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Are there Really just A Handful of CHs in So. New England?

I am amazed by the lack of activity on the So. New Eng. board or its predecessor. When I travel anywhere in the U.S., I most always find an active CH posting community that helps greatly.
Where the heck are you guys in Ct? You're even more absent than CH posters in Providence.
Vt. and Me. have you beat by a LONG shot. You certainly eat out and you certainly have good restaurants, so what gives? You don't want to take the time to share? But no one else is going to do it. Come On!!!! We need you!

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  1. Since the board combined with Mass and RI many of the Fairfield Country CHer's kind of moved on...there are still a few here, they'll chime in if they have stuff to report.
    In addition to that, come summertime it has always been rather quiet on the FFLD CTY posts. But keep trying...people will chime in here and there!
    I've read all your posts and have found them to be interesting, we just don't venture to New Haven and beyond that often...

    1. I'm a lttle confused by the OP vis-a-vis some of the responses here. Are people seeking more participation from folks from SNE or less? We're here and while we love to read all the SNE postings, sometimes we have nothing intelligent to contribute. While I regularly appreciate jfood's common sense and wisdom, I'm not certain i understand what he's proposing above.

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      1. re: junescook

        Here are jfood's positions

        1 - Jfood would like more posters and he would like to somehow re-combine Westchester with FFD CTY. Prior to the last reorg, there was a incredible exchange between the two areas, then poof, no more. Although he has interchanges with some new hounds into the New Haven area, going 95 North just does not happen so his area has been cut in half.

        2 - As Sibeats mentioned there are restaurants that have been banned from discussion. And jfood has made his opinion known to the powers that not allowing 2-3 of the best places in FFD CTY is like saying you cannot write about the Top 100 in SF. Yes jfood agrees that shilling is bad but you need to trust your customers, in this case the other posters, to point out these shills. Let the forces of the economy through the report button help in the moderating. Banning restaurants from being reviewed is anti-Chowhound.

        3 - Not allowing posters to write about a restaurant because they are known to management is also treating us like children. Jfood is not allowed to write about a few nor can he even mention in passing. Why? Management knows him. Will the chef cook a better filet or a larger piece of halibut, or get some more fries? C'mon, let's be real.

        These are the rules though and jfood lives by them and has for years. Why? he has learned much and contributed some. He disagrees but c'est la vie

        hope that clears it` up

        1. re: jfood

          Shilling / Smearing (two sides of the same coin) by those with a vested interest are exactly the reason I don't trust any other food discussion (outside of Chowhound) site. Opening the shilling gates is akin to letting the Trojan horse in through the gates of the city. Sacking, pillaging and looting will commence immediately afterward and we will be done as a site.

          Banishment is just the ticket as far as I am concerned.

          1. re: Servorg

            Hey, Servorg! Can you please help me out re "smearing"...that's a term I don't know except to SCHMEAR cream cheese on a bagel...which is not what I think you mean. ;) You know jfood doesn't want to open up the shilling gates anymore than you or I or any other food-enthusiastic hound does...

            1. re: kattyeyes

              Smearing is when someone with a restaurant says untrue and damaging things about their direct competition. It's worse to me than straight shilling your own place. But neither has a place here.

              ADD: And to get banned here (as the mod's have said over the years) takes considerable effort on the part of both restaurants and posters. You really have to WANT to get banned to have it imposed from what I have read. So I can't feel too badly about the places that just won't let up and finally reap the consequences of their bad behavior.

              1. re: Servorg

                Ohhhhh, gotcha. OK! Yes, I agree, that is probably worse than straight shilling and I'm glad neither are tolerated.

                I'm with you on the banishment, too. I realize people get plenty of chances here before anyone pulls the plug. Except, of course, for that one pesky thread about grill grates (?) as debated elsewhere on site talk, usually I get why posts vanish and am glad to see them go. ;P

                1. re: Servorg

                  in case jfood was not clear. both shilling and smearing are unacceptable.

        2. I'm still here. I eat out a whole lot less than I did 6 months ago, but when I get somewhere new and noteworthy, I do report back. I will say it bums me to read of new places (new to me, anyway) on Facebook rather than here, but I'll take the info anyway I can get it...as I always did prior to joining CH. And when I get to the new place I read of on FB, I'll let ya know.

          We did seem to lose quite a few voices in the last year. I miss no reservations and know there are others I haven't seen in a while. Maybe most of what needs to be covered has already been said? I dunno.

