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edible n Aug 22, 2010 06:33 AM

Has anyone been in the last couple of weeks? I understand that they are closing for renovations for a short period of time. I made a reservation for shortly after they re-open and was told that their menu was now a 4 course $125 menu. Is this a replacement of the 3-course and 5-course and the Gourmand, or simply in place of the 3 and 5 course menus?

Do you know if they do wine pairings with the 4 course? I noticed that they have pulled their menu from the website, so am a little curious what the new thought process is there. Thanks,

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    gutsofsteel RE: edible n Aug 22, 2010 06:44 AM

    They haven't repopened yet so nobody has been there since the change...

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      RGR RE: gutsofsteel Aug 22, 2010 08:23 AM

      They're still open. Last service before closing will be dinner next Saturday, August 28th. They will reopen on Tuesday, September 7th.


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      doubledoc RE: edible n Aug 22, 2010 08:03 AM

      I also heard that they will be moving to a $50 3-Course lunch menu.

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        kathryn RE: edible n Aug 22, 2010 09:07 AM

        I would assume that the new 4 course dinner menu is only after they re-open and I can't imagine they'd get rid of the Gourmand. Can you call them back for more details? Sounds like they may still be working out the details and they don't want to publicize until everything is finalized?

        A friend went to lunch recently and was told (in person) they were eliminating the 2 course $28 prix fixe lunch after the renovations, in favor of of a 3 course $50 prix fixe menu.

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          ErikaLee RE: kathryn Aug 25, 2010 02:54 PM

          I have a reservation for this Saturday night and just called. They confirmed that this Saturday will be the last night they are offering the "old" structure (including the 3- and 5- course menus), and that the 4-course menu kicks in when they reopen.

        2. hcbk0702 RE: edible n Aug 22, 2010 09:58 AM

          From their OpenTable page, http://www.opentable.com/eleven-madis...
          "Eleven Madison Park offers two menus for lunch: 3 courses for $56 and an 8 course tasting menu for $95. Two menus are offered during dinner: a 4 course prix fixe for $125 and an 8 course tasting menu for $175."

          Interesting. The huge increases in menu prices across the board and the reduced number of seats in the dining room probably indicate that EMP is aiming for a Michelin 3 star rating. It no longer has a "value" edge over the other NYT 4 stars, so I hope the food quality rises as well.

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            nonibear RE: hcbk0702 Sep 4, 2010 08:58 PM

            I just got a call today from them today to reconfirm my Tuesday night reservation. She said it was a tasting menu of $125.00 per person and to think about any food preferences. I probably should've asked how many courses

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              noob RE: nonibear Sep 7, 2010 12:36 PM

              Apparently the 4 course menu will be a "pick one ingredient from each column" tasting menu: http://elevenmadisonpark.com/PDFS/sam...

              From the website: Our menu format is intended to offer an experience in which our guests can enjoy the inherent surprise of a tasting menu, while still maintaining some control. Dishes are listed solely by their principal ingredients, and guests are invited to make their selections, share any ingredient dislikes, and allow us to design their meal from there.

              I have a dinner reservation there on Friday night with my new fiancee and her mother, first time I'll be seeing the future mother-in-law since the engagement (gulp). Now I'm a little worried, not only by the price increase (big psychological difference for me between 95 and 125) but by the mix and match -- seems a little gimmicky. It wasn't broke, I don't know why they're fixing it. OTOH, I have had 4 or 5 meals there including the gourmand and never been disappointed in the slightest, so I am fairly confident that we will be blown away by the food and charmed by the mix and match -- if it weren't such an important dinner I would just relax and be thrilled that I was getting to try the new menu in the first week.

              Very curious to hear early reports before Friday...

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                Miss Needle RE: noob Sep 7, 2010 01:29 PM

                Is it a pick one ingredient from each column or pick a column? Kind of a bummer that there's no 11-course menu.

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                  noob RE: Miss Needle Sep 7, 2010 01:34 PM

                  Oh, duh. You're right, it must be pick a column -- makes much more sense than the other way, and is also less gimmicky. Sorry for the misinformation, I'm a little nervous these days...

                  Although I was starting to get intrigued by the horizontal possibilities...

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                    kathryn RE: Miss Needle Sep 7, 2010 01:37 PM

                    I'm interpreting it as pick one from each row since the 3rd row is all proteins and the 4th is all possible dessert ingredients.

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                      ellenost RE: kathryn Sep 7, 2010 01:56 PM

                      I am reading the menu the same as kathryn: one item from each row. It will be interesting to see if one orders the "foie gras" on two consecutive visits (within a month) as to whether the preparation will vary during a short period of time. I didn't see "duck" or "souffle" listed; I hope they make it onto the menu.

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                Miss Needle RE: hcbk0702 Sep 7, 2010 03:29 PM

                Do you know what happened to the 8 course tasting menu? It's not an option on the website.

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                KLD1967 RE: edible n Sep 7, 2010 12:39 PM

                I'm debating whether to make a dinner reservation for my trip the last week of September. I'm on a waiting list for Per Se and will probably not get in. Should I try EMP? I really want to hear from someone who has been since it reopened. In a food quandary!

                Per Se
                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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                  kathryn RE: KLD1967 Sep 7, 2010 12:59 PM

                  EMP reopened today on Tuesday, September 7th, they haven't even served their first dinner yet (it's only 4pm!).

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                  DutchOenophile RE: edible n Sep 7, 2010 03:57 PM

                  In the format, you pick one main item from each row. Its not the entire row or entire column; just pick one item from each row.

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                    kathryn RE: edible n Sep 7, 2010 07:22 PM

                    The New York Times has some more details on what they've changed and why:

                    There's no more Gourmand or tasting menus, and they have also eliminated the host stand, bar menu and 34 seats but added an alcove where you can see the kitchen.

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