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L987 Aug 13, 2010 08:16 AM

I love to bake but sadly most of the cakes that I bake taste great the first day and maybe the 2nd but after that they get kind of dry and noone wants to eat them anymore..

I know that some cakes like cheesecakes and pecan pies taste better after a day or two what more cakes taste better after a few days? and what is the best way to store cakes?

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  1. folprivate Aug 13, 2010 09:28 AM

    I make a lemonade cake from cooking light that tastes better after a couple of days and I think the clementine cake is better after a couple of days. Here are links to both
    http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&recipe_id=249959

    http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ni...

    The lemonade cake should be refrigerated if you are going to keep it a couple of days. The clementine cake I just cover and leave on the counter

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    1. re: folprivate
      hotoynoodle Aug 14, 2010 12:43 PM

      2nd the clementine cake. i make nigella lawson's every christmas.

    2. ipsedixit Aug 13, 2010 09:54 AM

      Pound cake -- I always find that it tastes better the next day, esp. cold from the fridge.

      Tiramisu -- I think these hold up pretty well also.

      Upside down cakes -- any kind of upside down cake (e.g. Pineapple upside down cake) usually are good after a few days because the layers of sponge cake are soaked from the fruit topping.

      Stores cakes either at room temp or in the fridge. If you don't have a cake saver, use an inverted large bowl. If the cake has whipped frosting, store the same way (covered) but in the fride. Store things like the pound cake tightly wrapped.

      1. Caitlin McGrath Aug 13, 2010 10:30 AM

        Claudia Fleming's fabulous Guinness Stout Ginger Cake from The Last Course: The Desserts of Gramercy Tavern tastes better after a day or two of age and stays nice and moist for several days. The stout deepens the spice flavors, but doesn't taste like beer. This works well in a 9- or 10-inch springform pan, BTW.

        http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...

        1. sbp Aug 13, 2010 10:35 AM

          Carrot Cake (if you use a moist recipe and a hygroscopic sweetener like honey). Tres Leches Cake, Honey Cake.

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          1. re: sbp
            junglekitte Aug 13, 2010 10:49 AM

            definitely carrot cake and tres leches!!!!

            1. re: junglekitte
              rworange Aug 13, 2010 08:52 PM

              I love tres leches cake but I find it gets kind of disgusting after a few days. The cake gets ultra soggy. The whipped cream starts to taste sad.

              Anyway ... the 1980-ish Barcardi rum cake. If there was an ever trashier cake, I don't know about it ... but I loved that stupid cake. I should maybe make it again to see if the memory is as good as the reality.
              http://baking.about.com/od/bundtcakes...

              1. re: rworange
                junglekitte Aug 14, 2010 12:33 PM

                Hmm maybe it's your recipe? I find mine is good day 1, 2, and 3. :) Usually there's no more after that anyway!

                1. re: junglekitte
                  hotoynoodle Aug 14, 2010 12:42 PM

                  oh, the harvey wallbanger cake is pretty trashy too.

                  1. re: hotoynoodle
                    kattyeyes Aug 14, 2010 03:19 PM

                    There's a clean version of it on the King Arthur flour site, though:
                    http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipe...

                    I haven't made it, but remember stumbling upon it and saving it for future reference.

                  2. re: junglekitte
                    rworange Aug 14, 2010 01:07 PM

                    Nah. Never made it. I always buy it. However, no matter where I've bought it, it just doesn't hold up well.

                    Maybe post your recipe?

                  3. re: rworange
                    onceadaylily Aug 15, 2010 10:50 AM

                    Rum cake, where have you been! That was the cake I begged my mother to make for every one of my birthdays growing up. The adults thought it was quite funny that I, at age four, far preferred rum cake over chocolate. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out she got the recipe from the box the rum was packaged in.

                    The topping on the cake was so very good and crunchy. I keep swearing I'm going to make it myself, but I haven't yet. Maybe this year.

                    1. re: onceadaylily
                      alkapal Aug 15, 2010 11:50 AM

                      oh, make the rum cake. it is quite easy, actually -- and more delicious than most chocolate cakes i've ever had, too.

                      i've just used the bacardi recipe. <rw! that ain't no trashy cake!>. and don't forget its cousin, the "harvey wallbanger" cake! http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2...
                      <hotoynoodle, why are you a wallbanger "hater"? ;-)>

                      1. re: alkapal
                        onceadaylily Aug 15, 2010 12:27 PM

                        Oh, I will. Looking back, I am sure that my parents were as happy to have an excuse to buy rum as I am today. I can just see all those mothers standing in the liquor aisle, and saying, "Well, I *was* thinking of making a cake this week . . ."

