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jujuthomas Aug 15, 2010 07:12 PM

I thought all their pilots were great, and really hope to see Herb somewhere on tv! I would so watch his show, I love mexican food, and would love to make healthy versions!

as an aside - did you see the pilots for Next Iron Chef? yipee! :)

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    mojoeater Aug 15, 2010 07:14 PM

    This is the first time that I liked all the finalists' final performances. They all did great and I could see any of them doing a show. I do think Aarti had a bit of an edge simply because Indian is not represented on Food Network.

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    1. re: mojoeater
      GraydonCarter Aug 15, 2010 08:31 PM

      I think she had an edge because all of her food tasted good. It is nice to know that she can cook and isn't just a pretty face. I think she'll grow into the TV Personality role.

      1. re: GraydonCarter
        jmckee Aug 16, 2010 09:24 AM

        I thought (as did my wife and son) that she really nailed the pilot -- more carefree and fun. And the idea of blending Indian flavors with "pizza" was inspired.

        Really, all three were much stronger than any of last year's finalists, I thought.

    2. elfcook Aug 15, 2010 07:25 PM

      watched tonight with my kids - all 3 chose Tom as the show they'd most like to watch, followed by Herb. I thought they did great, but that Aarti was pretty much the winner from about halfway through the season. I agree that her Indian food gave her an edge. I don't watch much on FN, other than this & Chopped from time to time, and Aarti's is not a show that will have me tuning in any more.

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        debbiel Aug 15, 2010 07:28 PM

        I thought Aarti and Herb did well. Tom was engaging, but I just didn't have a sense of what his show would be about or how it would be anything new.

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          smartie Aug 15, 2010 07:35 PM

          I wanted it to be any of the 3 except Aarti. Oh well.

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          1. re: smartie
            chris2269 Aug 15, 2010 07:44 PM

            Was it because your names rhyme? Sorry couldn't resist

            1. re: chris2269
              smartie Aug 15, 2010 08:32 PM

              lol. No because she was the most irritating. And I love Indian food, just wouldn't want to watch her.

            2. re: smartie
              HabaneroJane Aug 16, 2010 08:09 AM

              me too! Tom or Herb would have made me happy. Aarti just annoys me. They lost one viewer over here...

            3. chris2269 Aug 15, 2010 07:42 PM

              I'm glad she won. I liked Tom but to much like Guy's Big Bite or whatever it was.

              1. iL Divo Aug 15, 2010 07:45 PM


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                1. re: iL Divo
                  Obessed Aug 16, 2010 01:44 PM

                  Also - Big Daddy's.

                  1. re: iL Divo
                    iL Divo Aug 23, 2010 10:03 AM

                    my duh comment was simply about they like aarti from the get go, it wasn't a surprise to me when they mentioned her name

                  2. goodhealthgourmet Aug 15, 2010 08:33 PM

                    hardly a surprising outcome. i *loved* Aarti earlier in the season, but she started to irritate me toward the end with all her self-doubt and confidence issues, and she just developed a general deer-in-headlights air of cluelessness that i found rather annoying. but her pilot was great (actually they all were), and i'm sure she'll settle into a comfort zone in front of the camera now...but i REALLY hope they don't use the name Aarti Party for her show.

                    i though Herb was terrific. i'd love to see him get a show anyway, a la Adam Gertler.

                    oh, and yes, i did see the promo for the Next Iron Chef! i immediately had a fantasy about seeing some of the better past Top Chef contestants show up on it :)

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                    1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                      chowser Aug 16, 2010 09:48 AM

                      It's not even Aarti Party but Aarti Paarti! I did like her pilot and thought she was funny. I thought they all did well, actually. Herb's concept was different from anything out there. I wonder if it'll get picked up.

                      1. re: chowser
                        goodhealthgourmet Aug 16, 2010 12:30 PM

                        "Herb's concept was different from anything out there. I wonder if it'll get picked up."
                        i hope so!

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                      Philly Ray Aug 15, 2010 09:17 PM

                      "I love mexican food, and would love to make healthy versions! "

                      Puerto Rican/Cuban food is a bit different that Mexican.

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                      1. re: Philly Ray
                        jujuthomas Aug 16, 2010 03:20 AM

                        you're right. my only excuse is it was late... a duh moment for me. :)

                      2. Joanie Aug 16, 2010 04:24 AM

                        I have to say, I kind of thought Tom would win just by everyone's reaction, esp. the audience. Did anyone notice that Aarti seemed to get the least reaction from them, and the guys definitely seemed to enjoy Herb and Tom more. While I agree that Tom's schtick was kind of hard to make out, he just seemed more fun. Herb was pretty good but I still wasn't on board with him.

                        I also thought that they showed us a different pilot of hers. When she did what I thought was the final cut, she didn't call her show Aarti Party and I thought, good she got rid of that. But it was right there in the beginning of the screening along with something else that was different, but I can't remember exactly what right now.

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                        1. re: Joanie
                          The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 04:35 AM

                          I think they would mix and match segments from all of the various takes to make a complete pilot. I read somewhere that they do three takes of every show on FN. One of the whole scene, one that is super close up of the host's hands and of the food. I can't remember what the third is. Medium shot, I guess? Anyway, they would take cuts from all of those to make a single show.


                          1. re: Joanie
                            roxlet Aug 16, 2010 05:08 AM

                            The audience reaction was undoubtedly cut together indiscriminately from all three pilots and inserted where the editors thought it would fit. A bit of misdirection was at work here, I think. And yes, no show you see is from a single shoot or take; everything is edited together to make a seamless whole (20 years in the TV biz talking here...).

                            1. re: roxlet
                              The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 05:19 AM

                              Oh, sneaky. It didn't occur to me that they would place audience shots wherever they pleased, but, of course, it makes sense.


                              1. re: roxlet
                                debbiel Aug 16, 2010 06:59 AM

                                I think there was definitely misdirection. The difference was drastic enough that it had me assuming that Aarti had won (as in, there's no way the audience liked her that much less; they must be trying to throw us). I also think, even if Tom and Herb had much better audience reaction, that would not guarantee the show. Playing to a live audience is different than how you come across on screen. There are lots of considerations beyond audience response for whose show and total product would be most successful.

                              2. re: Joanie
                                goodhealthgourmet Aug 16, 2010 07:57 AM

                                of course the editing was designed to throw us all off, but there's more to it than that. the judges & producers obviously have the final say, and they're going to choose the one they think is best for the network. based on her performance in a couple of the challenges, Aarti could have easily been gone several weeks ago...they kept her around because she was their 'chosen one.' i think this was the most predictable season yet.

                                1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                                  debbiel Aug 16, 2010 08:14 AM

                                  Of course, there were also weeks where either Tom or Herb could have easily been sent home.

                              3. The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 04:36 AM

                                So disappointing. I mean, she doesn't appear to even be doing a show about cooking Indian food, but dumbed down Indian-esque food. I can make Indian-esque food on my own, thank you.

                                EDIT: Also, I thought it was hilarious that, in her final confessional, she said something along the lines of "I didn't think I was mature enough to do something like this." I wanted to shout at the camera, "You aren't!" Seriously, even when the three of them were sitting in the green room watching their three pilots, with Aarti it was just me, me, me. She is so self-absorbed.

                                Someone on Television Without Pity noticed about halfway through the season that she was wearing the same green blouse in all of her confessionals. That, the way they were fawning all over her food, and the fact that her only "negative" was her (phony) lack of confidence were dead giveaways all along that she was going to win. Still, I thought maybe they were going to pull a rabbit out of the hat and surprise us.

                                Oh, and then there was that thing where they apparently leaked the winner early on: http://foodnetworkhumor.com/2010/06/s...

                                Bah! Why do I watch?


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                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                  ChefJune Aug 16, 2010 06:42 AM

                                  <So disappointing. I mean, she doesn't appear to even be doing a show about cooking Indian food, but dumbed down Indian-esque food. I can make Indian-esque food on my own, thank you.>

                                  ROTFL! Imho, TVFN has become food-esque, rather than in any real way instructional, so Indian-esque would fit in just fine. :(

                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                    chowser Aug 16, 2010 09:52 AM

                                    It would have to be Indian-esque because this is Food Network and real Indian food prep would scare the Sandra Lee crowd it has become. Can you imagine her talking about toasting coriander and all the spices it takes to cook real indian food?

                                    I did notice they kept moving her flower yesterday. Just leave it off!

                                    1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                      LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 10:59 AM

                                      That foodnetworkhumor.com link is funny - especially since it's happened before! The jamokes at TFN really don't have their act together, do they?

                                      UPDATE #1: One hour after our original post, the Food Network realized their mistake and removed Aarti from their list of chefs.

                                      UPDATE #2: 90 minutes after our original post, the names of ALL of the Next Food Network Stars were added to their list of chefs.


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                                      vinhotinto75 Aug 16, 2010 06:01 AM

                                      I just caught the finale on slingbox and must confess that this was 100% predictable based on the cookie-cutter mentality and lack of vision that runs the Food Network. I understand that they must change their lineup to keep things fresh, however they have replaced reputable and creative chefs like Mario Batali, Emeril, Wolfgang Puck, and many others with dumbed-down shows where everybody can make anything in less than 30 minutes because you are so busy running around giving your kids meaningless structure.

