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thank goodness Serena has finally been kicked off. Can she make anything other than pasta?

what are your thoughts on the final 5?

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  1. definitely relieved to see Serena go - i just never found her enjoyable to watch, and when she broke out in song i had to hit fast-forward. ugh.

    Aria & Tom were both cringe-worthy tonight, i wish both of them could have gotten the boot as well. Aria peaked by week 2, and while Tom seems nice enough, his food is really inconsistent, and i find his delivery & presence sort of awkward.

    no surprise that Brad, Aarti & Herb are still standing - they were my top 3 picks from Day One.

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    1. re: goodhealthgourmet

      Serena--it was definitely time for her to go. Very fake presence on camera. Very limited with her food.

      Aria--I would not have minded her being cut as well. She just seems very one-dimensional. And I wanted to scream when she interrupted Aarti during the introduction. That was really bad.

      Tom--I still like Tom. He had a horrible week but this is not Top Chef. They are judged, and should be, for cumulative performance, not just the week. He has much more potential than Aria.

      Brad--I still can't decide whether or not he irritates me. He can cook, but I'm not sure he can host a tv show.

      Herb--He's improved, obviously, but he still bugs me. Just too UP, too type A for me. And I haven't gotten the way over the topness of him in the food truck challenge out of my mind.

      Aarti--It's hers to win. And the show would be a good addition for food network.

      1. re: debbiel

        Aarti is the only one whose show I'd be interested in watching.

      2. re: goodhealthgourmet

        I think Aria showed her true colors and it's not pretty. She wants to win at all costs and interrupting Aarti was rude, reminded me of Dzintra. Herb has had major up and down moments but I think he has potential and brings something new to the table. I guess he's ditched the personal trainer healthy foods concept?

        I'm not sure about Brad as a TV personality. And, he says he brings the "pro" view to his show, as if it's something new. Um, does he realize that he's talking to a lot of pros who have shows on that network?

        It was time for Serena to go. She was awkward and I can't remember anything she did well, other than the one time with Brianna on the truck. I just saw a 24 hour restaurant challenge with a woman (three generations of Italian women) who did an Italian restaurant. I think she could have done Serena's idea, but much better and she was great on camera, too. Besides, FTV already has Giada.

        1. re: chowser

          Aria's intererrupting did remind me of Dzintra and the irony is that it was Aria that Dzintra interrupted! In both cases it was "strategy" that backfired.

          I, too, was glad to see Serena go. Personally, I haven't liked her since day 1 and couldn't see what the fuss was, except that she's attractive. Funnily enough, I watched a couple of minutes of the "after show" on the Cooking Channel (which was pretty painful to watch. Everyone is so awkward) and Serena said that she'd wanted to do a seafood dish, but Aarti steered her back to pasta because she wanted something vegetarian. That part of the conversation was cut. I'm wondering if Aarti was sabotaging Serena. But, I can't believe she chose yet another red sauce dish. This is L.A.--why didn't she choose something light and colorful with brightly colored vegetables and a light olive oil and lemon sauce or something?

          ~TDQ

          1. re: The Dairy Queen

            There's an "after show?" Uh oh...more tv for me on Sundays?

            1. re: The Dairy Queen

              "But, I can't believe she chose yet another red sauce dish. This is L.A.--why didn't she choose something light and colorful with brightly colored vegetables and a light olive oil and lemon sauce or something?"
              ~~~~~
              i think she chose that particular dish out of necessity, simply because her range is so limited. i can assure you it had nothing to do with Beverly Hills - i used to live there and nothing about it said BH to me! even if she was going for an old-school, classic dish, she needed to elevate it somehow. she even talked about it being comfort food in her presentation, and that had everything to do with HER POV, and nothing to do with the neighborhood - if you're talking about Beverly Hills comfort food, my mind immediately goes to Jewish deli from Nate & Al's or Barney Greengrass (though in that case one of them could have just done the Fairfax neighborhood...)

              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                I completely agree, and I think that's why they sent her home.

                ~TDQ

                1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                  Actually, I think the Fairfax neighborhood would have been a great choice :-)

              2. re: chowser

                While I'm ready for Aria to go home in general, I *do* feel it was her right to describe her own dish and can understand that she thought Aarti would give an overall spiel then she'd talk about her dish the way all the other chefs did. But when she did talk, it wasn't so great. Lots of people really messed up. I think it'll definitely be Aarti's to lose since she has a unique view and her accent is so great and relaxing.

