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Trader Joe's?!?

Fresh Market's is opening on South Beach, there are 3 different Publix's on South Beach, there's a Whole Foods and Epicure . . . So what is holding up Trader Joe's? I know it doesn't have to be South Beach but in the Miami area? Has anyone heard word of Trader Joe's coming here or anywhere in Florida? I know there's been rumors but the ones I know about are pretty old. So has anyone heard anything recent?

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  1. Well...we have Whole Foods...and Epicure....and Publix....and Fresh Market.......Why do we need a Trader Joe's??.......I've been in a Trader Joe's.....I liked it.........but with great stores like WF, EP, PX and FM - - - what's the NEED for a Trader Joe's??......Please enlighten.....

    EMac

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    1. re: LargeLife

      The basic difference in my mind is that Trader Joes is first about value AND variety. All of those other options are about variety without a mind towards cost.
      M

      1. re: LargeLife

        For those who have not been to one in the N.E. or Cali, I describe Trader Joe's as a cross between Whole Foods and Costco. :-)

        1. re: CFByrne

          I shopped in a Trader Joe's just outside of Boston.....liked it....enjoyed it.....but it wasn't THAT big of a deal.....The Fresh Market that I visit in The Grove and in Vero are much nicer and have a lot more to offer.....at least to my eye.......

          EMac

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          Fresh Market
          18295 Biscayne Blvd, North Miami Beach, FL 33160

          1. re: CFByrne

            I thinki TJ's is more like Whole Foods meets Big Lots.

        2. this has been discussed a lot on TJ fan club sites etc. Basically it does not sound too good right now.

          Trader Joe’s says Florida not in plans
          posted by bkassab on April, 28 2009 11:51 AM
          http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/busi...

          See also this site:

          http://www.trackingtraderjoes.com/

          1. I just feel the competition is good for everyone plus I have heard very good things about it as an employer. I like making good choices that are based on value, products, convenience and ethical treatment of employees. I know I can't have everything but when I can I try to make a good choice all around. Plus, I like a good selection of natural and organic products. Epicure and Fresh Foods just don't cut it in those departments. I won't shop at Epicure because I have heard that it treats its employees very badly starting with no vacation. If I am wrong on the latter please enlighten me.

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            1. re: sobeiam

              I respect your viewpoint....competition is good....to a point......We have so many choices now.....another choice may make it tough to keep everyone afloat.....And that's when competition isn't so good......That's kind of what I refer to as the "Wal-Mart Way'.....and I don't shop there......I always encourage folks that like 'organic' or natural products to really look in to those......What those folks really mean to say is "organically sustainable"........but they're just not required to say that.....just yet.......

              I think there are enough choices....but that's just MY opinion.......Party on!

              Emac

              1. re: LargeLife

                San Francisco has so many choices. Los Angeles has so many choices. Chicago has so many choices. Heck, Sacramento has so many choices. South Florida, my friend, does not have that many in comparison. And coincidentally what's one of the things those cities with many choices have in common? They've all got Trader Joe's.

                1. re: lax2mia

                  You're right, lax....Los Angeles, Chicago and San Francisco do have so many choices........And the common thread amongst those cities and adjoining metropolitan areas (populations wise) is that they're much LARGER than the combined areas of Dade-Broward.....and those consumer areas can support the wide array of choices........Income and disposable income are other issues to be looked at........

                  I liked Trader Joe's when I visited......Just not so sure this area would support another establishment like this......

                  Emac

                  1. re: LargeLife

                    I agree and I knew that'd be the argument, that's why I threw in Sacramento (which, due to a fiancee with immediate family there, I "fortunately" get to travel to on a regular basis). The population of Sac and the surrounding areas is not more than that of MD/Broward yet they have a slew of quality chains specific to the area (Bel Air, Raley's, Nugget, etc.) as well as others with a more statewide presence (Safeway, Ralphs). Along with these there's national chains like Trader Joe's (been around since close to the inception), Whole Foods and local gourmet stores like Corti Bros.. So why does an area with a population nowhere near that of Dade/Broward have such a greater variety to choose from? No idea on that, but it demonstrates that this area is woefully underserved.

                    1. re: lax2mia

                      south Fl is woefully under served - it was a great shock to me when I moved to Fl from England to find such awful produce and a poor choice of produce. Coming from London every Tescos, Sainsbury's and Waitrose have the most amazing display of produce, not just 1 type of pear but 6, probably 10 types of apples, great soft fruits, etc etc. All those supermarkets carry their own lines of ready cooked foods which are really good. Marks and Spencers a huge chain is unrivalled. Not to mention huge refridgerators full of cheeses, butters, great yoghurts, fab selections of meats, desserts, as well as all the trashy stuff.

