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Need Help! Church and State or Pizzeria Mozza

puppychao Jul 16, 2010 10:57 AM

If you had to choose for a dinner of four, which one would you choose? Taking price, ambience, service and variety into consideration.

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Pizzeria Mozza
641 N. Highland Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90036

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  1. A5 KOBE RE: puppychao Jul 16, 2010 11:07 AM

    As much as I like Mozza, that place is very expensive for pizza and the service sucks, but I love the pizza. Church and State has a great vibe and food is great. If I were to pick, it would have to be there. The cod brandade is amazing.

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      Papuli RE: A5 KOBE Jul 16, 2010 11:34 AM

      Kobe, have you been since Manzke left? I'm wondering if the food is still as excellent as it was under him.

      Funny you should say that about service - I've never had a bad experience at Mozza, but every time I've gone to C&S the service has been remarkably bad - like, we laugh at the absurdity of it bad.

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        puppychao RE: Papuli Jul 16, 2010 01:11 PM

        That was going to be my next question, thanks for asking Papuli. Has the departure of Manzke really made a big difference?

        Thanks for the response.

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          A5 KOBE RE: Papuli Jul 16, 2010 01:49 PM

          That is a good question. I have not been since the departure.

          Mozza is on and off with me, yet the food is always on good. I love the lasagna which is only served one day out of the week. The bone marrow was just meh but the pizza, while very expensive is some of the best in LA.

          I would much prefer a nice and hearty casoulet over an overpriced pizza any day though so I am a bit bias : P

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          puppychao RE: A5 KOBE Jul 16, 2010 01:13 PM

          Thanks for the response!

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            gdodgerfan RE: A5 KOBE Jul 16, 2010 02:07 PM

            I pick Mozza, love the place. Pizza's fantastic, service has been good everytime we've been there nothing to complain about and I loved the bone marrow with the tosted bread.

          2. aching RE: puppychao Jul 16, 2010 02:16 PM

            I pick Mozza as well. I've been maybe five times, and each time the food has been excellent. I've never had any problems with the service, although by far the best service we had was at the bar. Things I love include the tri-colore salad, the brussels sprouts, the Bianca pizza with fennel sausage (the sausage part isn't on the menu but they'll do it if you ask), and the butterscotch budino (although its place in my heart was taken by the butterscotch pot de creme at Gjelina).

            Be warned, however, that both restaurants are very loud. YOU HAVE TO SHOUT LIKE THIS TO CONVERSE! That's the only thing I don't like about Mozza.

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              andytseng RE: puppychao Jul 16, 2010 04:08 PM

              I think the food types are so different, my mood would dictate which one to go to.

              But for your comparison...

              Price: People are saying Mozza is expensive for a pizza, but I think it's actually reasonably priced for a high-quality meal. You shouldn't compare the price of it to a standard pizza joint... you should compare the price of it to other restaurants that have that level of quality, consistenly. Or else you would never get a burger at Bouchon or Boulud, cuz hey... you could get a burger at In-n-Out for $5 (bad example, cuz I probably would just have the In-n-Out). TIE

              Ambiance is pretty lousy at both I think. TIE

              Service: I've only had one good service at C&S out of 5 visits. Mozza, I've always had good service at the side bar, and good service at a table half the time. Also, the hosts at Mozza are much more welcoming. MOZZA

              Variety: C&S

              Looks like a tie. I guess the butterscotch budino puts Mozza over the edge for me. I barely remember any of the desserts I've had at C&S.

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