                        1. re: onceadaylily
                          alkapal Aug 15, 2010 12:28 PM

                          "and it is so much more thrifty to buy a larger bottle, as the per ounce unit price is less. and of course, i'll be needing it for future baking." <ahem>

                          1. re: onceadaylily
                            rworange Aug 15, 2010 12:35 PM

                            I never thought of this, but it also is a good way to use up any unwanted liquor you might have ... and don't say there is no such thing ... I bought a bottle of this disgusting Portuguese anise-flavored liquor. The cake probably would have toned down the booze enough to make it palitable.

                            1. re: rworange
                              onceadaylily Aug 15, 2010 12:39 PM

                              I'll keep that in mind the next time the boyfriend's old roommate comes to visit, bearing his token 'gift' of a bottle of jagermeister.

                          2. re: alkapal
                            hotoynoodle Aug 16, 2010 01:22 PM

                            totally not! my mom's cake was so good!

                  4. greygarious Aug 13, 2010 10:40 AM

                    I prefer to store all cakes in the refrigerator and serve them on the cool side. They must be stored airtight.

                    The almond bundt cake on the label of the Solo brand almond filling can (or on their website) is better the next day and stays that way for a very long time. I once lost a container with several slices at the back of the fridge for over a month, and it still had excellent flavor.

                    Cakes with a lot of moisture, like applesauce or carrot cake, keep very well. Ditto those with alcohol.

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                    1. re: greygarious
                      sbp Aug 13, 2010 10:48 AM

                      Just a caveat re refrigerated cakes. Cakes made with lots of butter, if served cold, will taste dry. The butter is still in a solid state. Found that out the hard way with a coconut cake.

                      1. re: sbp
                        ipsedixit Aug 13, 2010 10:54 AM

                        That's not my experience with pound cake, which (if nothing else) is certainly not lacking in butter content.

                        1. re: sbp
                          chowser Aug 13, 2010 04:15 PM

                          I've read that but I find they're denser, not dry. I like butter cakes refrigerated.

                          1. re: chowser
                            sbp Aug 13, 2010 08:33 PM

                            It's not actual dryness, but a perception of dryness. What I notice with cold pound cake is more like a slight coating on the roof of my mouth and the crumb feels harder.

                            1. re: sbp
                              alkapal Aug 14, 2010 02:51 PM

                              pound cake cannot properly be served cold. period.

                              1. re: alkapal
                                souschef Aug 14, 2010 03:08 PM

                                I agree.

                                1. re: souschef
                                  alkapal Aug 14, 2010 03:20 PM

                                  pound cake must be wrapped in saran wrap, then in foil, and left on the counter for the maximum two-three days that it is available at premium tastiness. if it is not eaten in three days, then y'all are sick folks (because you don't know good eatin')!

                                2. re: alkapal
                                  ipsedixit Aug 15, 2010 12:05 PM

                                  "pound cake cannot properly be served cold. period."

                                  ________________________________________________

                                  I think pound cake (cold) with ice cream is divine.

                                  1. re: ipsedixit
                                    alkapal Aug 15, 2010 12:26 PM

                                    i stand by my point. the cold kills the delicate flavor. add ice cream if you wish, but serving a COLD cake is blasphemy.

                                    1. re: alkapal
                                      souschef Aug 15, 2010 12:41 PM

                                      Any time I am offered cake as one of the options for dessert at a restaurant I ask about the temperature at which it is served. If cold I decline it. I once asked a waiter to nuke a cold chocolate cake; he almost refused, saying it would collapse. I told him to do it anyway. A lady at my table was skeptical about what I was saying, so she tasted the cake before and after it got its molecules all shook up. She was amazed at the difference.

                                      Cold cake? Not for me. Blasphemy indeed, and a case for public flogging.

                                      1. re: souschef
                                        ipsedixit Aug 15, 2010 12:53 PM

                                        Really?

                                        That's a mighty strong absolute stance to take. What about cheesecake? I prefer cheesecake to be just a bit below room temp (~60F), but will be more than happy to have a "cold" cheesecake straight from the fridge. Warm cheesecake for me is blasphemy.

                                        1. re: ipsedixit
                                          alkapal Aug 15, 2010 12:54 PM

                                          you're changing the subject. nice try.

                                          1. re: alkapal
                                            ipsedixit Aug 15, 2010 12:58 PM

                                            Really? How so?

                                            souschef said the following:

                                            "Any time I am offered cake as one of the options for dessert at a restaurant I ask about the temperature at which it is served. If cold I decline it."

                                            To which I simply asked about cheesecake as a point of query.

                                            1. re: ipsedixit
                                              alkapal Aug 15, 2010 01:10 PM

                                              cheesecake is really a baked custard, where cheese predominates -- it is not a "cake" in the sense that we're talking about re serving cakes "cold."

                                              obviously, you can have your cake anyway that suits you, but it won't render its best flavor. it is the same principle with cold cheese. (as an analogy -- in a weird way --think of "highest and best use" for property.).

                                              1. re: alkapal
                                                ipsedixit Aug 15, 2010 01:14 PM

                                                No dice, alkapal.

