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HOTTEST hot pepper for sale at Astoria Bodega

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fotaq Aug 9, 2010 04:58 PM

The generally unremarkable Bangladeshi (or Indian, or Pakistani) Bodega on 31st Street just north of the 30 Ave Subway Stop (east side of street) -- which does, finally sell beer -- has some of the ab-so-lute-ly hottest peppers for sale. Last night they were laid out on a Hindi newspaper by the register. Fifty cents each. "They better be hot," said, I, with attitude. Then I bit just the teeniest little tip of the end of one.

Wow! I've never had anything like it (and this despite the fact I buy random hot pepper I come across)

I've since identified this crazy pepper as Bhut Jolokia.

Buy them while you can. But be careful. No joke.

  1. egit Aug 10, 2010 08:42 AM

    This is also not a joke: the Indian Army is working on "weaponizing" them to use as a non-lethal crowd supressant. Or maybe it's the US Army, I'm not sure.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/...

    But yeah, these things are no joke.

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      EricMM Aug 10, 2010 03:10 PM

      I grow them! I grew them 2 years ago...gave most of them away..these are POWERFUL peppers. For a typical dish I would cut out the seeds, toss them into my curry/chili/etc for no more than 5 minutes. Gave me the maximum amount of heat for me...too strong for wife and kids. I grew both bhut and bih jolokias. same heat, bih's are smaller. Last year was unsuccessful...the cool rainy June ruined them. This year is a banner pepper year. In addition to the other jolokia's, I'm growing yellow ones..seem less hot, more along habanero lines...chocolate, which to me is just a large habanero...same flavor and heat. Also Trinidad scorpions, 7 pot, and black congo habanero. I haven't sampled most of them yet...there is only so much heat my family takes.

      1. re: EricMM
        bushwickgirl Aug 11, 2010 10:15 PM

        "there is only so much heat my family takes." Jeez, with what you grow, it seems like you're far above and beyond the family norm in the heat department.;-))

        Interesting post, nevertheless. I hadn't heard of the black Congo, sounds ominous somehow. There was a recent thead about habs vs scotch bonnets identification, with a mention that it's tough to find the Jolokia in NYC. Now I know where I can.

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          tex.s.toast Aug 12, 2010 07:25 AM

          im fairly certain that kalustyans carries them, dried.

          1. re: tex.s.toast
            bushwickgirl Aug 13, 2010 01:31 AM

            That Queens location is not far from me. But I'm not sure if I'll go there at 1 am on a Sunday night, as the OP did.;)

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      JFores Aug 12, 2010 01:35 PM

      Are these the red ones or the green ones? If it's green nagas then those are extremely common and can be had at virtually any Bangladeshi grocery store in New York if you ask for them. They tend to keep them under the counter wrapped in newspaper if they're not in a little basket on the counter. However, if they're red, then it would be the first time I have ever seen one of those in the US.

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        fotaq Aug 13, 2010 12:52 AM

        They had both green and red. I bought two and two.

        But I went back the bodega a few days ago and asked if they had any more peppers. The guy had absolutely no idea what i was talking about and looked at me like I was crazy.

        It was about 1am on a Sunday night when I bought them. So I might try and go back at the same time and see if the same guy is working. I mean, I'm not crazy. I did see them. I did buy them. I still have them!

        My Indian friend who loves them says when you cook with them, you leave them whole and let them simmer with the dish. Then you don't eat them.

        1. re: fotaq
          squid kun Aug 13, 2010 02:05 AM

          Is this place called Smart Choice? I dropped by Thursday and got the same response. The guy pointed me instead toward the bags of chile powder on the shelves. I figure the Indian army got to him and he's not supposed to talk about it.

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          2855 31st St, Queens, NY 11102

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            fotaq Aug 15, 2010 07:27 PM

            Yes. Smart Choice.

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            Smart Choice
            2855 31st St, Queens, NY 11102

          2. re: fotaq
            EricMM Aug 13, 2010 07:52 AM

            That's exactly what you do. I split them, remove the seeds, then toss them in. I leave them 5-10 minutes, then remove them. Last night I made a chili with my largest yellow bhut jolokia. Removed half after 10 minutes, half after 15. Came out very comfortably hot. I think the yellows are a little less hot than the usual red jolokias, but the yellow color makes them easier to spot when its time to remove them.. Also made guacamole with a large congo black habanero. The guacamole was much hotter than the chili...but then again I used the pepper raw and blended in. It was delicious.....