                                      I thought all three were very lackluster, but sadly they probably are stuck with the mindset that it "will appeal to making Indian food easy." Simply pathetic! Too bad Aarti comes across as a flake and phony and the fact that she has been "living on the dole" in Los Angeles is a bit troublesome. Food Network Humor has priceless takes on her blog which is truly appalling.

                                      And yes, evidently the braintrust (or lack of brains) over at the FN made an error earlier by "accidentally" adding her to the roster before the comepetition was over. Imagine that as they are salivating on Aarti's line of spices at Kohl's or Big Lots!

                                      I'm so glad that I know what chutney is or that I know how to make pizza. That is really complex stuff! And was it possible for her not to mention her dear-old "mum."

                                      And to think there used to be shows where we never heard about people's kids and family members and the food and technique was paramount...

                                      1. Withnail42 Aug 16, 2010 07:08 AM

                                        This season reminded me of the season Aaron Mcargo won. The out come was pretty clear all along. It was like Fn wasn't even trying to make it a surprise.

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                                        1. re: Withnail42
                                          DiningDiva Aug 16, 2010 08:18 AM

                                          And if you notice Adam Gertler the 3rd place finisher that season is FAR more visible on the network than Aaron. I wonder if Tom or Herb will enjoy a similar fate, I for one hope they do :-)

                                        2. HabaneroJane Aug 16, 2010 08:07 AM

                                          Yuck. Aarti Parti. I can't believe they kept that name. She and it makes me cringe. Was totally rooting for Tom. Based on the audience reaction, which I am sure was also heavily edited, could swear Tom was the winner. Yes, her food looked great, but she grates on my nerves. I think she could turn the male audience off as well. Tom appealed to women and men. More men, I guess, but I'm a chick and totally dug Tom. Oh well! Best of luck to Aarti and her Paarti. Grrrrr

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                                          1. re: HabaneroJane
                                            jujuthomas Aug 16, 2010 08:11 AM

                                            blech! they really did keep the name! I just checked FTV's site to see.

                                            1. re: HabaneroJane
                                              Janet from Richmond Aug 16, 2010 08:17 AM

                                              :::::::doning teflon suit:::::::::::: I like Aarti and the name of her show. IMO she is clearly the best cook and as a chubby curly haired girl myself, I found her endearing. I didn't find Tom or Herb unappealing, but I think it's clear the right person won. And I admit I love her accent....but I am fond of accents in general.

                                              I can see Tom doing something with the Food Network, much like Adam Gertler has.

                                              1. re: Janet from Richmond
                                                The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 08:24 AM

                                                Quick, everyone fling spoonfuls of chutney at Janet! :).

                                                The biggest thing that disappoints me about Aarti is that she's not going to do real Indian cooking, but has instead embraced this idea of non-threateningly teaching us how to incorporate Indian flavors into our everyday cooking. I understand Indian food is complex, and that's why a show on how to cook it for real would appeal to me.

                                                I could set aside my issues with her personality if she were going to teach us the real thing. But, she's not. (I am not bothered by her chubbyness, her curly hair, or her accent. Those are all non-factors to me. I did find the flower in her hair a little too cutesy, but, it's a minor thing in the scheme of life.)

                                                I agree with you, though, that we haven't seen the last of Tom or perhaps even Herb.


                                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                  Withnail42 Aug 16, 2010 08:44 AM

                                                  Agree. I don't want yet another watered down cooking show. I'd have been interesting in the real deal. Spreading chutney on a nan does not do it for me.

                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                    LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 11:04 AM

                                                    "I understand Indian food is complex, and that's why a show on how to cook it for real would appeal to me. "
                                                    But you know by now you will never ever ever see a show like that on TFN.

                                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                                      The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 11:09 AM

                                                      Yeah, I should be over it by now. :).


                                                      1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                        LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 11:14 AM

                                                        LOL! But those of us who knew "the way it was" still pine for real cooking shows. Ah, well - there's PBS.

                                                        Speaking of cooking shows, I did get a chance to view The Cooking Channel shows a bit yesterday afternoon. Nigella Feasts (fair episode) and a few others. Not bad. A damn sight better than TFN, that's for sure - at least what I saw!

                                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                                          debbiel Aug 16, 2010 11:24 AM

                                                          Linda, have you seen How to Cook Like an Iron Chef with Michael Symon? I just saw it on the program guide, but haven't watched it yet. It seems that might have potential.

                                                          I remember running home from school when I was in grade school so I could watch Julia Child's show on PBS. When I was in 4th grade, I made her chocolate mousse for my brother's French club. I knew it would be time consuming and difficult but I felt I could do it because I believed in her. (Of course, I completely messed up the first attempt).

                                                          1. re: debbiel
                                                            BubblyOne Aug 16, 2010 11:30 AM

                                                            Sorry to jump in, but I saw the first episode and it was pretty good-enough for me to look forward to the next one.

                                                            1. re: debbiel
                                                              The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 11:31 AM

                                                              Aw, that's so sweet, re: Julia's choc mousse. Now, that's the kind of personal story I would be interested in hearing from the TNFNS contestants. A story that is directly relevant to food.

                                                              I've seen Symon's show. I don't love it as much as I thought it would, but I do like him. Maybe I'm distracted by the set.


                                                              1. re: debbiel
                                                                LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 11:42 AM

                                                                That was one of the ones I watched yesterday afternoon - LAMB was the "secret ingredient". The minute he said that, I was sold. :-) Yes, it was pretty good. Made tzatziki sauce to go with one dish; skordalia to go with another, and fava bean/feta salad to go with the third. It was a nice mixture of potentially "new foods" that, once he showed how to make them, wouldn't scare off a relatively inexperienced cook.

                                                                The other show I watched has been mentioned on the Cooking Channel thread - "Chuck's Day Off". I wasn't as crazy about the recipes in this episode, but looking at other shows, I think that might would also be fine to watch.

                                                        2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                          roxlet Aug 16, 2010 06:57 PM

                                                          But what on FN is NOT watered down? Nothing is really authentic, IMO, and that's the problem with the network. I don't give a flying fig about the "chef's" life story being incorporated into the show; I'm interested in learning something I don't know.

                                                        3. re: Janet from Richmond
                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 08:25 AM

                                                          P.S. They seem to be doing some kind of "fan favorites" voting on the FN site right now. The winner gets to do six webisodes...


                                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                            jujuthomas Aug 16, 2010 09:19 AM

                                                            ooh. i'm heading over there now to vote!

                                                      2. DiningDiva Aug 16, 2010 08:17 AM

                                                        I'm feeling the pain with all of you this morning. I watched the finale with my 91 y.o. mother who was appalled by the outcome even tho' she called it. First words out of her mouth were "well, that's one show I won't be watching". At 91, she knew. She was rooting for Tom and it was a toss up for me between Herb and Tom, I liked both of them.

                                                        1. jmckee Aug 16, 2010 09:29 AM

                                                          I am SOOOOOO glad Herb didn't win. I never saw the "star quality", and frankly the remark about his mommy making him sugary and overamped was really irritating, as was the whole "keep your figger" shtick.

                                                          Aarti is a strong cook -- and the cries of "watered down Indian" on this board ignore the fact that for a lot of American's, this is a cuisine they don't understand and to which they have little exposure. My wife, who has an adventurous palate (she's married to ME after all) didn't have Indian food until last year, at age 46, when she began working in a department of fellow health-care staff who love the stuff.

                                                          Indeed, Aarti is doing for Indian food exactly what Julia Child did for French cooking in the early "French Chef" days -- taking the fear and "bugaboo" out of the idea. It's exactly the right approach.

                                                          I wouldn't be surprised to see Tom show up on another network or on Food Network anyway -- a fun pilot, engaging personality, and the show was very enjoyable.

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                                                          1. re: jmckee
                                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 09:34 AM

                                                            I also thought Herb's "sugared up" comment was bizarre. Didn't care much for Tom's latchkey kid comment either, but, frankly, I don't want to hear about anybody's childhood, unless it's specifically relevant to the food, and I don't want hear to another word, ever again, about Aarti's mum.

                                                            I like Indian food, and a lot of what Aarti has prepared this season has appealed to me (her recipes are up on the FN site BTW) but I have to tell you, a naan "pizza" with chutney on it didn't sound good to me or to my husband. I wouldn't serve it to my family for dinner. If that's what's she's going to be cooking, I won't be watching.


                                                            1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                              HabaneroJane Aug 16, 2010 09:38 AM

                                                              I love Indian food but don't want to make it in my house. Don't need to watch cutesy Aarti telling me to put chutney on my pizza either. Meh. I hope Tom gets something and hope that, like in true American Idol fashion, the runner up becomes more famous than the winner. wink.

                                                              1. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 09:44 AM

                                                                Oh, I wouldn't mind making Indian food in my home. But, while chutney pizza might seem approachable and nonthreatening, but it doesn't sound very good. I mean, seriously, you'd put that sugary fruit "pizza" in front of your family and call it dinner? It's as if Aarti took a page from Aria's book.


                                                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                  NellyNel Aug 19, 2010 11:21 AM

                                                                  I was truly drooling over that pizza!!! I thought it looked absolutely delicious.

                                                                  I was also drooling over Toms chicken!!

                                                                  (must have been hurgry at the time!!!)

                                                                2. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                  debbiel Aug 16, 2010 10:37 AM

                                                                  That was one dish folks. She has done a bit more than chutney on naan during the season.

