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My bf and I will be spending two nights in the MSP soon, getting a much needed little breather from living in the middle of nowhere, Iowa (we're NYC / SF transplants...times are tough). Therefore, we will spend this vacation eating, and eating, and eating, and drinking.
Specifically, I'm looking for recommendations on (starred items are priorities):
- Best morning coffee *
- Best breakfast joints
- Cheap ethnic foods that we don't get in IA (Hmong, Somali, Viet, etc.)
- IF there is good sushi in MPS, good sushi
- Jewish food?
- Anywhere that pours local wine (Midwestern)
- Authentic fish fry? Fried smelt fry, specifically? My bf is way into smelt. He'd just about melt (ha!) if I took him to a smelt fry *
- Beer nerd beer bars
- Best beer / liquor store *
- Great cocktail bars (like old school cocktails, not 'tinis)
- Late night / street food
And of course anything you want to add... We're not, by any means, rich, though we are the kinds of people who spend the money we have on eating. So tips on happy hours, specials, free things, are much appreciated.
Also, any recs on getting around town late night if we've been drinking without paying for cabs? Probably staying downtown St. Paul...

Thanks!!!

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  1. - Best morning coffee * -

    Depending on what the asterisk implies, I'd go with Kopplins.

    - Best breakfast joints -

    Hell's Kitchen is my favorite.

    - Cheap ethnic foods that we don't get in IA (Hmong, Somali, Viet, etc.) -

    Quang Vietnamese. Cheap and delicious. Pho is good, but so are most of the dishes.

    - IF there is good sushi in MPS, good sushi -

    Nami is good. I wouldn't make sushi a primary point of emphasis. It is NOT cheap, though the happy hour is affordable.

    - Jewish food?

    You'll be hurting for restaurants. I'd feel terrible if you somehow wound up at Mort's. Any Byerly's, though, should have the fixins.

    - Authentic fish fry? Fried smelt fry, specifically? My bf is way into smelt. He'd just about melt (ha!) if I took him to a smelt fry *

    Will you be here on a Friday? Red Stag has a great fish fry menu, which includes smelt fries.

    - Beer nerd beer bars

    Happy Gnome and Muddy Pig. Only food I'd recommend from either are the wings at the Pig, though.

    - Best beer / liquor store *

    Surdyk's for the sheer volume of options. Zipps for a quirkier selection.

    - Great cocktail bars (like old school cocktails, not 'tinis)

    Bradstreet Crafthouse.

    - Late night / street food

    One of the Los Ocampo locations is open until 4a. That's about as well as you can expect to eat much later than midnight.

    Be sure to visit Midtown Global Market... There is a nice cheese shop, an outstanding bakery (salty tart), lots of great Mexican and free parking.

    Other cheap/ethnic places to try

    Jasmine Deli (great Banh Mi)
    Bangkok Thai Deli (very authentic, if somewhat erratic Thai
    Blue Door Pub (search the board for Jucy Lucy for more details)
    Lemongrass Thai (the most ambitious Thai in the cities, and a sausage dish worth the drive)

    As for transportation, I'm afraid I can't be helpful in that regard.

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    Midtown Global Market
    920 E Lake St, Minneapolis, MN 55407

    Hell's Kitchen
    80 South 9th Street, Minneapolis, MN 55402

    Jasmine Deli
    2532 Nicollet Ave, Minneapolis, MN 55404

    Muddy Pig
    162 Dale St N, Saint Paul, MN 55102

    Happy Gnome
    498 Selby Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55102

    The Blue Door Pub
    1811 Selby Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55104

    Byerly's
    3777 Park Center Blvd A, St Louis Park, MN

    Nami
    251 1st Ave N Ste 100, Minneapolis, MN 55401

    1. Here are a few more ideas:

      Coffee:
      J and S Bean Factory, St. Paul

      Beer store:
      Four Firkins, St. Louis Park. This is a bit out of the way, but I was quite impressed when I went for the first time last weekend.
      Also, I have not been, but there is a new beer store in St. Paul called the Ale Jail.

      Liquor store:
      I second the Surdyk's recommendation. (They also have a decent beer selection, but not on the same level as Four Firkins.)

