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Where Can I Get Crappy Fake Mexican Food?

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mzhao Aug 4, 2010 12:26 PM

This might sound weird, but I am looking for the cheap, far from authentic Mexcian food that I grew up with.

Down where I live in the South, EVERY Mexcian restaurant has the same menu. You basically either order by combination number, lunch special, or a la carte.

The food is the same in every place. They have quesadillas, fajitas, chimichangas, burritos, enchiladas, tacos, and a few other slightly more authentic dishes. You can order anything with rice and refried beans.

Right when you sit down, they bring chips and salsa to the table. The decor is tacky, and almost nothing costs over 12 dollars. Lunch is 6 dollars max.

I can't find a single place in Philly that is like this. All the Mexican or TexMex food here is either fancy and authentic or "fresh" and fast like Chipotle. These both are super tasty, but I don't want authentic or fresh or good quality. I want cheese dip and a chicken quesadilla that tastes SO much better than it should.

Is there any place I can find this??

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    Philly Ray RE: mzhao Aug 4, 2010 12:36 PM

    Taco Bell

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      barryg RE: mzhao Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM

      Is El Azteca on Chestnut still open? That place was like that.

      Mad4Mex in West Philly fits the bill. I think it's seriously bad; the ingredients are shit, the dips taste like they were made a week ago, and the margaritas are pre-mixed (with the tequila, even). But I guess that is what you are looking for? Somehow they manage to keep an excellent beer list, though.

      Also you should try Las Bugambilias on South Street. It is a bit better and more authentic than what you are describing, but has a lot of overlap with those kind of menu items and is very affordable. The enchiladas are great.

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        Buckethead RE: barryg Aug 4, 2010 01:02 PM

        Mad Mex is still around? I agree, it's bad. I thought they closed.

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          Ali RE: Buckethead Aug 4, 2010 01:15 PM

          Still around. I was just there this past Saturday! They make good waffle fries, and my margaritas have rarely been premixed (I tend to order mine straight up). Also, the beer list, as mentioned, is respectable, and the tequila selection is surprisingly not crappy.

          mzhao - I know exactly the kind of mexican place you're talking about! They're all over the midwest where I'm from, too. Totally crappy mom-and-pop type shops but awesome nonetheless. Unfortunately, I've never seen anything like that around here (but I'm mostly stuck within the regions of wherever SEPTA takes me). El Azteca is probably as close as you're going to get.

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            barryg RE: Ali Aug 4, 2010 02:26 PM

            Maybe only the frozen margaritas are premixed. I've gone there with someone who doesn't drink and when he asked for a virgin margarita they couldn't make it.

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          mazza3 RE: barryg Aug 4, 2010 01:12 PM

          i think el azteca is still there and is probably the best bet. las bugambilias is way too authentic for this me thinks....

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            truman RE: mazza3 Aug 24, 2010 02:36 PM

            Is the El Azteca on Chestnut related to the El Azteca in Mt Laurel, NJ? That's our tried-and-true, hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurant and would totally fit the OP's criteria. We've seen the city location on some trips to Jones and always wondered if they were siblings, cousins, or just random strangers with the same name...

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          Bob Loblaw RE: mzhao Aug 4, 2010 01:23 PM

          I like Mad for Mex. It's not gourmet, but doesn't pretend to be.

          I like el fuego more - smaller menu, though - it's basically a burrito place.

          i lived in the Bay Area for a few years. Burrito places like that are all over the place. The food at El Fuego would have been fine for a neighborhood place. Not something to rave about, but fine.
          The prices, otoh... I do miss the big burrito at $3.75.

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            barryg RE: mzhao Aug 4, 2010 03:34 PM

            Some other bad Mexican restaurants in CC: Mission Grill, Mexican Post (two locations).

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              PhillyA RE: barryg Aug 4, 2010 04:26 PM

              I'm from the south, and I know the places you mean. Fantastic, in a totally crap-food way.