                                                                  I don't really get the Tom love. I don't have a tremendous dislike for him, but I have no idea what he would be trying to teach me about cooking. What would his show be? He's just a bit shucky darn casual lackadaisacal guy for me. I'd like to have a bee with him but I'm not sure I want to watch a cooking show for him.

                                                                  All that said, here are the shows I watch regularly on FN: NFNS, ICA, and..NICA. That's about it. I'll watch a few episodes of Aarti's show to see if it strikes me as useful and engaging.

                                                                  1. re: debbiel
                                                                    The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 10:44 AM

                                                                    Debbie, I completely get your point that it's just one dish, but it's also the first time she's articulated her POV as "incorporating Indian flavors into your everyday foods" (or whatever, I'm paraphrasing of course). So, to me, it seems like we're going to get a lot of Indian-spiced pasta, Indian-spiced burgers, Indian-spiced tacos, etc. It's not just the one dish that worries me, it's the one dish combined with with this revamping of her POV.

                                                                    Before I got the impression that she was doing Indian food, but simplified. Now I get the impression that she's doing American food, Indian-fied.

                                                                    RE: the Tom-love. It took me a long time to warm up to him, but I think the guy can cook and he has an interesting way of articulating things. I mean, he just seems to have a unique way of looking at the world, and that's interesting to me. I wasn't completely sold on him though, so, I understand what you're saying.


                                                                    1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                      debbiel Aug 16, 2010 10:55 AM

                                                                      That makes sense TDQ, on the switch in POV. I think that's a problem with FN, not Aarti. Frankly, I don't think it matters which of the three won, the resulting show would be dumbed down.

                                                                      I would also prefer a real Indian cooking show. I do cook Indian at home on ocassion, have come a long way, but have so much more to learn. I just have no expectation that FN would be the entitty to help me with that. Now, if Aarti's Indian-fied American food can mean fewer people sneering at or whining around those of us heating up Indian leftovers at work, I will recommend her and FN for some sort of humanitarian award, even if I learn nothing from the show.

                                                                      1. re: debbiel
                                                                        The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 10:57 AM

                                                                        HA! Funny.

                                                                        Your point about it wouldn't have mattered who won is a good one. You're probably right.


                                                                3. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                  Joanie Aug 16, 2010 11:07 AM

                                                                  Yeah, that pizza seemed like a really lame attempt at mixing Indian and "American" while her previous dishes food seemed more true Indian influenced. And sounded better.

                                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                    iL Divo Aug 23, 2010 10:36 AM

                                                                    ditto DQ, we didn't like the looks of it either.
                                                                    I don't want chutney on my pizza, sounds very odd to me.
                                                                    and didn't like Toms's comment on the latch key thing either.
                                                                    plus, he was very "move-ie" in his presentations which would drive me bats after 20 seconds of viewing

                                                                    I won't be watching Aarti either, no hook in my opinion

                                                                    1. re: iL Divo
                                                                      The Dairy Queen Aug 23, 2010 11:12 AM

                                                                      You know, I have to say, when I saw the naan pizza on FN, it didn't sound interesting, or like pizza, to me at all. But, when I looked at the recipe on the FN it didn't sound bad, actually. It had a lot more stuff on it than just chutney.

                                                                      On the other hand, I went and looked at the "sloppy joe" recipe from her "real show" yesterday (which I didn't see) and couldn't be less interested.

                                                                      I mean, I cannot believe that there is a homecook out there who is looking for a sloppy joe recipe. Blah.


                                                                      1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                        iL Divo Aug 23, 2010 04:30 PM

                                                                        well DQ, I saw her do it on the show before she won and it didn't appeal to me then at all. I do like sweet mixed with savory but that just didn't do it for me. the show where they showcased their own bottled/jarred thingie, is that the one that this pizza chutney thing was on? can't remember now. anyway, the chocolate raspberry sauce seemed a hit but that gal who created it seemed flat.
                                                                        guess it just goes to show the one that impressed them the most is the one that came in first in the end.

                                                                  2. re: jmckee
                                                                    Withnail42 Aug 16, 2010 09:42 AM

                                                                    No Aarti is not doing what Julia Child did, far from it.

                                                                    As you mentioned Aarti, in the true simplistic FN way, is doing a watered down version of indian food. Julia Child, on the other hand, did not assume that her readers and viewers were idiots and cooked straight forward French food not a watered down version. The sad fact is that the food Julia Child made fifty or so years ago would still be deemed to complicated and elitist by FN.

                                                                    1. re: Withnail42
                                                                      LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 11:09 AM

                                                                      I posted my response before seeing what you wrote, Withnail. :-) So I'll just say "what you said." :-)

                                                                    2. re: jmckee
                                                                      LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 11:06 AM

                                                                      "Indeed, Aarti is doing for Indian food exactly what Julia Child did for French cooking in the early "French Chef" days -- taking the fear and "bugaboo" out of the idea. It's exactly the right approach."
                                                                      Not quite. Julia made real French food - recipes she had tested and retested and ones that would stand up against any French chef making them as well.. She acknowledged that something would take hours and hours to prepare. Julia would never have made a generic version of recipes that had "French flavors".

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                                                                      araknd Aug 16, 2010 09:42 AM

                                                                      My wife was rooting for Aarti all along. She really seemed to nail the food, but couldn't handle the camera part until the pilot, showing that she has the capacity to change and grow.
                                                                      At first, I was rooting for Tom and I still like him, but now I think his concept was a little too much like "Guy's Big Bite". Maybe Tom will get a gig like Adam Goertler. I think that all three deserves shows, maybe Herb will show up on Cooking Channel as that demographic might be more in keeping with his concept.

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                                                                      1. re: araknd
                                                                        Healthy Delicious Aug 16, 2010 10:13 AM

                                                                        In terms of Tom's concept -- isn't that also exactly what Aaron McCargo's concept is? 'Big flavors...'

                                                                        Also, on another topic -- did anyone else notice how glammed up and idealized the FNS 'portraits' :-) were? Especially Rachel Ray's. And then Aarti's potrait is her in an APRON? (At least that's how it appeared to me.)

                                                                        1. re: Healthy Delicious
                                                                          coney with everything Aug 17, 2010 05:34 AM

                                                                          I thought Rachael Ray's portrait was...well...scary.

                                                                          And no pix of Anne Burrell, Big Daddy, or Melissa? Aren't they deserving of being part of the pantheon?

                                                                          1. re: coney with everything
                                                                            DiningDiva Aug 17, 2010 06:41 AM

                                                                            I saw Melissa's portrait.

                                                                            1. re: coney with everything
                                                                              NellyNel Aug 19, 2010 11:25 AM


                                                                              Coney - First of all I noticed how scary RR's pic was, and then I noticed that none of the other winners of NFNS were there!!!
                                                                              HA HA HA!!

                                                                              I'm sure I didnt see Melissa's pic! I looked!

                                                                              1. re: NellyNel
                                                                                The Dairy Queen Aug 19, 2010 12:44 PM

                                                                                I looked, too. I think only Fieri's was there.


                                                                                1. re: NellyNel
                                                                                  DiningDiva Aug 19, 2010 12:55 PM

                                                                                  They showed Melissa's photo when they first panned the "wall of stars" just before going to commercial break

                                                                                  1. re: DiningDiva
                                                                                    NellyNel Aug 19, 2010 01:29 PM

                                                                                    They kept showing Giada's pic..(her's was scary too!)

                                                                                    I'm a late comer to NFNS.
                                                                                    I caught last season and the end of the season before that.

                                                                                    So was Fieri a contestant/winner then?
                                                                                    I thought I heard that and then I thought I was wrong about that.

                                                                                    I thought the final three were all really strong - much better than the past 2 years finalists...
                                                                                    I wasnt really rooting fo anyone in particular because I liked all three of them.

                                                                                    I'm surprised to see how many people think Aarti is annoying...I really liked her.

                                                                                    1. re: NellyNel
                                                                                      DiningDiva Aug 19, 2010 02:30 PM

                                                                                      All, the pictures were scary :-). I know I didn't dream seeing Melissa's photo because I remember thinking how big her teeth looked in the photo. And I know I wouldn't confuse her with Giada.

                                                                                      Guy won Season 2. He's really been their only breakout "star" from all the winners.

                                                                                      I liked Aarti quite a bit up until almost the end. I thought she was rather charming and obviously she could cook. What turned me off was the "oh, me? I won again" false modesty week after week. I was never really convinced she had self doubt issues. Like Herb's mood swings, I always kind of thought Aarti's confidence issues were a creation of FTV editing.

                                                                                      1. re: DiningDiva
                                                                                        NellyNel Aug 20, 2010 06:28 AM

                                                                                        LOL on Melissa's teeth!!
                                                                                        Ok I guess I missed it, but I was looking for her...and the guy that won the year before...

                                                                                        Ah so Guy WAS on NFNS!! How interesting!

                                                                                        Aarti: I sort of believed her modesty,,,Sort of...But you are right - so much to do with editing.

                                                                                        You know who annoyed me?
                                                                                        Herb - with all the talk about his family and kids - bleh!
                                                                                        Enough already! We get it....
                                                                                        "I can't go home not a loser - I can't disappoint my kids" UGH
                                                                                        Though he did seem gracious when he didnt win, I'da been curious to see what he had to say afterward.

                                                                                        i'll have to remember to dvr Aarti on Sunday...

