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Cigar and Bourbon Ice Cream....

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I was looking for a good Strawberry Ice Cream recipe (I misplaced my David Lebovitz Perfect Scoop book) and accidentally came across a recipe for Cigar and Bourbon Ice Cream. I decided to try it out and I wanted to report here that it is VERY good... I wasn't sure what to except. I like surpising my friends with different flavours but I am cautious to have them try it without telling them what it is for this one because I am not sure if the nicotine would get extracted from the infusion process (I guess some wood):

Here is a link to the recipe:

http://the-dogs-breakfast.com/2010/02...

I have just tasted a scoop so far while emptying out the contents of the ice cream maker into containers to put into my freezer. It burns the throat a little (not sure if from the bourbon or from the tobacco).

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  1. Wow, I've never seen tobacco used as an ingredient. I've smoked a cigar along with some really good chocolate, ice cream, rum and bourbon (not all at once) but never used one as an ingredient in a dish.

    1. Maybe "very good" to you. Cigar is just too much for me.

      1. Here are the pics:

        http://img717.imageshack.us/slideshow...

        I had "cigar smoked" gnocchi at LAB in Toronto but I haven't tried any other cigar infused food before.... So far people are really intrigued by the flavour...

        1. Didn't Thomas Keller of The French Laundry make some sort of tobacco infused dessert concoction, I want to say panna cotta, for Anthony Bourdain on an episode of the FN program A Cook's Tour: The French Laundry Experience? IIRC, Mr. Bourdain was at the same moment both touched and slightly unsure of the significance of the gesture, i.e. he thought it might be a dis.

          Aside from the difficuly I'd have getting a Cohiba Club, I'd actually like to try this. Hm, I wnder if I could sub a Phillies Blunt?

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          1. re: bushwickgirl

            Ok some one must say it -so I will, this just sounds rude, and yes I may be rude for saying it, but this one goes to far.

            1. re: cookkevin

              Did you mean to address me? Are you talking about the ice cream idea? How is it rude? Sounds very intriguing to me. You could call it not to your liking, but it's not rude.

              If you're referring to my post, the dinner was a completely real occurrence on a food Network episode of A Cook's Tour; the tobacco infused dessert had to do with the fact that Tony Bourdain was smoking quite heavily at the time. I seem to remember that he enjoyed the meal immensely, including the dessert, although he was not very clear on Thomas Keller's intentions in serving him that dish.

              I was not kidding about making the ice cream with a Phillies Blunt, which I read has a mild sweet flavor. Plus they're readily available in my neighborhood.

              1. re: bushwickgirl

                I think that cookkevin's reponse may have been for my first comment.

                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                  Oh, ok, I was confused...I didn't think your comment was rude, though; to each his/her own. If I ever try this ice cream, I'll report back; I don't mind occasionally being an guinea pig.

                  1. re: bushwickgirl

                    I don't think my comment was too rude, but it is certainly rude-er than yours. I were trying to figure which comment cookkevin was responsing to as well. Consider that I were the only one who stated that I won't like the ice cream, he might have been addressing to me.

                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                      Yes, I think that may have been the case; I was completely confused. I thought maybe cookkevin thought the idea of tobacco infused ice cream was rude, ha ha.

                      I didn't even notice your post, sorry. I think you were just stating an opinion and we all have the right to do that here.

                      1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                        Lets put the rude stuff to rest, Cigar and Bourbon Ice Cream sounds rude and Im sure it would in fact taste rude. And at the risk of having this post removed I think any one who think it tastes good should get to the doctor and have ther taste buds checked.

                        1. re: cookkevin

                          Ok, so you think the food is rude. Then shouldn't you reply to original poster? Bushwickgril and I thought you meant we are rude.

                          1. re: cookkevin

                            Actually from what I've read, tobacco imparts a rich, slightly smoky, nutty flavor. Nothing rude about that. But taste is subjective and one person's delicious is another's distasteful. Humans eat many things I consider to be appalling, but I don't think of those choices as rude, they're just choices.

