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Any update on the sushi situation in SF? Also any solid kaseiki available?

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Colari Aug 19, 2010 01:33 PM

I've searched this forum about sushi and found out that being a newyorker it was a bad idea to go there for sushi. The thing is I noticed those posts were all at least a couple years old. Is it still true? I'm looking looking for a similar standard to Yasuda, 15east, etc for those who know NYC.

Is there a place also with a very solid Kaseiki dinner?

  1. nsxtasy Aug 22, 2010 07:54 AM

    >> I've searched this forum about sushi and found out that being a newyorker it was a bad idea to go there for sushi. The thing is I noticed those posts were all at least a couple years old.

    Huh? When I search this forum for the word sushi, I see lots of topics that were updated within the past year. Granted, the default search settings sort topics so that those whose title is "Sushi" (no other words) appear first, and none of those are from the past year. But when you scroll down to additional results, you can find...

    Sushi recommendations? (6 replies, last updated by ceekskat June 7, 2010) - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/700523

    Sushi in the City (3 replies, last updated by jimtak August 27, 2009) - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/648001

    Sushi in San Francisco? (10 replies, last updated by vincentlo August 11, 2010) - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/726726

    Best value sushi in the city? (10 replies, last updated by CarrieWas218 May 30, 2010) - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/710772

    Sushi Restaurant suggestions in SF? (7 replies, last updated by CarrieWas218 May 4, 2010) - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/705588

    Visiting this weekend. Seafood and Sushi restaurants? (3 replies, last updated by bbulkow January 13, 2010) - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/680409

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    1. K K Aug 19, 2010 01:51 PM

      Our two kaiseki restaurants are outside of SF, at Wakuriya in San Mateo which has an open kitchen and small California-esque dining decor and ambiance. The other in Menlo Park at Kaygetsu. Wakuriya is a little bit cheaper and better value, and closer to SF. But I am willing to be they are nowhere near the standard of say, Sugiyama in NY.

      If you find yourself in town, Kappo Goumi should be an interesting experience. Not kaiseki, but very fine touches. Not a sushi place, but not a tempura/teriyaki kind of joint.

      SF's top nigiri sushi is certainly no Yasuda in terms of breadth and depth. Sure we have Ino Sushi, Sakae (in Burlingame) and Sushi Ran (Sausalito) that are all very excellent in their own right, but they are still quite a few leagues behind. But don't let that discourage you from trying them to get your own perspective.

      But you might want to visit SF's Benkyodo Co (over 100 years old) in Japantown during business hours, at least to sample their hand made Japanese American style sweets.

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      Kaygetsu Restaurant
      325 Sharon Park Dr Ste A2, Menlo Park, CA 94025

      Ino Sushi
      22 Peace Plz # 510, San Francisco, CA

      Benkyodo
      1747 Buchanan St, San Francisco, CA

      Sushi Ran
      107 Caledonia St., Sausalito, CA 94965

      Wakuriya
      115 De Anza Blvd, San Mateo, CA

      9 Replies
      1. re: K K
        vincentlo Aug 20, 2010 02:12 PM

        Hey KK, I'm just curious why you're not mentioning Sebo, or the koryori place Kappa which offers pseudo-kaiseki. Don't like them? =)

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        Sebo
        517 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

        1. re: vincentlo
          CarrieWas218 Aug 20, 2010 04:59 PM

          I'll beat the dead horse by mentioning Sushi Aka Tombo on Buchanan - still superlative example which out-shines Sushi Ino for me. Still love Kiss as well, but much pricier.

          Kappa is "the" place for Kaiseki although Kappo Goumi could put together a handful of dishes which are complementary and excellent, but not traditional Kaiseki.

          Also, Nombe has a partly-traditional series of dishes that could be considered a Kaiseki dinner which occasionally shows up on their menu. I took my BFF for her birthday dinner and was blown away.

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          Ino Restaurant
          25 Miller Ave, Mill Valley, CA 94941

          Nombe
          2491 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94110

          Sushi Aka Tombo
          1737 Buchanan St, San Francisco, CA 94115

          1. re: CarrieWas218
            vincentlo Aug 20, 2010 05:02 PM

            Well Sushi Aka Tombo is very very good; their omakase sushi has a lot of seafood that will cater to adventurous eaters. But I would like to know why you said it "outshines Sushi Ino." Just wondering in what ways.

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            Ino Restaurant
            25 Miller Ave, Mill Valley, CA 94941

            Sushi Aka Tombo
            1737 Buchanan St, San Francisco, CA 94115

            1. re: vincentlo
              CarrieWas218 Aug 20, 2010 07:36 PM

              For me it is a number of things; fresh wasabi versus Ino's fake wasabi, the quality of the fish and the fact that at Sushi Aka Tombo, you can order a nice Omakase for around $30 and get a huge selection, and -- lastly -- I really don't like how I am treated at Ino as a single diner/white woman.

              I get very distinct misogynist impressions when I am at Sushi Ino; the chef has been downright rude to me when I am dining alone, but if I am there with a gentleman, only the gentleman is addressed in a pleasant fashion. It is though he can't wait to just serve me and get me out of his establishment while at Sushi Aka Tombo, I am greeted warmly and respectfully.

              That goes a long way in my book.

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              Ino Restaurant
              25 Miller Ave, Mill Valley, CA 94941

              Sushi Aka Tombo
              1737 Buchanan St, San Francisco, CA 94115

              1. re: CarrieWas218
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                artemis Aug 20, 2010 08:12 PM

                Yikes, that makes me not want to go there at all.

                1. re: artemis
                  CarrieWas218 Aug 20, 2010 11:30 PM

                  I have heard this from other women as well -- I'll be adding a sushi report from Takara (quite good!) in a day or so and the friend I was dining with mentioned it too.

          2. re: vincentlo
            daveena Aug 20, 2010 05:43 PM

            Sebo's the only SF place I can weigh in on - the sushi is several notches below Yasuda and 15 East. The cooked dishes looked interesting and creative.

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            Sebo
            517 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

            1. re: daveena
              Windy Aug 20, 2010 09:07 PM

              The cooked dishes are alright, but sushi is the reason to go to Sebo.

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              Sebo
              517 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

              1. re: Windy
                vincentlo Aug 21, 2010 04:18 AM

                The quality of the cooked dishes at Sebo, assuming you're getting omakase at the sushi bar, varies greatly depending on the chef serving you that night. Danny Dunham, who is no longer there, was considered by some to be the weakest chef of the bunch in terms of cooked dishes. I had some stunning cooked dishes the last time I was there. And the fact that they are offering the exclusive izakaya menu on Sunday nights tells you they are proud of their cooked dishes.

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                Sebo
                517 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

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