                                                                                        1. re: NellyNel
                                                                                          jmckee Aug 20, 2010 08:34 AM

                                                                                          hadn't thought of this, but: What a sad comment on Herb's set of parenting approaches. "Can't go home a loser. Can't disappoint my kids." Is THAT what he's teaching them -- you can only be successful if you're a big conventional success? That doing your best even if you fail is somehow less than honorable?

                                                                                          1. re: jmckee
                                                                                            NellyNel Aug 20, 2010 08:45 AM

                                                                                            That is exactly what I thought...
                                                                                            I was going to add that sentiment to my post but I thought I'd go off on a tangent!

                                                                                            1. re: jmckee
                                                                                              debbiel Aug 20, 2010 09:33 AM

                                                                                              Excellent, excellent point jmckee!

                                                                                              1. re: jmckee
                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet Aug 21, 2010 02:14 PM

                                                                                                thank you for bringing this up! as much as i liked Herb's energy (when he was "on") and appreciated his POV, this particular issue really stuck in my craw.

                                                                                                1. re: jmckee
                                                                                                  kprange Aug 21, 2010 05:49 PM

                                                                                                  I actually thought he was saying to to try your hardest at anything you do. I didn't apply that comment specifically to TNFNS, but to any challenge faced. Trust me, as a mother with two kids, the last thing I want to do is disappoint them. Isn't he a stay at home dad? Aren't his kids and family the main - no job - focus in his life? .

                                                                                2. BubblyOne Aug 16, 2010 10:05 AM

                                                                                  It looks like Brad will be doing the 6 webcasts, since he is the fan vote choice after Aarti. I'm looking forward to that more than Aarti.

                                                                                  1. dave_c Aug 16, 2010 10:11 AM

                                                                                    Tom's last line in his pilot was the best and clearly defined his "culinary viewpoint."

                                                                                    Herb was good and he geared his healthy show towards his Latin roots. Also, I think a PR and Cuban food show is due.

                                                                                    Aarti... Hmmm... I don't know. As a chowhound, I want authentic, but maybe for the FN viewing audience they want to baby step into a new cuisine with pungent odors and spices.

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                                                                                    1. re: dave_c
                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 10:22 AM

                                                                                      I guess that's completely a fair point about Aarti, (that others have made, too) that maybe much of the FN audience isn't ready for full-on "authentic" Indian cuisine. And that's fine for them. But, I'm still disappointed. It seems she could do more than it appears they are letting her. Now, who knows what her actual show will be. They have (in the past) tweaked the concept between the "pilot" they air on TNFNS and what the actual show is. Somehoe poor Melissa D got saddled with the $10 thing after TNFNS...


                                                                                      1. re: dave_c
                                                                                        Parrotgal Aug 16, 2010 11:00 AM

                                                                                        I'm clearly watching too much food reality TV. I saw "Tom" and thought you meant Tom Coliccho!

                                                                                        I did find myself rooting for Herb, because I think his is the show I would watch. I was somewhat disappointed, but have to remember that that everyone loved almost everything Aarti made. I'm terrified of trying to make Indian food, but will definitely watch to see how I can get my toes wet.

                                                                                        I did think all the final 3 did really well on their pilots.

                                                                                        1. re: Parrotgal
                                                                                          Janet from Richmond Aug 16, 2010 11:23 AM

                                                                                          I agree that all three did well and IMO any of them would have been better than Melissa from last year and Aaron from the previous season. They all came across as sincere and credible.

                                                                                      2. j
                                                                                        Jeffo405 Aug 16, 2010 10:16 AM

                                                                                        I've thought of auditioning for NFNS, but my "culinary point of view" would be "fast, delicious heart-healthy eating" - a tough one to pull off when the "secret ingredient" in the Iron Chef challenge is bacon!

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                                                                                        1. re: Jeffo405
                                                                                          HabaneroJane Aug 16, 2010 11:26 AM

                                                                                          Attention Tom Fans: This just in from Entertainment Weekly:

                                                                                          “Runner-up Tom Pizzica will host the new primetime series Outrageous Food, premiering November 2010. Production begins today for this traveling food show featuring out-of-this-world eats.”

                                                                                          1. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                                            LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 11:44 AM

                                                                                            Looks like Aarti Party starts next Sunday:


                                                                                            "On her new daytime series, Aarti invites viewers to join her for a playful Aarti Party, where she shares approachable and delicious ways to enhance American favorites with simple but unique Indian influences. Whether she's sprucing up everyday pulled pork sandwiches and perfectly roasted chicken or taking classic bread pudding and basic red lentils to new heights, Aarti cleverly combines the familiar with the exotic to create mouthwatering meals."

                                                                                            1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 11:50 AM

                                                                                              Well, two things to note:

                                                                                              1) It looks like Tom is getting his own PRIME TIME show: "The Next Food Network Star, Food Network is excited to announce that runner - up Tom Pizzica will host the new primetime series Outrageous Food, premiering November 2010. Production begins today for this traveling food show featuring out - of - this - world eats."

                                                                                              2) And it looks like Aarti will indeed be Indian-izing American food, rather than showing us how to prepare Indian food. "Whether she's sprucing up everyday pulled pork sandwiches and perfectly roasted chicken or taking classic bread pudding and basic red lentils to new heights, Aarti cleverly combines the familiar with the exotic to create mouthwatering meals."


                                                                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 12:01 PM

                                                                                                "...this traveling food show featuring out - of - this - world eats."

                                                                                                How many "on the road" shows does TFN have? :-)

                                                                                                Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives
                                                                                                Chefs vs. City (a stretch, I know)
                                                                                                Extreme Cuisine
                                                                                                Feasting on Waves
                                                                                                Feasting on Asphalt
                                                                                                Have Fork, Will Travel
                                                                                                Rachael Ray's Tasty Travels
                                                                                                Rachael's Vacation
                                                                                                Road Tasted (Deen boys)
                                                                                                Road Tasted with the Neelys
                                                                                                Roker On the Road
                                                                                                The Great Food Truck Race (also a stretch, but it's still a "road show")

                                                                                                1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 12:08 PM

                                                                                                  Oh, and don't forget Giada's vacations show, whatever that one is called, and now Gertler's Kid in a Candy Shop show, whatever that one is called. And that "How did that get on my plate" show...with, Sunny or Sunni?


                                                                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                    LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 12:49 PM

                                                                                                    Didn't realize those were both "travel" shows, nor Will Work For Food. Sheesh. Granted, they've got a LOT of airtime to fill, and I guess people would be bitching if they repeated various shows over and over again.....oh. Wait. :-/

                                                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 01:10 PM

                                                                                                      I've not seen Gertler's candy show, but when i saw the ads I thought, "Oh, DDD, but for desserts."

                                                                                                      The How Did that Get on my Plate show, based on the 1-2 partial episodes I've seen in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep, reminds me of Unwrapped, but slightly less commercial.


                                                                                                      1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                        LindaWhit Aug 16, 2010 01:23 PM

                                                                                                        Unwrapped. One of the dreckiest of drecky shows on TFN. Second only to Aunt Sandy.

                                                                                                        OK - enough of that, Linda. This is a TNFNS thread. Sorry juju. :-)

                                                                                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                          jeanmarieok Aug 16, 2010 02:02 PM

                                                                                                          Hey, leave 'Unwrapped' alone - what great family tv that was a few years ago!!!

                                                                                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                            jujuthomas Aug 17, 2010 05:52 AM

                                                                                                            no worries Linda! I agree completely. :)

                                                                                                    2. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                      debbiel Aug 16, 2010 12:10 PM

                                                                                                      Don't forget Kid in a Candy Store, Will Work for Food, and the oldie but not goodie Secret Life of...

                                                                                                      Those shows all drive me nuts. And most don't seem to last long.

                                                                                                  2. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                    debbiel Aug 16, 2010 11:59 AM

                                                                                                    Am I the only one that didn't know she had a series of web videos called Aarti's Paarti? A friend just sent me a link to one (at the beginning of which she toasts coriander seeds and other spices!). There appear to be several of them, including one for Indian pizza. She looks a bit less doe-eyed than what I think was bothering people on NFNS. I don't expect FN to allow her to go back to that. Look what they did to Paula Dean, after all.


                                                                                                    1. re: debbiel
                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 12:01 PM

                                                                                                      Yes, you're the only one. :). I think that's what they were referring to when they kept calling her a "food blogger."

                                                                                                      Nah, I knew she had those videos and I think that's why they are kind of rolling with the goofy "Aarti Party" name (noticed they've changed the spelling,) because they want to attract whatever fan base "Aarti Paarti" might already have.


                                                                                                      1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                        debbiel Aug 16, 2010 12:05 PM

                                                                                                        I'm going to take my ignorance on this as a point of pride--not looking into contestants' backgrounds too much and not paying close attention to details on the show. Go me. :-)

                                                                                                        1. re: debbiel
                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 12:13 PM

                                                                                                          Yes, I think you should consider that a point of pride.

                                                                                                          I found it because someone in another thread had mentioned that she was a regular contributor to some food site (can't remember which one anymore, sorry) and that she had a reasonably credentialed media background, and viedo stuff is what came up when I googled her.


                                                                                                      2. re: debbiel
                                                                                                        araknd Aug 16, 2010 12:23 PM

                                                                                                        Don't feel all alone. I didn't know that she had done web videos. When I saw "Food Blogger" as her description, I wondered how the hell did that qualify her for the show?

