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Master Chef elimination round part 2

Joanie Aug 4, 2010 05:02 AM

Seems like almost everyone made it last nite. Joe was more forgiving, Graham said no a few more times. Sending the woman home to cook was pretty hokey as was bringing the family out all the time. You gotta root for a guy with 6 fingers and 4 toes.

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  1. coney with everything RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 05:13 AM

    Saw about two minutes of this show. Heartily despise the begging. I don't think this one is for me.

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      iL Divo RE: coney with everything Aug 4, 2010 07:57 AM

      I did exactly the same thing.
      when they sent that one girl home to try again, I feel like it's a shtick with the longing looks and Ramsay asking Joe or the other guy for their needed opinions. I may get into this later but this round of fool elimination is boring

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        mramage RE: iL Divo Aug 5, 2010 05:26 AM

        They ripped that off from this year's MasterChef Australia - exact same situation. It will be interesting how many more things get 'borrowed' from a show that had 25% of all Australians watching the finale. Even the MC UK is talking about adopting some of MC Aus's format.

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          chris2269 RE: mramage Aug 5, 2010 09:35 AM

          Yes they did. 1st Season of MC Australia the judges sent Po , who ended being runner up, home to redo a more classsic ethnic dish. Glad someone else caught this too.

          I wish more people could be exposed to MC Australia it's such a better show.

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            Dee S RE: chris2269 Aug 6, 2010 10:40 AM

            I'm watching the show after first seeing re-runs of the UK original MasterChef. This, right now, bears no resemblance to that show. The original UK show had three home cooks making two or three courses for the judges in something like two hours. Each course was judged and the winner got a prize (can't remember). I think a later version of the show had the individual winners moving to a semi-finals round held later to determine MasterChef. I stopped watching it early 2000s but I really liked the concept.

            So far, I don't like the show but I'm sticking it out because I think the show's really going to start now.....whitling down the contestants was kind of boring and whiny. Honestly, I could do without the whining. Not certain if I'm going to like this format but can appreciate the challenges put forth; test knife skills, test basic cooking skills and then maybe have them cook multiple course meal for judging? Don't know.

            I'm kind of annoyed at the contestants and us getting to see them beg for a position. Grovel, grovel, grovel....*poof* you have apron!!! Not cool IMHO. How many times were the contestants told to "cook the meal of your life"? How many of them, when critizied, stated "this is not my best. I can do better." Huh?? If you're told to cook the meal of your life, why would you no do your best? I could understand if it didn't turn out the way you like but heck, I'd be practicing my best dish to prepare it in one hour and knock it out of the park.

            We'll see.....

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          iL Divo RE: iL Divo Aug 9, 2010 10:45 AM

          well I've still not bothered to tape it or care to find it or get upset if I missed it. guess that says a lot, I'm just not that into this show. don't much care who wins the other GR show either, H&LL$ Kitchen, don't think any of them have what it takes, where "do" they find these people?

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            LindaWhit RE: iL Divo Aug 9, 2010 10:50 AM

            They audition. I know of the two Boston-area chefs on HK, one pestered the producers/casting folk with tons of phone calls until they finally talked to him. Don't know how the other got onto the show, other than he's been saying he's been wanting on the show for awhile. So perhaps he just sent audition tapes through several seasons until they picked him.

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              iL Divo RE: LindaWhit Aug 9, 2010 12:37 PM

              yep that's possible I suppose.
              which Boston one is the one that pestered?
              I think many go on these types of shows knowing they won't win but hoping for national exposure. Look at Adam Gurtler or that Kelsey girl. Both have been on tv many many times or had their own show as is with Adam. It seems it's who sees you and likes you for a potential other show. I mean where'd they come up with Sunny Anderson from ?