                The one thing I didn't get was Brad's lamb chops weren't cooking and he supposedly had 3 min left. They're saying he had enough time to try the oven, cut them in half, get them on a grill and plate in 3 min?! Not sure about that.

                1. re: Joanie

                  Oh, yes, and the lamb chops. Maybe it was edited out, but I was expecting some more humility from Brad--it was Herb who saved the lamb chops by deciding to cut them in half and grill them. I'm not a huge fan of Herb--I find him to be all over the map "energy" wise, and his "highs" are a bit manic for me-- but I felt bad that he saved the day with the lamb chops, perhaps at the expense of his own dish. I just wish we'd seen Brad acknowledge that.

                  ~TDQ

                  1. re: The Dairy Queen

                    Good point. That was a great save by Herb. And in lovely contrast to Aria's comment at the beginning of the challenge about how it was in her best interest to see Aarti do poorly managing things.

                    Joanie, I'm pretty sure there's tons of timeline shifting done in the editing, and sure there was more than 3 minutes left when herb had that idea.

                    1. re: The Dairy Queen

                      They actually all got a ton of help and it was nice to see everyone kicking in. No one really acknowledged that tho.

                      1. re: Joanie

                        No, although it might have been taken into account during the judging. The panel was really unhappy with Herb's dish and told him so, but he lived to cook another day, so, maybe they cut him some slack, even after scolding him for playing "host" a little too much.

                        ~TDQ

                    2. re: Joanie

                      Had Aarti already started talking about Aria's dish? I don't recall what she had said/was saying, but for some reason I thought she was still just doing an intro for the night.

                      1. re: debbiel

                        Debbiel, you are correct, Aarti had not finished introducing the concept of "My L.A." Aria cut her off, not cool.

                2. I do think Serena was the right choice to go. I am rooting for Brad now. I know food network does dumb down the challenges but I was kind of offended bt the screen challenge where they had to make a dish for a busy mom. The challenge in itself makes sense because the network caters towards home cooks, but all of the discussion was about moms, seemed very sexist to me. Even after Herb mentioned he was a stay at home dad. I'm normally not that offended by that but this for some reason really got under my skin.

                  1. I wanted Aria to go. She is really beginning to bug me. I think they were very sad to say goodbye to Serena, but she needed to go too.

                    I don't think Aarti was trying to sabotage the dinner - that wouldn't be in her best interest. I think Tom chose seafood first, so she wanted Serena to choose something else.

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                    1. re: kprange

                      I don't think Aarti was trying to sabotage the dinner (that wouldn't have been in her best interest as team leader) but Serena specifically by putting her back in her pasta box making her seem like a one-trick pony.

                      I am getting tired of Aria, but there's a nagging part of me that thinks she could really be a natural at the seasonal and local "from the farm" thing if she focused. Aarti is starting to rub me the wrong way. She makes everything about her and about her faux insecurities and so on. I am finding her increasingly disingenuous.

                      ~TDQ

                    2. Cooking Con Sabor...I'd watch it. If Herb can round it out a bit, I think it's a concept that's got some legs. He can still bring in his "healthy" perspective because most of the U.S. considers Mexican and Latin food in general to be unhealthy. Nothing could be further from the truth. Most Latin cuisines make tremendous use of fresh fruit, vegetables, bean/legumes, fish and lean meats (okay, carnitas not withstanding) and can be quite healthful. Healthy Latin cooking would be a great concept for a show.

                      Having grown up in SoCal and lived in the greater Los Angeles area for nearly 20 years, I can't say that any of the food represented the diversity of L.A. Great idea, poor execution. Carrot soup for Santa Monica...puleeze. Aarti (Arteisa, funny how she knew about that) and Herb (East L.A.), in spite of his over cooked flan, came closest. The rest really tanked. No one served food that I, a native Californian and former Angeleno, would want to eat, not one of them.

                      Serena really grated last night, Tom just wasn't funny, Aria shouldn't have ever given up her fresh/organic theme, Brad was bland, Herb found new energy and Aarti was polished as always. This is Aarti's to loose, I don't see any of the others doing enough of the ugly duck transformation to overtake her at this point.