                      I also think Publix is quite expensive - yes there is Walmart and Winn Dixie but ........... yep fine for canned goods, cereals and other regular groceries but south fl is lacking in the fine foods departments.

                      I don't know why we don't have better foods and produce here. An interesting discussion.

            2. having never been to a TJ could somebody please explain what they are all about?

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              1. re: smartie

                Lax...I haven't been to Sacramento....and know nothing about it......But as a generalization.....it takes disposable income (and alot of it) to shop at Whole Foods....Fresh Market of the like......And perhaps SAC has more of that than many areas of South Florida.....which aren't very affluent.......I hit Fresh Market in The Grove and in Vero Beach on a regular basis.......and one look at the cars in the parking lot.....tells you who shops at those kinds of grocery stores.......It's not the same folks that shop at Winn Dixie.......

                I'm a Publix kind of guy.....but I'm a foodie and I hit the high end grocers once and sometimes twice per month.....I peruse the aisles and shelves closely.....always looking for something unusual or fun......Not sure if even I'm the 'typical' shopper for Whole Foods....Fresh Market.....and the like......And I'm blessed to make really decent money.......

                Fun discussion......

                EMac

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                Fresh Market
                2640 S Bayshore Dr, Miami, FL 33133

                1. re: LargeLife

                  That's the thing. The markets I mentioned above (Raley's, Bel Air, Nugget, Safeway and Ralph's) are all supermarket chains a la Publix. It's not about inexpensive vs. expensive out there, it's more about competition (believe me, the affluence factor is much higher in S FLA than Sac, believe me). Imagine a Publix that carried the full line of Columbus salumi products from San Francisco, that had a bakery and cheese section to rival Epicure's, but that you could also buy Clorox and Doritos and that'd be Nugget. Imagine a Publix where you could get grilled tri-tip sandwiches and hard-to-find regional bottled sodas and that'd be Bel Air. Their prices are comparable, and many times cheaper, than Publix.

                  I'm saying that even in the middle market grocery store category we're woefully underserved in what is pretty much a Publix monopoly. We've got the high end covered (me personally, I like Fresh Market over WF just because it's much less preachy (sp)). But for everyday shopping, I know it's possible to have more choices, I just don't know what spell Publix cast over the throngs of Floridians to make them accept just one mediocre chain.

                  Agree, fun discussion.

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                  Fresh Market
                  2640 S Bayshore Dr, Miami, FL 33133

                  1. re: lax2mia

                    I have been reading this board for several years, but almost never post... but this topic is particularily interesting to me.
                    I don't know why there is such a lack of choice is SFl, but I certainly noticed that it exists. Is there some connection between the lack of a large urban farmers market (not farmstand market or resale market, but one with people who grow the unprocessed food that they sell) and the lack of Trader Joes?
                    It feels pretty crazy that St. Louis, MO and Columbus, Ohio and Detroit, Michigan all have large urban markets and TJ but we don't.

                    m

                    1. re: Mega

                      Don't think the lack of market has anything to do with it. When I lived in DC a lot of TJ's produce (I remember basil and tomatoes specifically) were from FL (and cheaper than what Publix would sell for!) so I guess they source where they can get a good price.

                      As for locations, I believe one of the metrics TJs looks at when opening a store is % of college graduates surrounding a given location. Thus the TJ's in Columbus and Raleigh-Durham, both small metro areas but w/ a large number of college grads.

              2. I visited my first Trader Joe's last year while I vacationed in Santa Fe ,New Mexico. Honestly, it was very nice but I couldn't see what all of the excitement was about. Maybe it was this particular store, but It just didn't ring my bell. I will spend a few dollars more here in Palm Beach countyat Publix that I feel I am getting top knotch food and service. Winn-Dixie will probably save me a few bucks but the quality isn't always there. As for steaks, I think Costco is the best for the price.

                1. I just read that Walmart are looking for more PBC sites to build superstores and that Aldi is finally going to get going in So Fl. I have not been in an Aldi though they do have them in the UK - I think it's a pile em high sell em cheap kinda store.

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                  1. re: smartie

                    Aldi is known in the grocery industry as a limited assortment discounter. They carry maybe 2500 products, compared with say 60,000 in a Publix, and stores are accordingly small. Almost all of their products are private label, and the price of each item is generally the lowest in that market area. Interestingly, Aldi owns Trader Joe's in the US, and many of the same suppliers of private label to Aldi are suppliers to TJ. Some of their products are incredible bargains, others are just the cheapest possible product without much regard to quality. Whatever individual products they decide to sell, they will sell a ton of it, sometimes more than even Walmart (worldwide!). Aldi dominates the grocery scene in German and some other European markets, and has been rapidly growing their presence in the US. This is not a specialty food store - just commodities at ridiculously low prices. They also carry weekly general merchandise specials, usually seasonal stuff, that are pretty good bargains. I have had my best luck with their produce; some of their packaged foods - even grated cheeses, packaged meats, and the like - are not of very high quality compared with even store brands.