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                LindaWhit RE: iL Divo Aug 9, 2010 12:45 PM

                I'm going to give you two guesses as to who was the irritating pest from Boston. And the first guess doesn't count. ;-)

      2. LindaWhit RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 06:22 AM

        Was impressed with the guy with 6 fingers and very happy he made it through. Didn't like the sending the woman home for ingredients (in L.A. traffic? LOL!) to make something again that was "her".

        Every time Joe takes a bite of someone's food, and then looks up with his super-serious "I'm potentially going to screw you over" look, I laugh.

        Now that the try-outs are over, I'll be interested to see what happens. Chopping onions and making a perfect egg seem to the first two tests. Anyone have any idea about other things they'll be required to learn/do?

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          piglet86 RE: LindaWhit Aug 5, 2010 10:11 AM

          Joe's stinkeye is one of the few redeeming features of this show. So far, I'd rather watch Bastianich stare down Ramsay every week. Now that's a show.

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            Joanie RE: piglet86 Aug 5, 2010 11:17 AM

            I like it too. I'm not sure what I think about them all eating off the same plate. Not that I don't do it to my dining companions, and the people aren't plating for a bunch of people, but somehow I still find it odd.

            I agree with whomever that episode 1 seemed much better than 2. Hopefully it'll get better now that they focus more on a smaller group. But there's sure no reason to use the DVR at this point.

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              The Dairy Queen RE: Joanie Aug 5, 2010 11:26 AM

              I thought I was the only one who worried about them eating off of the same plate.They seem to do that on Top Chef often, too.

              I hope they at least get a fresh fork every time!

              ~TDQ

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                LindaWhit RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 5, 2010 11:29 AM

                That I have noticed - they all have their own silverware if I'm seeing things correctly.

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                  Withnail42 RE: LindaWhit Aug 6, 2010 08:18 AM

                  I think they do. Because the same thought goes through my mind.

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                    celfie RE: Withnail42 Aug 9, 2010 06:48 AM

                    i always found it so bizarre on MC australia when they show the judges portioning out the dish onto separate plates. it's the sort of delay not found in american television which is fast and to the point - but it adds to MC australia's charm

        2. The Dairy Queen RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 07:32 AM

          I thought it was weird that they seemed to accept so many this time around, too. I was wondering if they realized they had a pile of aprons left and not that many contestants...

          And, yes, it seems like there were a lot of people who got aprons because of their touching/inspiring personal stories and not necessarily because their food showed more promise than others.

          And any time they called someone's family in, you knew that person was going to get an apron. They didn't seem intent on humiliating anyone in front of his/her family.

          ~TDQ

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            Robert Ogden RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 08:03 AM

            Should I watch this? I just can't seem to get into another Ramsay show. The original BBC version of Kitchen Nightmares was his best show!

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              LarryLg RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 08:03 AM

              This show sucks.

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                lizzy RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 08:20 AM

                This episode seemed more contrived than the first, sending the woman home and GE changing his mind on the first contestant. I am just excited this part is over because now we get to see if they can cook. Next week should be interesting, the challenges seem to be worthy and they said they would cut the pool in half!

                There is one thing that bothered me and my dh, what is the point of the show? Neither one of us has seen the original so we're not sure if the point is to pick out the diamond in the rough or if it is to teach someone to be a MC.

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                  The Dairy Queen RE: lizzy Aug 4, 2010 08:31 AM

                  Lizzy, I wondered the same about the point of the show. A lot of people, when pleading with the judges, keep saying things along the lines of "I can learn" etc. So, I'm confused if they will be teaching people to become the best or testing people to find who is already the best.

                  ~TDQ

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                    LindaWhit RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 4, 2010 09:16 AM

                    Hasn't Graham Elliot said "I'll vouch for him; he can learn"? So my expectation is that there will be some kind of teaching. They can't be expected to know everything, correct?

                    Perhaps the two tests we saw in previews for next week - making the "perfect egg" and chopping onions - will weed out those who aren't at the level the judges are looking to teach.

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                      The Dairy Queen RE: LindaWhit Aug 4, 2010 09:39 AM

                      Yes, I noticed that comment of Elliot's too.

