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Jun 24, 2010 10:04 AM

Outer Richmond Chowhounding

Love the Outer Richmond. Ripe with unknown treasure. Most of these were just visually spotted and not actually tried, but I've learned to trust my "looks good!" intuition, which seldom lets me down.

Seakor Polish Delicatessan 5957 Geary Boulevard (415) 387-8660 good looking sausages, GREAT poppyseed cake (very different from the rolls at Gastronome). Nice old guy.

Minami Restaurant‬‎ sushi ‪1900 Clement St (415) 387-5913‬ looked good

Belly Burgers 5740 Geary Boulevard (415) 933-6232 looked good

Ton Kiang Restaurant 5821 Geary Boulevard (415) 386-8530 The lady at gastronome recommends this for interesting expensive dim sum. There are also a bunch of Hakka dishes on menu, I must try!

Pho Garden 2109 Clement St 415) 379-8677 looked good

Hong Kong Lounge Restaurant 5322 Geary Boulevard: very ordinary. Not a fan. Rice in the zong zi was horrendously overcooked.

I snapped a photo of the street signs at the intersection of 17th and Anza to remember something great-looking there, but I can't figure out what it actually was.

Gastronome 5801 Geary at 22nd (415) 387-4211. This place is very well known, but be on lookout cuz they sometimes stock Babaevsky 75% cacao chocolate bars, one of my faves in the world . Also, great cabbage piroshki (other flavors not as good), eggplant salad, little cheesecakey things/

Geary Parkway Motel, 4750 Geary blvd, near 12th ave 415) 752-4406. Like $85/night, free parking and wifi, perfectly clean and friendly, and in the middle of all this splendor.

Ton Kiang
5821 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

Belly Burgers
5740 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

Hong Kong Lounge
5322 Geary Boulevard, San Francisco, CA 94121

Minami Restaurant
1900 Clement St, San Francisco, CA 94121

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  1. Zero replies....hmm, either people don't know these places but have been quietly checking them out since I posted this (in which case: please post your findings!), or people don't know and don't care (in which case, I won't bother next time! :)

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    1. re: Jim Leff

      Isn't there another choice besides your either-or, that people know these places well but take them for granted or aren't excited about them?

      Maybe the Pho Garden eating challenge caught your eye: 2 lbs of noodles + 2 lbs of meat.

      5801 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA

      Seakor Polish Deli
      5957 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA

      Pho Garden Vietnamese Restaurant
      2109 Clement St, San Francisco, CA 94121

      1. re: Melanie Wong

        Yeah, Ruth and I walked by Pho Garden after Aziza last month and tried to decide who we knew that would be up to the challenge.

        In that vicinity, I like the brown bread at John Campbell's, raw beef salad at La Vie, rainbow salad at Pagan, and pickles at New World Market.

        Great poppyseed cake is always worth a drive to the beach.

        Is breakfast at the Seal Rock Inn still good?

        New World Market
        5641 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

        Seal Rock Inn
        545 Point Lobos Ave, San Francisco, CA 94121

        1. re: Windy

          We really enjoy the baps from John Campbell's.

          1. re: PolarBear

            They're especially good with JC's corned beef on top.

        2. re: Melanie Wong

          Yes, most of those are hardly unknown treasures, which Jim would know if he did a search. I mean really, Ton Kiang? It's the most overhyped dim sum in SF and I'm guessing it's in every guidebook. The Chow restaurants and bars database lists 83 places in the Outer Richmond, of which Ton Kiang is the third most discussed (after Aziza and Shanghai Dumpling King).

      2. The only place on that list that I have been to is Belly Burger. They do burgers and some fried items (fish and chips). They were fine for some quick take out but not memorable enough to return.

        Two other places close by for burgers are Bill's which just celebrated 50 years, they do lots of different embellished burgers. Hard Knox Cafe also does a good burger and lots of other specialties. Both of these are on Clement near 25th Ave.

        There are lots of places in the Outer Richmond, but they mostly are good neighborhood spots, but not really destinations.

