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Tips on making Lime sorbet less hard and easy to scoop?

lestblight Jul 19, 2010 11:37 AM

i seem to have an unnatractive scoop when i make lime sorbet

i am adding a lil tequilla to it to help but it seems to either freeze very hard or look slushy

i would like a nice scoop.. but it seems to be too water based.. any solutions? or is this how water based sorbet is?.. i find i have the same problem with watermelon sorbet as well

thanks

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    harryharry Jul 19, 2010 11:48 AM

    I think that you could try adding a small amount of corn syrup.

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      lestblight Jul 19, 2010 12:02 PM

      is there a type that is preferred? light or dark? etc?

      thank ya

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        jvanderh Jul 19, 2010 12:29 PM

        I use alcohol, but it takes quite a bit-- about two tablespoons per cup of mix. You have to use the good stuff if you're going to use that much.

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          Hank Hanover Jul 19, 2010 01:37 PM

          There is probably a lime liquer out there somewhere. or maybe a coconut liquer

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          harryharry Jul 19, 2010 02:00 PM

          This kind of explains it...http://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/19/gar...
          Light corn syrup

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        ZagChef Jul 19, 2010 01:11 PM

        invert sugar may be hard to find need a specialty store. I use tremoline which is from beets, it doesnt crystalize and keeps a nice creamy texture.

        If you cant find the invert sugar next best step would be simple syrup and during the last 5 minutes of churning add a splash of rum and whipped egg white (1/2 egg white per quart)

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          lestblight Aug 5, 2010 03:15 PM

          Would the addition of a lil gaur gum help with this? has anyone used it before?

          i also read that some puree it once it freezes to break ice crystals

          has anyone done this?

          1. re: lestblight
            mcf Aug 5, 2010 03:36 PM

            I dunno, but 1/4 cup of polydextrose powder didn't help my lemon sorbet last week, and I can't use any corn syrup or sugar, either, only non caloric sweetener.

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              Antithesisofpop Aug 6, 2010 09:14 AM

              When I used to work at a gelateria, we used Everclear or 151 grain alcohol in our sorbets. It will not intefere with the flavor and the high alcohol content reduces the freezing point more than a shot of tequila or vodka would. Try adding a shot of 151 to your recipe then gradually increasing or reducing the amount based on the quality of your freeze.

        2. greygarious Aug 5, 2010 04:36 PM

          Use plain gelatin powder or lime flavored jello - a packet for 2 or more cups liquid. Dissolve in a cup of boiling liquid, cool to room temp before blending into rest of sorbet , then freeze.

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            twj Aug 5, 2010 04:41 PM

            Oops, I was going to recommend adding vodka but I just read that you've tried the tequila. How much are you adding?

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              Quine Aug 5, 2010 04:48 PM

              " alcohol doesn't freeze,"

              Everything freezes! Just not at temps we normally used. think of dry ice. :-)
              But anyway.

              Alcohol was one of my first suggestions. A slight addition of cream was another. Both bring down the freeze point. You could also try serving sooner after your first re-blend. Serbert calls for a re-blend where you re-mix the stuff after it first freezes to break up the larger ice crystals.

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                twj Aug 5, 2010 04:51 PM

                "Everything freezes! Just not at temps we normally used. think of dry ice. :-)"

                Ah, touche. But you know what I mean... ;-)

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                  Quine Aug 5, 2010 05:21 PM

                  *wink* I did and I am glad you took it as such.

                  The raw egg white is maybe outside the comfort zone of many people.

                  But the real point is, if you want it softer, don't freeze it as long. Depending on your freezer, if you re-blend it just before you serve dinner, it should still be soft enough to serve great scoops.

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              twj Aug 5, 2010 04:56 PM

              You can also try adding a raw egg white during the last few minutes of churning. I've made a strawberry sorbet from a recipe that called for it and it seemed like it produced a nice texture.

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                fourunder Aug 5, 2010 05:42 PM

                Your problem is you are trying to scoop the sorbet while it is hard, due to the fact your freezer temperature is below 0* Fahrenheit. To properly scoop any frozen dessert, i.e., ice cream, sherbets, Italian/Water Ice and etc. the product has to be above 0*. Commercial Freezers for Ice Cream Stores set their freezers between 0*- 5*. At these settings, the products remain firm, but are easily scooped/scoopable.

                My suggestion is for you to remove the sorbets 10-15 minutes before serving and you will have solved your problem.

                Btw... frozen desserts are meant to be served above 0* and below 32*. Anything below 0* and your toungue/taste buds cannot pick up any flavors. It's the reason why frozen desserts become sweeter to taste and the product melts.

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                  mcf Aug 6, 2010 07:20 AM

                  No, that works with ice cream or sherbet, but with sorbet, like ice, you get a watery melted outside and still have ice in the rest.

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                    fourunder Aug 6, 2010 07:45 AM

                    If you have ice chips in your sorbet or water ice, it has been handled, or made improperly...

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                      mcf Aug 6, 2010 08:17 AM

                      Well, yeah. Hence this thread. ;-)

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                        fourunder Aug 6, 2010 08:35 AM

                        I've been in the food industry all my life.....including restaurants, hotels, country clubs and catering halls. I even owned ice cream stores. I've dished out my share of sorbet and Italian/Water Ice. It needs to be soft to scooped, rolled or scraped.

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                          mcf Aug 6, 2010 09:58 AM

                          I'm sure that's true, which is why I'm on this thread trying to improve the texture of my sorbet! Commercial sorbet and sherbet I used to buy never needed tempering outside the freezer to scoop it, as I recall.

                2. Funwithfood Aug 5, 2010 09:18 PM

                  It's my understanding that sugar and alcohol will make frozen desserts more pliable. I'd comp successful online recipes for ratios.

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                    L987 Aug 5, 2010 10:28 PM

                    Add about 1-2 tbsp white corn syrup to your sugar syrup (1 cup sugar 1 cup water) or you can use honey, it makes the icecream much smoother, you can also use gelatin just a small amount like ½ tsp it makes the sorbet hold its shape so it doesn't melt so fast..

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