      Cockails:
      I second Bradstreet Crafthouse (they do have some happy hour specials depending on when you are coming). Also, I love the cocktails at La Belle Vie in Minneapolis and Strip Club Meat and Fish in St. Paul.

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      La Belle Vie
      510 Groveland Avenue, Minneapolis, MN 55405

      The Strip Club
      378 Maria Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55106

      1. Nerd beer bar & ethnic eats combo!: Ngon Bistro!

        All local beers, usually something on cask too, which is nice. Great Vietnamese / French / American fusion food with local, sustainable, organic, etc. meats and produce. Not exactly cheap though. They do have a happy hour - $5 small plates, so that's something, 3-6pm Mon-Fri and 11am-5pm on Sat & Sun (although it says "drink specials only on the weekend, dunno what that means, exactly). Although I will say, I've never been for happy hour, we usually go for lunch.

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        1. re: turtlebella

          I would add that Ngon also pours a few local wines.

          -g

        2. Beer nerd bar:
          I would recommend Buster's on 28th. Not quite as extensive a tap list as the Gnome or the Pig, but plenty of very good beers to sample. And I would argue that this is the best pub food you'll find in the cities.

          Old school cocktails:
          Check out Haute Dish. It's gotten lots of pub lately for the food, but I got a big kick out of their cocktail list, as well. Same basic philosophy as the food menu - updated versions of what your grandpa used to drink.

          1. If you're staying in DT St. Paul, you're going to have a heckuva time getting around cheaply at night. There are city buses and the Light Rail, but they might be confusing to out of towners, as well as "sketchy", depending on destination.

            Luckily, DT St. P has a couple things going for it.

            Meritage is a fancy-pants French joint, but they have an affordable Brunch on the weekends (most dishes are $10 or so), and a special 3 course offering on Sundays for $26. I had a 5 course tasting menu there, worth every penny.

            Senor Wong is a Mexican / Asian fusion. Sounds weird, but it works. Mock duck tacos were really good, especially if you like spicy. Had a couple other apps, and 2 of the 3 were good. Their wontons are a really nice value, they are huge and tasty.

            There is also Heartland. Heartland is by no means cheap, but it is "foodie", and worth the visit. All local / organically sourced, menu changes daily, James Beard nominee, etc., etc. Their new location has a full bar, with a top local bartender (from what I've read, he was formerly at Town Talk Diner).

            There are also two sushi places in DTStP, Fuji-Ya and Origami. I frequent Fuji-Ya and haven't had a bad experience yet.

            A short bus ride / good walk from DTStP is W.A. Frost on Selby. Lovely patio, excellent bar, good food at reasonable (and not so) prices. A few blocks over is Grand Avenue which has a plethora of shops and eateries. You could just walk it and pop your head in a few places.

            Whatever you'd spend on a cab (I assume a good $20 for downtown to downtown, if not more), you could stay within walking distance of where you're staying and eat at two of the best restaurants in the Twin Cities, Meritage and Heartland Restaurant. Might even save a few bucks overall.

            You should also keep an eye on daily deal sites for our area, there are usually top restaurant offerings once a week for 50% off.

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            Meritage
            410 Saint Peter St, Saint Paul, MN 55102

            Senor Wong
            111 East Kellogg Blvd., Saint Paul, MN 55101

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            1. re: semanticantics

              Origami is in Mpls. The other sushi place in St Paul is Sakura. Both are good, neither is great, from my experience.

              Also, for cheap eats, don't forget Tanpopo in St Paul.

              1. re: Math

                Whoops, sorry.

            2. What fun!

              Here's a bit of my $.02....if you have a chance to walk around the St. Paul farmer's market (on Sat and Sun am), it's well worth it.

              Breakfast: Mickey's Diner in downtown. It's an icon and nearby to museums and a walkable downtown....now, if you go to Mickey's, you'll be right around the corner from Candyland, an awesome candy store that sells the most out of this world popcorn.

              If you have a chance, pop in to Cossetta's, an Italian "cafeteria" and shop.

