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mikefromgeorgia Aug 17, 2010 03:56 AM

Does anyone else have trouble finding tacos at UK Mexican restaurants?? Quite often I have to make my own at home compliments of Old El Paso. My wife and I both love Mexican food and have eaten in Mexican restaurants from Cyprus to Tijuana. The only places without tacos were in the UK!! The UK chain Chiquitos does not have them nor does many others we have tried. Imagine McDonald's without burgers. I have been told there was once a Taco Bell in London that closed. I love the tacos at the Del Tacos in the U.S. One thing really puzzles me. Why do so many people in the UK seem to think all Mexican food is or should be hot and spicy?? Most traditional Mexican restaurants in the U.S. provide free and unlimited homemade tortilla chips and salsa to start your meal. Never have we found this in the UK. Normally, the salsa is the hottest and spiciest thing. Also there seems to be a tendency to confuse Mexican with Spanish or Cuban food. Maybe the fact that they are all Spanish speaking countries?? However, the best known Mexican food was derived from the Indians who were native to Mexico before the Spanish first came there.

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    chief1284 Jan 25, 2011 02:24 PM

    The best Mexican food I've had in London by a country mile was from a food stall on Lower Marsh called Buen Provecho. Have alook on facebook (sigh - I hate facebook):

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/gr...

    I had a taste of an excellent adobo beef dish, and some great carnitas type pork dish. It's all served with rice, black beans and a help yourself to a variety of salsas and guacamole. I'm sure this doesn't sound too exciting, but it's damn good stuff.

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      zuriga1 Jan 25, 2011 09:34 PM

      You're not alone. Lots of us here have eaten the food from that stall and loved it. I think someone mentioned it above.. or maybe several someones.

      I've been begging a great Mexican chef I know to move to London. Somehow he prefers staying in the States.

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        mikefromgeorgia Sep 11, 2012 07:26 AM

        I don't blame him for staying in the States. I sure wish that I had.

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          mikefromgeorgia Sep 11, 2012 07:53 AM

          There is a place in Bradford called "Cocinas" that calls itself a Mexican restaurant. No tacos of any kind. They never change/alter their menu. Never any new menu items or specials. In a word: boring. Old El Paso is far more exciting and is a much better bet.

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            Harters Sep 22, 2012 05:37 AM

            There's a later TripAdvisor post than yours in January, Mike, suggesting there's been a change of ownership and name. Google tells me its now called "El Mexicano Cocina". Still no tacos, though.

            Whilst I might make the 60 minute drive for Prashad or Mumtaz, I don't think I'll bother with this one. New name or no new name.

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              Theresa Sep 22, 2012 03:22 PM

              Maybe your luck is in, as you said on another thread that you are thinking of coming to Liverpool for a few days. Lucha Libre in Liverpool does tacos: http://www.lucha-libre.co.uk/

              I've never enjoyed Mexican food very much - probably because I've only ever had access to badly cooked Tex-Mex stuff - and I'm no Mexican food expert, but It was ok ... but no better than that. Some interesting looking dishes. We had the "taco platter" for two - some of the flavours were good, and they are trying harder than most "Mexican" places in the UK, but it wasn't great. Lovely staff though.

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      ambra Jan 20, 2011 11:03 AM

      I still think the Tacos at 'Taqueria' near Notting Hill are very good. Large selection and quite tasty. They certainly satisfied my SoCal Tastebuds.

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        Harters Aug 17, 2010 08:06 AM

        "Why do so many people in the UK seem to think all Mexican food is or should be hot and spicy??"

        I imagine it's because our experience will be from the restaurants here that sell it.

        I suspect few of them are run by people of Mexican birth (with there only being some 5K Mexican born folk living here the odds would not be high). 5000 Mexicans? Less than half the size of the small community I live in - hardly likely to be impacting on our cuisine.

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          mikefromgeorgia Aug 18, 2010 08:27 AM

          It may not be traditional Mexican food but it is close enough for me!! :)

           
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          pj26 Aug 17, 2010 06:30 AM

          Echoing the posts above, you will also find most ''Mexican' restaurants in the UK are more TexMex anyway rather than Mexican. So even if they did serve tacos you wouldn't be experiencing a proper Mexican meal (there are a few exceptions).

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            zuriga1 Aug 17, 2010 08:13 AM

            We passed a place on Saturday (I think it was near Dishoom and maybe on Upper St. Martin's Lane) that had a sign saying it served 'gourmet Mexican food.' I was a bit intrigued by that and wonder if it really has the kind of non Tex-Mex food I enjoyed in Arizona many times. I'll have to try and find out the name and location one of these days.

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              deansa Aug 17, 2010 08:59 AM

              Cantina Laredo. Currently in a PR bun fight with half London's food bloggers and winner of apalling reviews from most of the mainstream food reviewers. Has anyone on this site been to confirm/deny the reports?

