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Wonton noodle place worthy of a mention!

After being spoiled by Hong Kong's authentic wonton noodles during the early part of this year, I haven't had a bowl of this comfort food in TO for at least three months! A couple of days ago, the father of a friend of mine suggested that I should give ' V2 Noodles and snacks' at unit 21, First Markam place a try, if and when I have such craving!

Well, I had a bowl at V2 this evening and was pleasently surprised! IMO, this outfit operates in the same manner as Tsim Chai Kee on Hwy#7. However, menu choices are much more varied.

Quality, degree of fineness and chewiness of the noodles is undoubledly the BEST Toronto has to offer. The wonton morsels unfortunately are of the 'giant golf ball size' rather than the traditional dainty varietal. However, seasoning and crunchiness of the large prawns filling was excellent. As for the broth, I could detect the flavour of budha fruit and roasted tile fish. However, overall flavour can be made a bit more intense. Still pretty good though. Only negative part was the ommission of yellowing chives as the traditional condiments. The chopped scallions substitute simply was not the same! Overall a commendable 8 out of 10. ( assuming Hong Kong's Mak's version is a 10 )

Though not perfect, but to have something like this in Toronto is kind of a blessing to us Chinese comfort food loving foodies!

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  1. Charles, this V2 place has been around for quite a few years. I found it's noodle usually has a strong akaline taste (as reported by various poster including me if you do a search on V2). The broth is also too mild. The beef brisket noodle is much better at V2. You may also want to give the new wonton noodle place called "Wonton Hut" a try, It is in the same plaza as Casa Victoria. It's noodle, broth and wonton are all better than V2.

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    1. re: skylineR33

      Yes, we tried the beef brisket and tendons as well. Pretty good. Very tender and flavourful. BTW, I found the alkaline taste OK. Guess it goes with this type of ' San Mien'?!
      " Wonton Hut "??!! Cool!!! Thank you my friend!! Will give it a try tomorrow lunch time before the world cup final!!

      1. re: Charles Yu

        V2's noodle varies, sometime it's akaline taste is ok, but sometimes it is strong, I guess the "akaline elimination" step is not done properly. Wonton Hut is on the same side as McDonald in the same plaza of Casa Victoria, I like it the most in GTA, but find it not comparable to HK's. Give it a try and let us know how you like it ...

        1. re: skylineR33

          Alkaline is what I tasted when I tried the hand made noodles on the 2nd floor of Pacific. It was an impressive performance but I couldn't eat the noodles. Wonder what is in them? The duck and broth was good.

          1. re: jayt90

            Alkaline comes from the ingradient called 'Kansui' which is used to make the noodle. It gives the noodle the elasticity. The type of Chinese hand-made noodle (which is white in color) on the 2nd floor of Pacific is different from the one used in wonton noodle (which is yellow in color). That hand-made noodle is not elastic, it does not used kansui as much.

            1. re: skylineR33

              The English term is ' Lye Liquor', a strong alkaline solution of potassium carbonate. I guess the inconsistency comes from the fact that V2 makes their own noodle and not commercial ones.

              To answer Phil Ogelos question. Since I didn't get their card, all I can say is that V2 is located at the same plaza ( First Markham Place on Highway 7 and Woodbine ) as the Shanghainese Dim Sum place ' Ding Tai Fung'. Just a couple of units down.

              1. re: Charles Yu

                Thanks for that, Charles. I did a 'Search' using V2 and came up with nothing (assume it's an abbreviation). I'll definitely check it out, as well as Wonton Hut, which sounds as though it's not far away.

                In gratitude, I'll share one of the most recent Chinese cuisine threads from the Manhattan boards. [For those unfamiliar with New York, Queens is the Markham of the city: so close physically, yet perceived by the hip as impossibly far away!]
                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7094...

                Restaurants of every type flip over manically in this town -more than in TO, even- so the May/June listings may change by the time you get down here. It also bears mention that the NYC boards have integrated a Google-map app into references in a post, so that the thread page usually (but not unfailingly) shows a link and a map on the right-hand side to the resto described in the recommends.

                All of which is to say that one must eat and savour one's wonton as though it were the last. Thanks again.

                EDIT: I've just now seen your post on Per Se, Charles -the one that mentioned Guide Michelin and its cachet. I can tell you confidently that that guide has very little weight in New York: you'd find as much respect selling it here as walking through Hawrelak Park in Edmonton hawking BQ t-shirts.

                1. re: Phil Ogelos

                  There are quite a few threads about V2, here are 2 of them. There are several others.

                  One is within last 2 month :
                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/706646

                  One is 3 years ago :
                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/432563

                  1. re: skylineR33

                    Thanks, skyline.
                    Now, out to a Viet Namese brunch downtown!

    2. Charles, I'm coming up to TO from NYC the week after next, and I'd like to give the place you're talking about a try. I can't quite divine where it is from your text, though [not even sure what it's called]: can you provide an exact address, please?

      1. V2 is my favorite place for wonton noodle, beef brisket and tendon too. I like the chilli oil too, with lots of flavor.
        Will have to try Wonton Hut to compare. Always searching for better ones.
        BTW, be warned Jung Jung's wonton noodle is a disaster now. Tried it 2 weeks ago and couldn't believe the brooth, wonton and noodle were all bad.

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        1. re: ace123

          What i like about V2 is you can get cuttlefish ball. They were pretty good. Very chewy and lots of cuttlefish bits. But will try Wonton hut as well. Thx.

