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The Challenge: Midtown East - Saturday lunch places? Details inside!

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johnblacksox Jun 12, 2010 06:21 PM

I'm looking for a place to have a nice lunch on Saturday. Must meet the following criteria:

- 15-20 minute walk from about 44th & 2nd Ave. More or less, I don't mind walking, but it has to be somewhere "Midtown East", nothing West side allowed. I'm willing to hike for a cool place. So this is a pretty broad area.

- Must serve lunch, absolutely no brunch menus. I have a visceral hatred of anything brunch. I can't emphasize this strongly enough.

- Ideally, I want a place to have a very long lunch at a cool and/or pleasant setting, with good service, and a nice wine list. A place to relax with a nice bottle of wine.

- Exclude these: Chinese, Japanese, tapas, Mexican, burgers, pizza, deli. Again, no exceptions please.

- Cost is not a consideration. I'll be dressed up.

Just for comparison sake, a few places I enjoy weekend lunches are: Masseria (Midtown Italian), Victor's Cafe (Midtown Cuban), Safran (Chelsea Vietnamese-ish), and Bottino (Chelsea American).

Sorry if this sounds fussy, just my personal preferences!

Thanks in advance for your recommendations! I'll be checking frequently, so keep them coming!

John

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Safran
88 7th Ave, New York, NY 10011

Bottino
246 10th Ave, New York, NY 10001

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    Littleman Jun 12, 2010 06:40 PM

    Well......................Do you walk to Bottino.....................

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      johnblacksox Jun 12, 2010 06:41 PM

      Yes?

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        johnblacksox Jun 12, 2010 07:07 PM

        Oh...No...What I meant was when I'm in those neighborhoods, I like those places.

        This time I'll be on the East side for a change, so looking to try something new.

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        Littleman Jun 12, 2010 06:53 PM

        What about Dock's...............

        http://www.docksoysterbar.com/

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          johnblacksox Jun 12, 2010 07:04 PM

          That looks great...Unfortunately, I totally spaced on mentioning that my wife doesn't eat seafood. : / Sorry, that's totally my fault. No idea how I forgot that.

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            RGR Jun 13, 2010 07:50 AM

            You're not missing much by not going to Docks....

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              Littleman Jun 13, 2010 12:11 PM

              I didn't think so either but he didn't want to walk far. You NY's think 10 blocks is 1.

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                RGR Jun 13, 2010 01:10 PM

                LOL! Spoken like a true Southerner. He did say a 15-20 minute walk. Even for the average walker, that takes in quite a bit of territory. In any case, there are some very good options fairly close to his starting point. Thus, no sense suggesting a place that he's better off missing.

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                  Littleman Jun 13, 2010 02:21 PM

                  I said you NY's think 10 blocks is l. I have to let my wife out at the front door of the grocery store. She won't walk from the car lot 100 feet to the front door of the store. Actually she doesn't like to walk much anywhere. I walked over 80 blocks looking for a ladies watch in NYC once but I was not with my wife. She was in SAKS and I was with a friend who wanted the watch for his wife. 80 blocks is not too far in NYC.

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                  johnblacksox Jun 13, 2010 05:40 PM

                  No, I'm happy to walk far. I just meant that I wanted to stay on the East side.

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            Upperwestsider Jun 12, 2010 10:17 PM

            Check out the menu at the le Bateau Ivre (http://www.lebateauivrenyc.com/) and see if it meets your criteria; no brunch, to be sure, and since it is very French, long lunch is almost redundant. Very bright, more a bistrot than a restaurant. Food not bad, wine list excellent. Please let us know where you ultimately decide to go and what your experience was.

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              eeee Jun 13, 2010 06:31 AM

              Sip Sak is Turkish and on 49th and 2nd. Good food and your wife can definitely avoid seafood. Same menu for lunch and dinner.

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              Sip Sak
              928 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10022

            2. ellenost Jun 13, 2010 09:17 AM

              What about Cibo (Second Ave. & E. 41 St.)?

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              Cibo
              767 Second Avenue, New York, NY 10017

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                RGR Jun 13, 2010 09:50 AM

                Cibo serves a brunch menu on weekends. On the prix fixe menu, only three of the ten options are not breakfast-style dishes; on the a la carte, only three of nine.

                http://cibonyc.com

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                  ellenost Jun 13, 2010 10:15 AM

                  Actually if you look at the regular (not prix fixe brunch menu) out of 14 entrees, 8 of them are not "brunch" type of food. This might be an option for the OP.

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                    RGR Jun 13, 2010 11:42 AM

                    Oops! You're right. And all the appetizers are lunch-style, so it could work for him.

                    Though we haven't been there in ages, I always liked Cibo. Well-prepared food, nicely-spaced tables (including a few comfy booths), and very attractive decor.

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                      johnblacksox Jun 13, 2010 06:08 PM

                      Thank you ellenost & RGR!

                      I checked out Cibo online. I love the look of it.

                      Same as Perigord below, I have a problem with the Brunch Menu. It's true they have some "non-Brunch" offerings, but the Lunch Menu looks so much better.

                      If they offered the Lunch Menu on Saturday, I'd definitely go here.

                      It's strange to me that it's so hard to find any restaurant that serves its normal Lunch Menu on Saturday.

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                      Cibo
                      767 Second Avenue, New York, NY 10017

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                RGR Jun 13, 2010 10:03 AM

                My thought was Le Perigord, on 52nd, b/t 1st & FDR Drive, one of the two remaining old Grand Dames of French haute cuisine -- the other being, of course, La Grenouille. The food at Perigord, though not at the level of Grenouille, is quite tasty. The surroundings are pleasant but, again, not as pretty as Grenouille. One thing it does have over Grenouille is much more room between tables. I would suggest requesting one of their very spacious booths

                Although there is a section on Periogord's weekend menu with breakfast foods, the rest of the menu is their regular lunch menu, which is pretty much the same as their dinner menu.

                Being "dressed up" would work well there, and you can certainly relax with a good bottle of wine.

                Photos of our dinner at Le Perigord here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

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                  Littleman Jun 13, 2010 02:22 PM

                  I think the OP should go to Le Perigord. He can't do one bit better. Now on to more chow.

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                  Le Perigord
                  405 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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                    johnblacksox Jun 13, 2010 06:02 PM

                    Thanks very much for the recommendation! I checked the website, and Le Perigord looks nice. But, again, the Brunch Menu turns me off. I know they have some of the same offerings as dinner, but eggs and cold buffet table don't appeal to me at all.

                    As an aside, I don't really get NY's brunch culture. Especially on a Saturday. I can see being closed on Saturday lunch, but brunch? Eggs, Belgian Waffles, and a buffet table?

                    I'm probably crazy, but I find that so unappetizing. It reminds me of going to Sunday brunch at a Sheraton when I was a kid.

                    I'd definitely check out Le Perigord for dinner though. No buffet tables then! ;-)

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                    Le Perigord
                    405 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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                      RGR Jun 13, 2010 08:51 PM

                      jbs, I actually agree with you about breakfast food brunches. We never go out for breakfast, and when we go for a midday meal on the weekends, we don't want breakfast foods. Our first preference is for a strictly lunch menu, but we are willing to settle for a brunch menu as long as it includes *lots* of lunch dishes.

                      As far as pure lunch menus on the weekend, they do exist, though, admittedly, not in very high numbers. The problem in your case is that not only are you inflexible about menus that a preponderance of lunch items + some breakfast food, but you are also insisting on certain geographical parameters. Plus, you want to be able to walk to your destination. If you stick with those rules, your options will remain severely limited.

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