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                Harters Aug 17, 2010 09:28 AM

                Living at the other end of the country, I almost never encounter the London blogs - but read some about this place (cos I like appalling reviews). Rather surprised me that bloggers all seem to get free meals. I sense a new hobby coming on - eating out normally costs us a bleeding fortune.

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                  zuriga1 Aug 17, 2010 11:29 AM

                  Thanks.. yes, that name rings a bell. I might just try it one day, but then again I have a sensitive stomach.

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                    zuriga1 Aug 17, 2010 11:32 AM

                    Looked at the menu... certainly more gourmetish Mexican is offered.. but I wonder how it tastes. It's a bit pricey! I notice they have a branch near where I stayed long ago in Scottsdale... land of chain restaurants. :-)

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                      brokentelephone Jan 22, 2011 02:47 AM

                      I have been to Cantina Laredo, and can confirm that the food is really really awful. I went and ordered a full meal a few months ago so cannot recall exactly what I ate, but I remember the cheese pueblanos being inedible and the burrito the same.

                      It does, however, have a few good points; they bring around unlimited nacho chips (the finest in London IMO) with salsa, and their margaritas are pretty good and strong. Id definitely recommend the place for a drink, but avoid dinner like the plague (unless they've gotten better).

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                    r.vacapinta Aug 20, 2010 04:32 AM

                    There's a new place on Villiers (near Charing Cross) called Lupita which just opened up.

                    Unfortunately, we got there as they were closing so we didn't have a chance to actually try anything - though we did chat briefly with the owners who were very apologetic. Still, the menu is taco-focused and they say they are from the same people who run "El Farolito" in Mexico City - presumably the well-known Taqueria in the Condesa area. If so, this should be interesting.

                    I'll probably go back and I thought I would also mention it for others here interested in the development of Mexican food in London

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                      relizabeth Aug 20, 2010 05:14 AM

                      R.Vacapinta,

                      This sounds very interesting. Can't wait to try it.

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                        brokentelephone Jan 24, 2011 11:54 PM

                        I went on the weekend; was very disappointing. I really didn't enjoy it at all, and the chairs are very uncomfortable! Shared a lot of dishes and all of them lacked flavour. Had lots of different tacos, a sandwich, nachos, etc., and just wasn't that keen on any of it really. Perhaps an off day?

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                      Theresa Aug 17, 2010 05:51 AM

                      There is another thread on this board about Mexican food in the UK, so it might be worth you using the search engine.

                      But you won't find much Mexican food here, as we don't have a history of Mexican people settling in this country, which is the way food cultures tend to spread.

                      I agree with the reply you got on your other post - you won't find the same thing here as in the States - we are a different country, and on a different continent!

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                        mikefromgeorgia Aug 17, 2010 07:10 AM

                        I agree with you but if you were living in the U.S. and went to a place calling itself an "English-style pub" wouldn't you tend to compare it against the real things? Admittedly much of what most people outside of Mexico call Mexican food is probably largely Tex-Mex. I know where I grew up in Georgia their idea of an Italian restaurant is Pizza Hut!! ;)

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                          PhilD Aug 17, 2010 02:15 PM

                          "I agree with you but if you were living in the U.S. and went to a place calling itself an "English-style pub" wouldn't you tend to compare it against the real things?"

                          I probably would, but in my experience they are universally bad and are nothing like real English pubs. The same goes for Australian pubs in London, or Irish bars in Paris, or French bistros in Sydney. The marketeers try and package these concepts and export them to other countries but they lose everything that makes them special and the result is a pastiche.

                          So I wouldn't expect Mexican food (and the the "hole in the wall" places) to migrate to London with any success, nor do I expect to find US style burgers, or good tapas bars (not tapas restaurants). A lot of these places are products of something that is deeply cultural and thus they really don't export well. OK you can move the fixtures and fittings, train the staff and buy the correct ingredients, but the culture is deeply ingrained in the staff and customers of these places in their places or origin, that it can't be exported.

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                        r.vacapinta Aug 17, 2010 05:42 AM

                        Try Wahaca in Covent Garden. I really like their selection of tacos.

                        Tortilla chips and salsa are in no way traditional. You'll have trouble finding a restaurant in Mexico that serves them. They're more of a Tex-Mex thing. Unlimited-anything is a peculiarly American custom.

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                          mikefromgeorgia Aug 17, 2010 06:51 AM

                          Thanks I will give them a try the next time I am in London. The traditional restaurants I referred to are actually owned and run by Mexican families in the U.S. Maybe they have adapted to the tastes of the areas. Still they do offer many traditional dishes you won't find at a Taco Bell.

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                            bulbfish Jan 20, 2011 10:49 AM

                            Sorry, we thought Wachaca was overpriced and not very good. I've resorted to having my brother send ingredients from L.A. and cooking dishes myself. And I make a wicked pico de gallo!

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