                                                The OP specifically incl. "cheesecake" in the original query:

                                                "I know that some cakes like cheesecakes and pecan pies taste better after a day or two what more cakes taste better after a few days?"

                                                So, I think using cheesecake as a data point certainly seems fair.

                                                That said, whether you like cakes cold or warm, or whether one considers cheesecakes to be "cakes" ... at the end of the day it's really academic.

                                                After all, as long as I get my cake and eat it too, it's all good, right?

                                                1. re: ipsedixit
                                                  souschef Aug 15, 2010 01:28 PM

                                                  "After all, as long as I get my cake and eat it too, it's all good, right?"

                                                  As long as it pleases you that's all that matters. I think we'll forego the public flogging!

                                                  1. re: ipsedixit
                                                    alkapal Aug 15, 2010 01:42 PM

                                                    but this was a subthread about pound cake, not cheesecake. so, buena suerte, mi amigo.

                                                    1. re: alkapal
                                                      souschef Aug 15, 2010 02:19 PM

                                                      True, but let them eat cake any way they desire, even if it is cold pound cake, so long as it is not served that way to my pal alka and I.

                                                      Seriously though, cake served at the wrong temperature is one of my pet peeves. I am an avid baker, and frequently am asked to take birthday cakes (usually chocolate) to parties. When I arrive with the cake I am ALWAYS asked if it should go into the fridge. GAH!!!

                                            2. re: ipsedixit
                                              souschef Aug 15, 2010 01:26 PM

                                              Easy response - I don't like cheesecake, so it matters not to me how it's served :)

                                              Much as I love cheese, I really dislike cheesecake. It has a heavy texture that I have difficulty with.

                                            3. re: souschef
                                              wekick Aug 16, 2010 08:36 AM

                                              Nuking anything baked is the cardinal sin to me. Ruins the texture.

                                              1. re: wekick
                                                souschef Aug 16, 2010 10:34 AM

                                                When served cold the texture of chocolate cake is in fact already ruined. Nuking it makes the texture more acceptable. It's all relative. Try it sometime. I like chocolate cake to sit out for several hours before I eat it.

                                                I make a lot of chocolate cakes, and it annoys me when I see someone eating a cake I made when it is cold. Makes me think my effort was for nothing as you cannot taste it at its full potential when cold.

                                                1. re: souschef
                                                  buttertart Aug 16, 2010 11:19 AM

                                                  Have you ever made the chocolate cake from le Crillon (Maida Heatter's recipe)? You refrigerate it overnight and let it come to room temp before eating it. Refrigeration is necessary to set it (it's nothing but butter, eggs, and chocolate) but at room temp later, oh my goodness. (I've never seen you mention Maida Heatter, not a fan? She basically started the rage for chocolate mousse-type and fancy cakes in the US in the middle 70's. Her recipes are your kind of precise - except for not having ingredient weights.)

                                                  1. re: buttertart
                                                    souschef Aug 16, 2010 01:32 PM

                                                    I have not made Maida's recipe, but that sounds exactly like RLB's Chocolate Oblivion Truffle Torte, which I have used as a base for 2 wedding cakes and several anniversary cakes. I usually enhance the flavour by adding raspberry purée. You have to close your eyes while eating that cake. Check it out in TCB.

                                                    1. re: souschef
                                                      buttertart Aug 16, 2010 01:58 PM

                                                      I will look at them side by side.

                                                      1. re: souschef
                                                        buttertart Aug 16, 2010 05:00 PM

                                                        Hotel de Crillon 8 oz choc, 8 oz butter, 1 c sugar, 4 eggs, brownie method, water bath 1 hr 15 mins at 325 (I think it takes a bit less), cool completely to room temp, refrigerate, let come to room temp.
                                                        Choc Oblivion 16 2/3 oz choc, 1 c sug, 6 eggs, génoise method, 8" springform, 425 deg oven, bake 15 mins?
                                                        The RLB is tempting bcs no butter.

                                                        1. re: buttertart
                                                          souschef Aug 16, 2010 05:07 PM

                                                          My Cake Bible says 1 cup butter, not 1 cup sugar. It has no sugar.

                                                          And water bath.

                                                          1. re: souschef
                                                            buttertart Aug 17, 2010 06:30 AM

                                                            Oops I read it wrong. So it's "lighter" because of no sugar. Must try. Is the baking time sufficient?

                                                            1. re: buttertart
                                                              souschef Aug 17, 2010 06:36 AM

                                                              Yes, the baking time is sufficient.

                                                              1. re: souschef
                                                                buttertart Aug 17, 2010 06:50 AM

                                                                I know, RLB recipe, why did I even think of questioning it...resistance is futile...

                                                    2. re: souschef
                                                      ipsedixit Aug 16, 2010 11:41 AM

                                                      souschef,

                                                      I'm curious, do you like WARM chocolate cake?

                                                      Or are you like Goldilocks and prefer your chocolate cake not too warm and not too cold, but just in the middle somewhere (e.g. room temp)?