                      1. It was definitely time for Serena to go. Enough with the pasta. and sorry, but pasta alla norma for a bunch of food snobs--er, foodies? Yikes. That doomed her right there.
                        That said, I wasn't impressed with ANY of the dishes sent out to the foodies. Those underground dinners are full of exotic, crazy dishes like sheep's brain and dog's ass. Kidding. But you know what I mean. Everyone's offerings were so pedestrian. Even the anointed one, Aarti's green curry, which did, indeed look delicious. That brings me to Aarti. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Her gosh, golly, who me attitude is bugging the bejeezus out of me. Despite the fact that she annoys me, her food does sound quite deelish and right up my alley. However, I finally watched The Cooking Channel yesterday and noticed they already have an Indian cooking show there, The Spice Goddess, which looks excellent and the chef doesn't seem nearly as annoying as Aarti. So Aarti Party better up her ante or the party's over for me. Brad is a strong fave on this end but he does need to get his game back on. He had it last week and this week kind of floundered.
                        Going home soon: Aaria, I'm afraid. Loved her on week one and since then she's gone totally Titanic. Shame. Tom also blew last night but if he can buck up, he has a shot because it seems that he is a very capable chef. Herb, ehhhh. Herb. I dunno. He's got a nice TV presence but the whole Latin thing--especially being that I live in Miami---seems a little hackneyed already. Unless he can bring something different to the table on that one, Herb's toast too.

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                        1. re: HabaneroJane

                          It ain't Top Chef and this week's episode made that very obvious. On the other hand, this season of Top Chef isn't exactly what we've come to expect so go figure.

                          1. re: chicgail

                            indeed! this one is much more about marketing/branding/personality and thus far I'm not inclined to buy/watch anything from anyone here..ok, ok, confession:maybe some of Aarti's stuff if she drops her me so humble shtick.

                            1. re: HabaneroJane

                              Aarti Party sounds so juvenile to me.

                              ~TDQ

                              1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                i cringe every time she says it.

                                1. re: HabaneroJane

                                  She strikes me as someone who has excelled at everything she's done in her life. She expects to win, because she always wins. It's what she's used to. Her me so humble schtick doesn't fool me one bit and it's when she DOESN'T do well that throws her for a loop. She doesn't really have a canned response for when she doesnt' do well, because she's not used to that.

                                  ~TDQ

                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                    TDQ--my thoughts EXACTLY. spot on. Yep. "What? I didn't study for that test, how did I get a 200 out of a possible 150?" What? I won? Nawww. Her congrats to Brad was a little forced and phony and when Serena came in and said she was going, once again Aarti couldn't feign surprise. "What?" Ugh. Like nails against a chalkboard.

                                    1. re: HabaneroJane

                                      YES! Exactly!

                                      ~TDQ

                        2. I think this is Aarti's to lose at this point. If she keeps hitting all the camera and food challenges as well as she has up to this point, I don't see how she can lose.

                          I think Tom and Herb may be in the finals, but I don't think either one can beat her at this point. They are too inconsistent and too wishy-washy in their point of view and I still don't think Tom really wants this, I think he just did this to find a job and hoped someone would see him on this and hire him. He has Amy Finley written all over him.

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                          1. re: Manassas64

                            Aarti seems to be the pre-determined winner, yes. And if she does win, the first thing they need to do is 86 that horrific 'Aarti Party' title/concept.

                            1. re: HabaneroJane

                              ha! Jane, i don't even need to post anymore. you & i always say/think the exact same things about TC and TNFNS :) i said the first week that i thought Aarti Party was a crappy name.

                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                hey goodhealthgourmet, great minds....meanwhile, still thinking Brad belongs on Top Chef. Too bad they can't do a midshow switcheroo!

                              2. re: HabaneroJane

                                HA! I couldn't agree more about "Aarti Party"--it rankles me whenever she says it.

                                ~TDQ

                                1. re: HabaneroJane

                                  I'm anti-Aarti Party, too. It's too kindergarten-y and tells nothing about the show.

                                  1. re: chowser

                                    Y'know, if Aarti gets her own show on FN, she's going to look like a goofball amateur next to the Spice Goddess airing on Cooking Channel.

                                    And, really, Bal Arneson from the Spice Goddess just seems like a better, more refined version of Aarti on all levels -- cooking skills, looks, mannerisms, etc.