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              fotaq Aug 15, 2010 07:11 PM

              They're back! It was the same guy working as last Sunday night. But he insisted they were not *his* peppers and should always be there. The bag was filled with red peppers (and a few green). But isn't the color just a matter for time with green turning to red.

              The guys there are indeed Bangladeshi. And the name he used is Naga Morich. He did not know it by the Indian, "bhut jolokia."

              1. re: fotaq
                EricMM Aug 16, 2010 02:04 PM

                Naga morich is a different pepper from Bhut Jolokia. I am growing it this year. At first I believed it was synonymous with Bih jolokia, the smaller pepper, but apparently it isn't. Its smaller than bhut jolokia, slightly larger than bih jolokia. However, all the Naga chilies are in the same group of super-hot peppers, so any differences would be minimal...like comparing habanero's, scotch bonnets, and carribean reds. (There is a mild habanero type sometimes sold as scotch bonnet...but it is much smaller and very mild, but fruity...good for salads.)

          3. lambretta76 Aug 16, 2010 05:32 PM

            Are these also called "ghost" chiles? If so, they were available at Brooklyn Kitchen Labs, but I think at $5 per dried chile or at least $5 for a small paper packet of dried chiles. I wouldn't recommend swinging by without calling, but they did have a bunch of them at one point.

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            1. re: lambretta76
              EricMM Aug 17, 2010 08:16 AM

              Yes. Naga chilies such as jolokia's are also called ghost chilies.

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                bushwickgirl Aug 17, 2010 09:37 AM

                Did you catch Adam Richman of Man vs. Food fame consume, now I don't remember whether it was a sauce seasoned with the Jolokia or the pepper was actually in the dish; no matter, he was quite overwhelmed by the heat.

                1. re: bushwickgirl
                  EricMM Aug 17, 2010 02:43 PM

                  Yes I saw that show...they were called ghost chilies, and I think his dish contained not just jolokia's but cayenne and other chilies. Wouldn't even be noticeable once jolokia is added. Wasteful....but then again, that seems to be the point of that show.

                  1. re: EricMM
                    EricMM Aug 18, 2010 12:20 PM

                    I put my jolokia's to good use. We got take-out from a local Indian restaurant near me. My family likes it, I find it bland. So I just took my smallest jolokia...cut off the bottom half, and minced it. Just the tiniest piece added to a mouthful of daal or lamb curry made all the difference in the world!

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                      phantomdoc Aug 24, 2010 10:52 AM

                      Adam went to Brickhouse on 6th street between 1st snf 2nd Ave.
                      Love the show It's like Diners Drive in's and Dives meets Jackass!

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                        jinx Aug 24, 2010 11:35 AM

                        A stand had these for sale, packaged, this weekend at Brooklyn Flea but I can't remember the name of the company. I didn't dare to taste them ;)

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                        176 Lafayette Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11238

                        1. re: jinx
                          EricMM Aug 25, 2010 09:06 AM

                          I'm going to make a separate post on the Home Cooking section about my painful experience last night using a chocolate bhut jolokia....be very careful with these peppers!

              2. squid kun Sep 1, 2011 10:58 AM

                Ghost chiles have turned up at, of all places, Agata & Valentina, the fancy uptown grocery (http://www.chow.com/restaurants/92387... ). From its Facebook page: "This is exciting: We've just gotten a few cases of fresh Ghost Chilis, or Bhut Jolokia. This is the hottest pepper EVER grown, folks! On the Scoville Scale (the scientific measure of spiciness) it's fully twice as spicy as the spiciest habanero. If you can handle a seriously spicy kick, this is the chili for you! (Tip: Always wear gloves when handling these powerful peppers.)"

                That was a few weeks ago, so I'd call before going there.

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                1. re: squid kun
                  EricMM Sep 1, 2011 01:11 PM

                  Its not the hottest anymore. Some guy in Britain, of all places, has bred a new pepper (from bhut jolokia and some other hotties) that is something like 1.5 million on the Scoville scale. Meanwhile, my own crop of various types of jolokia, 7 pot, trinidad scorpion, etc is coming in pretty heavy.

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                    squid kun Sep 1, 2011 01:30 PM

                    It can take a while for the latest chile news to reach the Upper East Side.

                2. Eggsactley Sep 4, 2011 01:02 PM

                  Staten Island grown Bhut Jolokia

                   
                   
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