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Hells Kitchen Season finale tonight - Who is your pick? Spoilers I'm sure. :)

jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 10:18 AM

So... we've come down to Holly and Jay. Tonight's finale looks like an UNEXPECTED AND SHOCKING battle, with NEVER BEFORE SEEN drama! lol

who's your money on?

I'm having a hard time choosing... maybe caring? who wins. But... maybe... hmmm

I'd like to see Holly take it just because she's female, even tho I think Jay's a better chef. ;)

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    celfie RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 11:39 AM

    jay is too ugly to win. i would have loved if in a triumphant move, he decided his stupid blue hair is too embarassing for the prized position and then dyed it black or something

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    1. re: celfie
      JayEsBee RE: celfie Aug 10, 2010 03:41 PM

      My recollection is that the Attractive Female Contestants seem to get surprisingly far on this show*, though I do think Holli has more chops than past AFCs. I do think Jay is a little more skilled and seasoned, as demonstrated by his turn at the pass last week. I think Jay "deserves" it a tiny bit more, but I guess I'm rooting for Holli.

      *it's possible I'm generalizing from the season where the personal chef/nanny, Bonnie, who was very cute, inexplicably made it to the final two. Was that the year Rock won? All the HK seasons tend to swirl together for me.

    2. C. Hamster RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 01:41 PM

      My prediction is that:


      Since Holly's new olive oil line and upcoming cookbook will obviously take hits if she loses, then maybe I want Jaybird to win. Or not. I really don't care.

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        jujuthomas RE: C. Hamster Aug 10, 2010 03:37 PM

        LOL CH! :) Thanks for that prediction!

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          LindaWhit RE: C. Hamster Aug 10, 2010 04:52 PM

          By George, I think you've got it. :-)

          And as I've said before - someone posted something on Jason's (open to all) FB page last week that I think *might* reveal who actually wins it.

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            LindaWhit RE: LindaWhit Aug 10, 2010 06:02 PM

            Yup - that person who posted on Jay's HK FB page was right! That person said "Good luck bro, but my friend told me about the out come." (posted on Aug. 3rd)

            I kinda figured that Holli had won when I read that.

            But JAYSUS H. KEERIST! He says "I'm gonna wipe the floor with Holli's face" and then saying he wants sleep with her??? And it ends with "Hopefully I can get her pants off tonight?"


        2. Withnail42 RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 05:23 PM

          Given HK history I'm betting Holi. That and that fact that they are playing up the whole single (even though the father is around) thing.

          That being said I'm surprised that she even made it to the final. Then again given HK's history...

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            smartie RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 06:15 PM

            drum roll ............................ and it's Holli.

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            1. re: smartie
              jujuthomas RE: smartie Aug 10, 2010 06:18 PM

              and did you see broken arm dave from last season in the audience? threw me for a minute, lol!

            2. AmblerGirl RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 06:36 PM

              I know this whole show is contrived and I stopped caring a while ago but Holli's win actually brought a tear to my eye... must have been all of the footage of her son...

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                jujuthomas RE: AmblerGirl Aug 11, 2010 05:35 AM

                her son really was SUCH a cutie!

                I was really glad they didn't drag the finale out to 2 episodes like they did either last season or the one before. :)

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                  coney with everything RE: jujuthomas Aug 11, 2010 05:38 AM

                  "I was really glad they didn't drag the finale out to 2 episodes like they did either last season or the one before. :)"

                  Yes, that was a mercy, wasn't it?

                  Glad Holli won. The fact that she didn't display the arrogant attitude of Blue Jay (hopefully blue balls, LOL) and Ben indicates she'd be able to accept guidance and continue to become better.

                  That said, do we really think she'll be the CHEF at the Savoy?

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                    LindaWhit RE: coney with everything Aug 11, 2010 05:42 AM

                    Well, according to a comment Jason made on his HK FB page re: hooking up with Holli, looks like those blue balls didn't last. @@

                    And no - none of the winners of HK have ever been the "head chef" at any of the GR restaurants.

