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best jamaican patties in the gta

chrisfernando100 Jul 31, 2010 07:42 AM

i searched and found the usual on randy's and the patty king...looking for authentic in-house made patties....there was one place in missisauga near battleford and montevideo (i think) but i can't remember the name...

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    longolame Jul 31, 2010 11:17 AM

    Back in the day (late 70`s) I basically lived on Jamaican patties. I would buy them from a small independent bakery on Jane just south of Lawrence. I would get there just as they came out of the oven. Hot, flaky, and spicy with a meat filling that was not of dubious source. I have not been able to find anything similar since they went out of business. The commercial patties today have tough pastry with lots of yellow colouring, a very watery meat filling that I don`t trust because it must be the cheapest meat available, and most have dried out from sitting in the warmers. If you find a bakery making the real thing, please post.

    1. curnonsky Jul 31, 2010 11:39 AM

      Queen of Patties on Bloor at Lansdowne made on the premises.

      The Caribbean Queen of Patties
      1279 Bloor St W, Toronto, ON M6H1N7, CA

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      1. re: curnonsky
        bogie Jul 31, 2010 05:45 PM

        I agree, she makes some amazingly addictive patties, absolutely the best I have ever had.

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        Yongeman Jul 31, 2010 01:30 PM

        Randy's patties are made onsite, as are Allen's in the Peanut Plaza. Also Tinnels. They are hot, fresh and tasty at all three of these bakeries.

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          longolame Jul 31, 2010 06:52 PM

          Thanks for the responses. I will definitely try Caribbean Queen asap. I`ll post back.
          The Randy`s, Allen`s, and Tinnels sound more like a prepared product that is just heated up (cooked) at the bakeries like Tim Hortons does with their product rather than totally created inhouse.
          If I`m wrong, please let me know!

          Caribbean Queen
          25 The West Mall, Toronto, ON M9C1B8, CA

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            Yongeman Aug 1, 2010 06:38 AM

            Hi longolame...you're definitely wrong. I've never tried Caribbean Queen, but the other three bake onsite. Randy's only has one location that I know of, also Allen's (Allan's). I think that Tinnels has a couple, but all patties are baked from raw, onsite.

            Caribbean Queen
            25 The West Mall, Toronto, ON M9C1B8, CA

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              longolame Aug 1, 2010 07:40 AM

              Good to hear. I'll be trying them all. Thanks...

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          Atahualpa Jul 31, 2010 07:00 PM

          I've had Queen of Patties', Allen's, Timmel's, and Randy's. My favourite is Randy's by a country mile. Nice pieces of meat in a salty, well-seasoned sauce (slightly saucy too), in a nice tender crust.

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          1. re: Atahualpa
            atomeyes Aug 1, 2010 05:34 PM

            People rave about Randy's and i never got it.
            i used to eat at Patty King across the street - its since closed. they had 2 types of patties - homemade and the "Patty King" patties. their homemade beef patties were great.
            I've tried Randy's infrequently over the past decade and its still the same mess.
            Incredibly salty, incredibly aqueous and SCALDING hot.
            there isn't ground beef in it - just some broth/paste.
            I just don't get how it has the reputation that it has.

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              Atahualpa Aug 1, 2010 08:22 PM

              I like it runny. I like it salty. I don't mind it being hot – I can be patient. I am happy it doesn't have ground beef because it does have small chunks of beef instead that actually have some texture.

              I am an east-end person, so I have Allen's much more than Randy's. My father works at Bloor and Dufferin, so Queen of Patties isn't an infrequent stop. However, above either, I prefer Randy's for the exact reasons you don't like them.

              Chacun a son gout.

              1. re: Atahualpa
                Matt H Aug 2, 2010 07:55 AM

                Agreed, Randy's IMO is the undisputed champion in TO for all the reasons you mentioned.

                On another note, does anyone in the GTA make Lobster patties? Ive personally never found any.

                1. re: Matt H
                  Aardvark Aug 2, 2010 08:04 AM

                  Also agree that Randy's is the best. At least the best I have tried. They are scalding hot though as mentioned but I just (rather impatiently) wait until they cool down a bit.