                                                                                                    2. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                                                      ipsedixit Aug 16, 2010 11:47 AM

                                                                                                      Sometimes it's almost better to be the loser.

                                                                                                      Dollars to donuts Tom's Outrageous Food show lasts longer than Aarti Party ...

                                                                                                      1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                                        debbiel Aug 16, 2010 11:54 AM

                                                                                                        But that show will also be less about cooking than the Indian-fied American food that is shown on Aarti's Party.

                                                                                                        I'm so sick of these food feature shows on FN.

                                                                                                      2. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 11:55 AM

                                                                                                        Whoops, sorry, I didn't see this HJane. :).


                                                                                                        1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                          HabaneroJane Aug 16, 2010 12:32 PM

                                                                                                          no sweat, DQ. we're on the same page!

                                                                                                        2. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                                                          gridder Aug 25, 2010 07:21 AM

                                                                                                          I do not GET Tom. . . Seriously -- I didn't like him, his persona, his stories, his food -- nothing. I absolutely do not see what the judges saw in him.

                                                                                                      3. d
                                                                                                        djd Aug 16, 2010 01:45 PM

                                                                                                        I don't get the Aarti hate. We all know that the Food Network isn't interested in high-end, authentic-anything how-to-cook shows. Aarti nailed the whole FN host equation early on: polished yet approachable, tell the story, make food the judges think tastes good. And I thought she seemed charming.

                                                                                                        Incidentally, the whole "big flavors" thing annoys me. What's it supposed to mean, anyway, beyond "I use twice as much hot pepper as the other guy"?

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                                                                                                        1. re: djd
                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 02:03 PM

                                                                                                          RE: the Aarti hate. Well, "hate" is a strong word. I dont' hate her, but I'm thoroughly annoyed by her. I found her charming in the beginning, I did. But, as the season wore on, I found her increasing juvenile and self-absorbed. I found her little, "Who me?" act exactly that: an act. It seemed phony and insincere and anything but polished.

                                                                                                          But, anyone's personality --even that of the real cooking professionals--can rub anyone the wrong way. I mean there's a whole thread going right now re: Bobby Flay Haters or "Flayters" where some people are posting that they find him arrogant and others (such as me) find him quite humble.

                                                                                                          It takes all types.

                                                                                                          RE: Tom's deal: I think he was trying to say that he was going to be thinking out of the box, taking "risks" in the kitchen. Obviously, it didn't work for more than just you. :).


                                                                                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                            HabaneroJane Aug 16, 2010 02:38 PM

                                                                                                            Re: the Aarti hate. Ditto verbatim what The Dairy Queen said with one exception: I'm a self professed Flayter.

                                                                                                            1. re: HabaneroJane
                                                                                                              celfie Aug 16, 2010 04:23 PM

                                                                                                              tom is just another oaf. it's no wonder he was an unemployed chef. his tv persona is inauthentic. him and herb spill this horrible fake exuberance. aarti is subdued and seems authentic. also it is about time indian food gets some air time on FN

                                                                                                              1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                whatsfordinner Aug 18, 2010 08:06 AM

                                                                                                                Oops. I didn't get as far as your post! Like someone above said, what you said.

                                                                                                            2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                              whatsfordinner Aug 18, 2010 08:05 AM

                                                                                                              "RE: the Aarti hate. Well, "hate" is a strong word. I dont' hate her, but I'm thoroughly annoyed by her. I found her charming in the beginning, I did. But, as the season wore on, I found her increasing juvenile and self-absorbed. I found her little, "Who me?" act exactly that: an act. It seemed phony and insincere and anything but polished. "

                                                                                                              I'm wondering if a lot of that "act" had to do with the editing. From the start Aarti seemed to have a better camera presence and her food was better than the others. I think the producers had to find something for her to overcome if only so the others could remain competitive.

                                                                                                              I find her likable and watchable, but am disappointed that her show will feature American food with Indian influences. As others have mentioned, I'd be interested in learning how to cook authentic Indian food.

                                                                                                              I really don't get the love for Tom and Herb. Tom was a likable slob whose food didn't interest me and Herb's personality was annoying.

                                                                                                              1. re: whatsfordinner
                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2010 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                Editing is everything.


                                                                                                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                  littlestevie Aug 18, 2010 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                  These shows are unscripted dramas. There is so much footage on all of the contestants, the editors can make anyone appear any way they want. I do like to make fun of the FN but Bravo with Top Chef and Hell's Kitchen are really not that much different, at least in the fakey drama not so much in the quality of chefs.

                                                                                                            3. re: djd
                                                                                                              dave_c Aug 16, 2010 04:38 PM

                                                                                                              I don't know Aarti so I can't say that I hate her. I believe most people are voicing their disappointment, not hate.

                                                                                                              I am disappointed that FN went this route. It's the equivalent of claiming Taco Bell is authentic Mexican cuisine. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Taco Bell and for most of middle America that's as close to Mexican food that they can find.

                                                                                                              In other words, the food being "Indian inspired" is just a marketing ploy by FN.

                                                                                                              1. re: dave_c
                                                                                                                celfie Aug 16, 2010 04:47 PM

                                                                                                                if her food isn't indian inspired it's because it is full on indian! yeesh

                                                                                                                1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 06:12 PM

                                                                                                                  celfie, I completely respect that you're a fan of Aarti, but even the FN isn't claiming Aarti's food is "full on Indian." Straight from their website: "Aarti Sequeira invites viewers to join her for a playful Aarti Party, where she shares easy and delicious ways to enhance American favorites with simple but unique Indian influences."

                                                                                                                  SHe's not going to be doing Indian cooking, she's going to be tweaking American food to be, well, Indian influenced.

                                                                                                                  From the "About the Show" blurb to the left:

                                                                                                                  I would love it if Indian food got some air time on FN, but it doesn't seem to me that Aarti Party will be accomplishing that.


                                                                                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                    junescook Aug 16, 2010 07:08 PM

                                                                                                                    "I would love it if Indian food got some air time on FN, but it doesn't seem to me that Aarti Party will be accomplishing that."

                                                                                                                    So, TDQ, were you a big fan of Padma's show?

                                                                                                                    I'm just getting a little tired of people never hearing recipes and hating Bobby Flay or Mario Batali or Rachael Ray or Emeril Lagasse or anybody else they put up because of personality.

                                                                                                                    So if you read a lot of the board, everybody hates Mario's and Joe's restaurants. And, of course there's whole columns here about that demon, Bobby Flay. I would like to know how many of Rachael Ray's recipes have been downloaded, and how many of her books have been bought. I guess those were by the plebians, those who don't want to go home every night and dig out something a la Escoffier.

                                                                                                                    Seriously, I think if you really want real Indian food, It will have to be a longer program with steps to making the different curries, the histories of the different regions, etc.

                                                                                                                    1. re: junescook
                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 11:28 PM

                                                                                                                      I'm not completely sure I understand your point (though I get your last paragraph), but:

                                                                                                                      I've never seen Padma's show. Has it ever been on FN? I've only had cable for a couple of years--one of my concessions to long Minnesota winters. I mostly watch FN in the middle of the night when I can't sleep because FN usually has content until about 3-4am. We watch TNFNS because we like having a thing to watch on Sunday nights when we're winding down from our big day of chores. Usually it's Amazing Race, or something on HBO, or those dreaded (by me) but harmless animated shows my husband loves, but the last couple of seasons, it's been TNFNS. It's probably the only show on FN that I make a point to watch or record, for reasons I can't explain. We also watched Next Iron Chef.

                                                                                                                      I'm a fan of Bobby Flay--check out the Flayter thread (I'm a Fliker!). I've eaten at Mesa (Vegas) and had good experiences. I've cooked several of his recipes, though never off of the FN site. I own one of his books (Grilling for Life) but that's because I meant to ship it as a gift and stupidly mailed it to myself instead. So I kept it instead of paying to ship it back. (And ordered another copy and had it shipped to the correct location the second time around). It's pretty good actually, but I'm not really the person who grills at my house...so, it's a little unfair of me to dictate recipes to the person who grills. I would like, but don't own, Mesa, mostly because I have this complicated algorithm about cookbooks I allow myself to buy and Mesa has never fit the equation. I've checked it out of the library and have cooked from it.

                                                                                                                      I own one RR book (her first that she published before FN) because I read about it somewhere and I thought her concept sounded interesting. (This idea that she teaches you 6 core recipes and then shows you how to riff off of it). I received the book in a swap. It doesn't look awful (except that the names are maddeningly cutesy) but I've never cooked from it because the damn thing doesn't have an index, just a TOC, and that drives me bonkers. But, it was recently indexed on EYB, and if you look in the EYB thread on the HC board, you'll see that I discuss how glad I am that that book has been indexed because I might actually use it. Also, when I was on Weight Watchers, many of my WW friends said many RR recipes were easy to adapt to the plan and called, for the most part, real food. (Of course the cheesy, bacon-y recipes were to be avoided at all costs.)

                                                                                                                      I recently acquired Emeril's Farm to Fork, have cooked several things from it, and was pleasantly surprised to find that I liked it. I find him SUPER annoying on TV, but I like this book of his.

                                                                                                                      I own 2 of Ellie Krieger's books. I've cooked a little from one, not much from the other. They aren't the world's most spectacular recipes, but offer really good ideas on how to lighten recipes up, using real food.