                                                      1. re: ipsedixit
                                                        souschef Aug 16, 2010 01:34 PM

                                                        I don't "like" warm chocolate cake. I love warm chocolate cake, especially with warm chocolate sauce and whipping cream.

                                                        1. re: souschef
                                                          buttertart Aug 16, 2010 01:58 PM

                                                          Whipping cream not whipped cream, now you're talking.

                                                      2. re: souschef
                                                        chowser Aug 16, 2010 02:12 PM

                                                        If you eat it slowly and let it come to temperature in your mouth for a few seconds, you can feel the butter and flavors emerge. Your body is warm enough to bring it to temperature quickly. Nuking baked goods destroys them, imo. Plus, they get hard so quickly. I hate eating desserts in restaurants that have been nuked.

                                                        1. re: chowser
                                                          buttertart Aug 16, 2010 02:17 PM

                                                          If there's anyone on this earth I would trust to nuke a dessert properly, it's souschef.

                                                          1. re: buttertart
                                                            souschef Aug 16, 2010 02:29 PM

                                                            Than you buttertart <bowing deeply> !

                                                          2. re: chowser
                                                            souschef Aug 16, 2010 02:37 PM

                                                            I should specify that nuking is a last act of desperation. I am always prepared to wait for my chocolate cake to come up to room temperature.

                                                            A while ago I posted a recipe for a chocolate hazelnut fig cake (picture is my current avatar). It is a very dense cake with no discernable taste when cold, and does not warm up quickly in your mouth. I hate it cold, but at room temperature it is my favourite cake, bar none. Make it and you will know exactly what I am going on about.

                                                            1. re: chowser
                                                              sbp Aug 16, 2010 04:48 PM

                                                              There's nuking and there's nuking. Sure, an H-Bomb of a chocolate cake at full power for 3 minutes will destroy it. But a tactical strike - 30% power for a minute, give or take - and there's no appreciable degradation of quality.

                                                            2. re: souschef
                                                              wekick Aug 16, 2010 02:59 PM

                                                              Unfortunatly I've had my share of cakes, pies and bread ruined by a microwave and don't care to revisit that. We recently had a cake tasting in preparation for a wedding at a bakery that only uses butter sugar and eggs -no mixes. We were admonished to make sure the cakes to room temp and they were. I used to work in a food/flavor lab and this is the common wisdom. We also had a bunch of different icings to taste. We made our choices and put the samples in the frig. We got them out later and they were even better cold. Some flavors were more intense. Think of the difference of taste between warm and cold fried chicken, warm or cold salmon or warm and warm/cold pizza. I get it that flavor compounds are released from fat at warmer temps and the mouthfeel changes but I think you can taste other flavor compounds better at lower temps ( although not ice cold).
                                                              As far as microwaving who knows what that does to delicate flavor compounds either by actual change in the molecules or loss by evaporation.
                                                              The reason it changes the texture of baked goods is it basically steams them-This is very bad for pie and bread or anything with crispness, but permanently removes moisture form all baked goods. In any case I don't think you can say a chocolate cake is ruined by being cold. It may change the taste but some may prefer that.
                                                              To each his own -MW if you like but not mine please.

                                                              1. re: wekick
                                                                souschef Aug 16, 2010 03:59 PM

                                                                Funny you mention icings, but I have the very same problem with buttercream - I hate it cold.

                                                                My point about nuking as an act of desperation seems to have been missed. I asked to have it done once at a restaurant at a business dinner, when I could not wait around for it to warm up. One of the ladies at the table asked if it mattered so much, so I asked her to taste the cake before and after. Her response was that I really knew what I was talking about. I do not routinely nuke cakes at home. That would be disrespecting the chocolate, as would serving the cake cold.

                                                                1. re: souschef
                                                                  buttertart Aug 16, 2010 04:37 PM

                                                                  I know that's what you were on about. Where's the recipe for the chocolate fig cake? My birthday is this Friday and I'm looking for something special.

                                                                  1. re: souschef
                                                                    wekick Aug 16, 2010 05:25 PM

                                                                    I'm not sure what they used for their cakes. We were choosing a bakery for a wedding and the bride actually chose another bakery.
                                                                    At home I most often make my grandmothers chocolate cake. It calls for cocoa powder-initially that was Hershey(years ago when hershey in a silver can was exotic) but now I like to change and try different cocoas that are available. I'm liking Askinosie single origin cocoa at the present time but there are quite a few to choose from. KA has the double dutch and Penzeys is good.
                                                                    For the frosting I make a ganache. I like Callebaut-not a fan of Guittard.
                                                                    My favorite cake(almost a fudge) recipe for chocolate is Julia Child's Boca Negra. Foolproof too.
                                                                    We are lucky in Missouri to have 2 micro batch single origin chocolate makers-Patrick and Askinosie. I can actually buy Patric at the farmer's market but I don't use that for cake. Askinosie has really great white chocolate and a milk chocolate that I haven't tried yet. I'm not normally a fan of milk chocolate.