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                    Davwud Aug 2, 2010 08:25 AM

                    I'll put Randy's in a tie with Tinnel's.

                    I will say that the shrimp patties from Patty King are very good too. Only when fresh though.


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                      Yongeman Aug 2, 2010 09:33 AM

                      Best way to cool a Randy's patty--carefully take a bite of mostly pastry at one end. Start driving, and hold it out the window, with the air blowing into the patty. Second best way is to buy it in winter. Otherwise, it's too hard to wait while it cools down.

                      1. re: Yongeman
                        pinstripeprincess Aug 2, 2010 10:56 AM

                        sounds like xiao long bao.

                        i find the crust too crunchy and not very flakey at all. the thin gravy really doesn't appeal to me either.

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                          longolame Aug 2, 2010 08:59 PM

                          Getting a lot of useful info from this thread. I still don't want to pay $2 for a reheated patty (eg. Wilson subway station - think they are Patty King, but I'll find out for sure in the next few days). The 'holding out the window' technique is great if you have a car, but the TTC subway and bus windows are sealed shut. As for winter, it's still 3-4 months away...

              2. duckdown Aug 1, 2010 01:11 PM

                I like Tinnels at Queen & Kennedy here in Brampton

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                  jmarcroyal Aug 1, 2010 01:45 PM

                  Allens is the correct answer. These can be found at the Peanut Plaza on Don Mills South of Finch, as well at Warden Subway Station and Bathurst Station. They might be at Islington but i forget...

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                    longolame Aug 1, 2010 02:20 PM

                    I think I'm totally out of date, but how much does a regular spicy beef patty cost these days?

                    I passed through the Wilson station today and the donut/snack store was selling the patties for just under $2. I didn't stay to find out where they were sourced, (there was a lineup and my bus was waiting) but they certainly weren't baked there. Also being late Sunday, I figured they might have been on display for a while.

                    Sure wanted one, but I had homegrown heirloom tomatoes in my carry bag, so I passed. Tonight is Ontario peaches, backyard tomatoes, and some imported Valencia oranges (from Mexico). The oranges were about $1 each, but I can't find non-organic Valencias. They taste sooo gooood! The basket of Ontario peaches was $3. Both Highland Farms.

                    No matter I still crave a hot and fresh patty. Are there times to visit the recommended bakeries in order to get the treat hot and fresh from the oven?

                    Highland Farms
                    850 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1P, CA

                    1. re: longolame
                      pinstripeprincess Aug 1, 2010 04:11 PM

                      the queen's patties are based on her mood and her mood only. they're not always great, but still my favourite in the city and have been for a long time. i've never caught a fresh batch out of the oven but she makes them fresh daily and runs out daily. your best bet is probably within an hour of opening time.

                      1. re: longolame
                        curnonsky Aug 2, 2010 05:47 AM

                        Beef patties usually go for $1 to $1.25 these days. At Patty King, a dozen baked beef patties is $8.49, unbaked $7.75. $1.25 each? They also have shrimp and ackee patties for $2 and calaloo and goat for $1.45.

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                          longolame Aug 4, 2010 04:29 PM

                          The patties at the Wilson station are from Allen's. I asked today.
                          They are being sold for $1.90 each.
                          Much as I want one, I can't justify the cost.
                          At this time I spent my limited money on another basket of fresh and juicy Ontario peaches for $2.99. Much better deal, but come the winter those hot and spicy patties will be sending our their siren call. All this talk really does make me hungry!

                      2. re: jmarcroyal
                        ParsleySage Aug 3, 2010 10:25 AM

                        The patties at the Bathurst station cafe are definitely NOT Allen's.

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                          TOchowgal Aug 4, 2010 10:54 AM

                          I love the patties from the cafe inside Bathurst Station. Do know who supplies them?

                    2. witloof Aug 2, 2010 07:31 PM

                      queen of patties all the way ! (the jerk and the rotis are amazing too)

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                        TOexpat Aug 2, 2010 08:18 PM

                        I am going to be up in TO and plan to do a little patty taste test tour to include Randy's and Allen's. In years past, I usually find myself in Kensington and always grabed a couple from Patty King and enjoyed them. Strange that they don't seem to get a mention on the patty threads - I am wrong about Patty King or in for a real treat with the other two? BTW fondest memories as a kid growning up in Toronto were the patties at Bathurst Station. Seems like those come from Allen's, so I am hoping they live up to my memories.