              2. Withnail42 RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2010 07:18 PM

                Still didn't get why Holi got to stay over Ben.

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                  LindaWhit RE: Withnail42 Aug 10, 2010 07:24 PM

                  And what a surprise - we heard Ben say YET again that he was the only one to challenge Jay in the finale and he was better than Holli. @@

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                    TheFoodEater RE: LindaWhit Aug 10, 2010 09:38 PM

                    The only reason Ben thought he was better than holli was that Ben is a sexist ass.

                    I hope the people Ben's daughter grows up and work with have a less sexist attitude than Ben does, for her sake.

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                      chris2269 RE: TheFoodEater Aug 10, 2010 11:28 PM

                      I agree only episode I have watched this season, but he came off pretty strong as "I will not lose to a women" vs he's the better Chef.

                  2. re: Withnail42
                    Joanie RE: Withnail42 Aug 11, 2010 04:14 AM

                    I agree, there was zero talk about who voted for what, who did what better. All Ramsay said was Holli deserved it cuz she came so far. That didn't make sense. From just watching the show, I thought Jay won cuz his kitchen seemed to run better overall and the food seemed to be liked by all (and he won the first part of the nite). Lame. Don't other people think the win seemed pretty arbitrary?

                    I actually thought Ben was good tonite, working his ass off to help Jason. Of course he still had a few asshole comments but that's to be expected.

                    1. re: Joanie
                      junescook RE: Joanie Aug 11, 2010 04:46 AM

                      We were somewhat bewildered by it.

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                        smartie RE: junescook Aug 11, 2010 04:55 AM

                        we only see the edited parts remember and what was filmed. Maybe cameras were off at other times.

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                          Firegoat RE: smartie Aug 11, 2010 05:09 AM

                          I think anyone trying to do a fine dining menu with Siobhan as a cook deserved to win. I noticed Ben's reaction when Holli won. Still a douche til the end, Ben? Oui!

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                            LindaWhit RE: Firegoat Aug 11, 2010 05:38 AM

                            Still a douche til the end, Ben? Oui!


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                        LindaWhit RE: Joanie Aug 11, 2010 05:38 AM

                        I wonder if the comment cards from the dining guests have anything to do with it? Or if it's just GR saying "Holli improved the most so she wins."

                        However, keep in mind that GR always looks for someone to mold into what he wants. Holli, at age 24, is pliable. Jason, at age 32, who's been a chef for 12-14 years, perhaps not so pliant.

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                          chowser RE: Joanie Aug 11, 2010 05:45 AM

                          The previous two seasons winners also won because they had come the farthest and were most improved, not because they were better chefs. LOL, my son said maybe Ramsay just told someone to unlock one random door because it did seem so arbitrary.

                          The question is, how would Ben have responded if he had worked for Holli? I doubt he'd have been as supportive. I felt bad for Holli for her staff but think Jay (who offended me more and more as the season went on) had better people skills in dealing with his people.

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                            Withnail42 RE: Joanie Aug 11, 2010 05:59 AM

                            Personally I think it was nothing more than a PR move. The decision process is deliberately kept vague so that they can chose who they want. Now Ramsay can be seen giving the 'poor (cute) single mother' an opportunity of a life time; as opposed to the better chef who happens to be a chubby disheveled guy with blue hair. As soon as they started pushing the fact that she had kid and that was who she was doing for it was clear that the fix was in. Although I’m not too sure how a 24 year old banquet chef wound up with a cookbook deal and an olive oil line before the show even started.

                            Ramsay could use some good press. He created a big stir in Australia with some uncalled for sexist comments. There were rumors of an affair. His business is reportedly having all sorts of troubles.

                            Ben may have been sexist real or edited but he still seemed like a much better cook. As for the ‘oui chef’ thing I know a number of people who do it. It comes from their training or the kitchen they worked in required it. Saying becomes second nature. They don’t think of it.