          1. Before the reorganization of the boards, we had more activity because the NYC metro was included. A lot of us may live in CT which is technically New England but geographically we are a heck of a lot closer to Manhattan/5 boroughs than we are to Boston or even Hartford. I live 10 minute drive from the NY/CT border and when I want decent Asian food, I'm driving down to Flushing to get it, not driving around CT for some sad Asian restaurant outpost.

            Not only are we geographically closer to Manhattan, a lot of people probably also work in the city so overall they are most likely more active on those boards than this new So. NE board (which personally I think was a bad idea).

            1. Yes, there does seem to be a decrease in posting rates, and I know one or two voluble posters have been banned, but there are still many of us out there though I bet not many of us read "Site Talk"! And I have seen several recent Fairfield CTY posts, I even contributed a few myself even though it's not my usual stamping grounds. Maybe we should just encourage our friends to become CH'ers?

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              1. re: DonShirer

                I think you've got it right, Don. We need more feet on the street. I personally tried to recruit a very nice woman I ended up chatting with at Valencia Luncheria in Norwalk a few months back...but I have yet to see her show up here, unfortunately.

                1. re: kattyeyes

                  " more feet on the street"? i LOVE that!!

              2. Chowhound blew it when they drew a line in the sand and irrevocably and unnaturally separated Fairfield County from Westchester County. Gerrymandering the foodie borders was ill-conceived. They should have checked with founder Jim Leff first. They didn't.

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                1. re: steve h.

                  Not only Leff, but there has been not ONE poster in FFD CTY that has admitted being part of the Blue Lining.

                    1. re: nsxtasy

                      sorry...bluelining. It was a term used in realty in which realtors would guide certain ethnic classes away from homes within the blue lines.

                      1. re: jfood

                        I thought that term was redlining. (The "blue lining" sounded like a medical term, LOL!) Oh well, no big deal, thanks for the clarification!

                        1. re: nsxtasy

                          Blueling keeps only bluebloods in the neighborhood.
                          Redlining is where the blueblood bankers won't grant mortgages.

                          As I have discussed with jfood in the past, there is a lot more to Fairfield County north and east of Norwalk. I live in Trumbull, spend half my week in Northern Mass and also have a vacation home on Cape Cod. The new Southern New England Board (a different Tri-State area) works for me.

                          I stopped working in NYC in the 80s and have no desire to return to NY to dine. I only go to Westchester to use the airport. I am as likely to drive to New Haven to eat as Stamford, Danbury or Waterbury.....all being a 30 minute drive.

                          If the CH staff had ever corrected the description of the old board to include southwest Connecticut, NOT southeast Connecticut (as jfood repeated asked) maybe it would have survived.

                          As another observation.....I do far more grilling at home in the summer than eating out so my current restaurant based posts are far less frequent than in cooler weather.

                2. Yes, the High Court's arbitrary decision to divorce Fairfield Ct from the New York metro board and the ensuing shotgun marriage with New England has left huge custody problems for a lot of SW Connecticut readers and posters.. I find myself going to the NY boards because I'm far more interested in what's to eat in nearby Westchester than Cape Cod, the Vineyard, or Providence. Also there seems to be some uneasy co-habitation amongst the step sibs. Even OpinionatedChef's well intentioned (and not inaccurate) OP smacks of it.

                  Hopefully, the Judgement of Solomon will be reversed. Are you hearing this High Court?
                  The Southern New England board is just not as great a read.

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                  1. re: louuuuu

                    I wouldn't mind a divorce, either, quite honestly--it's no fun being "in" something where clearly the other party is just not that into you. ;) I had always thought it was odd to split Connecticut and was happy we were all together, but I understand why FFD County pairs better with Westchester...and I don't mind jumping to a different board to read about it. Can we still be friends? :)

                    I read along on Gold Coast posts even though I don't get there often. And I'll know where to find you if/after we split...even if living together was a bitch. HA HA! Gosh, then again, maybe we are stuck with each other...

                    EDIT: For what it's worth, living smack dab in the middle of CT, it's not like I'm getting out to Mass. or RI that often either...

                    1. re: kattyeyes

                      I see the point of the SW coast people, that their domain really pairs better with W County. But there's F'Fld Cnty and there's F'Fld Cnty. I live in lower Litchfield Cnty and do go to places all along the I-84 corridor in northern F'Fld Cnty. We also have people from Duchess all the way up to Lake Champlain, So I always read the NY State Boards too.

