave it out, I don't see much difference in the dish. In things like tabouleh, the parsley seems to be the vehicle for stronger flavors in the dish, but adds little itself.
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I'm with you, ZenSojourner. Tastes like grass to me, and I'm violently allergic to grass so it's not a good association. I still put it in things but never enough to notice a difference; mostly I use it as a garnish, sprinkled over whatever to make it look nice. And, yes, I use the flat-leaf kind. I don't like tabbouleh either, no matter who makes it, so I think that parsley is just one of the very few foods that I genuinely don't like.
My parsley haiku (don't bother counting the syllables, it doesn't scan):
O, parsley
You taste like grass but you're in freaking everything
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I love fresh flat leaf parsley. Rarely buy the other kind so I can't comment on it. And dried parsley, you might as well sprinkle green cardboard flakes on your food except the cardboard has more fiber.
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re: Pincus
I just made charmoula last night for a fish tagine. I used a large bunch of flat-leafed parsley and a medium sized bunch of cilantro, plus garlic, cumin, coriander, paprika, salt, olive oil and lemon juice. It was fantastic.
I recently read a recipe on Jamie Oliver's site that called for fresh parsley. He specifically states that the parsley must be freshly picked from the garden to impart the fullest flavour. Since I'm always buying mine at the store, I wonder how much flavour is missing in my parsley, which seems quite powerfully tasty to me.
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re: 1sweetpea
I guess any vegetable/herb/fruit is going to taste at its best immediately after picking (the reason why frozen peas are usually so much better than fresh). I doubt whether youre missing much with shop-bought, so long as stock turns over reasonably quickly - I usually find the best at the small Asian shops.
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I use a lot of it in hummus and tabbouleh. I cannot imagine steamed new potatoes without it (and butter, of course). It always seems right with boeuf bourguinon. Other than those things I never think of it. I agree about the texture of finely minced curly parsley, sort of gritty. Here in Central Texas it does so poorly in the summer that it is just never around in my garden.
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besides tabboleh, one of my favorite and easy pasta dishes uses a lot of parsley. Saute 1 onion per serving until caramelized, toss with a beaten egg and about 1/2 cup - 1 cup chopped parsley per serving and about 2 tbs of parmesan and stir into hot pasta to cook the egg. Yum!
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I am not a parsely lover either.
I have dried, I have it growing also in my garden, Italian flat leaf.
To me, it's not a flavor I want in things I make.
I don't get what the big deal is about it.
Emeril uses it always and says Hilda uses it.
So, that doesn't make me want to use it just because he and his mom do.I see it being used on perfectly already good looking things on tv, then they go dump parsley on top of it and it now has a whole new flavor, and I didn't say better more improved flavor either.
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Here's a previous thread on this topic: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6091...
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Aside from all the more common uses, I made a pretty decent parsley salad from a Deborah Madison book a couple-few times, and was just thinking about trying a parsley soup recipe from (I think) Simon Hopkinson.
...And another thing that I don't think has been mentioned above: dumplings for chicken soup. Almost makes me long for winter. Almost.
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Well it is the curled I've always seen that seems to have no taste, so maybe I should try the flat.
Or maybe whatever it is that's in Parsley that the rest of you can taste, I just lack the ability to taste. But the stuff I've tasted up to now just doesn't have any taste to speak, to me.
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re: ZenSojourner
My husband said the same thing - he didn't see why anyone would use something with no flavor. Curly or Italian, they both have an earthy green tangy flavor to me, which I like very much. We can both eat from the same sprig, and he can't taste what I taste in it.
DH has found though, that he can detect some flavor in the parsley since he quit smoking a couple years ago. I guess it takes a while for the taste buds to recharge.
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I generally agree that parsley is not much good for anything other than decoration, and that's why I always sub Italian parsley for parsley.
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re: Perilagu Khan
italian parsley = flat leaved parsley, is the same herb as curled, but I agree that for some reason, the flavor of the flat is infinitely better than the curled (maybe hybridization of the curled has made it so) - I sent my daughter out for parsley the other day and the curled she brought back mistakenly lacked the very nice flavor of the flat leaved, as well as having a dryer quality.
Good fresh (flat-leaved) parsley is an essential herb for me, both as garnish and ingredient for italian and other mediterranean foods, grain salads, etc..I wish I could keep a patch going in my garden, but so far no luck (its biennial and doesnt seem to seed in too readily for me.
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re: jen kalb
I find a big difference, too, between what I get in even a great market and what I grow myself - the home-grown has a very pronounced taste, almost a little anise-like, and the texture is crisper. I keep it going, even in Boston, right up until it snows,and then bring it in and stick it in a pot to keep me going in winter - it's like a tonic against the dark and cold! (and freeze the stems to add to soup). Absolutely essential, yes!