                                    1. re: ipsedixit

                                      I said the same thing re: Spice Goddess vs. Aarti!

                                      1. re: HabaneroJane

                                        I don't want this to lead into tangential discussion on Spice Goddess, but I must say that I really enjoy that show.

                                        I realize the things she's cooking is pretty basic and mundane, but as a newbie to Indian cooking, I find it pretty interesting.

                                      2. re: ipsedixit

                                        I haven't found the Cooking Channel yet (we have over 800 stations, how do you find one specific one???) but look forward to seeing Spice Goddess. I think Aarti is the strongest one on the show but I don't see myself watching her.

                                        1. re: chowser

                                          The cooking channel is just one higher (or lower?) than the FN. It's the one that used to be Fine Living.

                                          ~TDQ

                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                            Thanks--I just checked out their site to find it. I didn't realize we could get it. It's nowhere near FTV for my cable. What is Fine Living? I watch about half a dozen stations out of the 800+ we get. Time to get exploring. First stop, Cooking channel.

                                            1. re: chowser

                                              Fine Living is defunct, replaced by the Cooking Channel.

                                              EDIT: I think all they did was change their name and their programming. They were associated with FN when they were Fine Living and they are still associated with FN now that they are the cooking channel. I think CC is trying to appeal to a younger, more hip audience. Or, maybe, a foodier audience. Can't quite tell yet.

                                              ~TDQ

                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                Darn, we don't get it. I have to pay extra for it.:-( I guess I'm stuck with Aarti Party.

                                                1. re: chowser

                                                  Chowser,

                                                  Who's your cable TV provider? Usu. the hotels in DC that I stay at have DirecTV and it's on 232 (and Food Channel is 231)

                                                  1. re: ipsedixit

                                                    Cox. When I try to go to the station, it say not available. Oh, we have DVR so our channels are different even from regular Cox. Hey, if you're in the DC area, we should meet up! We can go the A&J's for authentic Taiwanese food, give or take a few political discussions.

                                                    1. re: chowser

                                                      "Hey, if you're in the DC area, we should meet up! We can go the A&J's for authentic Taiwanese food, give or take a few political discussions."
                                                      _______________________________________

                                                      Ok, will do.

                                                      And if you're ever in LA ... I'll feed you silly on so much great Taiwanese grub that you may never go back to DC. :-)

                                                      1. re: ipsedixit

                                                        Sounds great especially since I always feel like a California girl at heart (lived in LA area, Monterey, SF) and feel like a transplant here.

                                            2. re: The Dairy Queen

                                              "The cooking channel is just one higher (or lower?) than the FN."
                                              ~~~~~~
                                              not in all markets. here on TWC in San Diego, FN is 51, and Cooking Channel is 204.

                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                Not for me - TCC is in the 200s on my digital cable, whereas TFN is 40. I was going to suggest to Chowser to check TVGuide Online for the local cable listing for TCC, but I see it's been found. :-)

                                            3. re: ipsedixit

                                              To be fair, I think that all of the programmed shows, planned out, directed, shot in three takes and editied, are all going to look a lot more refined than half hour or hour competitions.

                                      3. I think it's important for us to remember that most of this show is done for entertainment factor and not to find the best TV host. One week they are hammering on the contestants about not sticking enough to their "point of view" and the next week the contestants are presented with a challenge to cook "LA Type" food, regardless of whether or not it fits their POV or not. I have never seen a successful TV host have to endure such challenges (unless you're watching Iron Chef).

                                        Seriously, I own a catering company and I know how long it takes to put on a top quality dinner, using real china. One hour? That is hardly enough time to let them present their best food and do it well for a hyper-critical group of "foodies."

                                        Don't get me started on the pathetic breakfast challenge. So the housewife is short on time and the only thing in the pantry is corn flakes? Oh, and some nice chicken cutlets and fresh veggies. I would love to see some housewives (or house-husbands) running around crushing up cereal in their 20 minute meal. I guess they're experimenting on a replacement for Rachel Ray's 30-Minute meals.

                                        Not sure why I still watch this show, but I do. There, I admitted it ;-)

                                        -Kevin

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                                        1. re: UptownKevin

                                          Yeah, the amount of time allowed for this dinner party was stupid.