              El Azteca & Mexican post are definitely the closest I've seen here, although they don't quite fit the bill.

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                cwdonald RE: PhillyA Aug 4, 2010 05:31 PM

                What about Mexican Post? Really sounds like the on the border or chi chis chain food you are looking for.

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              LPhila RE: mzhao Aug 4, 2010 06:24 PM

              Mexican Post, for sure! The one at Second and Chestnut will likely also have the ambiance of the places you remember.

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              3100 Naamans Rd Ste 14, Wilmington, DE 19810

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                PattiCakes RE: LPhila Aug 4, 2010 07:02 PM

                Are you in Center City or in the burbs? If so, where?

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                lawgirl3278 RE: mzhao Aug 5, 2010 09:32 AM

                Definitely Mexican Post!

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                3100 Naamans Rd Ste 14, Wilmington, DE 19810

                1. bluehensfan RE: mzhao Aug 5, 2010 10:22 AM

                  There's actually an entire chain in Delaware that fits the bill... http://authenticmex.com/restaurants/
                  You know you're in trouble when one of the lunch specials is called "Speedy Gonzales."

                  But why travel for bad food? Just go to the Mexican Post. (Even have one in DE!

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                  3100 Naamans Rd Ste 14, Wilmington, DE 19810

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                    jba1216 RE: bluehensfan Aug 5, 2010 10:58 AM

                    try Plaza Azteca in Plymouth Meeting. It's a chain, apparently, but it's the only one I've ever seen. Not good at all...but it's cheap and there's plenty of combo meals with rice and beans.

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                      paychecktoday RE: jba1216 Aug 6, 2010 12:56 PM

                      I would disagree about the food not being good. I've had all sorts of mexican at almost all the mexican places around the tri-state area from Taqueria Moroleon in Kennett Square/Avondale to little hole in the wall spots like Don Memos and the other one next to it in Upper Darby. Plaza Azteca is nowhere close to being horrible.

                      But I do agree it not being authentic as all the other ones. Very tacky and cheap

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                        mikerichi RE: paychecktoday Aug 19, 2010 01:26 AM

                        I agree. I've been there a couple times with a group and didn't have high expectations since it's a chain Tex-Mex place, but I was pleasantly surprised.

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                      mzhao RE: bluehensfan Aug 18, 2010 06:09 AM

                      Haha, Speedy Gonzales is actually on EVERY single Mexican restaurant lunch menu in my town. I don't even have to One enchilada, one taco, choice of rice or beans. I don't even have to look at the menu to tell you that. If they've got that, then this is EXACTLY the place I am looking for. Thanks!

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                        bluehensfan RE: mzhao Aug 18, 2010 09:19 AM

                        Do let us know if it's as bad as I remember! :)

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                        RC51Mike RE: bluehensfan Aug 18, 2010 11:08 AM

                        Not exactly on topic but have you been to Taco Rivera on Rt. 273 just east of Airport Rd. Or, as I like to call it, Casa de Wells Cargo. By my not very well developed palate they serve up some good and cheap Mexican food.

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                        grlwhoeats RE: mzhao Aug 5, 2010 12:08 PM

                        Try Rey Azteca- 80 York Road, Warminster. Sup[er cheap, really tasty, sounds like just what you're looking for. I'm pretty sure they are still BYOB, but they may have changed since last I was there.

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                          PattiCakes RE: grlwhoeats Aug 5, 2010 01:48 PM

                          Rey Azteca! That's the place I was going to recommend, grlwhoeats! Just didn't know if that was in mzhao's traveling range. Perfect for what he/she is craving.

                          There are also a number of Mexican places in Norristown, but they might be too authentic. Taqueria Michoacana comes to mind.

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                            VTRP RE: PattiCakes Aug 5, 2010 02:51 PM

                            Most of the places in norristown, as hole-in-the-wall as they may be, are pretty authentic, i concur with PattiCakes. Taqueria Michoacana is definately NOT crappy mexican food. (beef tounge tacos are delish)
                            La Azteca over in plymouth meeting and the other hand, certainly is.

