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New Design: Bring Back "All Activity" -- It's a Useful Feature

maria lorraine Aug 12, 2010 02:16 PM

Somehow this got left out of the new design. This is an error.

Bring it back.

I realize this omission has been discussed in other posts, but the posts are buried in with other comments about the re-design. There needs to be a separate discussion about this.

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  1. Caroline1 RE: maria lorraine Aug 12, 2010 02:20 PM

    Yes! I agree. I used it regularly and miss it very much. Pretty please with sugar on it, bring it back! Thanks.

    1. meatme RE: maria lorraine Aug 12, 2010 10:00 PM

      Ditto.

      1. alkapal RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 06:16 AM

        i was going to start the same thread, maria lorraine. i'm glad you did it. it is THAT important to have its own thread.

        here's what i have:

        i miss "all activity" very much. i used it so often for 1. getting a shortcut to my recent posts, 2. seeing which posts of mine remained, 3. checking for replies to my recent posts, specifically, & 4. seeing at a glance what other posters have been saying, and on which threads.

        please restore this feature!

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        1. re: alkapal
          maria lorraine RE: alkapal Aug 13, 2010 10:00 AM

          Thanks for your support, alkapal. I appreciate your passion on all things food.

          1. re: maria lorraine
            alkapal RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 10:25 AM

            maria, they must restore this feature. without it, i feel that i shall use the site much less.

        2. E Eto RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 09:47 AM

          In addition, what's the point of "unread posts" in the profile page? I know it replaced the old "hot posts" from Chowhound 1.0, but it is pretty useless, since it covers the entire CH boards. Does anyone even use this feature? If the user can select boards from their saved boards and apply the "unread posts" feature, that would be helpful, but as it stands now, it seems superfluous. From the user's perspective, I would nix the "unread posts" and keep "all activity". It makes more sense for how most people use the site.

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          1. re: E Eto
            rworange RE: E Eto Aug 13, 2010 11:01 AM

            If it worked like the old hot posts, it would be the part of the site where I would go.

            I like being able to see what is going on across the US and rest of the world. I like seeing what's happening in home cooking and general topics.

            Because I want a more global view of the entire site, hot posts is very important to my participation in the site. Since it stopped working correctly years ago I read less and less of Chowhound. I have neither the time nor the inclination to click on every single board one by one to see what's happening there.

          2. Miss Needle RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 10:40 AM

            This is also important when detecting possible shills. If I see a glowing recommendation for a restaurant from a poster I've never heard of, I look at their "my posts." If I see that their only 7 posts on the site are about the restaurant in question, I will ignore their rec.

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              alkapal RE: Miss Needle Aug 13, 2010 10:43 AM

              absolutely!!!

              why did they dump this feature? WHY?

              1. re: Miss Needle
                rworange RE: Miss Needle Aug 13, 2010 11:03 AM

                I hope that as well as ignoring their rec, you hit 'report; to notify mods of a possible shill.

                I wasn't a heavy user of all activity, but it was handy if I wanted to see what a particular poster I liked was up to these days without having to click on every post.

                Also, I used it occasionally to check my posts if I wanted to find out quickly where exactly it was that I made a comment which might be useful elsewhere. And yes ... occasionally as a self-moderation thing if something may have been deleted. It was a confirmation that the mods found it unacepptable and a guideline to me for future posts ... i.e. ... don't do it again ... or ... that is fine, no problem.

                Actually, I thought this would have been a feature the mods used to keep an eye on problem posters. Wrong assumption, I guess

                1. re: rworange
                  Glencora RE: rworange Aug 13, 2010 11:10 AM

                  Besides helping to identify shills (which I do report) I can get a sense of how often the poster posts, if the person is often negative, or fixated on certain issues -- in other words not a shill, but not necessarily someone I want to take seriously.

                  So, yes, please bring it back!

                2. re: Miss Needle
                  maria lorraine RE: Miss Needle Aug 13, 2010 11:56 AM

                  Jacquilynne/Chowhound Team,

                  Miss Needle makes an excellent point.

                  When a post seems suspicious -- a little too glowing of a product, resto, etc. -- checking the posters other posts is the best way to detect shill posts.

                  Moreover, Chowhound has asked hounds to report shill posts, in order to best serve
                  The Prime Directive. We can't do that if we can't read what else a poster has written, or -- to the point -- other shill posts on the same thing that reveal the poster's true intent (to market a product).