                                                                                                                      I own no Mario, but have checked a couple of his books out of the library during COTM and during tailgating season. I don't feel I need to own them because I have several other Italian books, notably Hazan. I don't need more. I didn't even buy the two most recent COTMs, which were Italian. My husband wants to eat at one of his restaurants next time we're in Vegas.

                                                                                                                      I recently acquired Ina Garten's Back to Basics in a buy one, get one free kind of deal from The Good Cook. I've never cooked from it (or have I? Can't remember.) Anyway, it's new, so I haven't really given it a chance yet.

                                                                                                                      I have downloaded 3 recipes from FN: two of Alton Browns, one Giada. All fine, none spectacular.

                                                                                                                      So, there you go. That's a complete accounting of FN products I own or have used. What does that say about me? I'm influenced to buy products flogged by people I see on TV? I guess that's true. *ashamed* Oh, wait. I did once own an egg and muffin toaster branded Paula Dean, which used to make me laugh. I could not tell the difference between the Paula Dean toaster and the Back to Basics (competitor) toaster, both on Amazon, except the Paula Dean one was black and matched our counters better. It was a flimsy appliance, but we loved it. We replaced it with a better model when it broke. Don't ask me what Paula Dean has to do with egg and muffin toasters: I never understood the connection.

                                                                                                                      As far as Indian cooking, I would welcome a longer program with steps on the different curries, the histories of the different regions, cultural context, a discussion of ingredients. I would love it if they went into an Indian market and talked about the different spices, how they're grown, what they're used for, maybe some cultural perspective. I would welcome all of that. I could totally see individual episodes on making the perfect naan, making paneer, making samosas, and so on. But, producing that kind of show would take a lot of time and investment of money, which doesn't seem to be FN's mandate.

                                                                                                                      Funnily enough, I was telling my husband that they never have any grandmotherly types on TNFNS. I might not watch Aarti's show, or Aria's show, or Serena's show, but I might watch a show by Aarti's grandmother, Aria's grandmother, or Serena's grandmother. I fear Paula Dean has ruined it for all grandmas...

                                                                                                                      One of the problems I have with most cooking shows these days, is that they feel they need to blow through 3 recipes in a half hour: a main, a side, and a dessert. I wish they'd slow down so they could really teach you something. Cooking shows aren't music videos...and who has time (and calories) for dessert so regularly anyway? Well, I don't. :).


                                                                                                                      1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                        celfie Aug 17, 2010 06:04 AM

                                                                                                                        sounds like you should be watching pbs and not food network

                                                                                                                        1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 06:52 AM

                                                                                                                          You are probably right, celfie, but they dont' run food shows at 2am when I can't sleep. Of course, I could record them, etc. but I'm just not that organized!


                                                                                                                        2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                          junescook Aug 17, 2010 07:47 AM

                                                                                                                          I'm sorry, DQ, if my frustrations with many of the comments posted on this board wound up directed at you. Indeed I have to agree with a lot of the things you said, especially the three recipes; we never eat dessert either and I'd rather just learn how to do the entree.

                                                                                                                          However, I'd just as soon skip the granmotherly types. Even Lidia drives crazy when she starts with the "now give Nonni a kiss".

                                                                                                                          Jacques Pepin is as grandparently as I like to get, at least he measures. (and he's proud to have worked for HoJo's all those years). Plus, he understood why people appreciated what Rachael Ray was doing, making cooking simple, and he has followed up in these last few years with his PBS series: Fast Food My Way.

                                                                                                                          1. re: junescook
                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 07:50 AM

                                                                                                                            HA! Fair enough. I guess with 2 almost 24-hour channels of food programming, plus all of the other channels, it's hard for every single person that gets cast to appeal to everyone. But, it does seem there are some real gaps in programming. But, as others have mentioned, maybe I should be watching more PBS.


                                                                                                                          2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                            kleine mocha Aug 17, 2010 09:15 AM

                                                                                                                            "As far as Indian cooking, I would welcome a longer program with steps on the different curries, the histories of the different regions, cultural context, a discussion of ingredients. I would love it if they went into an Indian market and talked about the different spices, how they're grown, what they're used for, maybe some cultural perspective. I would welcome all of that. I could totally see individual episodes on making the perfect naan, making paneer, making samosas, and so on. But, producing that kind of show would take a lot of time and investment of money, which doesn't seem to be FN's mandate."

                                                                                                                            There is a bit of that on Indian food made simple, which I'm surprised no one has mentioned in the discussion of "no real Indian food shows on Food Network." Granted, they are re-runs from the BBC, but the hostess clearly identifies the specific regions the recipes come from when showing a Brit how to cook, step by step, authentic Indian food. For example, she made 3 Goan dishes on the last episode (not sure when it aired, as I watched the Tivo version after coming home from a long weekend away). I like her show and you can find the recipes on the BBC website.

                                                                                                                            1. re: kleine mocha
                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                              Interesting, Kleine. I haven't seen her show, but it sounds like it's worth checking out.


                                                                                                                          3. re: junescook
                                                                                                                            HabaneroJane Aug 17, 2010 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                            June--Bobby Flay is one of my favorite chefs--when it comes to food. As for watching him on TV, I just can't. He makes me cringe. I can't stand him. Doesn't stop me from ever eating at his restaurants tho!

                                                                                                                            If Aarti Party opens a restaurant, I'd definitely try it. As for her show? Click.

                                                                                                                          4. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                            celfie Aug 16, 2010 07:09 PM

                                                                                                                            it sounds like it will be a good introduction to indian food for the uninitiated. i think that idea is much better than another white guy promising big bold flavors - isn't that bobby flay's thing anyways? as for hal, he never made anything interesting this entire competition. i don't find his food particularly healthy either. sure his fritata had less egg yolk but then he loaded it with cheese. his pitch seemed more like cutting corners - he didn't really bring anything new to the table.

                                                                                                                            give aarti a chance - i'm certain you are wrong if you expect her indian twist will be curry powder in hamburgers or something as dull as that.

                                                                                                                            1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Aug 16, 2010 11:54 PM

                                                                                                                              I'm not put off by white men on TV. Some of my best friends are white men.

                                                                                                                              For the first time, of all the times watching TNFNS, my husband turned to me and said (of Tom) "I'd watch his show." My husband does not watch ANY cooking shows, but was totally energized by the idea of a show hosted by just a regular laid-back guy, who wasn't fancy or frou frou or over the top with spikey hair, but someone who had some decent cooking chops who could teach him a few things.

                                                                                                                              I think FN lost an opportunity to appeal to men. And not in some Iron Chef or Chopped competition-type show (which I understand were designed to attract male viewers) or a show about burgers (DDD), but a real cooking show. My husband does his fair share of cooking at our house, but his repertoire is mostly limited to chili, spaghetti, meatloaf, and grilling. (He also makes fantastic pies.) I'm not complaining, he is a good cook and he is absolutely a good sport about it. And he shops and cleans up, too. But, do I think someone like Tom could have broadened my husband's cooking horizons? Possibly. Instead, they stuck him with a dumb extreme eating show. Good for Tom, it's a prime time show and all of that, but I don't have high hopes that it's something we'll watch at our house or learn anything from if we did.

                                                                                                                              Chowhound is supposed to help people eat better. If FN also has that mandate, then I think they missed an opportunity with Tom.

                                                                                                                              To be honest, celfie, Aarti rubs me the wrong way, even though the selection committee ooh'd and ah'd over her food. That is one of the risks they run with TNFNS, that their talent is overexposed and it backfires, which is what has happened here with Aarti for me. I'm not going to keep repeating how I feel about her, but I have "given her a chance", 10 episodes of chances, and I've drawn my conclusions about her: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7277...

                                                                                                                              If she turns out to be some amazing cooking show talent and you are all raving over her recipes after her 6 episodes, I might overlook my feelings of annoyance, for the sake of the food. Barring that, I think I'll watch Spice Goddess instead. It's just one channel away. Also, cooking channel also has this show Indian Food Made Easy. I've never run across it, but I am curious about it.

                                                                                                                              And P.S. I think you mean Herb, not Hal. I honestly wouldn't mind a show about cooking lighter. I do watch Ellie Krieger whenever she's on. You said he loaded the frittata up with cheese. Honestly, it was hard to tell how much cheese he used. It looks to me like it was a handful of grated cheese, which is probably about 4-6 ounces. Assuming there were 6-8 servings in the frittata, that's 1 ounce or less of cheese per person, which is quite reasonable. However, I always found Herb a little manic throughout the season. I never saw the amazing star quality everyone kept talking about...But, that's just me.


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                                                                                                                                celfie Aug 17, 2010 06:07 AM

                                                                                                                                since the inception of food network, there have been countless of shows directed towards 'regular guys'. they were all terrible!!! it's a format that is tired and boring because all of these guys are overly exuberant and do not seem genuine. i don't know any guy who acts like the male food network hosts. i hate bobby flay but at least e doesnt act like a complete self indulgent jackass over compensating for his lack of food technique.

                                                                                                                                1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 06:58 AM

                                                                                                                                  Again, you're probably right, but I haven't seen many of those shows and none of them seem to be airing right now. Maybe they were all so awful they've been cancelled or pushed to the wee hours of the morning when no one's watching.

                                                                                                                                  I've seen Guy Fieri's "Big Bite" (OTT party boy), Boitano's show which is fun and campy but OTT, the rescue chef who seems to be trying to appeal to the 20-something set (that's not us, alas), Big Daddy (a little too heavy on the fat and grease for us)--none of these appeal to my husband, average joe kind of guy. Bobby Flay's cooking shows are about grilling. My husband knows how to grill, so that's no help. Emeril's too flamboyant. BAM! Did Mario ever have a cooking show? Well, if he did, it's long gone...