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                              yams69 RE: PattiCakes Aug 14, 2010 05:37 PM

                              Thumbs up for Rey Azteca. It's the closest thing I've found up here to the Mexican restaurants I grew up with in Texas. I just don't like seeing it show up in a "crappy fake Mexican food" thread, though; it's always busy whenever we've been there, the menu is extensive, and the food is good and inexpensive. That said, they (and at least one other Mexican place up here) make crunchy sopapillas. What's the deal with that?!

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                            restless RE: mzhao Aug 13, 2010 11:46 AM

                            I adore Las Margaritas in NE Philly, Blvd. and Welsh. You are right. It's not high cuisine, but it tastes much, much, better than it should when you are in the mood for it!

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                              rejoyce318 RE: mzhao Aug 13, 2010 07:44 PM

                              Is there a Don Pablo's in Philly? There's one by the Moorestown Mall if you're on that side of the river. Otherwise, my vote would be for El Azteca.

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                                cwdonald RE: rejoyce318 Aug 14, 2010 04:47 AM

                                There used to be one at Franklin Mills, but thankfully it closed. Don Pablos has one at the Depthford Mall, in Easton, PA and in Newark, DE.

                              2. rabidog RE: mzhao Aug 17, 2010 08:38 PM

                                i actually had a thread around here from several years ago asking for a similar thing. i wanted chips at the table, decent (but tasty) food, and a liquor license IN philly. i came to the conclusion that it does not exist in the city, but it does in norristown. taqueria la michoacana is one (the most expensive one, but good nonetheless) of many. i see this el azteca joint all the time, and i'll have to give it a shot. they've been around forever, or at least as long as i've lived here!

                                i would not recommend anyone go to the mexican post, ever, for any reason. the only thing more horrendous than the food is the service. the drinks are weak, the ambiance is NOT what you're looking for, and it's expensive to boot. i kicked that place to the curb on my first and last visit.

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                                  rabidog RE: rabidog Aug 24, 2010 10:40 AM

                                  ah jeez, bit my tongue already.

                                  i got tacos from mexican post - i liked it :)

                                  yes, i had to channel just a bit of katy perry to admit that. i am slowly working my way through all the food vendors in the comcast center market (read: basement) and today i came to the mexican post. an express version, obviously, unless you haven't been into the marketplace - it's food-court style. it's not gonna have the ambiance or the menu the OP wants, i thought i'd bring it up here since mexican post was mentioned a few times (and i vehemently disagree). my experience there was bad enough that i would never revisit the actual restaurant, but the mini-version in the comcast center is not bad. it's chipotle-style ordering: you tell them what kinda carb (burrito, crispy salad bowl, taco), then the bean, the meat, and alllllll the fixins (and there are a lot). i feel it's hard to go wrong with this style, much like chipotle, the chain i probably take the least offense to, just a bunch of freshly chopped stuff thrown together fast. nothing mexcellent, and nothing disappointing. just though i would share as i continue to polish off my chips and queso. :)

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                                    cwdonald RE: rabidog Aug 24, 2010 02:02 PM

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                                2. Caroline1 RE: mzhao Aug 18, 2010 05:00 AM

                                  I've resisted this as long as I can. The obvious place to get Crappy Fake Mexican Food is from a crappy fake Mexican! Have you tried Conchita Smith's?

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                                    Bigley9 RE: Caroline1 Aug 18, 2010 08:06 AM

                                    where is that? I'm not getting anything on google

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                                    mzhao RE: mzhao Aug 18, 2010 06:06 AM

                                    Thanks for all the suggestions, guys! I'll be sure to try these places out when I move back next week. Right now, I am trying to get as much Mexican food in before I leave home for the fall.