                                                                    1. re: wekick
                                                                      souschef Aug 16, 2010 06:05 PM

                                                                      I like Callebaut too, but have recently discovered Felchlin, which I prefer in some cases. For tried and true recipes I tend to stick with Callebaut.

                                                    3. re: sbp
                                                      chowser Aug 15, 2010 03:34 PM

                                                      I've never had cold pound cake but I can imagine it being hard refrigerated. I meant a regular butter cake but I see that you said made w/ lot of butter so that would include pound cake. I can imagine the crumb feeling much harder with a refrigerated pound cake but I can't imagine turning down a good butter cake, cold or room temp but then again, I eat frozen butter cookies all the time, right out of the freezer.

                                                      1. re: chowser
                                                        Axalady Aug 15, 2010 03:50 PM

                                                        This has been one thing my husband and I cannot agree on (but not the only thing!). He wants his cake cold. I think refrigerating a cake ruins it. When the fats are hardened it takes away from the the mouth feel, hence it takes away from the taste. We end up with some cake saved on the counter and some in the fridge. The only cake I'll refrigerate is his birthday cake.

                                                        1. re: Axalady
                                                          sbp Aug 15, 2010 07:21 PM

                                                          Cakes which use oil for far instead of butter don't give you that mouthfeel when cold.

                                                          1. re: sbp
                                                            junglekitte Aug 16, 2010 08:04 AM

                                                            Agreed. Carrot cake (made with oil) is heavenly when served cold the day after it's been made. mmmmmm... :)

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                                                jmnewel Aug 13, 2010 10:53 AM

                                                I find that most chocolate cakes are better on the second or even third days. Store on the counter in a cake saver or covered with an inverted bowl. This assumes a frosting or glaze that does not require refrigeration.

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                                                  4Snisl Aug 13, 2010 11:00 AM

                                                  Agreed, particularly when cocoa is the main source of chocolate flavor.

                                                  1. re: jmnewel
                                                    souschef Aug 13, 2010 11:50 AM

                                                    And if the frosting or glaze requires refrigeration make sure you bring the cake to room temperature before you serve it. I hate cold chocolate cake as it does not taste as good.

                                                  2. tcamp Aug 13, 2010 11:16 AM

                                                    Another thought is to serve the cake in a bowl with milk poured over. I favor cakes with no frosting and this is my preferred way to eat almost any type. I've converted my kids too; one of them asked for his cake at a birthday party to be served in a paper cup so he could add milk.

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                                                      Emme Aug 15, 2010 04:09 PM

                                                      this is how my mom always make strawberry shortcake with those yellow cakes... she would pour milk over it first. it was awesome. i used to like to mash up the cake with the milk and whipped cream and make a ... soup... of sorts... it sounds gross, but oh so good...

                                                      1. re: Emme
                                                        souschef Aug 15, 2010 04:15 PM

                                                        Did you ever try turning it into a milkshake?

                                                        1. re: souschef
                                                          Emme Aug 15, 2010 04:33 PM

                                                          nope i liked the mushy soupy texture.

                                                          1. re: Emme
                                                            onceadaylily Aug 15, 2010 04:46 PM

                                                            Me, too. I was an adult before I discovered people *made their own* shortcakes.

                                                            I had dental surgery a few years back, and I made my boyfriend go to the store for the yellow disks and some milk. A very guilty pleasure.

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                                                      toomuchfat Aug 13, 2010 11:27 AM

                                                      Fruitcake.

                                                      Cheesecake.

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                                                        mandycat Aug 13, 2010 04:23 PM

                                                        Fruitcake made correctly (plenty of good quality dried fruit, wrapped in cheesecloth soaked in brandy or bourbon, left to meditate in a quiet, dark spot) is actually better after a couple of weeks. But very few cooks do that anymore so hardly anyone realizes what a real fruitcake is supposed to taste like.

                                                      2. Axalady Aug 13, 2010 12:51 PM

                                                        This pound cake is best a day or two old -

                                                        http://www.greenbeansnmore.com/bestmo...

                                                        1. chef chicklet Aug 13, 2010 01:51 PM

                                                          Pineapple upsidedown cake the pineapple permeats the cake and you get the heady fragrance of sweet pineapple more so than when it's first baked.
                                                          Also, Crazy Cake, or Whacky cake, it will get more fudgy.
                                                          And Carrot Cake, at least my recipe. I've never tossed a crumb of it. So good.

                                                          1. chowser Aug 13, 2010 04:19 PM

                                                            Most basic butter and oil cakes taste better w/int a couple of days of baking. If I'm keeping them more than that, I refrigerate but any more than 3-4 days, I'd freeze, in individual pieces. Fruit cakes macerated in alcohol taste better days after, sometimes months after making.