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What GOOD is it? Here's some nutritional info' in case it's of any interest...parsley
is a powerhouse of nutrients and an anticancer food:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tn...I've been adding it to salads, smoothies, everything!
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chimichurri! http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Chimichurri-Sauce-107159
italian salsa verde http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...
"garden" gazpacho
i always have italian parsley in the fridge, for the things i've mentioned, and to garnish eggs, chicken, salads...so many things.
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re: Cachetes
right, pasta! it always brightens up the dish. the vegetal "greenness" gives a nice contrast to the pasta's starch, and the oil or other dressing.
i like to puree it with other herbs, garlic, and anchovies, capers or whatever, plus a little EVOO, and stir into soups or plain pasta. the herb paste is also nice on a sandwich, for blander meats like turkey.
i also make a parsley herb-spice paste to blend into meat that i use for kabobs. essential!!!! http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/727239
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Wonderful taste say in tabbouleh, where it forms the main flavouring.
Also, a classic sauce for fish or ham.
Excellent "fresh" garnish for plain cooked potatoes.
Finely chopped with garlic and lemon zest, you've got the Italian gremolata (great as a topping for fish, IMO).
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re: Harters
Right. Flat leaf parsley is a major herb in Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian, and Lebanese cuisine. I am not sure how much it is used in other Near Eastern or Mediterranean cuisines, such as other nearby Arabic, or Israeli, or Greek cuisine...maybe someone else could confirm if parsley is used prolifically in any cuisines near to the Levant with which I am less familiar. Also, it is my impression that Italians use a lot of parsley. But in Levantine cuisine you have tabbouleh of course, but also parsley in kababs, chopped meat preparations, and also used as a garnish cum seasoning in many, many dishes. In that region, parsley is a seasoning that is just as important as lemon juice.
I can taste parsley.
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re: luckyfatima
"Italian" or flat leaf parsley is the only kind I can stand...in fact, I like it a lot. The curly stuff is nice on a place as a garnish, but not to eat. It has no taste.
I use it in making my Paula Wolfert Middle-Eastern Breakfast Burrito - flat bread folded around a mix of feta, chopped flat-leaf parsley, cukes, tomatoes, red peppers, green onions and anything else you want to toss into the mix. Olive oil is poured over and mixed in and a scoop is delicious in flat bread. We have it for breakfast several times a week during the good veg season.
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re: luckyfatima
Armenian (Anatolian) cuisine has a number of dishes that rely on it heavily. My favorite is Sou Boereg, which is basically like a lasagna that's baked until crispy on top, with a filling consisting of a large amount of parsley, cheese (I use muenster), and eggs. The cooked parsley flavor in this amazing.
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re: ChristinaMason
christina, here is nsenada's recipe from a 2006 thread: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/353544
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re: nsenada
nsenada, that's a really interesting combination. does armenian cuisine use lots of parsley? also, instead of muenster (which i assume is a substitute), what would be the "authentic" cheese in the dish?
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hey, look at this! nsenada, it CITES your chowhound thread!""Boeregs
Boeregs are a popular snack and fast food, often served as appetizer. These are savory pies made with phyllo pastry and stuffed with cheese ("banirov boereg", from Armenian: "banir" for cheese) or spinach (similar to spanakopita in Greek cuisine). "Sou boereg" ("su boeregi", or "water burek", in Turkish cuisine) is a lasagna-style dish with sheets of phyllo pastry briefly boiled in a large pan before being spread with fillings. ["Sou boereg" recipe on [http://www.chowhound.com/topics/353544 ChowHound] ] "Misov boereg" is a bread roll (not phyllo pastry) stuffed with ground meat (similar to Russian pirozhki). "Tepsi boereg".Fact|date=August 2008"" http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/...
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re: alkapal
On the parsley, yes, my grandma had tons of it growing, and it seemed to be in everything, mixed with bulghur, in yoghurt and chicken stock soups, losh kebab, etc. There is some variation in Armenian cuisine, and what I'm familiar with comes out of Anatolia, or Eastern Turkey, and seemed to be very meat and dairy centric. Hummus was not really eaten, and looked upon as "Syrian," though we called pita bread "Syrian bread," non-pejoratively. I'd really like to research where the cuisine came from originally, some of the dishes are no doubt ancient.
On the cheese front, I suspect it was muenster because my grandmother got a tremendous deal from the supermarket on the 2-ton block. I remember finding out the name of the "authentic" cheese at one point, but haven't delved into it too far - the dish is such a pain in the $&^ to make that if it wasn't as good, I'd be pretty ticked off.
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Are you using fresh or dried parsley? You've just described dried parsley perfectly!
Fresh, though, that's a whole different story - I find it herby, kind of peppery. I don't know that I care for it on its own, but as part of the whole, it lends a fresh, green (in a good way!) flavor. I love a handful, chopped finely, in meatballs, myself.
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