                                                                                                                                  I think he might give Jamie Oliver a chance if he were on regularly, but that show doesn't seem to air much anymore.

                                                                                                                                  You obviously have had a very viscerally negative reaction to Tom, which I completely understand, because I've had an equally viscerally negative reaction to Aarti. Different strokes for different folks, as they say.

                                                                                                                                  I really do hope she succeeds. I mean, she's a real person who seems to be putting her journalism career on hold for this opportunity. I wish a person like that only the best of success. And, of course, if she succeeds in making the world a more delicious place, that's good for us all. But, right now, it seems all phony bologna Indian-esq to me. Someone above (or below?) described her as the Julia Child of Indian cusine. Right now I'm thinking of her as the Rachel Ray of Indian cuisine. I could be wrong, and maybe it was the direct RR influence on Aarti's pilot that I'm responding to, but time will surely tell.


                                                                                                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                    LindaWhit Aug 17, 2010 07:04 AM

                                                                                                                                    TDQ, check the schedule at The Cooking Channel for Jamie Oliver.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                      BubblyOne Aug 17, 2010 07:25 AM

                                                                                                                                      You and/or your husband might actually watch an episode of Grill It w/Bobby. Saying that "my husband knows how to grill, so that's no help" is like saying that since I know how to cook Italian, there is no reason for me to watch Lidia.
                                                                                                                                      It's a great premise, Bobby and another guest both riff of the same main ingredient prepared 2 ways. I too grill quite a bit here in CA and have learned about many things I never would have even considered cooking on a grill, as well a some great sauces, salsas and presentations.
                                                                                                                                      Between FN, the new Cooking channel, PBS, etc. you could literally watch good shows 24 hours a day. Instead of posting so much and complaining about not being organized, maybe take 5 minutes to set your DVR to record shows that interest you and watch them when you are available. Or not.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: BubblyOne
                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 07:42 AM

                                                                                                                                        Well, let me rephrase this. I live in a harsh climate where it's not really practical to grill most of the year. The grill takes a while to heat up in those sub-zero temps we get Dec-Feb. My husband does great work on the grill already, during grilling season. He's not a beginner. But he could definitely use some skills on cooking indoors for the other 8 months of the year and he actually thought Tom was pretty cool.

                                                                                                                                        I'm not really complaining in general. I'm just complaining that I don't like Aarti's concept, or her persona, and expressing disappointment that Tom got an extreme eating show when it appeared he might have other talents. I'm entitled to my opinion just as those who like Aarti's concept are. You're welcome to be elated; I'm welcome to my disappointment.


                                                                                                                                      2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                        celfie Aug 17, 2010 08:56 AM

                                                                                                                                        for my tastes, Guy Fieri is the most dreadful!!! i even like the top 5guy more

                                                                                                                                        1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                                          junescook Aug 17, 2010 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                          I love DDD so I can enjoy all that greasy crap vicariously. I do not care for hisother shows.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 09:32 AM

                                                                                                                                            Wait, who is the top 5 guy?

                                                                                                                                            I don't care much for Fieri, but I do think the way DDD has brought some attention to small, Mom & Pop businesses is pretty neat, though, as (I think) I said previously, I think they are running out of places to cover. But, I can see how he might rub you the wrong way!


                                                                                                                                            1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                              celfie Aug 17, 2010 09:44 AM

                                                                                                                                              bobby rivers
                                                                                                                                              that guy is something else

                                                                                                                                              1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                I've never even heard of him, but it sounds like I should be glad!


                                                                                                                              2. re: dave_c
                                                                                                                                debbiel Aug 16, 2010 08:11 PM

                                                                                                                                Dave, are you suggesting that her food isn't Indian inspired? I haven't seen a FN claim that it's authentic Indian. I thought the whole idea was the injection of a little Indian flavor in other dishes. I guess Im just confused by your post, which seems to suggest that the route is claiming authenticity, but then contradicts with the term "Indian inspired".

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                                                                                                                                  smartie Aug 17, 2010 05:06 AM

                                                                                                                                  if anyone's interested in Indian food then Ramsay is doing a tour of India re food on Thursday nights on BBC America. The first episode was very enjoyable and he is visiting far and distant places for tips and recipes and watching how things are done. And while most of us can't slow cook a curried rubbed goat in the sand for 6 hours the show is colorful and well Ramsay-ish!

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                                                                                                                                    celfie Aug 17, 2010 06:09 AM

                                                                                                                                    this show is insipid!!! he is so pompous and obviously does not know how to connect with the locals. he thinks connecting with these chefs means swearing a lot . it is such an obnoxious show and it is more about ramsay making a curry than it is about india! stick to no reservations, bourdains india episodes are great

                                                                                                                                  2. re: debbiel
                                                                                                                                    dave_c Aug 17, 2010 09:53 AM

                                                                                                                                    Debbiel, I'm suggesting that her food is Indian inspired. It's a way of FN of baby stepping people into the strong and pungent flavors of the food.

                                                                                                                                    However, what I am suggesting that people claiming she's cooking Indian food is a stretch. She is not cooking Indian food. She's using Indian spices and condiments.

                                                                                                                                    I would enjoy seeing her make different curries... or even making paneer (it's not that difficult).... What makes Indian cuisine so exciting? I guess my expectations are much grandeur, but again we are talking about FN.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: dave_c
                                                                                                                                      celfie Aug 17, 2010 10:01 AM

                                                                                                                                      she did do plenty of that during the competition. i think you are jumping to conclusions

                                                                                                                                      1. re: celfie
                                                                                                                                        dave_c Aug 17, 2010 10:52 AM

                                                                                                                                        You are confusing the competition and what she did during the competition to what she will be doing on her show, Aarti Paarti.

                                                                                                                                        "She shares easy and delicious ways to enhance American favorites with simple but unique Indian influences...."

                                                                                                                                        No jumping to conclusions. It all on the FN website.

                                                                                                                                      2. re: dave_c
                                                                                                                                        debbiel Aug 17, 2010 01:50 PM

                                                                                                                                        Here is the statement that confused me Dave: " It's the equivalent of claiming Taco Bell is authentic Mexican cuisine. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Taco Bell and for most of middle America that's as close to Mexican food that they can find."

                                                                                                                                        I don't know how claiming Indian inspired can be the equivalent of claiming authenticity.

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                                                                                                                                  funniduck Aug 16, 2010 07:13 PM

                                                                                                                                  I hope Aarti does well. And if she doesn't then they'll cancel her. Remember Party Line with The Hearty Boys? I'm sure FN tries to forget about them too.

                                                                                                                                  (I love how people who don't like the Food Network, don't like it so much that they watch it so they can't dislike it some more.)

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                                                                                                                                    alkapal Aug 21, 2010 05:01 AM

                                                                                                                                    hearty boys are still on....aren't they? early sunday morning?

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                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet Aug 21, 2010 02:15 PM

                                                                                                                                      reruns. very old reruns.

                                                                                                                                  2. Kajikit Aug 16, 2010 07:34 PM

                                                                                                                                    The name's abominable... but I'd give her a shot. I wouldn't be surprised to see all three popping up on the Food Network in the next year or so - when they find a 'good thing' they usually find something to do with it!

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                                                                                                                                      jujuthomas Aug 17, 2010 05:55 AM

                                                                                                                                      I'm going to give her a shot as well, because I really love indian flavors.

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                                                                                                                                        HabaneroJane Aug 17, 2010 11:14 AM

                                                                                                                                        Re the ghastly name Aarti Party: all I can think of is that abominable Don't Be Tardy For the Party, Substituting Aarti for Tardy
                                                                                                                                        that's reality TV for ya!

                                                                                                                                      2. NYCkaren Aug 17, 2010 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                        I keep thinking about how the judges raved about Aarti's food in the Iron Chef competition. To produce something really good under that pressure is impressive. So I'm thinking maybe there's something I can learn from her. I'll give her a shot. But if her show turns out to be watered-down and stupid like everyone here fears, I'll change the channel.

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: NYCkaren
                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2010 08:23 AM

                                                                                                                                          Her recipes are on FN already, if you want to try them out.


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                                                                                                                                            iL Divo Aug 18, 2010 10:08 PM

                                                                                                                                            since they all said her food was 'so' good, I'd like to try some out.
                                                                                                                                            bought a jar of galangal powder today and ground star anise too.
                                                                                                                                            gettin ready

                                                                                                                                            1. re: iL Divo
                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Aug 19, 2010 04:05 AM

                                                                                                                                              Which one are you going to try? I hope you'll let us know how you like it!


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                                                                                                                                                coney with everything Aug 19, 2010 05:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                "bought a jar of galangal powder today and ground star anise too"

                                                                                                                                                Makes me think that Jeffrey's Ingredient Smuggler concept would have had legs.

                                                                                                                                                Rather than starting with the cuisine and then talking about ingredients, start with an ingredient and use it in a lot of different applications.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: coney with everything
                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Aug 19, 2010 05:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Agreed, except that he is a white male and a lot of people apparently object to that.

                                                                                                                                                  Jeffrey supposedly did 6 webisodes either for FN or a sister site, but I never saw them. I wonder if those were successful or not. If they were successful, it seems like they could have turned that into something more, so, perhaps those flopped.