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                                                            1. re: chowser
                                                              souschef Aug 13, 2010 05:36 PM

                                                              I have a recipe for Christmas Pudding (essentially just fruit cake) that you are supposed to make a year or more before. I have not tried it yet, mainly because I don't like fruit cake. But one of these days ....

                                                              1. re: souschef
                                                                Cynsa Aug 16, 2010 08:37 PM

                                                                I ♥ Fruit Cake aka Christmas Pudding. I'm just that kinda gal - post the recipe, please, and I promise to bake it.

                                                                1. re: Cynsa
                                                                  buttertart Aug 17, 2010 06:33 AM

                                                                  I heart it too and make it (fruit/Christmas cake, not pudding) every year. Have some from 4 yrs ago that is still wonderful. Have 2 family recipes I can post if you wish.

                                                                  1. re: buttertart
                                                                    Cynsa Aug 17, 2010 07:06 AM

                                                                    yes, please post. I'm in a fruitcake frame of mind and have dried fruit and nuts in the pantry.

                                                                    1. re: Cynsa
                                                                      souschef Aug 17, 2010 07:17 AM

                                                                      I'm holding myself back from making a smartass comment in response to that post :)

                                                                      BTW the nuts should be in the freezer not the pantry.

                                                                      1. re: souschef
                                                                        Cynsa Aug 17, 2010 03:34 PM

                                                                        Just bought almonds to make more Gramercy Tavern Spiced Nuts. No room in the freezer, unless I make shrimp stock with all those shrimp shells that have been collecting, then we could have gumbo... I'd rather bake.

                                                                      2. re: Cynsa
                                                                        buttertart Aug 17, 2010 07:22 AM

                                                                        They call for candied fruit as well as raisins and dates, are you willing to go there?

                                                                        1. re: buttertart
                                                                          souschef Aug 17, 2010 07:29 AM

                                                                          Mine has a long list of ingredients as well - raisins, golden raisins, currants, etc.

                                                                          1. re: souschef
                                                                            buttertart Aug 17, 2010 07:59 AM

                                                                            Making it in quantity is a big project, took me a weekend (not constant full-on, but a couple of hours each day). There's a very nice smaller-scale one in Malgieri's "Baker's Tour" (English Teacake, with almond paste layer baked in, an attractive light fruitcake).

                                                                            1. re: buttertart
                                                                              Cynsa Aug 17, 2010 03:36 PM

                                                                              almond paste in the tube or in the can?

                                                                              1. re: buttertart
                                                                                Caitlin McGrath Aug 17, 2010 08:19 PM

                                                                                Light fruitcake with almond paste baked in - I'm a big fan of this one (I use pecans, not pine nuts, and I've switched dried cranberries for the dates, which I don't care much for): http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...

                                                                            2. re: buttertart
                                                                              Cynsa Aug 17, 2010 02:58 PM

                                                                              I've got candied fruit, but just 2 cups... and yes, I have golden raisins and currants, too.

                                                                              Here's my neighbor's recipe for her Zucchini Fruitcake:
                                                                              Yes, I have no zucchini, I have no zucchini today. No one has left it on our doorstep this summer...
                                                                              3 eggs
                                                                              1 cup vegetable oil
                                                                              2 cups brown sugar
                                                                              1 tablespoon vanilla extract
                                                                              3 cups all-purpose flour
                                                                              1 tablespoon cinnamon
                                                                              2 teaspoons baking soda
                                                                              2 teaspoons ground allspice
                                                                              1 teaspoon salt
                                                                              1 teaspoon ground nutmeg
                                                                              1 teaspoon ground cloves
                                                                              1-1/2 teaspoons baking powder
                                                                              2 cups shredded zucchini
                                                                              2 cups walnuts
                                                                              2 cups golden raisins
                                                                              1 cup currants
                                                                              2 cups candied fruit
                                                                              8 Tablespoons brandy or rum
                                                                              Combine eggs, oil, brown sugar, vanilla in electric mixer. Mix well.
                                                                              In another bowl, combine the dry ingredients. Add to the egg mixture.
                                                                              Stir in zucchini, nuts, fruit to blend together. Pour into two greased loaf pans.
                                                                              Bake 325°F for one hour + 10 minutes. While warm, spoon brandy or rum over tops. When cooled, remove from pans and wrap well. Let sit overnight.

                                                                        2. re: Cynsa
                                                                          alkapal Aug 17, 2010 06:39 AM

                                                                          i'm making the scooby-doo sound -- "wruugh?" -- upon seeing the little "heart" posted by cynsa.

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                                                                            buttertart Aug 17, 2010 06:52 AM

                                                                            Me too - must be a Mac user...not even on my character map...

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                                                                              alkapal Aug 17, 2010 07:16 AM

                                                                              i didn't find it, either. i wouldn't use it, but am curious about font and character options. i wish that i could italicize, though.