                            cookkevin, opinions are welcome at chow, but just make sure you address the proper party when expressing yours.

                2. re: bushwickgirl

                  Yeah Keller made some kind of coffee custard with tobacco leaves, but I can't seem to find a good description of it anywhere online -- just people's comments about the TV episode.

                3. Don't know why, but I find this idea slightly nauseating. I guess I'll stick to butter pecan!

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                  1. re: roxlet

                    I think if you consider tobacco in the way a cigar smells when it's smoked, which is totally appalling to me, (but I do like the smell of pipe tobacco) then I would find the idea nauseating. But it appears that cigar tobacco has some flavor profiles that are not apparent when it's simply smoked.

                    Anyways, here's a NYT article on the subject, with comments from some noted chefs on their particular tobacco experiments, including the infamous Thomas Keller-Tony Bourdain dessert incident. The most telling remark, in light of the recipe topic at hand, was that of a Manhattan chef, who remarked that tobacco "...works really well with fatty foods."

                    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/din...

                    It seems like the OP's scratchy throat was in fact due to the tobacco.

                    1. re: bushwickgirl

                      I got a "page not found" on that link...

                      1. re: roxlet

                        Oh, it's working for me. I always check my links after posting to be sure...just checked it again and it's ok. Maybe it's where you are? I don't know how that works.

                        1. re: bushwickgirl

                          I couldn't get in either. Maybe it's "members only" content? I read somewhere recently that the NYT was going to switch over to that soon.

                          1. re: morwen

                            Yes, I am a member but I linked to the article from a google search. The page does have my screen name on it though. Must be that members only content thing.

                          2. re: bushwickgirl

                            I got it the second time, and btw, I'm a "member."

                            1. re: roxlet

                              fwiw I got it the second time I tried and I'm not a member.

                          3. re: bushwickgirl

                            Nictotine is an irritant, so yes, the scratchy throat was because of the tobacco. I wonder if the tar, etc were removed.

                            1. re: souschef

                              I think it's just the nicotine; it's a known irritant. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe tar (the toxic chemicals found in cigarettes and cured tobacco products) is only delivered when inhaling the smoke, whether deeply or however cigars smokers tend to inhale.

                              I'm personally going to debate making this in my head for a good while before I try it, perhaps it's the figs and the bourbon in the ice cream I find much more attractive.;-)

                              1. re: bushwickgirl

                                As a lifelong non-smoker I am NEVER going to make it.

                                1. re: bushwickgirl

                                  You are right. Tar is the term for burned and partially in smoking tobacco. However, the lack of tar does not mean it has no concern. Think chewing tobacco.

                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_...

                                  1. re: bushwickgirl

                                    Bushwickgirl, did you ever end up trying this recipe? I was going to make a black cardamom ice cream, but this sounds so much more exciting. I just need a veteran CHer's approval before I take the leap.

                                    1. re: JungMann

                                      Yes, I did it late last summer, the tobacco imparted an um, interesting smoky flavor, not at all offputting. Mrbushy liked it quite a bit. Go forth and give it a try, or wait until you can get fresh figs, that was the real draw for me and made it special. Let me know when you do, and what you think.

                                      1. re: bushwickgirl

                                        This sounds intriguing. To me, cigar and bourbon is a great combination of flavours, though I don't smoke. I do love red wines that have that dark tobacco-y note. I can't imagine how it works with the sweetness and creaminess of the icecream though. Maybe this one will go in the recipe file until fig season =)

                                        1. re: gembellina

                                          If you have no issues with the ingredients, namely tobacco, do give this a try. I used pipe tobacco, no particular brand that I remember, not flavored stuff; it was a good experiment that we enjoyed. I found the smokiness actually went well with the creaminess, and the figs and bourbon were a great addition. I would make this again, if that's any recommendation.

                              2. re: roxlet

                                I'm with you roxlet. Interesting, but yes nauseating. I can't stand the smell of cigars and I can't imagine trying to make those cancer sticks edible. Maybe if I'm ever desperate for something to eat....