                      I guess we will have to wait until next week!

                      ~TDQ

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                        lizzy RE: LindaWhit Aug 4, 2010 01:44 PM

                        Hasn't Graham Elliot said "I'll vouch for him; he can learn"? So my expectation is that there will be some kind of teaching. They can't be expected to know everything, correct?
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                        A lot of people, when pleading with the judges, keep saying things along the lines of "I can learn" etc. So, I'm confused if they will be teaching people to become the best or testing people to find who is already the best.
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                        I agree with both of you on these points, I'm glad I'm not the only one confused! I think what especially confuses me is on one hand Graham Elliot said he would vouch for and teach one contestant, but in the same episode the woman originally from Jamaica, with the spot on curry, couldn't be taught how to plate properly!?!?

                        I hope we'll see next week or the week after at the latest.

                        1. re: lizzy
                          LindaWhit RE: lizzy Aug 4, 2010 01:55 PM

                          Here's the "About" page: http://www.fox.com/masterchef/about/

                          "Contestants on MASTERCHEF will be judged and mentored by Chef Gordon Ramsay, ...."

                          and

                          "MASTERCHEF contestants will be put through their paces in a series of challenges designed to test their palate, food knowledge, passion and culinary skills both inside and outside the kitchen."

                          So I wonder if they get a "practice round", learning about what they're going to be judged on, and then they have to "perform"?

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                            celfie RE: LindaWhit Aug 9, 2010 06:51 AM

                            In MC Australia, people are sent home in elimination rounds. One season is like 70 episodes (I doubt this will be the case with the fox show). What happens is the bottom 3 or 4 in a pressure test have to square off (if memory serves me). It's something like that. So in MC australia, there isn't an elimination every episode.

                    2. re: lizzy
                      Miss Needle RE: lizzy Aug 5, 2010 05:37 AM

                      Yup. I get the feeling as the curry lady put on the waterworks after she was initially rejected, the producers convinced them to accept her as she would be good for tv.

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                      cheesemaestro RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 11:39 AM

                      I'm having a hard time reconciling the Gordon Ramsay of Hell's Kitchen--the fire-breathing devil in a chef's jacket--with the Gordon Ramsay of Master Chef--the smiling guardian angel of promising talent. It's especially jarring because the two programs are broadcast back to back.

                      I don't like it that the judges seem to be making up the rules as they go along and making exceptions whenever it suits them. Like letting one contestant cook another dish when no one else was given a second chance. Or telling the woman from Mississippi that her food was fabulous, but "I'm going to vote 'no,' because you're too young." She's 22, not 12!

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                        The Dairy Queen RE: cheesemaestro Aug 4, 2010 11:46 AM

                        It seems pretty arbitrary, doesn't it?

                        ~TDQ

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                          lizzy RE: cheesemaestro Aug 4, 2010 01:47 PM

                          I completely agree about making up the rules. I also thought so what if she is 22, it should be what is on the plate that matters.

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                            The Dairy Queen RE: lizzy Aug 4, 2010 01:58 PM

                            I think these are the rules: we will be assembling a group of people whose food is within an acceptable range. That group will include people we click with, for whatever random reason, and people we will delight in humiliating and eliminating throughout the season.

                            ~TDQ

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                              marcia RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 4, 2010 08:47 PM

                              Isn't that how these ubiquitous contestants shows w/"celebrity" judges, are done? Which is why I can't watch them--they seem to be tediously boring and full of schtick from both the judges and contestants. Must admit my knowledge of those types of shows is based on what I've seen on "The Soup". They watch it so I don't have to.

                              Anyway, I saw this show, for real. It's tediously boring and full of schtick. Thumbs down.

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                          TheFoodEater RE: Joanie Aug 4, 2010 11:09 PM

                          last week i liked the show even though I didn't want to. this week, it just sucked. I'm going to take a drug test to see if maybe some one slipped me something right before I decided I liked it last week, cause I don't know what I was thinking.