                    4ZFood
                    www.4zfood.com

                    1. re: 4ZFood

                      You also have to bag yourself and rent shopping carts. Major no frills kind of place. I didn't see the Atlanta store doing well when I lived there.

                      1. re: freakerdude

                        I think the issue comes down to different tastes. Sorry if that sounds really snotty/snobby but I can go into a low income, not dirt poor mind you, neighborhood in NYC and have a better selection of foods - organic/regular/ethnic than here. And I believe it is a con job by Publix if you think its cheaper than other stores. As noted above that TJ sells basil from FL cheaper in DC than Publix does down here. Yes, I think Publix's brand is cheaper but unless I was on welfare I would never do that. After starting to read labels I am really clear about what I do and don't want in my foods. I try to buy whats on sale at Whole Foods or the store brand, shop at Costco or trek to farmers markets such as the one in Hollywood- I will NEVER shop at Wal-Mart. Costco pays its employees the highest in the industry, has very low turnover and gives decent bennies. I really try to be careful about who gets my dollar these days. I never shop at Fresh Markets - I don't consider that a foodie store. It has very limited selection and is very expensive. You would think with what they were charging they'd offer a better selection or choice re: organic, grass fed/sustainable products I hear Whole Foods is opening another store eventually so there must be a market for the stuff. Whole Foods is in several areas in Florida as is Fresh Markets. I don't think it just boils down to money.

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                        Fresh Market
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                      2. re: 4ZFood

                        Aldi dominates the food scene in Germany like Wal Mart but few "conscious" Germans would buy anything there beyond staples, beer, and sim cards.

                    2. (almost) Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Trader Joe's.
                      Including why no FL stores...
                      http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/20/news/...

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                      1. re: CFByrne

                        Great article. Thanks for sharing.

                        1. re: Alfred G

                          So the German management finds us too dumb and can't get stuff to us. It's enough to make one want to relocate.

                          1. re: taiga

                            How about Wegman's in Fl.........

                            1. re: taiga

                              "To pick their next locales, employees look at demographics such as education level. In the past they've even looked at who's subscribing to high-end food and cooking magazines as a way of divining where the epicures are."

                              This really ticks me off. If you look at some of their other locations, Minnesota, Missouri, Illinois, Nebraska, Michigan, Iowa, Indiana? Really? And not south Florida?

                              And the distribution thing - all the other high end chains manage to get food to us, we're not in some 3rd world country or anything.

                              1. re: OysterHo

                                We do have the largest foreign born population of any city in the country, and many of our Spanish speaking brothers and sisters prefer Sedano's and El Presidente to anything we have mentioned. Maybe that's part of their calculation.

                                1. re: taiga

                                  Yes I can give you that, but there are the cities of Ft. Lauderdale, Boca, Palm Beach, Orlando, Tampa, Gainesville, and Jax. We're not a foodie wasteland! lol

                                  WAKE UP TJ!!

                        2. I work for a commercial real estate developer and we own several properties in south florida. About 6 months ago, we were in talks with Trader Joe's to redevelop one of our properties in Miami Beach and add a Trader Joe's, so I can say first hand that they are definitely exploring the possibility of opening stores in South Florida. Unfortunately, the economics didn't work at that locaton.

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                            1. re: taiga

                              as I have posted before make sure you submit a location request on the website

                              maybe that will help speed the process

                              http://www.traderjoes.com/about/locat...

                          1. soooooo now that Aldi's has moved into Lauderdale Lakes, are my chances greater of seeing a TJs i my future? I sure hope so.

                            I just loaded up on non perishables for my move next week, would much rather buy local then fill my bag with "just Bananas".

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                            1. re: Asumnuthin

                              I think many of you are missing the point here. South Florida is home to RETIREES! I have never been in a group of them where the topic of converstaion was ever where they found the highest quality of anything. Much more likely to be where the found the CHEAPEST...
                              In response to Taiga's comment "So the German management finds us too dumb and can't get stuff to us. It's enough to make one want to relocate." Are you forgetting why we live in So FL? It is not for the high standards of cuisine and food...it is for the sunshine! Otherwise we would surely live somewhere else...maybe somewhere with a Trader Joes. Although I visited them when I lived in Boston and never found them so special to be worthy of this level of lobbying.

                              1. re: VaughnRmnE

                                Funny...the first and only Trader Joe's that I was ever in was in the Boston area....Really liked it alot...alot of cool stuff....But I'm with you...as much as I liked it....I'm just fine with Fresh Market....and don't think we need more competition in this area....Would like to see Fresh Market do well...prosper.....stick around....and maintain what I think is a great concept.....If you don't like what they offer....don't go!....If you don't like their prices...again...don't go!.....There's a place for Fresh Market......