        Belly Burgers
        5740 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

        Hard Knox Cafe
        2448 Clement St, San Francisco, CA 94121

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        1. re: pamf

          belly burger would be better if they put salt on their french fries. the burger is pretty good but not memorable. i like buffalo burger up the street on geary a little better -- still not a great burger but more flavorful. i don't think bill's is that great but other people think it is really good.

          minami is a small sushi place that looks promising. however i thought it was good but not memorable. the best place for sushi in the area (by far) is kabuto. oyaji is also very good - not so much for sushi but other japanese dishes.

        2. Ton Kiang is great if you haven't had dim sum before. Disappointing once you discover there is better, for less money, all over the Bay Area.

          Ton Kiang
          5821 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

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          1. re: jillyju

            Ditto what jillyju said! I haven't heard of most of the places you mentioned, but what about Kappou Gomi, which was recently reported on, and I also like Jang Soo for their jap chae.

            Kappou Gomi
            5524 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

          2. Let's add this one: Hakka Restaurant

            Hakka Restaurant
            4401 Cabrillo St, San Francisco, CA 94121

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            1. re: Cynsa

              Hakka is an excellent choice, much better than the restaurants listed so far. The food is delicately flavored, fresh tasting and really delicious. Recommended: salty-egg crusted pumpkin, the clay pot dishes, gai lan w/rice wine. Most seafood dishes were really good, especially the ones that featured lily turnips and fungi. Also excellent were the house special clams w/basil. This is a fantastic restaurant!


              Hakka Restaurant
              4401 Cabrillo St, San Francisco, CA 94121

              1. re: Nancy Berry

                I'm wondering if Jeff's "looks good" radar sort of bypassed Hakka on it's looks.

                  1. re: Jim Leff

                    Jim Leff. Jim Leff. There I got it right twice.

            2. Lots of posts from me over the years on Seakor, which has another location in Campbell on the border of San Jose.It was amoung my first posts many years ago. I think that the Campbell location is a bit better.

              The dried mushrooms are what I go to Seakor for. At Christmas time they have all different types incluuding strings that sell for $100 lb. I haven't splurged on those yet.

              They make a nice Polish cheesecake on the weekends some time. The pakczi have been stale and disappointing.

              While they make their own sausages and ham, I like Polish Deli more in Palo Alto which gets the sausages from Chicago. Somewhere out there on Chowhound I have a list of all the Seakor sausages and what many taste like.

              They have gotten better over the years, but I don't eat Polish sausage often and when I do, the calories have to count ... so I go for the Chicago stuff at Polish Deli.

              The owner's disposition has improved over the years. He was very gruff at one time. He's sort of mellowed into a Californian. Maybe it is a also that he has learned English that has made him more open. Being currently in the position where no one speaks English and I don't speak Spanish I can have real, um, empathy for where he was.

              There's a good Asian bakery either across the street ... or within a few blocks.

              Here's my list for all the Eastern European joints in the Bay Area. It covers all of those in the outer Richmond. Searches will turn up reports on most of them

              Probably easier is my Bay Area Eastern Europen Google map which has the links to chowhound reports

              I like Gastronom, but since Royal Market opened, I'm more likely to go there. I think the stuffed cabbage at New World Market is the best. They also have a nice hot food station at lunch Next door, Israel Kosher makes some nice baked goods. At Easter, Katia's makes the best Russian Easter bread and cheese ... Kulich and Pascha

              Cafe Sadko is newish (a few years) on Clement Street and has some of the better Georgian food in the area. The little stretch of Clement where it is located seem to me to have a number of unexplored and unreported on Chowhound places

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              1. re: rworange

                Husband walked by Polish Deli in PA this Sunday to find it GONE? Waaa, those were some good sausages...

                Polish Deli
                456 Cambridge Ave, Palo Alto, CA

                1. re: fourstar

                  Ah ... just shoot me now. I leave town and all my favorite places shut down. It was a pretty deadly location though and the owner wasn't big on marketing.

                  It may be that Sekor is hitting its stride as there was another positive report

                  Awesome European Deli in San Francisco

                  If not, then I can get my kilebasa from Europa Express which has a few good brands from places that make it on the eastern half of the US ... can't remember if it was Chicago or NJ.

                  1. re: rworange

                    Now, rwo, did you formally notify all the Bay Area restaurants that you were leaving for a while so that they could plan accordingl?!?