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                          Davwud Aug 2, 2010 10:04 PM

                          I can't speak for others but find PK to be perfectly fine. Not the best but perfectly good. So long as they're fresh. They seem to go down hill quickly.


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                            Supamav Aug 3, 2010 09:35 AM

                            There is also Tastee's in Markham, they do bake onsite, however I cannot compare them to the other's since I haven't tried them. They are pretty good though.

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                              chrisfernando100 Aug 3, 2010 02:13 PM

                              i'm gonna have to try tinnels in brampton ..kinda ot but pho peter in the same plaza is awesome...

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                              mikefly Apr 17, 2011 08:14 PM


                            3. re: TOexpat
                              wontonfm Aug 3, 2010 04:15 PM

                              When I was younger I used to enjoy Patty King but now can't stand them. I find the crust too tough and the meat too gummy. I'm on team Randy's but alas it's all a matter of opinion. Randy's and Patty King are totally different (or at least last time I had PK).


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                            madtrisha Aug 4, 2010 09:58 AM

                            The best patties are from Randy's or Michidean's (I get mine freshly baked from Top Taste at Dovercourt and Bloor). I like Patty King, but Randy's and Michidean's patties taste more authentic.

                            Don't really care for Queen of Patties because her patties are so inconsistent.

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                            1. re: madtrisha
                              Matt H Aug 4, 2010 10:18 AM

                              I agree, but if you like one you must like the other as Randy's and Michidean's are basically the same patty. Both owners used to be partners but kept the basically the exact same recipe for both.

                              Randy's I still would say is slightly more consistent, because they only sell them at their own store.

                              1. re: madtrisha
                                jnine Aug 4, 2010 11:22 AM

                                Thanks for the tip! Bloor and Dovercourt (Michidean's) is closer than Oakwood and Eglington(Randy's). I'm totally having some patties tonight.

                                We bought some at Ontario Place this weekend during Caribana, and surprisingly my toddler loved them, even the spicy beef.

                              2. Dr Butcher Aug 4, 2010 02:43 PM

                                My two faves in the city are Michidean and Randy's as well. I didn't know they were once associated. Funny.

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                                  jnine Aug 4, 2010 03:35 PM

                                  Just picked up a fresh baked box of Michidean from Top Taste. The whole fam enjoyed dinner tonight!

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                                    wontonfm Aug 5, 2010 05:03 AM

                                    I totally forgot about Michidean's! We used to go there YEARS ago. I might have to check them out soon to jog my memory.


                                    1. re: wontonfm
                                      wontonfm Aug 5, 2010 06:32 PM

                                      So I couldn't hold out and hit up Michidean's today. I liked the fact that the filling was less runny than Randy's but wish it had a tad more spice. I enjoyed the crust. Flaky but not too flaky and not tough at all. Next time I'll give their chicken and veggie patties a try as that's what I normally get at Randy's.


                                2. bitchdoctrine Aug 5, 2010 03:43 AM

                                  my friends and i had a patty olympics event, and tasted randy's, tinnels, michidean, tastee and allan's... and michidean ended up winning, with allan's and randy's coming in second and third respectively.

                                  randy's has the tastiest authentic beef flavour, however, the filling was too runny for us. it was like a super jamaican won ton.

                                  allan's had the nice crust, but alas, the filling wasn't on the same level as the crust. the crust shouldnt be better than the beef filling, which wasn't that spicy, even though they were supposed to be. they did get extra points for having cocktail size patties though.

                                  michidean's was the overall winner, having consistent fantastic tasty filling and crust. the spice was not overwhelming either, just adding a bit of pepper to the beef. the crust was nice and flaky as well.

                                  tastee? well, lets just say that name is a misnomer.... smh

                                  patty king was DSQ from the start, just based on them having the worst filling ever. i'm talking about the ones you can buy frozen from nofrills, not from the scarborough factory. patty king is like buying a taco from taco bell, not real at all.