                            1. re: Withnail42
                              LindaWhit RE: Withnail42 Aug 11, 2010 06:03 AM

                              "Although I’m not too sure how a 24 year old banquet chef wound up with a cookbook deal and an olive oil line before the show even started."
                              Keep in mind - this season was filmed in the winter of 2009. Holli has had a year and a half to promote that cookbook and olive oil line. While I'm sure contractual agreements enforce that she can't say she won, I'm sure she's able to at least say "she did well." I know Jason has said that.

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                                chowser RE: Withnail42 Aug 11, 2010 07:11 AM

                                As I was saying, even in the past two seasons, Ramsay picked the lesser cook (Paula lost to Danny, Kevin lost to Danny look alike--both with long hair, droopy eyes). In the final edits, both Danny and the Danny look alike didn't seem to perform as well as the trained chefs, as seemed the case w/ Holli and Jay. I don't think it's an appearance thing. He seems to have picked the underdog who didn't rise to the final challenge as well.

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                                  junescook RE: chowser Aug 11, 2010 07:28 AM

                                  So whatever happened to the"winners"?

                                  1. re: junescook
                                    LindaWhit RE: junescook Aug 13, 2010 06:43 AM

                                    junescook - you can find out what some of them did during/after their seasons at this link (click on the winners' names, as they're not all updated in this chart):


                              2. re: Joanie
                                vorpal RE: Joanie Aug 16, 2010 07:51 PM

                                It made sense to me: my understanding was that GR said that Holli basically came in undisciplined and untrained, and her learning and ability to grow far surpassed everyone else: she made remarkable progress during her short time in HK. Sure, Jay is incredibly talented, but Holli's progress indicates that she has the capability to rise up to and overcome many challenges.

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                                  Withnail42 RE: vorpal Aug 17, 2010 06:19 PM

                                  As a viewer we are lead to believe the the winner is supposed to step up and into the role of running a professional kitchen. (Although it seems the prizes never quite live up to the hype.) Not someone who is going to go in and be a quick learner because the have 'come so far.'

                                  Still seems like very vague reasoning. Which I'm sure is just how they like it.

                            2. LindaWhit RE: jujuthomas Aug 11, 2010 10:20 AM

                              An article in the Boston Globe/Boston.com re: last night at Gargoyles:


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                                junescook RE: LindaWhit Aug 11, 2010 02:00 PM

                                I love that last "final moment" picture!

                                1. re: junescook
                                  LindaWhit RE: junescook Aug 11, 2010 02:02 PM

                                  Spiky hair and all. I think it's hysterical that the Globe actually captioned the picture saying Holli was on the left. Ya THINK? :-)

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                                    junescook RE: LindaWhit Aug 11, 2010 02:09 PM

                                    They feel the same way about their sox up there too.

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                                      LindaWhit RE: junescook Aug 11, 2010 05:04 PM


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                                        junescook RE: LindaWhit Aug 12, 2010 08:16 AM

                                        That everybody else is...oh never mind...

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                                          LindaWhit RE: junescook Aug 12, 2010 08:21 AM

                                          :::shrugging::: Your comment about feeling the same way about the Sox really doesn't make sense at it applies to Jay's spiky hair or Globe captioning, unless I'm completely missing something.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                            junescook RE: LindaWhit Aug 12, 2010 09:45 AM

                                            I was referring to their depiction of their local boy's ooponent as what I thought looked like a witch.

                                2. re: LindaWhit
                                  jody RE: LindaWhit Aug 12, 2010 09:14 AM

                                  The viewing party at Gargoyles was fun. Tons of people in a tent out back. Mini lobster rolls, ribs, kobe beef sliders, hanger steak etc. was brought out continually starting at 5:30.
                                  Jay(son) was there along with a couple of other chefs from the show (Salvatore and Ed). Also his parents. (and Ken Oringer lurking around). Jason seemed in high spirits so it was a bit of a surprise when he lost.