              If you are driving from Iowa, why not throw a cooler in your car and fill it with treasures from MSP...I could see you load up the cooler with stuff from Cossetta's (I happen to love their pizza dough), and on Grand Avenue in St P, there are lots of great shops, but particularly The Golden Fig, which sells all sorts of locally made treats.

              If you will be in town during the State Fair, by all means go!!!!

              If you are looking for a bit of an adventure, less than 30 minutes from St P is Stillwater, with a cool vineyard that is worth checking out (I'd buy lunch at Cosetta's, then drive to Stillwater, eat it on the St. Croix and check out the vineyard on the way back into the cities.

              Deli - there is a place in St Paul called Cecil's, which is not so bad when I get a hankering for east coast foods.

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              Mickey's Diner
              686 Lexington Pkwy S, Saint Paul, MN 55116

              1. I'd also recommend Travail Kitchen & Amusements. They are in Robbinsdale, which is about 25 minutes from DT St. Paul, but if you have a car, worth the trip. They are doing smart food with creative plating and affordable prices. The portions are a bit smaller, but it's like a build-your-own tasting menu. Look for the Travail Update thread for some pics.

                1. Adding on... Some repeats probably, some not mentioned. Taking into account hat you are probably staying in St. Paul. But can't fault you for venturing to Minneapolis for some places already recommended.

                  Coffee: Hard to top Kopplin's, but I would also add Amore Cafe on Grand Avenue.

                  Breakfast: Bon Vie on Selby. Day by Day on W. 7th. Keys on Raymond.

                  Cheap Ethnic: Babani at 11th and St. Peter (Kurdish) Cheng Heng on University (Cambodian, but no alcohol served)

                  Places pouring local wine: Nothing comes to mind. There are places that sell it by the bottle, but I'm hard pressed to think of any place pouring it. The best Midwestern wine comes from Michigan, and I'm not sure we get much here.

                  Fish Fry: For smelt, ditto Red Stag (in Minneapolis). Nearby is Bulldog NE, which could meet the beer nerd requirement. Nearby is Surdyk's for picking up beer, wine, and liquor (and their deli is great for picnic fare).

                  Beer nerd bars: Ditto Buster's (in Minneapolis). In St. Paul, Bulldog Lowertown, Happy Gnome on Selby, Groveland Tap on St. Clair.

                  Beer/Liquor: Surdyk's or Zipp's, both in Minneapolis. Both easy to find with free parking.

                  Cocktail Bars: St. Paul Hotel bar. W. A. Frost.

                  Things to add: Punch Woodfire Pizza (Highland Park location). Izzy's Ice Cream on Marshall. Blue Door Pub on Selby for Happy Hour ($2 taps, mostly beer nerd beers).

                  Getting around without cabs or drinking and drivng: If you are staying in downtown St. Paul, you have plenty of walking options (but you may need to compromise some things for the sake of convenience). Buses run fairly late, but you'll likely have more than one transfer depending on where you are.

                  And there's this thread on street food...
                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7209...

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                  1. re: Brad Ballinger

                    Do you have any specific dishes to recommend at Babani and Cheng Heng? I've never had either Kurdish nor Cambodian cuisine so I'd really appreciate some help!

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                    Cheng Heng Restaurant
                    448 University Ave W, Saint Paul, MN 55103

                    Babani's
                    St. Paul, MN, St Paul, MN

                    1. re: air

                      Don't miss the Dowjic soup at Babani's. And the Kurdish lemonade.

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                      Babani's
                      St. Paul, MN, St Paul, MN

                  2. Going to pile on for Ale Jail because they allow (encourage!) people to buy single bottle sof every beer in their inventory -- and they have quite an inventory.

                    1. As far as getting around is concerned, if you could stay in DT Minneapolis instead you could have access to the niceride rentabike system which would at least let you cover the Downtown, Northeast, Uptown and UofM parts of Minneapolis pretty cheaply by bike.

                      http://www.niceridemn.org/

                      St. Paul has its charms as well but it is a bit more isolated.

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                      1. re: dalewest

                        I would go so far as to recommend staying in DT Minneapolis vs. St. Paul. There's good stuff in St. Paul, but a lot of it (coffee, burger at Blue Door, any of the ethnic spots on University Ave.) are good daytime visits.