                  Another use: let's say we read a post we really like -- something strikes us about this poster's great cooking, food knowledge, history, food chemistry insight. So we click on their name to read other posts. Can't do that now.

                  Bring back the feature.

                  1. re: maria lorraine
                    kattyeyes RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 04:16 PM

                    +1, yes, please.

                  2. re: Miss Needle
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                    soupkitten RE: Miss Needle Aug 13, 2010 03:22 PM

                    i did this too. when i was in doubt about whether to report a shill to the mods it really helped clear it up if i checked the all activity and there were other shill-worthy posts about the same restaurant etc.

                    also useful to check your own work-- i admit i do this.

                    very useful to see at a glance another poster's home board, fave/recently visited restaurants for context, or to identify whether a person is a well-rounded contributor or just likes contentious NAF threads for the hell of it, or they specialize in cold-smoking fish threads on the HC board, or they have a history of going off on rants about certain subjects (just avoid, sk--learn to avoid!!!). when someone from out of town whom i don't "know" as a poster is asking for a rec i can glance at the all activity to help align the rec with type/style/price point of hometown restaurants they like/dislike.

                    all activity also was helpful when identifying brand new hounds, because some of us try to be nice to them. clicking on someone's "all activity" when they post a FAQ can cut down on the "wow everyone bit my head off for asking about pizza/hotdogs/walleye, sorry-- i'm new here and excuse me for asking" syndrome. if it's someone's very first post or they are brand new to the local board folks are going to try to welcome them and encourage them rather than post something snarky or ignore their post, we would hope.

                    getting rid of the all activity context is going to cut down on everyone playing nice. i think lots of the "older" posters used this feature a lot more than casual folks looking for a quick happy hour rec. used it more for the more serious food discussion, and to follow the "problem" threads with lots of deletions, before they wind up getting shut down. this feature made sense. i really miss it and would welcome having this feature back.

                    1. re: Miss Needle
                      meatme RE: Miss Needle Aug 13, 2010 09:36 PM

                      Exactly!

                    2. alkapal RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 11:37 AM

                      honestly, chowteam, why aren't you addressing this issue?

                      we are well-worn hounds who are telling you that we want and need this feature. why is there no response?

                      1. coll RE: maria lorraine Aug 13, 2010 01:49 PM

                        What was the heading called that you could just see what you wrote? I've been searching for that but also seems to be gone. I need that recap once in awhile.

                        1. Caroline1 RE: maria lorraine Aug 16, 2010 02:47 AM

                          Well, I suspect "All Activiry" is gone and gone forever. Why? Because it makes it far too easy for us to find out which of our posts has been deleted! I just read the thread about what to do with an abundance of avocados. I had jokingly sugested sending them to me. I've been deleted. <sigh> I'll check back later to see if this is deleted too. If it is, we will know I have discovered the reason our pleas go unanswered.

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                          1. re: Caroline1
                            alkapal RE: Caroline1 Aug 16, 2010 05:08 AM

                            i sure hope it is not gone forever, but i have not seen one peep from the "chow team" about why it is gone nor have i seen any response to our desire to have it back because of its great utility to us.

                            1. re: alkapal
                              rworange RE: alkapal Aug 16, 2010 09:04 AM

                              If you look at that endless "I hate the new release" thread,Jacquilynne writes ...
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7265...

                              "It wasn't really working well -- it was supposed to include comments from all over the site, but in reality, included comments on CHOW stories (but not comments on blogs or recipes) and Chowhound only. Until they can retool it to actually be more like it's name suggests it should be, it's been removed, and it's spot in the profile nav given up as a new home for hot posts / your unread posts."

                              I guess if it is written once, no matter how buried, it is expected that everyone reads everything and keeps notes.

                              I deleted a post of mine in that long thread, but I'll restate one thought because this is exactly another example of what I was writing about.

                              The impression I get is that Chow always gets the priority. In every single release, the changes have been to the benefit of the Chow site and Chowhound has gotten progressively worse each time.

                              Improve Chow. God bless you. However, if it works, leave the unwanted, unwelcome, untested changes on Chowhound out.

                              The changes to Chowhound have to do with how the Chow staff uses the site. I remember a reply about a problem I had with the Restaurant database and the way it listed Chowhound threads. The response I got was along the lines of "We can find things just fine". Well, yes. If you use it infrequently and you want people to post reviews on the restaurant record rather than reports on Chowhound.

