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Man fakes seizure to avoid paying

Phaedrus Aug 12, 2010 09:53 AM


OK< so you try it and you get away with it once. Good for you. But to try it that many times? Tempting fate is not a good strategy. Of course, the amount of alcohol he'd consumed may have something to do with it.

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  1. duckdown RE: Phaedrus Aug 12, 2010 10:18 AM

    Been watching too many episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm? (Remember Larry when he was wearing the "heart monitor"), haha

    1. chowser RE: Phaedrus Aug 12, 2010 01:06 PM

      I wonder how much his medical bills were since he was sent to a medical center. He's stealing--why not just up and run out the door? That would be cheaper overall with the same result. Wonder if he'll have problems getting medical insurance with all those seizures on his record.

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        queencru RE: chowser Aug 12, 2010 07:55 PM

        Exactly. I fail to see how a $1000+ ER visit x4 is cheaper than paying ~$200 in restaurant tabs. Just go to the bathroom and never return to your seat. It's not that hard.

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          bookhound RE: chowser Aug 13, 2010 03:24 AM

          I have a feeling that a guy who orders, "three glasses of Tanqueray gin, two bottles of Corona beer, one Johnny Walker Black Label Scotch, one Heineken Beer and one pound of steamed shrimp" from one restaurant and "buffalo wings and nine Blue Moon draft beers" from another restaurant is very concerned with paying his medical bills or getting medical insurance. This citizen probably isn't going to spend a lot of time paying hospital bills either.

          1. re: chowser
            EWSflash RE: chowser Aug 13, 2010 07:03 PM

            Or a driver's license- those aren't granted to people with seizure disorders.

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              kprange RE: chowser Aug 16, 2010 06:58 AM

              Wow - what does that do to our insurance costs? I am sure if he can't pay bills, he doesn't have insurance. What an idiot. If he didn't have identification, how can they bill him.

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              vanierstudent RE: Phaedrus Aug 12, 2010 01:20 PM

              I work in the restaurant industry, and this kind of shit happen all the time.

              I use to work in a sushi bar, one man called us to ask for a refund. Reason: the raw fish made him sick. He only had fried, well-cooked rolls. No raw fish. When we told him we still had the bill, he just laugh and hung up.

              Today now, I'm working in a really good Vietnamese restaurant. A place that doesn't use MSG because they think it corrupt the taste of the soup, and that make Lau Han Guo (a drink made from infusion a dried fruit) from scratch everyday.

              A man tried to evade the bill by saying: I got a headache because of the MSG in the soup, wtf is wrong with it...

              The manager told him to pay,and never come back again.=)

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                nofunlatte RE: vanierstudent Aug 13, 2010 09:05 AM

                I think I heart your manager. Great response!

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                celfie RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2010 09:23 AM

                the guy's a scum bag but 18 months in prison is absolutely ludacris. Slap him with a big fine and maybe community service - but prison?!?!?!? sooooooooooooooooo stupid

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                  vday RE: celfie Aug 13, 2010 02:22 PM

                  prison's ok in my mind
                  he's created his own bad karma with 40 theft convictions (see article). . .
                  it doesn't seem he is learning - maybe he will wake up
                  sounds like he's costing everyone else lots of money and problems

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                    nofunlatte RE: vday Aug 13, 2010 03:32 PM

                    Not to mention that he's a pretty unlikely candidate to be paying a fine or restitution.

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                      celfie RE: nofunlatte Aug 13, 2010 03:58 PM

                      they can put him to work. the money spent on imprisoning this guy for 18 months is outrageous. what a messed up legal system. there are other means of punishment. for starters they could forbid him from ever returning to a restaurant, ankle bracelet to monitor his movements, community service, fines - even house arrest is better than sending this guy to prison for 18 months!!! this judge is not sensible

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                        queencru RE: celfie Aug 13, 2010 04:42 PM

                        He already has 40+ theft convictions. I'm not sure what else the court can do at this point to deter this man. Whatever has been tried in the past is clearly not working, and while it may seem that sentencing this guy to 18 months in prison is expensive, the fact is that he's racking up medical bills he won't ever pay, using up valuable hospital/medical resources that other people need, and continuing to commit crimes on what seems to be a weekly basis.

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                    kprange RE: celfie Aug 16, 2010 07:01 AM

                    Prison is a fine idea - now he will get 18 months worth of free food, and he won't have to fake one seizure. I have no problem with prison. It seems to me that we as a nation are much to lenient. He chose his path and had to know that he was doing wrong.

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                    Janet RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2010 10:37 AM

                    This type of thing makes it hard on those who are really ill. You are not believed when ill. I passed out in a hotel's ( where we were staying) restaurant. Two doctors worked on me until the ambulance arrived. The resuarant manager wouldn't let them load me in the ambulance until the bill was paid. My husband told him the room number etc. They wanted the paper work done before I could go to the hospital. Friends waved AMX cards and he got out of the way. Thankfully I was not dangerously ill..

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                      SmartCookie RE: Janet Aug 13, 2010 12:43 PM

                      A little off the subject, but I worked in a restaurant in the Mall of America when we had a tornado warning; the place was packed and everyone was evacuated to the basement.

                      After waiting it out for 90 minutes (thankfully some of us were smart enough to grab some wine) almost every patron returned to the place to pay for their meal. The manager comped EVERYTHING but most patrons wanted to at least give the servers tips for their service. Some people are very cool.

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                        Phaedrus RE: SmartCookie Aug 13, 2010 02:08 PM

                        I think you just defined the two extremes of the spread of humanity. This guy is at one end and those customers are at the other end.

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                          chowser RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2010 04:01 PM

                          Thankfully, the faker is in the minority and most people are honest, as in Smartcookie's story. It's when we start reading in the media about people who are honest that we should start worrying.

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                            EWSflash RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2010 07:13 PM

                            That's right. I'm so glad you posted that, smartcookie. It's a nice offset to the OP's subject's behavior.

                          2. re: SmartCookie
                            pdxgastro RE: SmartCookie Aug 15, 2010 11:20 PM

                            Oh that is Minnesota for you. :-)

                          3. re: Janet
                            EWSflash RE: Janet Aug 13, 2010 07:10 PM

                            Janet, if you read the posts above you you'll see why restaurants get that way. Yours is a reply to the OP.

                          4. Beach Chick RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2010 04:04 PM

                            Look up 'DirtBag Weasel' in the dictionary and you'll find this tools picture.

                            1. Rmis32 RE: Phaedrus Aug 18, 2010 10:51 AM

                              I'm laughing hysterically, thinking about how he's going to react to prison food.

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                                chowser RE: Rmis32 Aug 18, 2010 12:42 PM

                                It's free! He might just choose to stay on after his time is over. Nothing to fake.

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                                  Rmis32 RE: chowser Aug 18, 2010 01:44 PM

                                  Yeah, or he might have a real seizure this time.

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