Hell's Kitchen tonight! Two episodes, which two are going home! and Spoilers!

[Firegoat]

Okay, I don't have any spoilers yet. But I loved the NFNS thread where people put in who they thought would go home BEFORE the show was on. Tonight we have two episodes. So pick two.... obviously after tonight tons of spoilers for the Tivo'ing crowd.

People left:
Ed
Ben
Jay
Holli
Autumn
Jason

My final two? Jay and Holli
Who can go home tonight? Autumn
Torn with Ben and Jason. Trying to make up my mind there... afraid the editing monkeys are playing with me on how good or bad they are.

[Firegoat]

If anyone is at all curious, I asked Jay Santos (Bluejay) what pantry items they were allowed to use in the $10 challenge if he could tell me. Apparently he could and those items were in his words: butter, herbs, oil S&P included, nothing else

Just thought I'd share ... I love the challenges.

[C. Hamster]

What happens NEXT week with their flirting that causes Chef Ramsay to do something HE'S NEVER DONE BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF HELL'S KITCHEN??? :-) Does he have to separate the two lovebirds?

I am not sure how I will survive the hundred plus hours I must wait until Chef Ramsay reveals that which HE'S NEVER DONE BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF HELL'S KITCHEN!

[LindaWhit]

And what ARE you going to do UNTIL THEN, C.Hamster?

You will probably end up WRITING IN CAPITAL LETTERS for the next SEVERAL HUNDRED HOURS in your biggest ANTICIPATION YET of something that Chef Ramsay has NEVER YET DONE IN THE HISTORY OF HELL'S KITCHEN!

[HabaneroJane]

@Linda and @cHamster hahahahah. or, rather, HA!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dave_c]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ramsay's "NEVER DONE BEFORE" is unrelated to the Holli and Jay's TV romance. Holli talking about love is probably about her baby.

The way teasers are edited on the show, I wouldn't be surprised if the producers just worked two unrelated drops to make it sound like more.

[LindaWhit]

Party pooper. ;-)

[celfie]

I find holli insanely hot
jay on the other hand is too ugly to even look at
he's a damned fool

[Firegoat]

he's smart enough to want to get in holli's panties. So not that big a fool.

[HabaneroJane]

I'm a straight chick and don't quite see what y'all are drooling over with Holli. At all. Maybe it was the fact that she mentioned she had a huge porn collection?

[Firegoat]

as another straight chick, I think she has stayed out of most of the really nasty bashing of other people, and seems genuinely pretty nice. Could just be editing monkeys. I think she is attractive, (not enough to turn me lesbian) but still a very pretty young woman.

[dave_c]

Holli is photogenic and very cute. She has a great smile and not a big whiner which is another plus. lol

[HabaneroJane]

Ben is so grating on my nerves and no he is not a capable leader. And he doesnt seem to be a great chef either, landing (to my delight) near the bottom in the value challenge. That rocked! Jason deserved to go (WHO BUYS PRE MADE RAVIOLI IN A COOKING COMPETITION?!) and Ed, too. Holli and Autumn coming from behind was kind of exciting to watch, but in general, this year's bunch is an insipid, uninspiring one.

[Joanie]

Didn't you think it was weird that Ben still kept quiet even tho everyone is yelling at him to talk? All he had to do was yell some 'yes chefs' and they'd probably shut up about it. Same thing with Jay, just yell it out mindlessly if that's something they'll dock you for.

[HabaneroJane]

Yes! It was making me mad. I was screaming at the TV, 'say something to shut him up'! They are like deer in headlights. And then when Ben goes and tries to take initiative when Gordon steps out and usurps the sous chef's role....moron! (good TV tho!)

[LindaWhit]

LOL! I couldn't believe he thought he could do that, Jane!

I would like to ask Jay (if I ever get back to Gargoyles) to ask him if you really blank out that much during service so that you just don't hear what anyone is saying to you, much less GR. :-)

Hasn't it been said in the past that this type of set-up - where things are put together at the pass by someone not actually cooking the food - isn't a usual restaurant kitchen set-up? So wouldn't that add to the general confusion?