                              If a spot had to be given up on the profile navigation, why not "notifications" which currently just returns an applicatiobn error. I don't even remember what was there and it seems like the info could be combined with "newsletters'

                              Let me restate a part of that quote

                              "It wasn't really working well -- but in reality, included comments on CHOW stories ... and Chowhound only."

                              And Chowhound only.

                              1. re: rworange
                                alkapal RE: rworange Aug 18, 2010 06:57 AM

                                excellent point, rw!

                                and do they think that their "chow" side is the main revenue generator? how could they tell?

                                anyway, i'll bet people searching a food topic on google get to the "chow" site more *through* chowhound than by finding any of their silly chow blogs or stories directly.

                                i'm beginning to feel like a baitfish.

                                1. re: alkapal
                                  rworange RE: alkapal Aug 18, 2010 12:30 PM

                                  I don't want to put Chow down. I like some of the articles and recipes. But the reality is just that they are more fixed and limited.

                                  So, maybe I'm incorrect, but I'm guessing that the majority of traffic comes here for the huge daily input on Chowhound. I just wish that would be considered when changes are made.

                                  When this part of the site becomes difficult to use, it drives people away. Even after a week, I'm still struggling with navigation and can't count the times I've just decided it was too much of an effort to get somewhere.

                                  1. re: rworange
                                    Melanie Wong RE: rworange Aug 18, 2010 02:27 PM

                                    For the 3+ year that I've been paying attention, Chowhound has attracted about 2/3s of the traffic. And, that's even after the migration of the Places/Restaurants & Bar feature to the Chow side. However, Chow readers are more likely to look at the advertising and that's what pays for the site.

                          2. maria lorraine RE: maria lorraine Aug 18, 2010 08:57 AM

                            Jacquilynne,

                            I do hope you address this issue. "All Activity" was very functional for me.

                            No reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater if it was not ideal. Fix it instead.

                            Take another look, please.

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                            1. re: maria lorraine
                              coll RE: maria lorraine Aug 18, 2010 11:10 AM

                              I need All Activity; if I take the time to write my thoughts, I know Chowhound technically owns them then but still, I like to sort of dwell on them occasionally.

                            2. daveena RE: maria lorraine Aug 19, 2010 10:53 PM

                              Adding my voice to the chorus. I found "All Activity" extremely useful when responding to repetitive visitor posts - I could just find my most recent response, cut, and paste.

                              I also find my ""People I Read" list useless without "All Activity" - I've added a number of people just because I like the way they write, and I used to occasionally pop in and read through their recent posts. I'm not going to read entire threads just to find their posts, though.

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                              1. re: daveena
                                meatn3 RE: daveena Aug 21, 2010 05:27 PM

                                I used it most in this fashion. I am increasingly frustrated that it is no longer available.

                              2. BobB RE: maria lorraine Aug 20, 2010 01:04 PM

                                It was also the best way for me to keep track of followups to my own non-board posts, since My Chow only shows board activity. (I know I can elect to get e-mails about follow-up postings but my Inbox is overflowing as it is).

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                                1. re: BobB
                                  Chris VR RE: BobB Aug 21, 2010 06:19 AM

                                  I don't think you can elect to get e-mails about follow-up postings. Or is that a new addition I've missed?

                                  1. re: Chris VR
                                    Melanie Wong RE: Chris VR Aug 21, 2010 08:47 AM

                                    When the site relaunched in 2006 that was an option but was soon dropped.

                                    1. re: Melanie Wong
                                      Caitlin McGrath RE: Melanie Wong Aug 21, 2010 08:18 PM

                                      This was a feature for a few years, at least. I don't comment on stories very often, so the option may have been dropped in the last year without my noticing, but there used to be a check box you could activate on a case-by-case basis.

                                2. kattyeyes RE: maria lorraine Aug 26, 2010 01:41 PM

                                  AND NOW...A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

                                  I serendipitously (!) found all activity today.

                                  Simply substitute YOUR user number for mine et voilà:

                                  http://www.chow.com/profile/249664/ac...

                                  ♥, Katty

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                                  1. re: kattyeyes
                                    BobB RE: kattyeyes Aug 26, 2010 02:03 PM

                                    Katty - you're a genius!

                                    While that link works, it inserts a bunch of superfluous text. All you really need to do is go to your My Chow page (or whatever they call it now) and in the URL field at the top of the page add /activity? after your profile number. Hit Enter to get to it, then bookmark it for easy future access.

