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frg Jul 12, 2010 12:05 PM

There are multiple entries for both Duke's restaurants in New York City.

Duke's - Gramercy
http://www.chow.com/restaurants/18985/dukes
http://www.chow.com/restaurants/141300/dukes-e

Duke's - Murray Hill
http://www.chow.com/restaurants/18984/dukes
http://www.chow.com/restaurants/109330/dukes-e-37th-st
http://www.chow.com/restaurants/13812... - **This entry has the wrong phone number**

How can these be consolidated into one correct entry for each restaurant?

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    givemecarbs Aug 4, 2010 01:18 PM

    I'm having a similar problem on the Philadelphia Boards. I started a thread Molly Maguires Now Open in Lansdale and a few days later someone started Molly Maguire's In Lansdale - Very Disappointing. Someone asked if they could be consolidated. No luck so far. Also someone keeps refering to Lansdale as Lansdump. I objected to this with a reply. My reply was removed. So I reported the term Lansdump to the mods. No response. Then I again posted objecting to the term Lansdump. My post has again been removed I see. This is getting frustrating. I sure hope this post doesn't just get removed with no email from the mods.

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    1. re: givemecarbs
      The Chowhound Team Aug 4, 2010 01:57 PM

      Duplicate threads are very different from duplicate database entries. They are allowed, and not something we can merge anyway. If there are two exactly duplicate threads started by the same person, we'll shut one down and defer to the other, but otherwise, it's fine to discuss the same restaurant in more than one spot.

      We try to keep the focus of our conversation on the chow. Posts objecting to the words other posters choose to use are off-topic and will be removed.

    2. squid kun Jul 13, 2010 12:33 AM

      Someone has fixed the extra Duke's entries. Each of the duplicate records you've linked now redirects to the original, and a search of Duke's in New York City yields only one record for each location.

      But duplication remains a chronic problem that makes this site look lame; see http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/699928 . Chow's data provider periodically dumps a load of new restaurant records - rife with incorrect and outdated information, by the way - and whatever filters exist to prevent duplication are missing a ton of redundant records.

      Can anyone from the site update us on progress toward fixing this bug?

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      1. re: squid kun
        Melanie Wong Jul 16, 2010 10:56 PM

        The SF Bay Area database has not had a new data dump for some time. Or at least there has been no material bump up in the number of records other than the few that are added by users each week. I thought that it might have been discontinued because so many records were duplicates. Is this still happening in New York?

        1. re: Melanie Wong
          squid kun Jul 17, 2010 01:34 PM

          Not sure, Melanie. I just keep running across dupes, which may well have been introduced in earlier dumps. Maybe someone with the site can tell us whether the data dumps have been discontinued?

          1. re: squid kun
            Melanie Wong Jul 21, 2010 07:17 PM

            Currently, if I click on "see all" on the SF Bay Area region restaurants & bars, there are 20,584 results on 1373 pages. The number of records has declined since the start of this feature as duplicates are removed manually. I've gotten rid of about 700 dupes to date, as I run across them in using the site, plus some additional dupes that have been edited and changed to a new restaurant. New records have been created, but these come in randomly in dribbles so I don't think they're from the data provider. The last dump I recall for the region was in January, as noted here, http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678801, and was easy to see as a jump of 50+ in the number of results in the database.

            It's curious that New York City database would have only 11,152 results currently vs. the number in the SF region. But I guess that shows the inflating effect of including every Quizno's, Starbucks, Papa Murphy's, Roundtable, etc. in the SF database. Many of those chain records are duplicates, but it is impossible to mark them because the pull-down menu only shows a few at a time and not the one that needs to be removed.

            LA region has 38,152 results, presumably inflated by the inclusion of chain restaurants duplicated many times over for each address. I have wondered whether Chow.com earns some type of placement revenue for including these chains in the database. It probably should.

            1. re: Melanie Wong
              squid kun Jul 22, 2010 09:40 PM

              Searching for "New York City" (or "New York, NY") picks up mostly Manhattan venues but not all venues in other boroughs. Some of the latter show up only when you search for "Brooklyn, NY," "Queens, NY" etc.

              1. re: squid kun
                Melanie Wong Jul 22, 2010 10:11 PM

                Interesting. I was using the pull-down menu from the Restaurants & Bars button at the top of the page. That's a big bug.

                Some of the fringe areas don't show up in the SF Bay Area database, but it seems to successfully capture most of the geography covered by the message board.

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