                          can you imagine how good a show with graham elliot, gordon ramsay, and joe b. could be?

                          and we get this pile of garbage instead. maybe it will be good later? I hope. But this was one of the worst hours of TV I've ever seen, and it had graham elliot and gordon ramsay on it!!! why?

                          I guess the upside to all this drama is that it will be entertaining to see so many people's naive dreams crushed, stomped on and ruined on the way to the finals. always a silver lining.

                          1. piglet86 RE: Joanie Aug 5, 2010 10:19 AM

                            To my mind, sending that woman home for a second chance to cook something "authentic" was borderline offensive. She's a self-confessed "foodie," so of course she's expecting this august panel of judges to want cheffy plating; what's to say that her cheffy self is not authentic? It seemed that the judges—and Ramsay particularly—were typecasting her. She's of Puerto Rican extraction, so therefore she *must* cook something Puerto Rican, something "ethnic," which equals not fancy; else it's not authentic. No cooking above your station!

                            If I were in a bad mood, I'd say that attitude is pretty racist. But the sun is out, and I've had a delicious lunch; who can be in a bad mood?

                            1. Withnail42 RE: Joanie Aug 6, 2010 08:19 AM

                              I might very well be out of the loop but has anyone heard of the chubby guy with the white glasses before this show?

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                                LindaWhit RE: Withnail42 Aug 6, 2010 08:32 AM

                                LOL! The chubby guy, Graham Elliot (Bowles) was on Top Chef Masters 2 - remember he wanted to beat his buddy, Wylie Dufresne? Granted, I probably wouldn't have heard of him before TCM, but he's worked at Charlie Trotters and at Tru with Rick Tramonto and Gale Gand. Food & Wine Best New Chef 2004, youngest 4-star chef in America, and several James Beard nominations. He's got game.

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                                  The Dairy Queen RE: LindaWhit Aug 6, 2010 08:39 AM

                                  So, how do you think they approached him? "Will you be our Paula Abdul?"

                                  ~TDQ

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                                    LindaWhit RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 6, 2010 09:15 AM

                                    Can't see GE(B) dancing to "Straight Up" or "Opposites Attract". ;-)

                                    Perhaps Gordon wanted another 4-star chef on the judging panel so it didn't look like bragging when he talked about his Michelin stars.

                              2. Axalady RE: Joanie Aug 6, 2010 01:37 PM

                                I didn't have high hopes for this show after episode 1. I just tried to watch episode 2. I could only handle 5 minutes. I got to the point where they were going to decide whether or not the woman who says she QUIT HER JOB to pursue being a Master Chef (does anybody really do that?!) was going through and I just had to delete it. I even thought of taking it out of my TIVO, but perhaps once all this ridiculous made up drama is over and the cooking starts it may get better.... may. I am SO DISAPPOINTED. So far this show is a joke.

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                                  The Dairy Queen RE: Axalady Aug 6, 2010 03:01 PM

                                  I agree, Axalady. I could have handled one week of this casting stuff, but two weeks was too much. If the cooking stuff that I'm expecting to start next week isn't a HUGE improvement, I will turn it off for good. So, holding out hope for a great week next week...

                                  ~TDQ

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                                  TuteTibiImperes RE: Joanie Aug 8, 2010 07:32 PM

                                  I halfway enjoyed the first two episodes, but I agree, way too much manufactured drama.

                                  I'm curious to see where it is going to go from here. I like TC because it is very recipe and results driven. I don't watch HK anymore because aside from a couple challenges here and there, it's all about the drama and if they can or can't recreate somebody else's recipes in a restaurant setting, which, at least to me, is boring to watch. Similarly TNFS, with all of the 'camera challenges' just gets old.

                                  If this turns into a bunch of line cooking, knife skills, and other technique as opposed to creativity based challenges, I'm going to drop it. If they manage to keep it fresh ala TC, I might stay with it.

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