                        The nightlife in St. Paul (e.g. Muddy Pig) is still a cab ride away from where your hotel will be, whereas some of your best options in Minneapolis are right downtown. Your specialty and wine stores are all in Minneapolis or the western suburbs.

                        If you were just looking for a great meal or two, you would be fine, but for the all-inclusive experience without exorbitant cab fares, you're better off setting up shop in Minneapolis.

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                        Muddy Pig
                        162 Dale St N, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                      2. - Best morning coffee *: Kopplin's absolutely

                        - Best breakfast joints: Definitely not Hell's Kitchen (the name is apropos)! The Twin Cities has a conspicuous shortage of good breakfast places. You're on your own.

                        - cheap ethnic foods that we don't get in IA (Hmong, Somali, Viet, etc.): Thai may not be the most exotic, but Bangkok Thai Deli on University in St. Paul is unbeatable. Ngon is also good, and as someone already said, has its own nerd beer bar. Also, stop by Midtown Global Market and eat at La Sirena Gorda: wonderful ceviche and great octopus tacos. Then, walk 50 feet to the Salty Tart (a bakery--not exotic, but delicious) and buy one of everything.

                        - good sushi: With a New York/San Francisco pedigree, avoid our sushi like the plague.

                        - Jewish food? Mort's Deli in Golden Valley is okay. If you want kosher, there's Fishman's. But really, neither is worth your time unless you're desperate for a deli.

                        - Fish fry? Fried smelt fry, specifically? Another vote for the Red Stag (which also makes some good cocktails, although the lighting above the bar is nauseating). Also, try Sea Salt for all sorts of fried seafood and a nice outdoor locale.

                        - Beer nerd beer bars: Happy Gnome. Many local/regional selections.

                        - Best beer / liquor store *: Surdyk's

                        - Great cocktail bars (like old school cocktails, not 'tinis): Bradstreet Crafthouse and the bar at La Belle Vie. I prefer the ambiance at La Belle Vie; at times too many obnoxious folks at the Bradstreet. However, not everyone shares this opinion. Some people think La Belle Vie is stuffy and boring, and that's a fair point. Haute Dish is also good.

                        - Late night / street food: In the non-late-night street food category, you must try Chef Shack. There's been some debate on this board about whether Chef Shack really has street food cred because they make "fancy" dishes with locally sourced ingredients when possible. Who cares? Their food is amazing. Catch them at the Mill City Farmer's Market on Saturday mornings. Even for Iowans, that's a nice market to check out.

                        Also, do yourself two favors and avoid the State Fair and Heartland. As a transplant from NYC/Chicago to Minnesota four years ago, I don't understand Minnesotans' hysterical love of these places. The State Fair food is depressingly average. And given its universal acclaim and the zealotry of its fans, Heartland may be the most overrated restaurant in the city.

                        Hope this helps! Have a great trip!

                        1. How is it that no one has mentioned Al's Breakfast? In my chow-family's opinion, it is the best breakfast in the TCs, and there is a big gap before you get to 2nd place. It is a unique experience (tiny, like 12 seats, in a converted alley), and the food is greasy spoon gourmet. If that seems like a contradiction, all the more reason to check out Al's.

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                          Al's Breakfast
                          413 14th Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414

                          1. I'll only comment on what I know, given a stay in DT SP. I apologize in advance if I'm repeating previous recs (which I certainly will).

                            - Best breakfast joints -

                            Bon Vie and Day by Day will be the closest options. Some people bag on Mickeys, but I think they do a great job and might well be in walking distance from your hotel. Al's Breakfast in Dinkytown (sort of in between the downtowns) is a fun choice, but can be an awfully long wait due to its tiny capacity. Hell's Kitchen in DT Minneapolis is good and is the only one of the bunch to take reservations.

                            - Cheap ethnic foods that we don't get in IA (Hmong, Somali, Viet, etc.) -

                            For the most part, I'll defer to the others on this. Midtown Global Market gives a good selection of ethnic food, as does the stretch of University Ave between the downtowns. Second the rec for Quang.