                                                                                                                                                  I wonder who won the webisode "fan favorite" vote this season. I think someone said Brad was winning. I should look.


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                                                                                                                                                    jeanmarieok Aug 19, 2010 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I saw a couple of Jeffrey's tapings on you tube. It's a shame he didn't win, he had a concept that was interesting. Melissa does nothing for me.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: jeanmarieok
                                                                                                                                                      alkapal Aug 21, 2010 05:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                      >>>>Melissa does nothing for me.<<<
                                                                                                                                                      ditto. i can't even watch two minutes without thinking, "how did she win this show again?" and...i can't even watch two minutes in any event.

                                                                                                                                                    2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                                      coney with everything Aug 20, 2010 06:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                      actually, wasn't he part Lebanese or something similarly exotic? Could have played that up...

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                                                                                                                                              bloo Aug 17, 2010 08:21 PM

                                                                                                                                              I thought arty (spelling intentional)was self absorbed and clueless (i agree with the poster who said her on camera persona was totally different than her off camera one-flower in her hair every take but off camera no flower and closed off...um kay arty)-tom was too much of an oaf-i liked herb but not that much

                                                                                                                                              i dont know why i watched this! for entertainment i suppose :)

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                                                                                                                                                MRPMRP Aug 18, 2010 11:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                I agree that all three pilots were phenomenal. Although I had been rooting for Aarti early in the season, Herb did impress me later in the season. I have to say, I was a bit worried that Herb was going to win. Aarti and Herb both have very unique culinary viewpoints. More unique than any other FNS, in my opinion. Herb cooks authentic Cuban cuisine with a healthy twist. Aarti uses Indian spices and condiments to enhance American dishes. As for Tom... He has a charming personality and a creative mind. While his creativity in the kitchen is applaudable, his culinary point of view is too vague. How many seasons can one chef cook with "big ideas?" Aarti and Herb will go a long way in their culinary careers. I also hope to see Herb on television. He should tour Central and South America and bring some interesting international cuisine to The Food Network. Check out Aarti's blog and personal cooking show episodes. (www.aartipaarti.com)

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                                                                                                                                                  pitterpatter Aug 18, 2010 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Aarti expresses how I cook at home, Sunday through Friday. I always take readily available ingredients and add an Asian, per my perception, twist. I am not looking for authentic Indian Cuisine from her, but for some punches to what I cook every day. This is why I was rooting for her from the start. On Saturdays, I often create a 7 course Indian meal to the best of my understanding and limitations.

                                                                                                                                                  She is delightful, beautiful, gleeful, and most certainly an accomplished cook who knows how to think on her feet.

                                                                                                                                                  I don't need another macho loud blasting white male telling me how to enjoy myself, and while I would never denigrate Tom. who is also fun and knowledgeable, nor Herb, whose cooking I would eat in an eye blink, Aarti was the clear winner, actually from Episode One.

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                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2010 03:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I was buying everything you said right up until your last two words. She served raw chicken in Episode 1. Raw chicken!


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                                                                                                                                                      debbiel Aug 18, 2010 05:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                      And what exactly is wrong with raw chicken?

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                                                                                                                                                        MRPMRP Aug 18, 2010 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Give her a break. She had thirty minutes to come up with a dish, prep for it, cook it, then plate it. That has to be nearly impossible.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: MRPMRP
                                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2010 05:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Indeed it is, but why why why would anyone choose chicken for such a challenge? It's a beginner's mistake, but it's hard to claim she was the clear winner from episode 1.


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                                                                                                                                                            DiningDiva Aug 18, 2010 06:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                            She didn't chose it, everyone had it. The first challenge was to define yourself on the plate using chicken and potatoes. Everyone had to use chicken and potato, the ingredients were chosen for them. Yeah, her chicken was raw, major boo boo, but she did show flashes of potential in that first episode.

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                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2010 06:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Ah, thanks for the reminder of that. Well, honestly, I didn't see any flashes of potential in that first episode, but, clearly, I don't know what to be looking for. Around episode 3 or so I decided I liked her. By episode 6 or 7, I was completely done with her.

                                                                                                                                                              The viewing public can be so fickle. Or, at least, I can be. :).


                                                                                                                                                          2. re: MRPMRP
                                                                                                                                                            donovt Aug 18, 2010 07:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Obviously not nearly impossible since nobody else served raw chicken.

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                                                                                                                                                              DiningDiva Aug 18, 2010 09:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Chicken is very easy to get done in 30 minutes, a lot will depend upon how it's being cooked

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: donovt
                                                                                                                                                                MRPMRP Aug 19, 2010 04:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Some dishes take longer than others. How can you prep and cook chicken in under thirty. That is difficult. Anyway, she was a star from day one.

                                                                                                                                                        2. pdxgastro Aug 18, 2010 05:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I would watch shows featuring each of the 3 NFNS finalists. I agree with previous posters that they all should be given a shot.

                                                                                                                                                          (And I wondered why Herb didn't have Tom working out during the competition to lose his gut?)

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                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2010 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Ha! They actually had a scene where they were showing Herb working some of the people out. Maybe episode 3 or so...


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                                                                                                                                                              jeanmarieok Aug 19, 2010 04:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I saw that - he was doing like personal training or something for everyone in the house who was interested.

                                                                                                                                                          2. iL Divo Aug 18, 2010 10:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                            anyone remember that Amy lady that did her show on Paris something or other?
                                                                                                                                                            her show lasted what 6 episodes?

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                                                                                                                                                            1. re: iL Divo
                                                                                                                                                              DiningDiva Aug 18, 2010 10:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                              She was offered a renewal and turned it down. She and her family moved to France shortly after her show aired.

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                                                                                                                                                                alkapal Aug 21, 2010 04:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                amy of the disheveled hair? was offered a *renewal*?

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: alkapal
                                                                                                                                                                  DiningDiva Aug 21, 2010 07:21 AM


                                                                                                                                                            2. The Dairy Queen Aug 20, 2010 02:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                              So, it appears Brad won the fan favorite which I guess means that he will be doing the six webisode.

                                                                                                                                                              On another front, doesn't this seem like Tom's show is moving forward (I can't say how I really understand that it's different from a combo of DDD and Kid in a Candy Shop, but, whatever) http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7286...


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                                                                                                                                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                                                SmartCookie Aug 20, 2010 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Sorry if this was already posted as I wasn't able to read through every single post, but you have to watch this hideous YouTube video of Aarti cooking at home; you specifically need to scroll to time 6:20 (in case you can't stomach watching the whole thing) to see punch marks (?) on the bedroom door filled with her hair accessories!


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                                                                                                                                                                  goodhealthgourmet Aug 21, 2010 02:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  TDQ, are you sure this is going to be Tom's show? i got the impression he wanted to *create* big, bold food, not talk about others who were doing it...though he was definitely the most successful of all the finalists during the commentating challenge, so maybe it's a good fit for him if it his actually his show.

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                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen Aug 21, 2010 03:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Nope, not sure, but it sure sounds like it to me:


                                                                                                                                                                    Whaddya think?


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                                                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet Aug 21, 2010 06:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      ahh, it most certainly sounds like it is! well, good for him, i guess.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                                                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen Aug 21, 2010 07:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        I know, right? I mean, it's great that it's a prime time show, but the concept is identical to so many others! But, then again, a pretty decent outcome for an unemployed chef. Really, I wish them all the best of luck, Aarti with her show, Brad with his webisodes, and Tom with his show. It would be great if they all exceeded our wildest expectations.


                                                                                                                                                                2. alkapal Aug 21, 2010 04:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  i didn't watch the series, but i could tell from the way the promos were shot that aarti would be "it."

                                                                                                                                                                  i say these winners are selected because of demographics.

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                                                                                                                                                                    chowser Aug 21, 2010 08:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Not if you look at any of the past winners, aside from Aarti. If Food Network wanted a certain demographic, they could just find someone and add that to the line up. They're constantly adding new shows. If they wanted to add Indian food, they'd just do it, without having to go through the pretense of a competition.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. John E. Aug 21, 2010 09:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Did anyone realize that Debbie from last season's TNFNS was Korean?

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                                                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet Aug 21, 2010 09:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      ha! :)

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                                                                                                                                                                        chowser Aug 22, 2010 06:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        See, if they selected by demographics, last season Debbie would have won. What was her ethnicity again?

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                                                                                                                                                                          BubblyOne Aug 22, 2010 08:50 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                            DiningDiva Aug 22, 2010 10:18 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                              dave_c Aug 22, 2010 10:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              From last season, I would have thought Melissa (who did win) was the demographic FN was shooting for... A stay-at-home mom cooking for her children.

                                                                                                                                                                          2. kprange Aug 22, 2010 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Ok. I am watching the TNFNS after party - did anyone else notice that Herb got more camera time than Aarti? I think he is just much more interesting than her. I don't know why. What do you think?

                                                                                                                                                                            1. rozz01 Aug 11, 2013 07:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              uuuuuuuugh... a less talented Trisha Yearwood

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                                                                                                                                                                                jeanmarieok Aug 11, 2013 07:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                I didn't watch - but I guessed right!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  paulj Aug 11, 2013 07:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Why are you posting on a 2010 thread?

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: rozz01
                                                                                                                                                                                    Withnail42 Aug 11, 2013 08:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    You do realize that this thread was for the 2010 series?

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