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                                                                              rworange Aug 17, 2010 01:13 PM

                                                                              I'm going to regret this ... and none of you is allowed to post smiley faces ... ipsedixit exempt because that's her avatar ... but here you go

                                                                              Here's the answer on Site Talk

                                                                              If you ♥ special characters
                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/728187

                                                                              1. re: rworange
                                                                                kattyeyes Aug 17, 2010 01:20 PM

                                                                                ►=♥=♥=♥=♥=♥=◄ Well, nifty, neato--thanks from all of us!

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                                                                                  onceadaylily Aug 17, 2010 01:34 PM

                                                                                  ♥♦☻•◘○♠♦♣

                                                                                  Alt5 is my favorite. I ♥ alt5, in fact.

                                                                                  I ♥ ♣.

                                                                                  Edited to delete the smiley face.

                                                                                  1. re: kattyeyes
                                                                                    rworange Aug 17, 2010 01:41 PM

                                                                                    I'm regretting it already ☺

                                                                                    1. re: rworange
                                                                                      alkapal Aug 18, 2010 06:12 AM

                                                                                      rw, don't be a smileycurmudgeon!

                                                                              2. re: Cynsa
                                                                                souschef Aug 17, 2010 03:08 PM

                                                                                Here it is. If you find that you have too much, please feel free to ship one to me !

                                                                                From the book "The Roux Brothers on Patisserie".

                                                                                As they say in the book, "..we keep a few from previous years so that we can enjoy the indescribably glorious taste of a 3- or 4-year-old Christmas Pudding".

                                                                                CHRISTMAS PUDDING

                                                                                INGREDIENTS
                                                                                3-1/3 cups raisins
                                                                                2-1/2 cups goldn raisins
                                                                                2-1/2 cups currants
                                                                                1-3/4 cups chopped almonds
                                                                                2-3/4 cups finely grated, shredded suet
                                                                                Zest and juice of 1 orange
                                                                                Zest and juice of 1 lemon
                                                                                1 apple, unpeeled, cored and grated
                                                                                1 carrot, peeled and grated
                                                                                4-1/2 cups fresh white breadcrumbs or brioche crumbs
                                                                                2-1/4 cups flour
                                                                                1-3/4 cups raw brown sugar
                                                                                6 eggs
                                                                                1/2 tsp salt
                                                                                1/2 tsp ground cinnamon
                                                                                1 heaped tsp ground mixed spice
                                                                                3/4 cup candied mixed peel, finely chopped
                                                                                1/2 cup candied cherries, finely chopped
                                                                                1 glass brandy, plus 2/3 cup for after the puddings are cooked
                                                                                1 bottle (scant 1-1/2 cups) of Guiness or dark beer
                                                                                1/2 cup plus 2 tbsp clarified butter, for greasing

                                                                                BRANDY SAUCE (for 10 people):
                                                                                2-1/4 cups heavy cream
                                                                                5 tbsp sugar
                                                                                1 tsp potato flour mixed with 1 tbsp milk
                                                                                Scant 1/3 cup brandy

                                                                                EQUIPMENT
                                                                                1 large mixing bowl
                                                                                4 x 3-3/4 cup china pudding basins or molds, which must be scrupulously clean
                                                                                Waxed paper
                                                                                4 circles of cheesecloth, 11 inches diameter
                                                                                Kitchen string
                                                                                Roasting pan, at least 3-1/4 inches deep
                                                                                Aluminium foil
                                                                                1 saucepan
                                                                                1 pressure cooker or steamer

                                                                                PREPARATION:
                                                                                Put all of the stuff into a mixing bowl, with the exception of 1/2 cup brandy and the clarified butter. Mix well. Cover with waxed paper and press against mixture. Refrigerate 48 hours.

                                                                                Preheat the oven to 300 degrees.

                                                                                Stir the mix with a spoon, then divide it among the 4 basing, pressing down with the spoon to compact the mix. Use a damo cloth to wipe the inside rims and outsides of the basins.

                                                                                Cut four 7-inch circles of waxed paper, bruch with clarified butter and place on puddings, pressing down to form a steamproof seal.

                                                                                Place a circle of slightly-dampened cheesecloth over each basin, pull tight, and tied with string under the rim.

                                                                                Place puddings in roasting panlined with waxed paper an pour boiling water to half the height of the basins. Cover with foil, and cut 2-inch wide hole in centre. make sure the hole is not above a pudding.

                                                                                Cook in the oven 8 hours, checking water level and replenishing with boiling water, if necessary; ensure water is always half way up basins.

                                                                                Take puddings out of roasting pan and leave in cool place 24 hours

                                                                                Storage: Remove the cheesecloth, wash, and leave to dry. Leave waxed paper in place. Clean the inside rims and outside of the basins.

                                                                                Lift waxed paper and pour 1/4 of the brandy. Replace paper to make airtight seal. Place cheesecloth over basins and tie with string. Brush with clarified butter. Keep in fridge till Christmas or longer.