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                                    harrie RE: jody Aug 12, 2010 10:55 AM

                                    Jason might have been in high spirits the way that Udo, the chef in the movie Dinner Rush, gets a little excited when there's a murder in his restaurant because it means more publicity for the place. Even if he lost, Jason's place will probably have a nice uptick in business, which means more money in the pockets.

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                                  Chimayo Joe RE: jujuthomas Aug 11, 2010 12:26 PM

                                  Is there going to be another season of this show? I didn't watch much of this one, but Ramsay seemed like he wasn't into it as much as usual to me.

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                                    dmckean RE: Chimayo Joe Aug 11, 2010 12:48 PM

                                    I'm betting he was working on his new show at the time. I think he only came along for one of the rewards this year.

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                                      Jwsel RE: Chimayo Joe Aug 11, 2010 04:07 PM

                                      There is another season filmed. Josiah Citrin told me that they filmed a reward meal at Melisse for the next season.

                                      I actually was surprised by Holli's menu. It seemed far more accomplished in terms of technique and skill -- the amuse with the celery foam, the foie gras, and the wagyu beef -- than her "banquet chef" title would suggest. Jay's menu also looked fairly accomplished, and more consistent with what you might find at high-end LA restaurants, whereas most of the regular Hell's Kitchen menu strikes me as rather pedestrian. I wonder if part of the problem is that the show gives the competitors so little opportunity to demonstrate their abilities beyond cooking Ramsay's dishes on the line that it is hard to tell which, if any, chefs have actual talent.

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                                        Sooeygun RE: Chimayo Joe Aug 12, 2010 06:49 AM

                                        I think season 8 supposed to start airing on September 22.

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                                          Joanie RE: Sooeygun Aug 13, 2010 06:24 AM

                                          I hope they don't have Boston people on so I feel forced to watch it.

                                      2. C. Hamster RE: jujuthomas Aug 11, 2010 01:07 PM

                                        Just saw it on Hulu and have to say that it was the MOST BORING finale in hells kitchen history

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                                          jujuthomas RE: C. Hamster Aug 11, 2010 03:32 PM

                                          it really was!

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                                          Muskrat RE: jujuthomas Aug 11, 2010 05:28 PM

                                          Jay is such a complete jerk, I'd be embarrassed to have him in my employ, let alone having to work with/for him.

                                          I'm not privy to Ramsey's thinking, but I'd hope that was at least part of it. (On the other hand, that's a lot of responsibility for someone as young as Holli).

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                                            TheFoodEater RE: Muskrat Aug 11, 2010 11:30 PM

                                            her responsibility will be to keep learning and growing. she won't be head chef, she'll be a sous chef or some such. I don't think a single hell's kitchen winner ended up with the advertised head chefs job (I may be wrong about this).

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                                            waldrons RE: jujuthomas Aug 11, 2010 08:37 PM

                                            I was thinking maybe Holli won because she did the most with the least-competent kitchen staff.

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                                              chowser RE: waldrons Aug 12, 2010 05:35 AM

                                              LOL, when Autumn is your strongest player, you'd do well just to finish!

                                            2. HabaneroJane RE: jujuthomas Aug 13, 2010 07:42 AM

                                              I was away and just watched it last night on the DVR. Wow, finally, something worth watching! A surprise ending. I was happy with either Holli or Jay, but with Holli as the underdog winning, it was worth the entire torturous (albeit sped up) season it was! I was thrilled when Ben got booted. Did anyone notice Dave, the winner from last season, in the crowd when the winner was announced? Wonder what happened to him after Olympics were over..is he still in Vancouver?

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                                              1. re: HabaneroJane
                                                LindaWhit RE: HabaneroJane Aug 13, 2010 08:05 AM

                                                No - he left that restaurant after a few months, according to the Wikipedia link, due to "other responsibilities" or something like that.

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