                                  outside of our event, any time i'm at bathurst station, i buy a spicy beef patty with coco bread from those lovely ethiopians. i even paid bus fare just to buy a box and go back outside to my car.

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                                  1. re: bitchdoctrine
                                    Yongeman Aug 5, 2010 07:02 AM

                                    Thanks to you and your friends, bitchdoctrine. Where did Tinnels fit in? Like wontonfm, I have not had a Michidean patty in a long time. They were always good.

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                                      duckdown Aug 5, 2010 09:02 AM

                                      Weird picks.

                                      I prefer Tinnels (best filling), then Allens (best crust), then Randy's (overrated IMO but still good). Michidean's filling was too gummy IIRC. I still have some in the bottom of my freezer somewhere..

                                      1. re: bitchdoctrine
                                        longolame Aug 5, 2010 01:20 PM

                                        To test my most convenient source I bought a patty from the donut/sandwich outlet inside the Wilson subway station.Cost $1.90. I was told they were Allen's, but no branding anywhere I could see.
                                        I chose the spicy beef. Others have commented about the Allen's crust being the best. Mine did not deserve good reviews. It came from one of those little heater ovens that patties are usually kept in for sale hot. My crust was tasty enough and not overly yellow, but it was soft and pliable and basically chewy. I could separate it into 2 layers quite easily. Maybe the store microwaved them first? Not the crispy, flaky, and moist experience I remember and am looking for.

                                        The filling was 'ok'. Basically a thin layer of meaty stuff attached to the inside bottom of the crust. Spicing was not really hot, just enough to provide a minute of two of that experience in the mouth when it knows it ate a few spicy peppers.
                                        I do admit that I like very spicy food, the type that makes you sweat, so the spicing level may be ok for most.
                                        I'd like to try some of these directly at the bakery, but to spend over $5 on transit for a $2 treat is excessive. If I knew they were great, I'd travel and buy a dozen, but I'm still underwhelmed with the current crop of patties I've been able to try.

                                      2. atomeyes Aug 5, 2010 06:46 PM

                                        someone once told me about Nicee's.
                                        No idea where it is. but they claimed theirs was the best

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                                          zarathustra Nov 1, 2010 10:16 AM

                                          I've been to Nicee's when they were filling up their oven with Michidean's patties. The grocery store next to the take out place sells all types of patties by the box, frozen and baked. All you have to do is heat them up.

                                          They carry Non-Nisa, Michidean (many varieties, Allen's, Juici and a couple more.

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                                          William Taft Aug 5, 2010 10:06 PM

                                          re: Randy's runny filling

                                          That's what coco bread is for!!!

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                                            Yongeman Aug 6, 2010 01:35 PM

                                            good call.

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                                              TOexpat Aug 25, 2010 08:20 AM

                                              I had intended to get to several shops on my last trip but only had time to get to Allan's. As mentioned above the crust was very flaky and delicious and the filling while very good, did not in my opinion equal the level of the crust. Still should be on the top of your list though.

                                              There have been mentions on this forum that Allen's supplies the subway stations, but I can tell you that their current patty does not match the ones I used to get at the Bathurst Subway station years ago. Allen's may be the current supplier nevertheless. Anyone know who supplied the Bathurst Station in the early 80's?

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                                            excel Apr 17, 2011 09:59 AM

                                            Hey guys..wanted to raise this thread up out of the ashes, as I've recently had a craving for patties!

                                            I was referred to a place called Ralph's Bakery in Etobicoke - Finch and 427 N. Stop by to pick up some patties and they were sold out of everything except for mild beef. Must say it was way better than any other patties I've eaten, granted I've only had the horrible patties sold at convenience stores or the so, so patties they use to sell at my high school. The patti I had was hot, and the crust was flaky, although not philo flaky. The meat was runnier than I'm use to having, not sure if that's a good or bad thing, but it was tasty. All in all, I thought they were very, very good. I prefer my patties to be spicy, so I can't wait to go back and try the spicy beef and chicken

                                            Has anyone had the patties at Ralphs? if so, how do they compare to the other mentioned in this thread?

