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Homemade caramel what I am doing wrong?

YAYME Jul 20, 2010 04:47 AM

In the past year I've been attempting to make caramel at home. I have the ingredients down pat: sugar, water, salt. I put it on the stove and let it boil. I watch it. One time it burned. This time I watched closer. It turned brown but remained transparent. It did taste alright. What did I do wrong? Do I need to invest in a candy thermometer?

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    lulou23 Jul 22, 2010 02:18 PM

    Having just recently discovered salted caramel ice cream (and salted caramels, my newest addiction), I would love to have any successful caramel ice cream or salted caramel ice cream recipes.

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    1. re: lulou23
      bushwickgirl Jul 22, 2010 02:35 PM

      Here are two very good ones to play with:

      http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Salted-Caramel-Ice-Cream-354517

      http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archives...

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      runwestierun Jul 20, 2010 03:28 PM

      YAYME, what is your intended use for the final product?

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      1. re: runwestierun
        YAYME Jul 20, 2010 04:49 PM

        Ice cream.

        1. re: YAYME
          bushwickgirl Jul 21, 2010 03:57 AM

          YAYME. I just noticed that you wrote in your OP that your caramel "remained transparent". Unless you add butter and/or cream, water and sugar cooked together until caramelized looks transparent. No problem there, that's what it does. Adding cream and/or butter will result in the sauce taking on an opaque appearance.

          The recipe I use for caramel ice cream calls for adding cream to the caramelized sugar for a caramel sauce, to mix into the ice cream custard base before freezing.

      2. dave_c Jul 20, 2010 01:23 PM

        You are technically making caramel, but one of the best caramel recipes I've tried also had heavy cream, vanilla, butter and Lytle's Golden Syrup (instead of corn syrup).

        Thank goodness for the internet... here's the recipe: http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/20...

        A candy thermometer is a good thing to have and has many uses beyond caramel.

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        1. re: dave_c
          souschef Jul 20, 2010 02:59 PM

          I just checked out that recipe. It is not a recipe for making caramel; it is a recipe for making caramels! Huge difference! Caramel is made with sugar and water, period.

          1. re: souschef
            dave_c Jul 20, 2010 03:46 PM

            My bad, as a layman, when I see caramel I assumed the OP we referring to the chewy candy.

            Also, the OP mentioned salted caramel ice cream which the recipe I listed would make a delicious caramel sauce or addition to an ice cream base.

            1. re: dave_c
              souschef Jul 22, 2010 03:54 PM

              I'm a layman too; regret choosing the handle souschef. I'm an engineer, not a chef.

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          Lisbet Jul 20, 2010 01:12 PM

          This thread has really peaked my interest, so I "googled" (salted caramel ice cream recipes and techniques). A lot of recipes and good information is available....just for the reading.

          Hope you find what you are looking for....Good Luck

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            monocle Jul 20, 2010 07:55 AM

            you are forgetting the cream (!)

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            1. re: monocle
              bushwickgirl Jul 20, 2010 09:15 AM

              Yes, that, but you don't always need cream for caramel; depends on the ultimate usage, as souschef pointed out. A thermometer is not needed specifically for caramel, but it's are a good investment for other baking projects, plus they can double as a deep fry thermometer.

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                BigE Jul 21, 2010 09:35 AM

                Could you recommend a certain model?

                1. re: BigE
                  souschef Jul 22, 2010 07:51 AM

                  I have a thermometer made by Taylor that goes from 80 to 400 degrees Fahrenheit. There is no model number marked, but the scale is about 7 inches long. In addition to temperatures, 'hard crack', 'soft ball' etc are all marked on the scale.

                  It is a mercury/glass thermometer set into a metal holder, and the temperatures in F and C are engraved into the metal. At the back of the holder is a slideable metal clip so that you can clip the unit onto a pan.

                  The lower end of the temperature range is for chocolate work, but you can't seriously use it for that as the resolution is not fine enough. For chocolate work I have (but have not used much) the Cordon Rose Chocolate Thermometer marketed by RLB.

                  1. re: souschef
                    bushwickgirl Jul 22, 2010 10:49 AM

                    Taylor, fine product and I recommend that brand also, (I own this). This model ranges from 100° to 400°:

                    http://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Classic-Deep-Fry-Analog-Thermometer/dp/B00004XSC9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1279820689&sr=1-1

                    This model from CDN ranges from 75° to 400°, but as souschef commented, you can't really use these for chocolate work and the low 75° end is not that important:

                    http://www.amazon.com/TCG400-Professi...

                    1. re: bushwickgirl
                      souschef Jul 22, 2010 11:23 AM

                      That's the one I have.

                      1. re: souschef
                        bushwickgirl Jul 22, 2010 12:54 PM

                        Like it ok?? Mine ranges from 100° to 400°, it's pretty new (purchased in the last 2 years). Is your's older? Did Taylor shorten the temp range?

                        1. re: bushwickgirl
                          souschef Jul 22, 2010 01:17 PM

                          Yup, I like it okay; I use it mainly when making buttercream. I bought it many years ago; probably more than 10. They did not shorten the range; the markings are numbered from 100, but there are gradations below than may be extrapolated to 80.

                          1. re: souschef
                            bushwickgirl Jul 22, 2010 01:25 PM

                            Oh, ok, yes that's true, I just took a better look at the thermometer. Yes, buttercream, that's mostly what I use mine for these days.

                            I just posted about your nice canelés at the "what are you baking..." thread, but dropped the post; I'll do it later; I'm a little beat (tired) today. My post was very positive, and now I want to make them also due to your enthusiastic report, but the rent must be paid before I can justify buying copper molds. I'll have to start saving my pennies in a serious way; maybe I'll stop buying cookbook for awhile.;)

            2. souschef Jul 20, 2010 06:24 AM

              It seems to me that it looked alright. If it tasted alright too what is the problem? What are you using it for? You add cream and butter only for specific purposes (e.g. making caramel sauce). If you are making it for creme caramel you just pour it directly into the baking dish.

              I have made caramel many, many times, and have never used a thermometer; I go by colour. Of course the colour varies from time to time. I never use salt.

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              1. re: souschef
                YAYME Jul 20, 2010 06:51 AM

                I use it as in ice cream. I make salted caramel ice cream.

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                Lisbet Jul 20, 2010 05:50 AM

                http://www.cheftalk.com/forums/pastri...

                Basic Caramel
                4 cups granulated sugar
                enough water to moisten the sugar
                caramelize to desired color and add:
                3 cups heavy cream to arrest the process
                4 ounces butter cubed
                2 tsp salt
                pinch of baking soda to colour

                The above given web address is a good site where you can get real professional answers.

                A candy thermometer is a good investment and a valuable addition to your kitchen tool collection. You'll find it is used for more than just candy making.

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