                                          1. re: UptownKevin

                                            "Don't get me started on the pathetic breakfast challenge. "
                                            ~~~~~~
                                            it had nothing to do with the actual challenges a real housewife might face. it was an excuse for product placement and a plug for Kellogg's cereals.

                                            1. re: UptownKevin

                                              I thought the same thing. Why would you encrust that lovely tuna with breakfast cereal?

                                              I read somewhere (wikipedia I think) that one of the recent finales of NFNS was the highest-rated FN program ever. I think they've realized NFNS itself is the most valuable part of all of this.

                                              And, yes, I don't know why I watch it either.

                                              ~TDQ

                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                We watch, not because we're really interested in who will win, but because it's such an entertaining train wreck every week.

                                                I watch TNFNS every season, but I have NEVER (except once on the cross trainer at the gym) watched the winners show. The winner doesn't interest me, their show doesn't interest me, the weekly train wreck that is TNFNS I somehow find fascinating.

                                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                                  The only winner I've watched is Guy and that's on DD & D. I have not watched his cooking show.

                                                  But I have an unexplained crush on Guy. He is the polor opposite of me as far as style but he seems like a hell of a fun guy.

                                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                                    Yes, there is something to that, I think. My first season was the "Jag"/Amy season and what a train wreck that was.

                                                    Even though I didn't watch the season Guy Fieri won, he truly has become a "star," even crossing over into regular network non-food TV. Whether you like him or not, somehow, that gives TNFNS some legitimacy, in a weird way. Someone really might become a star!

                                                    So, that, plus the train-wreckness, makes it very compelling.

                                                    ~TDQ

                                                    1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                                      it's a heck of a lot more fun to watch than that insipid 24 Hour Restaurant Wars, that's for sure.

                                                    2. re: DiningDiva

                                                      I'm with DiningDiva on this. I don't watch the winners' shows. In fact, the only shows I really watch on FN these days are ICA and TNFNS.

                                                  2. re: UptownKevin

                                                    Breakfast challenge--piece of cake. I told my kids it would be rice krispie treats, shaped into a burger and fries. Done with time to spare. I'm the grown up, I get to decide what's for dinner.;-) Seriously, though, those w/ sweet breakfast cereals were at a huge disadvantage. Fruit Loops in a dinner is far harder than corn flakes where there are dozens of recipes out there. Why don't they keep the challenge more fair--everyone has the same cereal or something.

                                                  3. Now that Herb seems to have had his meds adjusted, I sort of like him.

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                                                    1. re: C. Hamster

                                                      ha! C.Hamster---good point. He has taken his happy pills (this week)!

                                                    2. I guess I'm chiming in a bit late since I get my program via Slingbox and DVR while I'm overseas, so here are some of my observations:

                                                      Serena was on borrowed time from the beginning. She never really improved and did not have enough expertise beyond pasta.

                                                      Brad really bores me to death. What can he teach me (or others) that I don't really know?

                                                      Aria is mediocre and doesn't seem to have enough culinary imagination when it comes to the challenges. I thought she could have done a "farm to table" sort of show which would be more unique than "family style."

                                                      Tom - While he certainly has some creativity, he comes across as lazy...

                                                      Herb - They shouldn't allow people to change their POV in the middle. Cooking con sabor? Please don't make it a "Latin" food show. Do we have "European" shows? Say it is Cuban inspired if that is the direction. Cuban food is much different from Argentine, Chilean, Mexican, Venezuelan, etc.

                                                      Aarti - Combing several websites, including Food Network Humor, apparently the network made a major gaffe and added her to the bio page under chefs on their website (and subsequently added the others MUCH later). Nonetheless, I also feel that she is utterly dull. If people are going to criticize Serena for just making pasta, Aarti only makes "Indian" food or "curry." If "Indian" food is what the network is going to give viewers, does she have the expertise to tell about the various regions and foods?

                                                      Yes, I know it is TV, but what does it tell you that the best chef (Brianna) was sent home so early? Bob and Susie have run the network into the ground and dumbed it down to please the soccer mom and stay at home dad. The food is clearly secondary and that is terrible. And the product placement is getting as bad as Top Chef.

                                                      Lastly, the "Supper Club"" episode and the invited chefs made me cringe. How flaky and self absorbed did some of those people seem? I think the smog in LA has really done a number on their personality (or lack thereof).

