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We have a reservation at Per se in the coming weeks. I've been reading about it the last few days and am not so sure that I'm interested in paying a minimum of $275. per person for dinner............not including wine, tax or tip. While I truly enjoy wonderful food, I also can't imagine that I'd enjoy eating any meal that would most probably cost us close to $1000. when all is said and done. Can anyone please chime in on the subject? I'd also like to know what the dress code is for women. Thank you for any information on the subject.
We plan to eat at Mesa Grill for a casual dinner one evening. Any ideas on other restaurants? We want to have great food..............can be any kind, and can be a higher end restaurant (though we'd love for it to cost a bit less than Per se, if possible), or an inexpensive place that just has great food. Thanks again!!

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Mesa Grill
102 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

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  1. $275 does include the tip, if that nudges you in a direction. You might consider eating in the salon, which doesn't take reservations, but does offer the opportunity to eat Per Se food for considerably less than $1K. My spousal equivalent and I ate very well for about $300 all in. We had an appetizer and an entree each, split dessert and the cheese plate, and had drinks, not wine. It was a ton of excellent food (definitely in my lifetime top ten), partly due to the parade of amuses bouches.

    The dress code is "nice outfit." Men wear jackets. Women wear fancy pants or dresses. I doubt you'd be turned away in something less formal, but you might feel awkward.

    I will now sit quietly and wait for the Eleven Madison Park-ers to pipe up in 3..2..1..

    1. You may find this unbelievable at the present time. But I suspect if by chance you visit both your likely to find Per Se was the better value then Mesa Grill.

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      Per Se
      10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

      Mesa Grill
      102 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

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      1. re: oysterspearls

        Hah! You speak the truth. I like Mesa Grill alright for brunch, but it's not exactly in its prime. Still serviceable, but not much more.

      2. I don't want to step on any local NY's toes but Per Se is absolutely no where near worth the cost unless you just have $$ to throw away and some do. I don't. I have been twice and said I would never go back after the first. Our bill for lunch for 4 the first time was over $800.00 and the food served was not enough to feed a bird. We had one bottle of inexpensive wine and the bill was still way too high. I admit it was good and the service was outstanding but I have more fun with my $$ dining at places other than Per Se. NYC has hundreds of very fine restaurants with more bang for the $$ than Per Se. If you want a high $$ restaurant for more bang go to Daniel or Jean George. Eleven Madison Park is probably the best restaurant in the city. You have others by the dozens such as Scarpetta, Maialino, Gramercy, Balthazar, Gotham, Del Posto, Hearth, Veritas, WD 50 et al that give you a lot more for your $$. Another thing about Per Se is it's a big room and the tables are far apart. It's quiet so quiet you can hear a pin drop. That may have changed in the past year but I like some noise when I'm dining. And their waiters stand by your table watching your every move. I would go to Babbo in a heart beat before Per Se and spend the savings somewhere the next day in Saks for my wife. I promise you there are a lot of less expensive restaurants in NYC for more fun than Per Se. Have a great trip.

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        1. re: Littleman

          WOW.........Thanks for all the information. Interesting to hear the comments about Mesa Grill. I'll do some research on a few of the other places mentioned. I'm not sure how much luck we'll have getting a reservation at this point though.
          Please keep the comments coming.

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          Mesa Grill
          102 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

          1. re: runsfast

            If you're feeling strong, patient and in the mood to reflect, celeritas, consider the thread called "Top 5 Most Overrated in Manhattan": http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6325...

            It's a good space because there's more jousting in it, and c'hounds exerting themselves a little more thoughtfully to excoriate others' or uphold their own personal restaurant loyalties. It demands closer reading between the lines than most of the straightforward recommends here, but I think you'll end up the wiser for having browsed it. The answers you want won't be served up straight on a platter, in other words, but you'll taste them truly all the same.

            EDIT: and yes, both Per Se and Mesa Grill are discussed there.

            1. re: runsfast

              Try Recette instead of Mesa Grill. Hearth is better as well. I bet you'll be able to get reservations at either.

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              Mesa Grill
              102 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

              Recette
              328 West 12th Street, New York, NY 10014

              1. re: Nancy S.

                Absolutely agree on the recommendation for Hearth. Wonderful wine list, delicious, beautifully prepared food, very pleasant atmosphere. One of my favorites.

                1. re: Nancy S.

                  We had dinner at Recette for the first time recently. It is a gem!

                  Recette photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

            2. I am not a big Per Se fan. I would recommend Eleven Madison Park instead.

              As for Mesa Grill....not worth a visit, in my opinion.

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              Per Se
              10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

              Eleven Madison Park
              11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

              1. I've been to Per Se three times, and for me, the experience was memorable and worth it. By "experience" I define it as a combination of out-of-this-world food, impeccable service, and sharing the meal with others who were in on experiencing the magic. Without all three of those components it becomes a very expensive, albeit wonderful, meal. Depends on what your mindset is about your expectations as to whether it's worth the money.

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                Per Se
                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019