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Feed back on " Shanghai Dim Sum "

Will be heading out next week to try out the new Shanghainese Private Kitchen - ' Shanghai Dim Sum ' at Sheppard and Brimley. According to my foodie brother-in-law who frequently head out to the Orient on business trips, this place has the BEST Shanghainese food and Northern Dim Sum outside of HK, Taiwan and China!! The meal he just had, he awarded every dish at least a 90+!! As examples, the broth and fillings of their pot stickers/buns and Xiao Lung Bao was even better than Ding Tai Fung! No! not the Markham one but the Shanghai one!!! Menu is limited since they are still tweeking the dishes.

Just wondering whether any fellow chowhounders have pre-empted my move and tried them out already?! Is the food really that good?!

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  1. Organize an exploratory expedition?

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    1. re: Kagemusha

      Ummmm?! A chowmeet there?! Good idea!

      But first, I'll see how it goes during our reconnaissance meal there next week! Don't want to risk seeing a whole bunch of fellow chowhounders pointing their fingers at me if by chance the end result is not up to expectation! Ha!!

      1. re: Charles Yu

        Hey Charles, please do report back as soon as you try it! I have a friend from Manhattan visiting next week and I was planning on taking her to Northern Dumpling Kitchen for xiao long bao and potstickers. But if this place is better, then I'll take her here instead!

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        Northern Dumpling Kitchen
        550 7 Hwy E, Richmond Hill, ON L4B3Z4, CA

        1. re: Charles Yu

          If its up to snuff Charles, I want to be at that chowmeet!

          1. re: Charles Yu

            Don't worry, Charles, we'll make sure the bruises don't show if it's a bust.

            1. re: Kagemusha

              Yeah its all about the pressure points.

        2. How do I get into a private kitchen? I very much want to try this place right away! I've eaten at ding tai fung in shanghai many times, looking for some good shanghainese for a long time

          1. Hi charles,

            Would you be able to pass on details about this place? I would like to try this place sunday or monday.

            Thanks

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            1. re: szw

              The place is called 'Shanghai Dim Sum' ( Cantonese pronounciation is Sing Wong Mui Sil Heg ) - Shanghainese private kitchen.
              Address is : 4401 Sheppard Avenue East, Scarborough ( Sheppard/Brimley )
              Tel: 647-344-3630. Just east of the railway bridge.

              My suggestion SZW, is to try it on Monday since without making reservations a week in advance. trying to secure a place on the weekend would be virtually impossible. I was told they were so busy last weekend that they have to close shop for 2 hours in order to replenish raw materials!!

              Good luck!!

              1. re: Charles Yu

                Thanks, I tried this place the next day after you posted the address. Actually when I read "Private kitchen"I assumed it was some non-licenced restaurant run out of someones house! (I have been to a malaysian food "restaurant"like that, where they had a few tables set up in a living room.

                Anyways, I did not like the food that much. It was decent but not worth the price and I would rate my chance of returning at about 50%.

                I tried the regular and the mini xiaolongbao and both were big disappointments. Nice place though, I like the decor. Teapots are cups are nice but not really useful since I think those chip very easily.

                1. re: szw

                  May I know where is this Malaysian Private Kitchen? And how's the food?

                  1. re: shir

                    Sorry I should have mentioned that this was about 4 years ago and the guy stopped doing it in less than a year from what I heard. The food was not bad but not better than gourmet garden or other restaurants. This has to be expected since they won't have the wok firepower a restaurant does, but curry dishes can still be done well.

                    It was certainly a unique experience though! I was introduced from a friend of a friend of a friend.

                    1. re: szw

                      I guess I have to stick with GG for now. Thanks anyway.

            2. Hi - can you note the address, I can't seem to find out where it is. Thanks.

              1. Was quite disappointed. The place was busy, service good but food tasteless. Had meat balls with sauce and vegetables, sauce no flavor and meatballs tasteless; also tried Shanghai steamed soup dumpling. Got eight of them, small, again taste not great. That does not mean other food is same but my experience not good. Also price about 50% higher than in other, similar places.

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                1. re: lynxguru

                  Welcome to chowhound, lynxguru,
                  Interesting to see your FIRST chowhound posting to be such a negative damning report on a new but ' very busy' restaurant.?! Curious?! If the food was indeed as lousy as you eluded to, then I wonder why the place is that busy then? So far, everything is 'words of mouth'! Also, when describing the dishes as tasteless, are you comparing them with the same dishes you had in other establishments in town? If so, which one? I think we fellow chowhounders would love to know more detail since a lot of us are planning to give it a try!
                  BTW, what is your 'foodie background'? Are you a local Torontonian? What are some of your favourite eateries in town?

                  1. re: Charles Yu

                    I am a Canadian and very fond of Northern or Northwestern Chinese Food. I eat regularly at the Dumpling Village or House almost next to Shanghai Dim Sum open now one week I believe. I was there with my friend and also bought some take-out food to my NW Chinese girl friend. All 3 are of the same opinion as to the particular food we ate. It is a very small place, aboutt 12 tables. I guess it is busy because it is new and many like myself will try it out. You get 12 to 15 juicy and tasty dumplings at the Dumpling House , great taste especially the pork and fennel at $ 5 to 6 and here you get 8 small ones @ $7, just one example. Our other eating places are Northwestern China Restaurant Chang An @ 240 Alton Towers Circle, Chinese Beef and Lamb House , corner Birchmount and Sheppard, Thai Kitchen @ Sheppard and Brimley, Dumpling House @ Midland and Finch, Lao Cheng Restaurant @ 4271 Sheppard, Szechuan Restaurant corner Midland and Steeles, Perfect Restaurant, 4385 Sheppard, just to name a few - all i would rate overall better . There are a few others i would rate same or lower which i did not mention yet. Will try another time and try different dishes, food was very bland.

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                    Dumpling House Restaurant
                    328 Spadina Ave, Toronto, ON M5T2E7, CA

                    Dumpling Village
                    4385 Sheppard Ave E, Toronto, ON M1S1T9, CA

                    Thai Kitchen
                    2372 Barton St E, Hamilton, ON L8E2W7, CA

                    1. re: lynxguru

                      Thanks for the quick response, lynxguru! Will be having dinner there with another chowhounder couple next Tuesday. Have ordered a special Shanghainese dish or two in advance. Will report back and compare notes!!

                      BTW, the list of restaurants you captioned above are predominantly North Western, Cantonese and/or Szechuean cuisine. All of which tends to be either heavily seasoned or heavily spiced. Authentic ' Shanghainese Cuisine' on the other hand, tends to be more refined, mild and delicate. eg., Sauteed fresh filet of turbot/sole with wood mushroom and Chinese rice wine, Steamed Chinese ham with wine, honey and ginko nuts served with fluffy pancake, Sauteed shredded eels with yellowing chives and mun bean sprouts, Plain sauteed dishelled river prawns...etc. All these dishes rely solely on the inherent natural flavour of the ingredients with little or no help from other overcloying spices or seasoning! Even the Shanghainese dumplings and pot-stickers in question, use the more delicate 'Shanghai baby bok-choi' rather than the pungent shredded fennel in their pork filling!

                      Therefore, I don't think we are actually comparing apples with apples in this scenario?! (Its like trying to compare a heavily sauced tangy tomato base pasta dish with a more delicate olive oil and garlic base one?!) To each his own!!