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undertime Jul 12, 2010 08:29 AM

Great seafood restaurant in downtown LA that isn't Water Grill

I have some dear old friends coming to Los Angeles next weekend (July 17-18). Specifically, downtown Los Angeles. We will be taking a walking tour (Union Station, City Hall, LA Times Building, etc.) and, since they are from Phoenix, they have expressed a desire for fresh seafood. For my part, I would like to walk them to a fish restaurant downtown that might make them say, "Gosh! Maybe Los Angeles is not the pestilential, mephitic hellhole that we have been led to believe!" Or words to that effect. (I know, I know, like people from Phoenix should talk...) And I don't think they would be comfortable in a place that is too cloth napkin-y. Suggestions? Thanks.

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Water Grill
544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

  1. aching Jul 16, 2010 03:49 PM

    What about R23? It may not be as hot as it used to be, but it's a unique place that is within walking distance of the civic center area where you are touring. I think it would be a great place to take out-of-town guests for fish.

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    R23
    923 E. 3rd Street, Los Angeles, CA 90013

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      degustateur Jul 13, 2010 09:54 PM

      While renowned for its grandiloquent breakfasts and portentous steaks and chops, the Pacific Dining Car also offers a salutary selection of salient seafood.

      Pacific Dining Car
      1310 W. 6th St.
      Los Angeles, CA 90017
      (213) 483-6000
      BLD 24/7/365

      http://www.pacificdiningcar.com

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      Pacific Dining Car
      1310 W 6th St, Los Angeles, CA 90017

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      1. re: degustateur
        ipsedixit Jul 14, 2010 10:40 AM

        PDC certainly has its highpoints, but seafood is not one of them. Everything is either drowned in butter (scallops, shrimp, etc.) or boiled to death and served with a gloppy sauce (shrimp cocktail or lobster cakes).

        The word "salutary" certainly isn't the adjective I would use to describe PDC's seafood offering. "Incondite" or perhaps even "geusioleptic" but certainly not salutary.

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          undertime Jul 16, 2010 03:25 PM

          Thank you to everyone for your responses. This board is the best, and the information is enorrmously helpful. And extra vocabulary points to ipsedixit.

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        revets2 Jul 13, 2010 01:55 PM

        not Downtown, but less than 15 minutes to the West ===> Providence.

        Best seafood prep in California, JGold says all of the west coast.

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          cls Jul 13, 2010 09:07 PM

          It does, however, meet 0 of the criteria aside from not being Water Grill.

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          Water Grill
          544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

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          cls Jul 12, 2010 05:03 PM

          Drago Centro does a great job with seafood, although it's just a bit below the cloth napkin standard set by Water Grill.
          I haven't had seafood at Church and State since Manzke left, but it was excellent when he was there.

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          Water Grill
          544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

          Drago Centro
          525 S. Flower St., Suite 120, Los Angeles, CA 90071

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            mc michael Jul 12, 2010 04:37 PM

            I'd go for the spicy lobster at CBS Seafood in Chinatown.

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            CBS Seafood
            700 N Spring St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

            1. mucho gordo Jul 12, 2010 02:39 PM

              Does anyone know if the Mandarin Cove is still around? My 2 favorite dishes were the superbly cooked sizzling black pepper oysters and the stir-fried oysters with ginger and green onion,

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                Jwsel Jul 12, 2010 09:40 AM

                A few other options if you want more of a sit-down place or a dinner. (The restaurant at Fisherman's Outlet closes at 3:30 pm).

                Roy's at 8th and Figueroa has very good seafood at a lower price point than Water Grill. However, I believe there is a Roy's in Phoenix or vicinity, so it may not change their view of LA.

                La Serenata de Garibaldi on First, though it is either a drive or cab ride from downtown. They specialize in Mexican seafood.

                Also consider one of the Japaneze Izakaya places in Little Tokyo like Izakaya Haru Ulala, Honda Ya Izakaya or Izayoi. They have plenty of seafood offerings and the variety of different offerings it probably not something your frieds would find in Phoenix.

                McCormick & Schmick's is the only other seafood place I can think of downtown. It's decent, but it's the same chain they can find in Phoenix.

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                Haru Ulala
                368 E 2nd St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

                Water Grill
                544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

                Izayoi
                132 S Central Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90012

                Honda Ya Izakaya
                333 S Alameda St, Los Angeles, CA 90013

                Fisherman's Outlet
                529 S Central Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90013

                Little Tokyo Restaurant
                150 E Bonita Ave, San Dimas, CA 91773

                McCormick & Schmick's
                2101 Rosecrans Ave, El Segundo, CA 90245

                Izakaya
                8420 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90048

                1. ipsedixit Jul 12, 2010 09:23 AM

                  How about going to Chinatown and getting some live seafood at Ocean Seafood?

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                  Ocean Seafood Restaurant
                  747 N Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90012

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                  1. re: ipsedixit
                    wienermobile Jul 12, 2010 09:33 AM

                    I second Ocean Seafood, good food, very nice dining room and it is very walkable.
                    http://www.oceansf.com/

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                    Ocean Seafood Restaurant
                    747 N Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90012

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                    afloreZ66 Jul 12, 2010 08:50 AM

                    Water Grill is an excellent restaurant. Bet when you don't feel like having dinner with the Mayor of Los Angeles or some other celebrity then the Fishermans Outlet off of Central Avenue and 5th street would be another good option. This is not within walking distance of the landmarks you mention but a 5 minute taxi ride. I have been going there for years and their supply of fresh fish comes from the seafood importers of Downtown LA. Take a look at their website. I don't think you'll be dissapointed. They may have to use paper napkins though, good none the less.

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                    Fisherman's Outlet
                    529 S Central Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90013

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                    1. re: afloreZ66
                      toitoi Jul 12, 2010 01:04 PM

                      Just so you're aware, Fisherman's Outlet is a CASH ONLY.joint - but a terrific one.

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                      Fisherman's Outlet
                      529 S Central Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90013

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                        afloreZ66 Jul 13, 2010 11:25 AM

                        Cash only but an ATM is located inside for convienence.

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