                                EMac66
                                Ft. Pierce, FL

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                                Fresh Market
                                18295 Biscayne Blvd, North Miami Beach, FL 33160

                                1. re: LargeLife

                                  I do not understand how fresh maket would be compettion for trader joes. TJs only stocks their own products, its their own specific stuff i will be missing. it wouldnt stop me from patroinzing FM, just add to the varity of SoFla eats!

                                2. re: VaughnRmnE

                                  "VaughnRmnE "not for the high standards of cuisine and food"
                                  if you really believe that, maybe you are "missing the point" of these boards

                                  SoFla is not only a place of the retired...

                                  And TJ's is cheap and high quality, thats what makes it great!

                                3. re: Asumnuthin

                                  I was just driving on Hillsboro Blvd west of Jog and saw an Aldi's and was wondering what the heck it was. Glad I read this thread again.

                                4. I grew up in Pasadena, CA (where Trader Joe's first opened) and it is one of the 2 stores I miss the most (the other is Cost Plus World Market). TJ's has really great prices (like $3.99 for 13oz of Joe's Dark Roast coffee - which is very tasty I might add) and a wonderful variety of foods. Like someone else posted - it's their specific brands that I miss - but then again, I've been eating Trader Joe's food for the better part of my life. Funny, I just came back from L.A. 3 days ago and my friends really tripped out when I told them there are any Trader Joe's in Miami - they couldn't imagine not having one nearby.

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                                  1. re: curlscj

                                    Pouting BIG time. Just read Trader Joe's is opening their first Texas location soon in the Dallas area. So they ARE breaking into new territory - just not here in Florida YET! Our Tampa Bay area has many upscale stores...certainly it would warrant a TJ's, as well as at least 5 other FL Metro areas! Well - a girl can dream.....or take a road trip with several coolers!

                                    1. re: triff

                                      I also read that In-N-Out is moving to Texas. Hopefully Florida will follow suit in both regards. I suppose I could always move to Texas!

                                      1. re: triff

                                        When I wrote this it was only a dream, but pigs CAN fly and wishes do come true! Yay for TJ's FINALLY opening in Florida soon in Naples. After that, bet there will be more Florida locations - but for now - Naples is going to be a foodie destination for thousands of Floridians!

                                    2. yes, they are here in South Florida but not on the east coast. One being built in Naples. Good news though... I am sure they will be on their way soon.

                                      1. It's official!!! Trader Joe's is making progress on a deal to open in Palm Beach Gardens at PGA and Prosperity Farms Road in the Holy Smoke's BBQ and Snuggery plaza, also where Anthony's Coal Fired pizza is located.

                                        The news this morning said they have been negotiating with the plaza for years but the economy had it's effects on stalling the progress. So, 3 miles away from me should be opening this place that I know nothing about, except the fact that some people would give an arm and a leg for TJ's to open near them!

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                                        1. re: freakerdude

                                          Keep your fingers crossed. TJ's is very secretive when it comes to new locations so until there's an announcement from them keep your expectations tempered. Aside from that, should it open, it'll save me a lot of gas not having to schlep to Naples (though it may take just as long to drive across Alligator Alley as it would to go up I-95 from Miami). They've got great and unique products and they're prices are incredible. You'll be lucky.

                                          1. re: lax2mia

                                            If and when TJ's comes to South Florida.....the Palm Beach area makes perfect sense....as that's where the money is!.....A ton of snowbirds with bulging pockets of cash!....That's where it belongs.....Dade and Broward both have wealth but Palm Beach has more...way more....I went to TJs outside of Boston.....it was nice...it was a fun place to shop....but I haven't spent any time LONGING for the place....But I know alot of folks here like it....and that's good enough for me.....

                                            EMac
                                            Ft. Pierce, FL

                                            1. re: LargeLife

                                              TJ's doesn't seem up your alley and that's fine, but I'm curious as to what prompted your misguided perception that Trader Joe's target is wealthy areas of people with bulging pockets of cash? It's the equivalent of saying Ikea should open in Palm Beach because of the wealth. It's not a shop like Dean & Deluca or Epicure. It's definitely more downscale and their prices are ridiculously reasonable. Again, just curious what formed your opinion. As and aside, they've got tons of prepped meat for grilling. I get the feeling you like to grill :)

                                              1. re: lax2mia

                                                I am ALL about ridiculously reasonable but also want many different choices. I have no idea about the brands or items they carry but I do know that I cannot afford to shop at Whole Foods. So I am hoping TJs fills in the gap for people like me.