                                            Thanks guys

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                                            1. re: excel
                                              ParsleySage Apr 18, 2011 05:36 AM

                                              The patties sold at Ralph's are Michidean brand.

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                                                excel Apr 18, 2011 09:28 AM

                                                Not to be rude, but how do you know this?

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                                                  mayaishi Apr 28, 2011 10:28 PM

                                                  Yesterday I took the TTC to Bathurst just to eat patties. I tried a spicy beef in a coco bun from the little Cafe on the Go (Dreadful, dry, the pastry bright yellow and tough from the microwave). Disappointed. Then I spotted the little bakery across the way. Aha! The patties were just coming out of the oven on huge trays. I had one, fragrant, molten hot beef filling, flaky pastry (a pale brown, no food colouring?) without a cc bun. Yummy but a bit dry. I remembered patties having a bit of gravy. Altogether not worth the two tokens.

                                                  1. re: mayaishi
                                                    Yongeman Apr 29, 2011 05:22 AM

                                                    Oh too bad mayaishi. You should have gone to Eglinton West and got a patty from Randy's. Nice and juicy. And if you're up for a little (20 min) walk, you could head west to Tinnel's, also on Eglinton. They're pretty good lip-scorchers too.

                                                    1. re: Yongeman
                                                      mayaishi Apr 30, 2011 11:02 PM

                                                      Thanks Youngman. I will go and let you know what I think.

                                            2. ekim256 May 1, 2011 12:23 AM

                                              Another vote for Queen of Patties - discovered her last fall.
                                              Post: http://www.cookiesandtomatoes.com/201...

                                              Queen of Patties indeed. She has been around for over 7 years and people are still going well out of their way for her tasty patties! She also offers curry goat, oxtail, jerk chicken, stew beef, curry chicken, red snapper, king fish, and roti. Quite the contrast from Ackee Tree...flaky and puffy. Located in Bloordale Village, it's a hidden gem and the spicy beef is so good. Meaty, filling, and a little on the moist side which I enjoyed. The pastry was flaky and fresh! They reheat very well: Pop them in toaster oven at 350F for about 10 minutes

                                              I wish there was a good source in the downtown core. Not a fan of Patty King and I definnniiitely don't like the patties they sell at Ackee Tree.

                                              Erin :3

                                              Ackee Tree
                                              170 Spadina Ave, Toronto, ON M5T2C2, CA

                                              The Caribbean Queen of Patties
                                              1279 Bloor St W, Toronto, ON M6H1N7, CA

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                                                helenhelen May 1, 2011 01:48 PM

                                                i really miss jamaican patties! if anyne knows of where i can get a proper vegetarian one (i.e. no beef tallow in the pastry), please let me know! i've seen veg patties everywhere, but the crust usually has beef tallow.

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                                                1. re: helenhelen
                                                  wontonfm May 1, 2011 02:42 PM

                                                  It might be worth a call to One Love Vegetarian on Bathurst north of Bloor. The owners are Jamaican and everything that they serve is 100% animal free. I can't remember if they serve patties but they might or might be able to point you in the direction of some good totally veggie options.


                                                  1. re: wontonfm
                                                    helenhelen May 4, 2011 06:51 PM

                                                    good idea! i will ask them next time i am there

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                                                  DVT78 May 5, 2011 09:19 PM

                                                  I haven't had a chance to try Micheadean but I have tried Randy's and Allan's, I would say Randy's has a better filling inside but Allan's has the better crust and a pretty good tasty filling too.

                                                  I was quite surprised to find an Allan's bakery near Pacific Mall, it's in between Steeles Ave and Passmore Ave off Kennedy Rd in the same plaza as Ming's Noodle Cafe, it's hard to find a good patty in Upper Scarborough.

                                                  When I go there I usally get a spicy patty on a coco bun with a pop for $2.50 tax included and the patties are always fresh.

                                                  Ming's Noodle Cafe
                                                  3447 Kennedy Rd, Toronto, ON M1V4Y3, CA

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                                                    Rio_Rio Jul 19, 2011 07:08 AM

                                                    Any good pattie places in down town Toronto?

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