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                                      ssturn RE: mzhao Aug 25, 2010 10:58 AM

                                      I had to signup to Chowhound just so I could throw in my two cents. Shocked no one mentioned On the Border! It's a chain of (non-authentic) "Mexican" restaurants. It's our favorite go-to place when we want something casual and quasi-Mexican. Similar to a Don Pablo's or the Chi-Chi's . . . but much better IMO.

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                                        paychecktoday RE: ssturn Aug 25, 2010 12:03 PM

                                        i made the mistake of going there at the Exton location. that was absolutely horrible. very tacky and faux-mex food. i honestly would suggest going to chili's for better tex-mex

                                        chi-chi's was way better IMHO. i think they are out of business now, since i haven't seen any around for awhile. last one i went to was by the Granite Run Mall

                                        but back to the main topic, this is what i am assuming exactly what the OP is looking for?

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                                          Ali RE: paychecktoday Aug 25, 2010 01:05 PM

                                          I'm not entirely certain where the OP is from in the South (and my experiences are Midwest-based anyway), but from my understanding of the OP's request, there's some very specific he (she?) is looking for.

                                          "Crappy fake Mexican" is a little sloppy and gloppy and not "real" Mexican food, closer to Tex Mex but not really that. It's not even necessarily made by non-Mexicans. (Where I'm from, in fact, these places are usually run by Mexicans who speak heavily accented English, and they're total mom-and-pop joints.) What you're getting is what I'd probably term "a Mexican's interpretation of what Americans perceive as Mexican food."

                                          This is further accented by the decor of a restaurant, again a case of being authentic to nowhere. Decorations are Southwest US meets Dia de los Muertos without the death or cactus references. Sprinkle in some raucous mariachi music and weird lighting. (And pink walls - I run into pink walls 1/2 or 1/3 of the time and the same shade of pepto bismol pink.)

                                          It's a taste of home as some of us knows it, even if it's home to no one at all. And sometimes, it's all you want. Forget the taco al pastor. There are times when nothing but refried pinto beans next to gloppy enchiladas will do!

                                          OP - try the Mexican Food Factory across the border in NJ. They also serve crappy Mexican food.

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                                          State Highway 70 Cropwell Rd, Marlton, NJ 08053

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                                            rabidog RE: Ali Aug 25, 2010 07:54 PM

                                            haha, well said, ali.

                                            i've spent a fair bit of time in the near-south and i know what the OP is referring to, but it is indeed a hard thing to find in philly. i used to half-jokingly refer to one such joint as the most ethnic harrisonburg (VA) knew how to be. :)

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                                              Ariadanz RE: rabidog Aug 26, 2010 01:45 AM

                                              I like El Tapatio over the line from Philadelphia in DE (Claymont/Wilmington). Its our go-to local joint. Its pretty close to the train station, just down the Philadelphia pike from it. There's some authentic stuff on the menu, hiding, and its by no means a Taco Bell. But it has a lot of the qualities that you're looking for - Mom & Pop style ownership, chips and salsa hit the table right after you hit the chairs, strong margaritas, lots of combo dinners with rice and beans. Food comes out fast, hot and tasty. Its good food - but its Mexican like most Chinese Restaurants are Chinese - which is to say "stuff we think the locals will eat".

                                              My favourites - the Chicken Tacos and the Carne Azada either in the more expensive version that comes with a cheese enchilada or the cheaper version by another name thats the same thing minus the enchilada. Hubby loves the chicken chimichangas, he usually gets them soft (unfried) to save calories but darn are the fried ones tasty. They've been around since the week we moved to the area 14 years ago. Its a drive from Philly I know, but if you know anybody down there you could take the train and have them pick you up at the station.

                                              And let me say again (as a regular to the place). Its really good Americanized Mexican Food, not crappy ;)

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                                                Bob Loblaw RE: Ariadanz Aug 26, 2010 04:44 AM

                                                I'm curious how much Johnny Manana's fits the OP's bill.
                                                It's in East Falls, right off Kelly Drive, near the Fall's Bridge.

                                                I'm worried that it's crappy in the wrong ways... but, to be honest, I've not been there for years.

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