                                    1. re: kattyeyes
                                      rworange RE: kattyeyes Aug 26, 2010 10:14 PM

                                      Well, that was being kept secret in emails between Chowhounds for fear that once Chow learned someone knew about it they would removed the option of doing it.

                                      Since this is out in the open now ...

                                      How about it Chow ... if you don't want to put the link on the page, how about providing the URL that once was the real "All Activity".

                                      What is the url format to list activity for several users at the same time? Or does any Chowhound know how to do it?

                                      This is workaround, but it only covers one user, so if several were being followed on your reading list you could see all of them.

                                    2. alkapal RE: maria lorraine Sep 12, 2010 02:08 AM

                                      WHY aren't they bringing this back??

                                      I wish they would try and communicate with us about this particular feature.

                                      Are they even TRYING to bring it back,? I couldn't tell!

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                                      1. re: alkapal
                                        rworange RE: alkapal Sep 12, 2010 05:59 AM

                                        Communicating back would go a long way. Usually the answer for no reply is "there is nothing to report".

                                        Yes there is. Either it is in the cue to be fixed and the priority is ... low (good luck with it ever getting fixed) ... medium (yeah, but it's going to be a while) ... or high (in one of the next few releases). Or, it just isn't going to happen.

                                        I really would like to know when and if navigation will be fixed. It is a month later and I find this site no easier to use and haven't read a thing on Chow since the release.

                                        That profile dash/board page makes NO sense. There are only TWO things that have specifically to do with Chow on that page ... the three tabs for recipes, top stories and videos ... and search ... which really ticks me off because when you are looking at basically a page of Chowhound information to put something in that search box and have it search Chow instead of Chowhound is annoying.

                                        More important is not being able to naviate to the boards directly from the profile page.

                                        Maybe it is the members and not the clubhouse that is important ... but if you find it difficult to get in that clubhouse ....at least my choice has more often been to walk away. Every day I use Chowhound less and less.

                                        1. re: rworange
                                          meatn3 RE: rworange Sep 12, 2010 08:05 AM

                                          I have been on much less too.

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                                        soupkitten RE: maria lorraine Sep 12, 2010 09:29 AM

                                        i'm also realizing i used to really rely very heavily on this feature and the site is much less useful/usable/interesting without it. used a lot to check the continuity of other posters who responded multiple times to same thread. used to see if i've been deleted or parti-deleted from a discussion-DOH! unfamiliar poster? i can see what kind of restaurants they like & what foods they enjoy. really useful context before responding to new posters on my home board, a person's first 6 posts are so informative about that person and their taste. also useful on the general boards with unfamiliar posters to see if they habitually post "piquing" or "trollish" comments, so i know whether to bother to respond directly.

                                        the all activity feature used to make it possible to zero in on individuals who were experts or dabblers in your own area of expertise or burgeoning interest, and take part in the discussions of these subjects where you had a shared interest. you could look at an individual poster in the context of her/his own home board and sensibility. now it's just kind of a booya with all of us thrown in together, and regional & ethnic differences are getting lost in the push toward the "generic chowhound poster." it's going to make things more uncivil, as well as less useful for seekers of the best information about specific subjects. by getting rid of this feature, the site is much more geared toward the "aimless browser" poster rather than the "serious" poster. it's beyond me why anyone would choose to "follow" a poster when it's impossible to look at that poster's "all activity." getting rid of "all activity" also makes the "follow" feature meaningless and stupid, imo-- or maybe i don't get it. srsly want "all activity" back. any word from the higher ups?

                                        1. Melanie Wong RE: maria lorraine Sep 14, 2010 10:34 AM

                                          Here's an announcement for you in the Sept 15 feature release,
                                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/734111

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                                          1. re: Melanie Wong
                                            alkapal RE: Melanie Wong Sep 14, 2010 10:41 AM

                                            SU-PERB! THANK YOU!!!!

                                            1. re: Melanie Wong
                                              Miss Needle RE: Melanie Wong Sep 14, 2010 11:27 AM

                                              To the chow folks -- big thanks for listening to our concerns!

                                              1. re: Melanie Wong
                                                maria lorraine RE: Melanie Wong Sep 21, 2010 01:37 PM

                                                Melanie always has the best 411.

                                                To Jacquilynne and the Chowhound team:
                                                This was a great example of a user identifying a hole or need in the user experience, and Chowhound addressing that need promptly. Brava!

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