                                                1. re: freakerdude

                                                  Trader Joe's prices are nowhere near Whole Foods and they're cheaper on a lot of things than Publix. A couple of weeks ago I bought 3 lemons at Publix for $1.99. At Trader Joe's they had a one pound bag of organic lemons (about six to a bag) for the same price. That's twice the number of lemons, and organic for that matter, for the same price.

                                                   
                                          2. re: freakerdude

                                            FD!! I purchased a MONSTER MOBILE BBQ PIT......will be up and running soon......working on getting in to the Tequesta Farmers Market this fall.....I will serve you some pretty good BBQ!...

                                            EMac
                                            Ft. Pierce, FL

                                            1. re: LargeLife

                                              Keep me posted on the Tequesta farmers market dates.

                                            2. re: freakerdude

                                              The PB local TV news report made it sound very promising when I saw it but now it appears not so promising in the very near future.

                                              Buzz kill from Trader Joe's reply as posted in the B-PB New Times: "Palm Beach, Florida is not in our two year plan."

                                              http://tinyurl.com/9hl6h3w

                                              1. re: freakerdude

                                                It's official now that the property owner has released the info. Plans to renovate the space starts fall 2013.

                                                http://tinyurl.com/actum6z

                                                1. re: freakerdude

                                                  I totally dig TJs. Go to everyone I can find. It's great for fast snacks, cheaper produce and incredibly good deals on wine. And their TJ labeled stuff is always good. Their "cookie batter" spread is amazing and has even fewer carbs than most peanut butter. I think you'll love it.

                                                  1. re: freakerdude

                                                    PGA/Prosperity loaciton in Palm Beach Gardens.....renovation appears to be under way.

                                                    1. re: freakerdude

                                                      The renovation is going extremely slow. Tenants had to move within the plaza to make way for TJ's. The building space has only been demolished but no new construction yet.

                                                      1. re: freakerdude

                                                        I haven't seen any movement on any of the PBC locations. But I sure don't want to drive to the Miami location. That place sounds like a nightmare to get to... I was hoping early 2014 for one to open. Fingers crossed.

                                                        1. re: ChowShoe

                                                          Wellington location will be first of the PBC locations open -- May 16... No word on timing for the others...

                                                2. Sarasota TJ's, opening 7 September!!!!

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                                                  1. re: ospreycove

                                                    Well Lax....my perception was based off my actual visit to TJs in Boston......I did see bargains.....I also saw some high end stuff that was pricey.....I liked the place alot.....I do see that type of place doing well in monied areas.....that's my perception....Definitely like to grill....I hope that TJs comes here and does well.....

                                                    Sarasota is an ideal place.....Go over that way 3 or 4 times per year.....and there's a TON of cash there.....

                                                    EMac
                                                    Ft. Pierce

                                                  2. For the curious, here's a guide to the Trader Joe's in Naples with samples of products and prices. I'm already hankering for another trip.

                                                    http://www.fourcourses.net/2012/08/tr...

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                                                    1. re: lax2mia

                                                      Miami herald wrote TJs signed a lease in Pincrest....
                                                      No PBCounty as of yet

                                                      1. re: Asumnuthin

                                                        New rumor of Trader Joe's coming to Delray at Federal HWY and Linton:

                                                        "Also under consideration by the city of Delray Beach: Turning an office complex at the southeast corner of Federal Highway and Linton Boulevard into a shopping and restaurant complex known as Delray Place.

                                                        Harden, the city’s manager, said the developer has indicated that the popular Trader Joe’s grocery is interested in the site — but it needs a decision fast on the land. Joe Carosella, the property’s owner, did not return a phone call seeking comment."

                                                        http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/bus...

                                                        1. re: coffeyucf

                                                          Interesting because rumor has it the northeast corner is going to be a Fresh Market. That would be funny if suddenly we had both FM and TJ.

                                                          Carrabba's and Panera supposedly will stay but the rest is going to the scrap heap. That remaining area seems kind of small to me for a FM location, but I guess we'll know soon. Most of those stores (Irish Pub, Chinese Resto) have already left.

                                                          1. re: CFByrne

                                                            There is a publix on the nw corner too!

                                                      2. Sounds like it almost fell through... but further talk on the Delray Trader Joe's indicates it is moving forward - At Linton and Federal

                                                        http://thecoastalstar.ning.com/profil...

                                                        And yes, also Fresh Market

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                                                        1. re: CFByrne

                                                          I looked in the window at the projected Trader Joe's in Pinecrest and there is no evidence that anything is going on in the old Borders.

                                                            1. re: Auger

                                                              Rode by on the bike and looked in the window on Saturday; they are working inside and outside.