                      But like Kattyeyes, I'm such a glutton for vicarious dining experiences that I read the Gold Coast ones too, so if you folks on the western shore feel that a Fairchester board might draw more interest, that would be cool too.

                    2. re: louuuuu

                      >> I find myself going to the NY boards because I'm far more interested in what's to eat in nearby Westchester than Cape Cod, the Vineyard, or Providence.

                      Unfortunately, the NY boards are equally messed up. If you want to read posts about Westchester, you also have to wade through topics about Albany and Buffalo on the same board. I'm not sure you gain a whole lot by not seeing Cape Cod and Providence but instead seeing Buffalo and Rochester.

                      Every big city in the country EXCEPT New York City has its suburbs in a board separate from the rest of the state it's in. Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Boston, Atlanta, DFW, Houston, Austin, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis-St Paul, Phoenix, Vegas, Miami, New Orleans - all have boards so that folks who live in their suburbs don't have to see topics about places two hundred miles away. Why should New York City be any different?

                      1. re: nsxtasy

                        The old tri-state board was predominately devoted to the NYC suburbs... only 10% tops focussed on upstate cuisine (Ironically, I started a thread on Buffalo signature dishes a few days ago on the NY board.)

                        So there wasn't a lot of wading. And yes, I've learned some things about New Haven County places and to the North that I probably wouldn't otherwise from some terrific contributors as Opinionated and Kattyeyes. But the fact of the matter is, unlike the old tri-state board, the majority of posts on the board are from other areas -- the very issue which prompted the OP.

                        Don't mean to sound elitist (I'm originally a midwesterner like yourself nxstasy), but NYC environs are highly populated (14 million not including NYC and the boroughs) and deserving of their own board. If upstate NY would otherwise be orphaned, no reason not to piggyback.

                        I'm sensing some Second City emotions in a line like "Why should New York City be any different". Think most people would concede it is. For better or worse.

                        1. re: louuuuu

                          >> Don't mean to sound elitist (I'm originally a midwesterner like yourself nxstasy), but NYC environs are highly populated (14 million not including NYC and the boroughs) and deserving of their own board. If upstate NY would otherwise be orphaned, no reason not to piggyback.

                          Don't make assumptions! As it happens, I grew up in your Tri-State Area and lived there through my earlier adult years, although I've lived in the Chicago area for a number of years since then. So I'm pretty familiar with the NYC environs. I think they're deserving of SEVERAL of their own boards, which is what everyone there seems to want. The new forum for Jersey seems to be a big hit with folks on that side of the Hudson. I think the creation of what some have suggested calling the "Metro North" board, including Westchester and Fairfield Counties, to serve those living north of the city, is a great idea. Also, from what I've seen of the NYS board, there's enough traffic among those on the island to justify their own board, too, also justified by the fact that lumping them in with Westchester makes no sense since you have to drive through the city to get from one to the other. That way you wind up with three boards for the NYC suburbs: New Jersey, Metro North, and Long Island, and you have a fourth board for the rest of NYS (which would probably still have a lot more posting than some other boards for states whose big cities have formed their own boards, such as the Pacific Northwest board for example). Then it's just a matter of deciding where to put the Hudson Valley and the counties west of the Hudson (Rockland, Orange), in Metro North or in the NYS board.

                          So yes, New York City is different, because it has so many people. It's already different, as the only board whose city is separate from its suburbs, and the only one with more than one board for the city. And it may as well be different by having more than one board for the 7-10 million people who live in its suburbs, too. That's what people here have been asking for, by not lumping Westchester in with New York State and not lumping Fairfield in with the rest of Southern New England, but instead giving them their own forum, and that makes sense to me.

                          I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do, but that's just what seems to make sense based on what YOU people are asking for and where most of the posting goes on.

                    3. Ok, the US Census has been released and the states are redistricing. In that spirit, I believe its time CH reconsidered its jerrymandering of Fairfield Cty into Southern New England. We need to be reuinited metro NYC. Every passing day I see less and less on the SNE board that is relevant to me.

                      This complaint has been moribund for almost 3/4 year. Time to revive it. FFC Unite!!!!

                      Were there only a nearby Tahrir Square!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      1. re: louuuuu

                        It would appear that Fairfield County and Westchester County continue to be relegated to the dust bin of Chowhound recidivism.

                        F%#k 'em. The Chowhound folk who call the shots just don't get it. Pity, we gave them every opportunity.

                        A spirited and public debate is perhaps too much to ask.