                            - Authentic fish fry? Fried smelt fry, specifically? My bf is way into smelt. He'd just about melt (ha!) if I took him to a smelt fry *

                            I really like the Friday night fish fry at Red Stag.

                            - Beer nerd beer bars

                            A few miles west of downtown St. Paul you'll find the Happy Gnome and the Muddy Pig. Both have great beer selections and they are located a few blocks apart.

                            - Best beer / liquor store *

                            Four Firkins is king for beer, Surdyks for wine.

                            - Late night / street food

                            Mickeys is 24/7. 112 in DT Minneapolis serves food late. Downtown can get a little congested on weekend evenings, but you'll pretty much stay out of it at 112.

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                            Midtown Global Market
                            920 E Lake St, Minneapolis, MN 55407

                            Hell's Kitchen
                            80 South 9th Street, Minneapolis, MN 55402

                            Al's Breakfast
                            413 14th Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414

                            Muddy Pig
                            162 Dale St N, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                            Happy Gnome
                            498 Selby Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                            Bon Vie
                            518 Selby Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                            The Four Firkins
                            8009 Minnetonka Blvd, Minneapolis, MN

                            1. If I were staying in downtown St. Paul and I wanted to drink-and-not-drive in the evening, here's what I'd do:

                              Ngon Bistro!!! It's on the #16 bus line, has great food, and a lovely beer list.

                              Or if you want dirt-cheap, excellent, authentic Vietnamese food with no alcohol, try Saigon (on the same bus line). You'd just have to drink before and after your meal.

                              Me, I would probably have a pre- or post-dinner cocktail (or both!) at a downtown establishment. I like the tequila at Barrio; The Bulldog has a good beer list; Senor Wong's looks fun; and I've always wanted to try a wine flight at Bin. I'll bet the cocktails at Meritage and St. Paul Hotel are pretty nice, too (though likely to be pricy).

                              Other useful bus routes for key food locations:
                              #63 to Grand Avenue (Punch Pizza and Brasa are my favorites there).
                              #21 to Uptown/Mpls, via Selby Ave (Cheeky Monkey, Moscow on the Hill) and Lake Street (Midtown Global Market!)

                              Careful: Check schedules and plan your trip - buses here are pretty infrequent, especially at night.
                              http://www.metrotransit.org/

                              If you're in town on a Thursday, the Chef Shack food truck is usually at Mears Park at lunchtime. If they have watermelon gazpacho, get it - plus a bag of spiced mini doughnuts. Other food carts to look for include 128 Cafe (Tues & Wed?), Fork in the Road (Mon, Wed, Fri), and Magic Bus (? haven't seen it lately). Check their twitter pages from this thread:
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7209...

                              And DEFINITELY go to the St. Paul Farmer's Market on Saturday or Sunday. Surrounding restaurants are very nice, too. I especially recommend Tanpopo for a inexpensive-yet-elegant Japanese food and a good (small) selection of sake, wine, and beer.

                              Anne

                              P.S. Skip the local wine. Trust me on this. Our local beer, on the other hand, is EXCELLENT! Go overboard on the local beer.

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                              Meritage
                              410 Saint Peter St, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                              Senor Wong
                              111 East Kellogg Blvd., Saint Paul, MN 55101

                              Chef Shack
                              No formal address, Minneapolis, MN

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                              1. re: AnneInMpls

                                "P.S. Skip the local wine. Trust me on this."

                                I'm glad someone else said it.

                                1. re: AnneInMpls

                                  I might take the bus to Ngon, but I'd probably take a cab back. Not sure I'd want to wait for the bus there at night after a nice relaxing dinner. Even though you're trying to avoid cabs, Ngon is close enough that the fare shouldn't be too much, I would think.

                                  I second the Farmers Market and Tanpopo ideas. But think about Tanpopo for dinner, not lunch after the market. I think they are not doing lunch these days.

                                2. Late to this post, but thought I'd throw in Fasika in St. Paul in the Midway. Tasty Ethiopian food, reasonably priced. (At least I think so.) The veggie sampler is the best!

