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Jun 9, 2010 02:33 PM

Good food and old people dancing

Does this combo exist anymore in Manhattan?

Who would have thought I would yearn for The Rainbow Room?

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  1. People complain about having to wear a jacket to Le Bernardin. Welcome to America, where civilization is dead.

    No, there is no more of what you are describing.

    There is Momofucku instead.

    Le Bernardin
    155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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    1. re: gutsofsteel

      That jacket discussion with regard to Le Bernardin was about *lunch*. There was no mention of objecting to wearing one at dinner.

      I've rarely, if ever, read any objection to wearing a jacket at dinner at those restaurants that require them. Interestingly, when we were at EMP last night, every gentleman was wearing a jacket and, as you know, EMP does not require them. So, "civilization" is not completely dead yet. However, NYC restaurants with a band and ballroom dancing.... :(

      1. re: RGR

        It's all a continuum. Jackets at formal restaurants at EVERY meal is appropriate. I lament that ties are not worn. I lament the decline of decency in dress and behavior in general. Now we have Chang. I wonder what will be next. No wonder it's so much more pleasant for grownups to dine in good restaurants in Europe.

        1. re: gutsofsteel

          Times and fashion sense change, that's why we are not still wearing powdered wigs.

          1. re: MVNYC

            And women were not allowed to enter certain establishments in pants. Until Ms. Nan Kempner would have none of that.


            1. re: chow_gal

              In Boston, it was Kate Hepburn. ;)

    2. During the summer, you might try combining Bar Boulud with Dancing Under the Stars at Lincoln Center.

      Bar Boulud
      1900 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

      1. Depends what you mean by "old"? We go to S.O.B. (Sounds of Brazil) downtown on Varick St. Live Salsa bands, floor show, dancing and decent reasonably priced food. The crowd ranges from late 20's to late 60's.

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        1. re: Motosport

          When I think "old people dancing," it's Big Band (think Glenn Miller, etc.) ballroom-style that comes to mind. At least, that's the way it was in the Rainbow Room.

          1. re: RGR

            Anyone remember the place that was black tie on Sat nights with a big band?
            Went there for a wedding anniversary when I lived there in the late 80's, early 90's.
            It was great fun, like going to a wedding where you didn't know anyone. The waiter would come get us off the dance floor when our next course was served.

            1. re: saeyedoc

              as steely dan would sing: those days are gone forever, over a long time ago.
              Those very truly the days my friends.
              now i get incensed when the great unwashed wont remove their baseball hats at the dinner table.
              every great civilization declines and falls.
              hence no need to be on a diet or to have money in the bank
              eating well is the best revenge
              as the immortal warren zevon said when asked re his terminal condition
              he replied; boy that sandwich was good
              but don't get me started
              my biggest claim in life is that my mother's cousin trigger alpert was genn miller's bass player and arranger

        2. Reviving an old thread. Looking for a place to recommend to my parents for their 30th anniversary (they're from suburban Jersey). Perhaps a place that plays big band, classics (something Michael Buble would cover) or 60's do wop?

          I hope there's gotta be at least a couple in Manhattan. Tried search keywords on Yelp to no avail. If it doesn't exist, it's really sad. I love that kind of music too and if I were a couple in my 50's and 60's, I'd have a blast at these places. I feel like there's gotta be a market for this.

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          1. re: deepfry7

            I think the market dispersed to the suburbs. Have you tried asking on the New Jersey board? You may be more likely to find places like that in NJ than in Manhattan.

            There are jazz venues with reasonable food if they'd like some live music and a "glam night in the city" feel by coming into Manhattan.

            1. re: barberinibee

              What about Sofia at the Edison for one of these jazz venues? I can attest that the music is vintage and wonderful (Vince Giordano), but can't vouch for the food.

          2. We live in Westchester so for our 30th went up to Le Chateau. Good food, hokey and old fashioned mix of slow 40s and 50s dancing and "rhumba" with folks who are too "white" for their own good. I overheard people talking about who they are still in touch with from "day school". Jacket required. A bit of a trip from N.J. unless you stay overnight. Closer to you is the Spirit of New York Hudson dinner cruise, though I can't recommend that much from either a dining or dancing standpoint.