                                                                                Brandy sauce: Put cream and sugar into saucepan, bring to the boil, lower heat, and reduce by a quarter. Stir in potato flour and boil 1 minute. Add brandy. Keep sauce hot without letting it boil.

                                                                                To heat puddings: Place in pressure cooker without valve or in a steamer and steam 2-2-1/2 hours.

                                                                                To Serve: Remove cheesecloth and waxed paper and unmold pudding onto shallow dish. Flame with warm brandy if desired.

                                                                                Each pudding serves 10.

                                                                                WHEW !!!

                                                                                1. re: souschef
                                                                                  Cynsa Aug 17, 2010 03:25 PM

                                                                                  I have almost 1-1/2 cups of suet in the freezer - I can do half the recipe, starting on Friday. Thank you for posting. WHEW !!!

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                                                                                    souschef Aug 17, 2010 03:30 PM

                                                                                    Please do let us know how it turns out. I have looked at this recipe for years, but have not done anything about it. Very interesting book, BTW. It has some spectacular desserts, including one called "Almeria", which I intend to make one of these days. Almonds and orange peel etc in the cake, which has buttercream, is covered with marzipan, then glazed with poured fondant. It also has some interesting pasionfruit stuff, but I priced it once. It uses so much of the stuff that I would have to take a bank loan.

                                                                                    I should mention that i recommend the book with caution as I question some of the procedures.

                                                                              3. re: souschef
                                                                                buttertart Aug 17, 2010 06:33 AM

                                                                                souschef - Christmas pud: Suet in it? Very difficult to find in NYC.

                                                                                1. re: buttertart
                                                                                  souschef Aug 17, 2010 06:39 AM

                                                                                  Yes, it does have suet in it.

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                                                                                    buttertart Aug 17, 2010 06:51 AM

                                                                                    My mom made those every year. Just what you need after a massive turkey dinner.

                                                                            3. geminigirl Aug 13, 2010 05:26 PM

                                                                              This is one of my favorites!

                                                                              http://thebittenword.typepad.com/theb...

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                                                                                sbp Aug 13, 2010 08:35 PM

                                                                                That is a great idea.

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                                                                                  buttertart Aug 14, 2010 04:11 PM

                                                                                  That's a nice blog in general, thanks!

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                                                                                  L987 Aug 13, 2010 10:10 PM

                                                                                  thnx everyone! all cakes soulds so good, im gonna try one next time I bake :)

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                                                                                    Rosemary Tagliatelle Aug 14, 2010 04:42 AM

                                                                                    This one. I ate it all:
                                                                                    http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/...

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                                                                                      weezycom Aug 14, 2010 07:18 AM

                                                                                      My aunt used to make a black walnut carrot cake with penuche frosting that she would freeze for a couple of months. The black walnut flavor was astounding after it thawed.

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                                                                                        rworange Aug 14, 2010 09:29 AM

                                                                                        Did you ever get the recipe?

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                                                                                          clamscasino Aug 14, 2010 10:18 AM

                                                                                          My mother also made a black walnut carrot cake. Not with penuche frosting though. If you can get the black walnuts, and black walnut extract, it's delicious! And if weezycom doesn't have that recipe, I do have my mother's....

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                                                                                            weezycom Aug 14, 2010 09:39 PM

                                                                                            I wish I had, but unfortunately, no.

                                                                                        2. alkapal Aug 14, 2010 02:50 PM

                                                                                          lane cake. lane cake. lane cake. the real one, with the booze marinade over about three weeks!
                                                                                          ;-).

                                                                                          i'm trying to find you a proper recipe on the net, but even southern living has some crappy recipe with a cake mix and some white boiled frosting. the coconut frosting has to be all over the cake, and in between the six awesome (split) layers of yellow cake (and NOT from a freakin' mix!).

                                                                                          ok, here is an old thread but with some good starting ideas:
                                                                                          http://members.nuvox.net/~zt.proicer/recipes/laneck.htm
                                                                                          http://www.oprah.com/food/Edna-Lewiss-Famous-Coconut-Lane-Cake
                                                                                          (the thread) http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5749...

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                                                                                          1. re: alkapal
                                                                                            tim irvine Aug 15, 2010 08:01 PM

                                                                                            My daughter gave my wife a cookbook called "Forkin' Fantastic" with a recipe for Lane Cake "Dapper Style." It is topped with candied bacon. It sounds insanely good and is on my list.

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                                                                                            Harters Aug 15, 2010 09:26 AM

                                                                                            A fruit cake (such as we Brits make for Christmas) needs several weeks of maturing.

                                                                                            1. onceadaylily Aug 15, 2010 12:56 PM

                                                                                              Every once in a great while, I make this horriblewonderful thing called 'Italian Love Cake', a chocolate cake with ricotta baked in, topped with a whipped pudding-ish concoction. Days two and three are much better than day one.

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