                                                              1. re: taiga

                                                                Drove by today, and they're demolishing the whole building. Last week I thought they were just gutting the place.

                                                                1. re: Auger

                                                                  Demolition done; there is half a completed new building now.

                                                          1. Boca get ready for 2014 because this was just released in the news.

                                                            Trader Joe’s will open a 12,500-square-foot store at 855 South Federal Highway in Boca Raton in 2014

                                                            http://tinyurl.com/puutf3c

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                                                              1. re: freakerdude

                                                                I wish it was in Fort Lauderdale, but this is certainly better than the other locations...Excited here!

                                                                  1. re: freakerdude

                                                                    This Boca opening does NOT mean the rumored Delray deal is dead.

                                                                    Last night, Delray commissioners gave final approval for the Delray Place development.

                                                                    That's the SE corner of Linton and Federal site where, among many other retail stores and restaurants, TJ's has been mentioned to be coming.

                                                                    1. re: CFByrne

                                                                      Boom.

                                                                      "Rest easy, Delray Beach. Rumors have been confirmed: Trader Joe's is coming to the neighborhood.

                                                                      The quirky and highly coveted grocery store plans to open October 2014 at the southeast corner of Federal Highway and Linton Boulevard, the site of the upcoming upscale shopping center Delray Place, the company told the Sun Sentinel."

                                                                      http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/...

                                                                      1. re: CFByrne

                                                                        I was really surprised as they are locating in East Boca AND
                                                                        East Delray but it's great!

                                                                    2. re: freakerdude

                                                                      They just asked Boca for permission to expand the store from the original plans and were given an OK. They were pressed for an opening date and they said May (according to Sun Sentinel).

                                                                      1. Wellington you are up for the 4th planned PBC store. Wow, its a south Florida TJ expansion explosion.

                                                                        http://tinyurl.com/l55rrh2

                                                                        1. Waiting impatiently for at least ONE of these new stores to open... looks like we won't have any till late 2014?

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                                                                            1. re: LiveRock

                                                                              Yay... now for a report from someone who's been down there? Did they open on time? Are they all they were cracked up to be? We'll check it out in a few weeks.

                                                                              1. re: Kajikit

                                                                                The one in Miami is open. There are a bunch of photos today at at the Sun Sentinel online.

                                                                                http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#sectio...

                                                                                1. re: Kajikit

                                                                                  I went to Trader Joe's on Saturday, and the rollout was like that of the Affordable Care Act/Obamacare. They were unable to provide sufficient parking which blocked US1, which irritated drivers, which lifted tension, and stressed police. Inside, it was a mess with broken coffee grinders, not enough prepared food, and shortages of a number of things. Still, when people get used to it, they are going to like it. It may take a few weeks to iron out the problems, but we are all better off having it.

                                                                                  1. re: taiga

                                                                                    I think I'll wait a month and let them settle in... like brand new restaurants, things never go smoothly at a grand opening.

                                                                                  2. re: Kajikit

                                                                                    I ended up there three times in the last weekend. I think they did an incredibly good job handling the volume of people, considering the swarms in the store. Parking is likely to be an issue going forward. The adjacent malls east of US1 are all towing interlopers, so the best bet for parking is across US1 on the West side. You can pay for parking at Dadeland metrorail station or residential/mall building across the street, or risk it at the nearby Publix as my friend did.

                                                                                    Very friendly employees, and great Trader Joes products at prices 1-2 dollars below Publix. My favorites were organic chicken broth at $1.99, nice burratta at $4.99, and all the impulse sweets at the checkout line. Coconut-crusted cashews? Oh yeah.

                                                                              2. From today's sun sentinel:
                                                                                "The grocery chain will open a store next year at 1590 N. Federal Highway in Fort Lauderdale, north of Sunrise Boulevard, within the Office Depot plaza.

                                                                                The store is part of a major move into South Florida for the popular grocer. The area's first store opened last fall in the Pinecrest neighborhood of Miami-Dade County, but six more are planned in Broward and Palm Beach counties.

                                                                                The first Trader Joe's in Palm Beach County will open May 16 at 2877 S. State Road 7 in Wellington.

                                                                                Other stores opening this year:

                                                                                Boca Raton, 855 S. Federal Highway

                                                                                Delray Beach, along Federal Highway and Linton Boulevard

                                                                                Palm Beach Gardens, along PGA Boulevard and Prosperity Farms Road

                                                                                Pembroke Pines, along Pines Boulevard and Flamingo Road

                                                                                Opening dates for those stores have not been announced."

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                                                                                1. re: non sequitur

                                                                                  I visited Trader Joe's outside of Boston a few years back and thought it was a great place. Fun selection of stuff and of course "Two Buck Chuck" was an attractive draw.