[kprange]

When I worked in a kitchen, we had someone who worked the hot side, someone who worked the cold side, and someone who worked the flattop/garnish/lead station. Whoever cooked steaks, for example, didn't finish the plate, or garnish. While GR's kitchen is so much bigger, the system isn't all that different.

I meant to say garnish/fry area. The cold side also ran the flat top - hot I know, but that was the way it was in our kitchen

[LindaWhit]

Thanks for the clarification. However, did *one* of those people finish the plate, or did someone who didn't have a hand in the cooking at all put all of the components together?

I'm thinking of one of chefs whose kitchen I've seen - I *think* there's 3 on the cooking end of things in his kitchen (I could be wrong, but I think it's 3 or 4). But in a smaller kitchen, wouldn't the EC be cooking and doing most of the plating?

As you can tell, I have absolutely *no* knowledge of how a restaurant kitchen works - large or small. :-)

[kprange]

The person on garnish/fry area finished the plates and called out the orders. There usually isn't enough extra money to have someone just getting the food ready. If it was really busy the EC or the SC would step in and run the show till we were out of the weeds. They usually didn't cook, just ran the board.

[coney with everything]

"All he had to do was yell some 'yes chefs' "

Mais non, he would have to yell "oui chef" because he's such a sophisticated guy!

[libgirl2]

When I saw the store bought ravioli, I thought "he is gone". Why -oh-why did he think that would pass?

Ben is a pain, no leadership quality there.

I like Holli and Autumn the most. I am also getting a feeling Autumn might just win.

[chowser]

Given that last season he picked "most improved" over best cook, Autumn could win. What a slap in the face that would be to all those who've said she can't do anything!

[Firegoat]

Here's a post elimination interview with Ed and Jason where they both discuss Autumn.

Q. Gina, RealityWanted: Autumn has been nominated for elimination several times. Is she really that bad or is there some sort of strategy going on in trying to get her out?
A. Ed: Autumn sucks.
A. Jason: She's definitely the weakest, no question. You don't have to take this from us. You might think were arrogant. I promise you, though. I'm just saying! Does Autumn deserve to be in the final four? Absolutely not. Nobody thinks that she deserves to be there, besides her boyfriend and her parents. Autumn is more the ditzy, cute, "Oh, hello, I woke up in the world today. Oh, is that the sun?" kind of girl. Come on! Stop it! Stop playing! There's no way she should be there!
http://www.realitywanted.com/newsitem...

[chowser]

Ow, comments like that from "frozen ravioli" Jason and NakED. They both thought they were wonderful but no one other did either. Does anyone there deserve to be in the final four, other than by default, when you come right down to it?

[LindaWhit]

I avoided this thread because I didn't want to see who went home. :-) But I would have thought Autumn as well, along with Jason. Was surprised to see Ed tank.

And Firegoat, you think Jason (not BlueJay) is better than Ben? I don't think so. I also think it'll be Jay and Holli in the end - but OH MY! What happens NEXT week with their flirting that causes Chef Ramsay to do something HE'S NEVER DONE BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF HELL'S KITCHEN??? :-) Does he have to separate the two lovebirds?

And last night, I couldn't help but hear "Oui Chef!" from Ben. Blech.

[Firegoat]

I think Ben is the better chef. But damn that boy is annoying. Every chef at the Savoy would kill him within a week. I was sad to see Ed go down.

[LindaWhit]

I was sorry to see Ed go as well. And agree re: Ben - annoying as all get-out - but I do know he and BlueJay are friends, so I guess he can't be all bad. :-) I think my reasoning is partly because he has a "weak chin". Yeah, I know - stupid reason.

But thankfully he has a better haircut now. Cannot BELIEVE Ben's wife liked it better long. Girlfriend - that was a REALLY bad cut for him! LOL

[Firegoat]

He looks a THOUSAND times better with the hair cut. Jason had it spot on... Shaggy from Scooby Doo. Holli's myspace paged allegedly had her as a lesbian. Another site had her as bi. So I was surprised by her having a kid as well as the Jay flirtation. Her food and work seem pretty solid tho,

[coney with everything]

TWOP is calling Ben "Cletus", which I think fits quite well.