                                                      Maybe they should just cut their losses and announce the return of some real chefs who have something to teach and be entertaining. Oh, but they probably can't make meals in 15 minutes...

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                                                      1. re: vinhotinto75

                                                        So I guess it's the Vin HOT in 75 Show for the coming season, is that why you're saying?

                                                        1. re: vinhotinto75

                                                          Brianna, really? She had no personality in front of the camera and that is what they talked about. She could cook, but didn't click at all with an audience or the camera. I wouldn't watch her show if you paid me. She came across as totally self involved to me.

                                                          1. re: kprange

                                                            the show is all about personality in front of camera in order to promote a new cooking show. Yes they have to be able to cook, think food on their feet (to a point because presumably the shows use tried and tested recipes and are pretaped).

                                                            To be honest anyone who presents in front of camera or on radio must have some personality and ability to fill air and must be liked in some form by enough people to watch or listen. They can be controversial but still they have to attract viewers/listeners.

                                                            The producers of NFNS know what they are looking for, personality, a TV face and some ability to cook and present a new show. But the NFNS makes good TV too!

                                                            1. re: kprange

                                                              I agree that Brianna was awful and dreadful. But quite honestly, I think they all are!

                                                              Just because somebody uses Curry or cooks in a style that is not "represented" on the channel is not a new or cutting edge POV.

                                                              I understand the personality, ratings, viewers aspect, but the entire network has been transformed into dumbed-down culinary shows and cupcake contests. Do they REALLY think the past winners are STARS like Emeril, Batali, or Wolfgang Puck who used to be on the network?

                                                              Lastly, what is the obsession with the personal connection and anecdotes? I understand the literary and anthropological connections that food and cuisine often have, yet the storylines are often SO scripted and often cliché.

                                                              I suppose my whole point is that the network has gone completely downhill and obsessed with mediocrity and pleasing a demographic that cares about convenience and not food.

                                                              1. re: vinhotinto75

                                                                I understand your point and agree with it. I think you are correct in saying the quality of the programming has gone downhill and has been homogenized to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

                                                                1. re: vinhotinto75

                                                                  i have to agree with everything you just said.

                                                                  in terms of this show actually generating a true "star," Guy Fieri is the only one who comes remotely close, and i don't think he even cooks anymore! plus, his appeal is definitely not universal (though i guess Emeril's isn't either).

                                                                  Melissa's guest appearance on this episode reminded me of just how little star power & appeal most of these contestants (and winners) really possess. i thought her delivery was forced and fake, and found it painful to watch. of course i couldn't stand her when she was competing for the title last summer...

                                                                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                    Hey, did anyone else notice that Melissa and Giada were wearing almost the exact same black dress? How did the producers let that go?

                                                                    I found my attention on the dresses, rather than the contestants, the food or the judging, because I was trying to figure out if it really was the exact same dress (I finally decided that it wasn't).

                                                                    1. re: chicgail

                                                                      yes! i meant to ask if anyone else found it distracting. i did the same thing as you - kept glancing back & forth between the two, comparing them.

                                                                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                        I noticed it in the promos, actually, and almost commented on it before the show aired, but decided against it case people hadn't seen the promos and like being surprised by who the guest personality is.

                                                                        It was hard not to compare the two and, in the end, decided that neither one looked great in the dress. Had they not dressed them the same, I probably wouldn't have felt compelled to pick them apart.

                                                                        Could it have been a coincidence? Or did they really dress them the same on purpose?

                                                                        ~TDQ

                                                                      2. re: chicgail

                                                                        Yes, I noticed the dresses too. I kept wondering why they allowed Giada to wear what appeared to be a cocktail dress in the middle of the day when everyone else was dressed so casually.

                                                                        I thought the cut of the dress, the flared hem and the pinched waist only magnified the misproporitions between her head and her body.

                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                          Wow, and all I thought was what a tiny waist - wish my waist were that small.

                                                                          1. re: kprange

                                                                            I've given up on that quest ;-)

                                                                    2. re: vinhotinto75

                                                                      The network is EXACTLY what America wants. They are the Applebees of television. Sad, but true.

                                                                      1. re: UptownKevin

                                                                        I strongly dislike Applebee's

                                                                        1. re: kprange

                                                                          I think that was Kevin's point.