                                                                                  Been to the one in Pinecrest. It's ok. The "3 Buck Chuck" is awesome. But after that, what's the draw? Nothing there is inexpensive.. Selection is solid and store in very nice. But where's the attraction? Fresh Market quality (overall) and selection is superior (and the prices there reflect that).

                                                                                  I'm not trying to be a wise-guy here. I went (twice), I saw and I just wasn't overwhelmed or impressed. What didn't I see that other people do?

                                                                                  Thanks!

                                                                                  EMac
                                                                                  Ft. Pierce, FL....via Homestead

                                                                                  1. re: LargeLife

                                                                                    A recent study showed fully 27% of all the words on the Internet involve debates between TJ fanatics and "I just don't get it" detractors.

                                                                                    #notreally #butprobablyclose #Imnotgettinginvolved

                                                                                    :-)

                                                                                    1. re: LargeLife

                                                                                      OK, I'll take the bait. Two observations:

                                                                                      First, I'd love to know where you shop to think that nothing at Trader Joe's is inexpensive. Pretty much every item I see at TJ's is cheaper than the comparable item at Publix. That said, Publix has taken advantage of their almost monopoly in urban areas to drive up prices and I don't see that abating until there's more competition.

                                                                                      Point two, TJ's produce is not great and I agree I'd take Fresh Market's over TJ's in that area any day (but remember, you're paying for it). Overall selection is also better at pretty much any supermarket because TJ's business model is to have a single producer for each product so it's unfair to compare to a regular supermarket in that aspect. One funny observation I'd made, Trader Joe's carries as many brands and types of authentic maple syrup as Publix carries fake syrups. That said, the quality of the products they do have are a steal for the money, particularly organic and vegan items. And there are some items that are unique to Trader Joe's that you're just not going to find anywhere else. Frozen French macarons, Korean scallion pancakes, steel cut oatmeal with quinoa and South African smoke seasoning are just a few of the things that you can't find anywhere else, regardless of price.

                                                                                      1. re: lax2mia

                                                                                        >South African smoke seasoning

                                                                                        ++1

                                                                                        1. re: CFByrne

                                                                                          When I'm looking for South African specialties, I go to Meal in a Pie.

                                                                                          http://www.yelp.com/biz/meal-in-a-pie...

                                                                                          Just sayin' . . .

                                                                                          1. re: southocean

                                                                                            I love Meal in a Pie! The chicken curry is habit forming and the owners could not be nicer folks. (It doesn't hurt that it's a block and a half from my house!)

                                                                                              1. re: gblcsw

                                                                                                Following the link (above) shows it to be at:
                                                                                                4440 NE 20th Ave
                                                                                                Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308

                                                                                                Just south of Floranada Road, just west of Federal, across the street from the great Smitty's Butcher Shop.

                                                                                                1. re: southocean

                                                                                                  Thanks! I use Smitty's, but never noticed the Meal in a Pie place!

                                                                                        2. re: lax2mia

                                                                                          Most Publix grocery items are .50 to a whopping $1 more than exact same items at Target or Wal Mart. After I did my price comparisons of items like Heinz low sugar ketchup, Ken's dressings, and Tabasco sauces, I finally realized how overpriced Publix really was. Publix's BOGO is kind of a smoke screen for their standard high prices.

                                                                                          I've never heard of South African smoke....so I had to look it up.

                                                                                          1. re: freakerdude

                                                                                            I am in the food business, and write about groceries and grocery stores, so I am hyper aware of what things cost throughout a supermarket. Publix is a good 10-15% higher priced than what I am accustomed to up North. That being said, it kind of is what it is, and you get numb to it (even though it truly annoys me). Another thing that aggravates me is that they openly throw away bruised produce, or anything that is PERFECT to buy and use that day. Up North, there is always a place or a rack in the back of the produce dept. that sells "use today" items... which was a real bargain, and in my opinion, a win-win for the store as well as the consumer. I've asked, and they don't even donate the stuff. What a waste!

                                                                                            1. re: LETTUCEINLOVE

                                                                                              I was also recently shocked to hear from a native Austin Texan that Whole Foods is 30% more expensive here. Just adds to FL being overpriced/high cost of living and a generally crappy pay scale considering... Like you said it is what it is. I didn't know about the imperfect wasted food but it doesn't surprise me bc I've also heard from others that SoFla is all about the flashy and we have more Mercedes drive through in an hour than in various other states. Not that surprised, but it is still sad and a huge waste.

                                                                                              1. re: ChinaChao

                                                                                                I drive what you would probably consider a flashy car... but wasting is wasting. I could feed an army 5 star food with what they throw away. I love Florida, have met great people and have eaten some delicious food, that I would gladly pay for if it was worth it.