Hate hate hate the Holli/Jay thing. Totally skeezy

[LindaWhit]

Tee hee on the nickname - and I'd forgotten to check out TWoP for HK this season!

And yeah, I wasn't overly thrilled to hear Jay's comments in the confessional about Holli and see them in the hot tub (and read those quiet comments as well). A bit skeevy. But I guess when you're cooped up in an apt. and the kitchen, it's bound to happen.

[Joanie]

I actually watched most of this since I was curious how Jay was doing and knew it was getting down to the last batch. I found it odd/stupid that the 2nd guy in charge started screaming at Ben as if he had to keep up with being a douche like Gordon. And I've probably missed things since I'm not watching, but Autumn doesn't seem as bad as everyone makes her out to be.

[LindaWhit]

Yeah, watching #2 do the whole drill sergeant thing with Ben was a bit much.

And Autumn was worse in the beginning when she was on the women's team. She *has* gotten better. Although she does talk a LOT. :-)

[Fydeaux]

Like the song says, "Believe have of what you see, and none of what you hear". Autumn taaks a lot when it is edited to show he talking a lot.

[LindaWhit]

Good point.

[greygarious]

I haven't seen the show in a couple of years until tonight. Ramsay seemed pretty tame but that's likely because the competition is close to the end and the ones left are pretty competent. I did notice that Ben, in talking to the bearded European chef judging the entrees, mispronounced "provençal", with a hard "c". I think he was credited as a cooking instructor and should have known the correct pronunciation, as should anyone who's gotten that far in a professional competition. However, the judge criticized him for not cooking his ratatouille-inspired vegetables together, commenting that they should be done that way according to tradition. He'd get an argument on that one, there being a large faction that says ratatouille components are cooked separately and then assembled. If Ben knew that and said so, it didn't make it to the screen.

As typical in "reality" TV contests, plenty of back-stabbing hypocrisy. No matter how you slice it, not an appetizing show!

[chowser]

We had a good laugh at the provencal pronunciation, mostly because Ben is so pretentious. He has a terrible service and thinks he did well?

[Sooeygun]

Ben's mispronunciation of 'Provençal' was especially funny considering how much he mocked Siobhan about her pronunciation of 'challah'. Oh, that and his constant 'oui, chef.'

The previews for next week seemed full of misdirection. I'm pretty sure Holli's 'I love him' was about her son not about the Smurf.

[LindaWhit]

Oooh, good point on Ben's being all over Siobhan re: "challah". And he made a BIG deal of that.

I heard the Provençal mispronunciation, and thought "HUH?" Being French trained, shouldn't he know how to pronounce it?

[coney with everything]

I'd forgotten about him being an ass about "challah"

He probably says DOWSH instead of Doosh when describing himself.

Can you tell I DON'T LIKE BEN?

[Firegoat]

I have to admit... as crappy as it is I love the show.

[jujuthomas]

me too! and my "I hate reality tv" hubby got sucked in as well. lol

[Firegoat]

I honestly watch no other show in the summer. But it is the one night the boyfriend can be assured I'll cook dinner as I love eating and watchng. Tonigh I'm roasting a half chicken, home made bread and YES... box made potato au gratin! condemn me now!!!!!

[Firegoat]

oh and the chicken was awesome.... but ED!!!!! NOT MY BELOVED ED!!!!!

[smartie]

Autumn and Ben for me, she is out of her depth and he is too cocky and smarmy and I don't think he's as good as he says plus he is not a team player.

[jujuthomas]

gosh I hope Autumn goes home! I think of Ben and Jason, Jason should go home first, as much as Ben annoys me with his condescension, I think he's a better chef. but oh, if he says "Oui Chef" too much tonight I might throw something at the tv! lol

[Firegoat]

okay yes. the Oui chef has to go.

[coney with everything]

+1 pour "oui chef aux guillotine, VITE".

Je deteste Ben.

And as Greygarious says downthread, Monsieur Pretentious mispronounced Provencal. Quel douche.

[LindaWhit]

"Quel douche."

ROFLMAO!!! Love it. :-)

[jujuthomas]

"Quel douche"
awesome. he's such an ass.
sooo wanted him to get the eff out!