                                                                          1. re: chicgail

                                                                            Oh, I know - I just really dislike Applebee's - I like some of FN, but not all, but I don't like Applebee's at all, for whatever that is worth.

                                                                2. So glad Serena is gone.
                                                                  Aria's interruption of Aarti's introduction was very rude, considering her experience with Dzintra!
                                                                  Tom came across as totally lazy this week.
                                                                  I'm pulling for Brad, Herb and Aarti to be the final 3.

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                                                                  1. re: jujuthomas

                                                                    I like Aarti and Herb.

                                                                    1. re: kprange

                                                                      Hard to imagine any scenario where Aarti doesnt win. Pulling for Tom to get a show eventually though

                                                                  2. I have a feeling that Aarti is already anointed for the win because the judging is almost always biased in praise of her, especially in this episode. I was kind of annoyed that the judging panel pretty much overlooked her abysmal performance as a team leader. Here are a number of reasons that she did a poor job IMO:

                                                                    1) The entire theme of "our interpretation of LA food." I'm not from LA but have traveled extensively there and every dish but Aarti's didn't seem to represent the area of LA they were cooking for. Plus, it seemed like there was no "unifying" theme to any of the dishes to tie them all together. It was basically everybody cook whatever you want.

                                                                    2) All of the food was pretty bad except for Aarti's curry and Brad's lamb. It seems that she was much more focused on her dish at the expense of others. I can grant her that point, it is a competition, but when the rest of the team's food can't be done in the time frame or is really bad while the leader is the only one to shine then something seems amiss.

                                                                    3) Herb "appeared" to be the real team leader, was helping out throughout the kitchen and dining room sadly to the detriment of his own flan. I saw no appearance of Aarti thanking him, him taking credit for this at the cost of his dish at judging, and the judges even noticing how much extra he gave in the service.

                                                                    4) Cook something besides curry!!!!, too one-dimensional!

                                                                    P.S. I agree with you too HabaneroJane about the show name "Aarti Party." I cringe everytime I hear it and it reminds me of the bathroom for some reason because it sounds like "Aarti Potty to me =/)
                                                                    I think Aria will be the next to go (then Tom).

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                                                                    1. re: gmk1322

                                                                      #1 - Aarti is from Los Angeles, she referenced Artesia, of course her food would look like it belonged.

                                                                      1. re: gmk1322

                                                                        I thought Aarti should have gone home the week of the Sinatra episode. This is a woman who grew up in DUBAI and lives in LOS ANGELES! You would think she would know how to make a meal a little lavish and over the top! Both places are known for excess.

                                                                        Instead, she prepares a dish - one very horrible according to the judges - that would have made Sinatra or one of his entourage cringe. I really could imagine Sinatra ordering curry or some sort of pilaf!

                                                                        Still, it has been rumoured that she will win and I'm sure the braintrust at the network are already salivating over her special curry sauce with the FN logo that they can sell at your local market or department store. Her POV is "so unique because we've never had a chef of <insert quality> who might appeal to a certain demographic or audience."

                                                                        I wonder who is going to tell the sob story next week and get the judges to cry?

                                                                      2. Herb apparently switched gears and has gone Latino. That's fine, but let's cut the "aren't you impressed with my Spanish?". It was showing off and ingenuous.
                                                                        Aria-I hope she gets booted if only for wishing to win due to her fellow contestants failing. That's what losers do. Winners want to be their opponent on their best day. Interrupting Aarti was cringe-worthy.
                                                                        Speaking of cringe-worthy, Oh Solo Mio! I had to avert my eyes on that one and ps...6 year olds can make pasta with marinara. Unless it's handmade, you're not impressing anyone.
                                                                        Tom had a bad week, but I hope he rallies. He's got a relatable persona.
                                                                        Aarti did very well this week and she just may make it to the winner's circle.
                                                                        Overall, I just don't know if I'd watch any of their shows, yet here I am....addicted to TNFNS!!

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                                                                        1. re: monavano

                                                                          Oh, Bob's face when Serena sang "Oh, solo mio" was priceless. We had a good laugh at that. I wonder if that's one of those moments in her life that she looks back on and thinks, "I can't believe I did that!!!"

                                                                          1. re: chowser

                                                                            I think Serena is cute and this is not the last we have seen of her. I think she'll show up some place again soon.