                                                                                        3. re: LargeLife

                                                                                          Shopping at Trader Joe's is more skill than art. In my opinion, it is far better than many think. Three buck Chuck is symbolic. Its chocolate is great. Cheese is great and cheaper than other competitors. Olive oils, nuts, pasta, coffee, prepared foods, hummus, all good. There are lots of organic things, but they require scavenger hunting ability.

                                                                                          1. re: taiga

                                                                                            For those that "don't get" the whole "Trader Joe's thing", I would say... take a few minute to browse around here

                                                                                            http://www.traderjoes.com/digin/page/1

                                                                                            Click through to some pages... read the detailed descriptions of their products...

                                                                                            I am loving TJ's - now in Delray - much more than I ever expected.

                                                                                            I'll still go to WF or a butcher for meat, and Publix for soap etc.

                                                                                            But TJ's is my first stop for most everything else now.

                                                                                            1. re: CFByrne

                                                                                              Can I just congratulate us all for having the ability to have a thoughtful conversation w differing opinions and w/o insults or personal attacks.

                                                                                              My wife's been converted, but I'm still in the "don't quite get all the hype" camp!

                                                                                      2. All very good points. Again, I wasn't trying to be a wise-guy. I just felt underwhelmed there. Maybe it was my expectation level. But great points were made, especially the south African smoke. And it was never like I wasn't going to go again. But the place just didn't sweep me off my feet.

                                                                                        Still a Fresh Market guy though. But TJs has its place in our food landscape. Except for Winn Dixie I tend to hit Publix, Whole Foods and Fresh Market and all for different reasons. Also hit Costco and Sam's too.

                                                                                        EMac
                                                                                        Ft. Pierce, FL....via Homestead

                                                                                        1. Open in Wellington and reasonably crazy. Happy days are here!

                                                                                           
                                                                                          1. "Just six weeks after opening its first Palm Beach County location in Wellington, Trader Joe’s announced the grand opening dates for three additional county stores.

                                                                                            First on deck: Delray Beach, which opens Friday, Sept. 5th at 1851 S. Federal Highway.

                                                                                            Next up: Palm Beach Gardens, which opens Friday, Sept. 19th at the PGA Plaza, 2560 PGA Blvd.

                                                                                            And finally, the funky grocery market opens in Boca Raton on Friday, Sept. 26th at 855 S. Federal Highway.

                                                                                            http://feastpb.blog.palmbeachpost.com...

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                                                                                            1. re: CFByrne

                                                                                              Great reporting CF!!

                                                                                              Thanks!

                                                                                              EMac
                                                                                              Ft. Pierce, FL

                                                                                            2. Checked out my first TJ's in Palm Beach Gardens. I had no idea what to expect. It's small and it is not a one stop shop for groceries. However, they do have some really good prices on most items in comparison to Publix. One item I found to be awesome is the Coffee Bean Blast ice cream. It beats any coffee ice cream I have had. It has a strong coffee flavor and dense and creamy. Salted carmel gelato is good too.

                                                                                              They have produce specials that draw you in like .19/lb bananas and such. The salad bags are much cheaper at 1.99 and overall, the produce seems more reasonable. I bought an whole stalk of brussels for 2.99 that was easily over half the cost at other places.

                                                                                              Their 'less is more' belief seems to work. The Fortune mag link from CFByrne is a good read http://archive.fortune.com/2010/08/20...

                                                                                              Swapping selection for value turns out not to be much of a tradeoff. Customers may think they want variety, but in reality too many options can lead to shopping paralysis. "People are worried they'll regret the choice they made," says Barry Schwartz, a Swarthmore professor and author of The Paradox of Choice. "People don't want to feel they made a mistake." Studies have found that buyers enjoy purchases more if they know the pool of options isn't quite so large. Trader Joe's organic creamy unsalted peanut butter will be more satisfying if there are only nine other peanut butters a shopper might have purchased instead of 39.

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                                                                                              1. re: freakerdude

                                                                                                FD - - A very interesting take on Trader Joe's. Well done man! I like going to the TJ's down here in Kendall / Miami occasionally. Just to walk around and see what's what and I always walk out with a few items of interest. I'm more of a Fresh Market and Publix king of guy but TJs has their place in my heart too and they're doing well so alot of folks enjoy the place too. I just don't think it could be my main grocery outlet.

                                                                                                Great job, FD you ol' foodie you.....

                                                                                                EMac
                                                                                                Ft. Pierce, FL

                                                                                              2. Are their Wegman's in that part of the world?

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                                                                                                1. re: DVLPDX54

                                                                                                  There are no Wegmans in South Florida at this time.

                                                                                                2. trader Joes has been open now for a couple of weeks in Delray Beach at Linton and Federal. If you stop in there they have the Trader Joes greek yogurt with honey. absolutlely to die for