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                                  Fasika
                                  147 Broadway, Somerville, MA 02145

                                  1. Ethnic food

                                    Malaysian
                                    Peninsula Malaysian Cuisine
                                    2608 Nicollet Ave. S
                                    Minneaplis, MN

                                    Vietnamese

                                    Trieu Chau Restaurant
                                    500 University Avenue West
                                    St Paul, MN 55103-1937

                                    Trieu Chau is a very good cheap eat place in St. Paul area. The portion is large too. There is bus stop right outside the restaurant.

                                    Peninsula is on the small portion size not necessary cheap compared with other ethnic restaurants around it. If you travel to Minneapolis side of town Quang Restaurant is good too. It's on the same street as Peninsula.

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                                    Trieu Chau Restaurant
                                    500 University Ave W, Saint Paul, MN 55103

                                    Peninsula Malaysian Cuisine
                                    2608 Nicollet Ave, Minneapolis, MN 55408

                                    1. Gonna be in the cities again next week and happy to find some new places to consider - the Kurdish and Cambodian places sound interesting.

                                      And I hope this isn't too late to chime in for beer spots...
                                      I do agree with Muddy Pig and Happy Gnome, but I will also suggest Blue Nile. I was pretty blown away when I stopped by there for a few pints, and very thankful it is a short walk from the light rail! It truly feels like stumbling across a hidden gem having such a high quality beer bar in a seemingly questionable area. Though the Ethiopian fare is passable, you can quickly tell this place takes beer very seriously. The selection rotates constantly since they only have 12 taps, and to attest to that, you can see multitudes of matching tap handles hanging on the ceiling. The draft selection is a good balance between local brews and unusual/harder to find craft and international drafts. In other words, probably 3 different Surly drafts along with several others from Minnesota, some US craft, and last time I checked it was Lion Stout from Sri Lanka.

                                      Beers are always poured with the appropriate glass, and that's all because of the meticulous bar manager, Al. He is the reason why this bar has such a carefully chosen draft selection and encyclopedic would be an understatement to describe the guy's beer knowledge. He's always encouraging people to try something new and very enthusiastic about craft beer. I just love how I can now say that I've seen a keg of La Folie get floated at an Ethiopian restaurant. PS, they do 2 for 1 beers during happy hour and reverse happy hour.

                                      The tap list stays updated on their site:
                                      http://www.bluenilempls.com/bar-b.html

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                                      Muddy Pig
                                      162 Dale St N, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                                      Happy Gnome
                                      498 Selby Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55102

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                                      1. re: air

                                        Very glad to know about this beer selection. I did not know Blue Nile was focused on this.

                                        Thanks, air.

                                      2. In case it's not too late, or for future reference, I just learned of a new way to drink without driving in St. Paul. The Bar Flyr bus goes between a handful of bars, with "charter pickups" available for groups of 6 or more. What a great idea! Here's hoping that the list of bars expands soon. (And even if it doesn't, other great places are near several of the stops.)

                                        http://barflyr.com/

                                        1. I did not read the entire thread but I would urge you to splurge and go to Meritage. Great drinks so it can scratch your itch in that dept. and the food is outstanding. Not crazy expensive either. I would also skip the local wine. I have not found much redeeming in that regard. Solo Vino is a nice wine shop near DT St. paul that has some good items to try. I also like Babani.

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                                          Meritage
                                          410 Saint Peter St, Saint Paul, MN 55102

                                          Babani's
                                          St. Paul, MN, St Paul, MN

                                          1. We were in MSP recently and were blown away by two resturants: Bar La Grassa which has the most amazing pastas we ever eaten in small portions with prices to match, and Punch Pizza. The original one in St. Paul was the best although we didn't need the table service and higher prices. The one outside downtown Minneapolis came in second with it's good energy and last but not least was the new one in St. Paul with the terrific ice cream place across the street. Pizzas were the best we've had and the chopped salad was terrific. Two pizzas and chopped salad, less than $20. I wish we had one or more in NC. We miss them both and we've only been home a week.

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                                            Punch Pizza
                                            3226 W Lake St, Minneapolis, MN 55416

                                            Bar La Grassa
                                            800 N Washington Ave, Minneapolis, MN 55401