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Top 2 italian and french restaurants in Tokyo?

Japfan Jul 28, 2010 08:42 AM

HI I am off to my yearly trip to Tokyo for my much-awaited gourmet experience in Sept.. Appreciate help !! I usually have a mix of Jap, italian and french for fine dining and casual local eateries. So far, i have yet to finalise my italian and french restaurants for bookings... For italian, i have been to aroma fresca n argenta aso - both of which i love and for french, i have been to quintessence and robuchon - the former fabulous n the later decent. Looking for new experiences so would rather not go back to the same restaurants. Appreciate suggestions!!

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    pauliface RE: Japfan Jul 28, 2010 10:35 AM

    For Italian -- I really loved Il Grappolo da Miura. Wonderful homemade pasta and bread, delicious meat and fish too.
    For French -- was unimpressed by L'Osier.. Food was good, but not nearly up to snuff compared to a starred Parisian restaurant. Also, the only meal where I was too full at the end, the pacing was off -- could not eat my mignardises! Would not go back.

    My favorite French place in Japan is in Kyoto, Misoguigawa, which does a kind of French Kaiseki, it's just fantastic.

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      Scharn RE: Japfan Jul 28, 2010 12:53 PM

      for french troisgros and l'osier.

      1. Delucacheesemonger RE: Japfan Jul 28, 2010 02:22 PM

        My pick for French would be Pachon. See http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678812

        1. BaronDestructo RE: Japfan Jul 28, 2010 10:01 PM

          I second the Michel Troisgros recommendation in the French category and would also add heavy-hitters L'Osier and Chateau Joel Robuchon to the list. If anyone is in a position to recognize great French food, it would be Delucacheesemonger - so I'm adding Pachon to my restaurant list for my annual Tokyo trip.

          In the Italian category, was pleasantly surprised by Faro in Ginza's Shiseido Building.

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            Japfan RE: BaronDestructo Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM

            Looks like Troisgros and Pachon comes highly recommended!! I came across a top italian favorite on tabelog - Il Teatrino da Salone - infact rated #1 but cant get any information on the web..anyone been that or heard about it? Certainly looks interesting

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              Uncle Yabai RE: BaronDestructo Jul 30, 2010 07:06 AM

              I just had dinner at Faro. Have to say it was quite fine. Good value for money, too.

            2. Notorious P.I.G. RE: Japfan Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM

              Third Troisgros.

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                Robb S RE: Notorious P.I.G. Jul 29, 2010 03:20 AM

                Another vote for Troisgros.

                By the way, they have a budget branch inside Odakyu Department store that does up a nice lunch menu starting at around Y1500. Wines are quite reasonable too, as you can pick up a bottle in their bakery and bring it to lunch or dinner for a small corkage charge.

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                  Notorious P.I.G. RE: Robb S Jul 29, 2010 10:53 AM

                  Nice! Thanks for the heads up on that!

              2. FourSeasons RE: Japfan Jul 29, 2010 03:25 AM

                You may want to check out Edition Koji Shimomura for French cuisine. Absolutely top notch.

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                  Japfan RE: FourSeasons Jul 29, 2010 10:03 PM

                  Thanks much for the help!! Will go ahead with my bookings for french. Still undecided on Italian. BTW, for Japanese fusion - i have decided on Aoyama Esaki. Any other recommendation? Actually i really love such cuisine - very interesting. I have been to La Bombance and Yonemura - both i like....Would love to try ryugin but it's way too expensive for me.

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                  Japfan RE: Japfan Sep 1, 2010 06:46 PM

                  Hi everyone, thanks for all the help!! Counting down - one more week. I m currently booked for Edition koji and Troisgros for french, ristorante aso and faro for italian and Sushi saito for japanese.

                  Two more space for japanese - any recommendation? Preferably one kaiseki and one casual in ginza cause i am staying near ginza. THanks so much!!

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                    epop RE: Japfan Nov 26, 2010 03:59 PM

                    any reports, Japfan?

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