        2. haha, Charles...thought you were gonna check this place out last year:
          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/652169

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          1. re: Chester Eleganté

            Hello CE! Long time no chat!
            Oops!! May be information overload?!
            Have you given 'Won Ton Hut' a try yet? Lo Mien with braised beef brisket and tendons is pretty good!

                1. re: Charles Yu

                  I might try this tomorrow! Excitttted! I never make it up to Markham Would you say it's better than V2?

              1. re: Charles Yu

                hey CY. ya no worries...you prolly have a lot on your plate, so to speak. I'll keep the Hut in mind, thanks.

            1. Have you tried Yau Kee at Middlefield/Steeles?

              1. Tried the Beef tendon noodles at V2 yesterday. The noodles were just right for me. Not too al dente nor too soft.The broth was very tasty with but was disappointed to discover that MSG was added as I felt a bit thirsty shortly afterwards.The cuttlefish balls were excellent with bits of cuttlefish and the deep fried salmon fish skin was done to perfection. We were there at about 1.00 pm which was a busy period and the service was slow. The waiter who took our order seemed impatient and our order took more than 15 minutes to arrive.The portions were small.Tea was served via a waiter with a flask. This is not good because the cups were small and we had to get their attention each time we needed a refill. However the quality of the food was good and we plan to come back.
                A better dinning experience can be had, IMHO at " Hello", on the east side of Yonge, South of Finch, next to the St. Louis Bar and Grill.This outlet is part of the Tsim Chai kee chain with a similar focussed menu. I usually have the shrimp wonton noodles extra large..The bowl of noodles comes with a generous amount of broth compared the same version in their HWY 7 outlet.This outlet is typically not busy so no waiting in line and service is quick and my order arrives in minutes. Space is generous in the restaurant and hence very pleasant. A nice touch is the way hot water is dispensed right at he table.
                Overall a very pleasant dining experience on all counts.

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                1. re: dyson17

                  Unfortunately, I am not a fan of Tsim Chai Kee's version of wonton noodles, be it served in Richmond Hill or Hong Kong's Wellington street flagship! IMO, they are just not authentic!

                  To me, eating their wonton is like munching a chicken nugget the size of a hotdog bun, whilst drinking their broth is like having orange juice from concentrate rather than freshly squeezed. Furthermore, their use of scallions rather than yellowing chives is like having sushi served with wasabi from powder instead of freshly grind wasabi root. As for noodles, only V2's version comes remotely close to Hong Kong's best.

                  IMHO, no one in Toronto can yet comes up with a great authentic Wonton noodle, Fish ball Ho Fun ( thick rice noodles ) or 'Sampan' rice congee.

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                  Chai
                  , Toronto, ON M5G, CA

                  1. re: Charles Yu

                    Charles,

                    For 'Sampan' rice congee, what do you think of "Wong Sam Kee" (don't know the English name) at Market Village? I think it's probably the best place for authentic and good tasting congee in Toronto.

                    1. re: mintchoco

                      Hello mintchoco!
                      Have you tried out rice congee at ' My Kitchen' on 9021 Leslie, Richmond Hill ( the plaza opposite the new Holiday Inn Express ). IMO, one of the best, with the congee having the right consistency, They also make a whole range of rice roll ( Cheung Fun ) from scratch. That applies to their range of ' fried Chinese doughnuts' as well..
                      Guess in a way, their operation is pretty similar to ' Wong Sam Kee' but IMO, the food is a bit better.
                      Actually, no one expected it, but IMO, the best congee are those from Time Square Judy's Cuisine!

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                      My Kitchen
                      9021 Leslie St, Richmond Hill, ON L4B0B2, CA

                2. Charles, my daughters are pre-teen foodies and always ask what else does Charles recommend?
                  I took them to V2 this week and they loved the cuttlefish ball and beef brisket. And the soup that came with the noodles. We agree not as good as HK but definitely good for Toronto.
                  And we also went back to Gourmet Garden this weekend. Not great atmosphere but it's now one of their favourites. They ask to go at least once a month.
                  Went to Peaktop yesterday at 6:30 for suckling pig but was told sold out. Will go earlier next weekend. Thanks.

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                  Gourmet Garden Restaurant
                  4465 Sheppard Ave E, Toronto, ON M1S, CA

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                  1. re: caitlink

                    I'm so glad and honoured!!
                    BTW, I ate at V2 yesterday evening as well! Had the Lo Mien with beef brisket, tendons and Shrimp dumplings and extra sauce. Nice cheap yummy comfort food after spending a bundle on Omakases and Haute Cuisine the past week!

                    1. re: Charles Yu

                      Then we were there the same night!

                      1. re: caitlink

                        My wife and I were there around 6.30 -7.30pm. We were sitting at the table next to the wall and the cashier. May be we chowhounders need to wear something to identify ourselves?!

                          1. re: haggisdragon

                            Chowhounders activate, form of...?

                          2. re: Charles Yu

                            We were there around the same time. Maybe my family was too hungry to look around. I remember there being only 3 or 4 tables of customers at that time. I will pay more attention the next time we go to any of your recommended places. i remember seeing a picture of you once when someone interviewed you for an article :-)
                            As for me, look for a family of 4 with 2 girls who are eating and yet still talk non-stop about where we are going for the next meal.

                            1. re: caitlink

                              Will do!!
                              Pity so far I only met skylineR33, Royal Jelly and Chester Elegante only! Would love to make face to face acquaintance with some more. Like yourself, Aser, ace123, jayt90....etc May be time for an 'Oriental' chowmeet?!