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seal Jun 9, 2010 02:33 PM

Does this combo exist anymore in Manhattan?

Who would have thought I would yearn for The Rainbow Room?

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    gutsofsteel Jun 9, 2010 02:55 PM

    People complain about having to wear a jacket to Le Bernardin. Welcome to America, where civilization is dead.

    No, there is no more of what you are describing.

    There is Momofucku instead.

    Le Bernardin
    155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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    1. re: gutsofsteel
      RGR Jun 9, 2010 05:02 PM

      That jacket discussion with regard to Le Bernardin was about *lunch*. There was no mention of objecting to wearing one at dinner.

      I've rarely, if ever, read any objection to wearing a jacket at dinner at those restaurants that require them. Interestingly, when we were at EMP last night, every gentleman was wearing a jacket and, as you know, EMP does not require them. So, "civilization" is not completely dead yet. However, NYC restaurants with a band and ballroom dancing.... :(

      1. re: RGR
        gutsofsteel Jun 9, 2010 05:06 PM

        It's all a continuum. Jackets at formal restaurants at EVERY meal is appropriate. I lament that ties are not worn. I lament the decline of decency in dress and behavior in general. Now we have Chang. I wonder what will be next. No wonder it's so much more pleasant for grownups to dine in good restaurants in Europe.

        1. re: gutsofsteel
          MVNYC Jun 10, 2010 12:26 PM

          Times and fashion sense change, that's why we are not still wearing powdered wigs.

          1. re: MVNYC
            chow_gal Jun 10, 2010 12:53 PM

            And women were not allowed to enter certain establishments in pants. Until Ms. Nan Kempner would have none of that.


            1. re: chow_gal
              ChefJune Jun 10, 2010 01:09 PM

              In Boston, it was Kate Hepburn. ;)

    2. JungMann Jun 10, 2010 08:07 AM

      During the summer, you might try combining Bar Boulud with Dancing Under the Stars at Lincoln Center.

      Bar Boulud
      1900 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

      1. Motosport Jun 10, 2010 08:49 AM

        Depends what you mean by "old"? We go to S.O.B. (Sounds of Brazil) downtown on Varick St. Live Salsa bands, floor show, dancing and decent reasonably priced food. The crowd ranges from late 20's to late 60's.

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        1. re: Motosport
          RGR Jun 10, 2010 10:16 AM

          When I think "old people dancing," it's Big Band (think Glenn Miller, etc.) ballroom-style that comes to mind. At least, that's the way it was in the Rainbow Room.

          1. re: RGR
            saeyedoc Jun 10, 2010 10:33 AM

            Anyone remember the place that was black tie on Sat nights with a big band?
            Went there for a wedding anniversary when I lived there in the late 80's, early 90's.
            It was great fun, like going to a wedding where you didn't know anyone. The waiter would come get us off the dance floor when our next course was served.

            1. re: saeyedoc
              foodismylife Jun 10, 2010 01:07 PM

              as steely dan would sing: those days are gone forever, over a long time ago.
              Those very truly the days my friends.
              now i get incensed when the great unwashed wont remove their baseball hats at the dinner table.
              every great civilization declines and falls.
              hence no need to be on a diet or to have money in the bank
              eating well is the best revenge
              as the immortal warren zevon said when asked re his terminal condition
              he replied; boy that sandwich was good
              but don't get me started
              my biggest claim in life is that my mother's cousin trigger alpert was genn miller's bass player and arranger

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          deepfry7 Jan 19, 2013 06:18 PM

          Reviving an old thread. Looking for a place to recommend to my parents for their 30th anniversary (they're from suburban Jersey). Perhaps a place that plays big band, classics (something Michael Buble would cover) or 60's do wop?

          I hope there's gotta be at least a couple in Manhattan. Tried search keywords on Yelp to no avail. If it doesn't exist, it's really sad. I love that kind of music too and if I were a couple in my 50's and 60's, I'd have a blast at these places. I feel like there's gotta be a market for this.

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          1. re: deepfry7
            barberinibee Jan 21, 2013 05:41 AM

            I think the market dispersed to the suburbs. Have you tried asking on the New Jersey board? You may be more likely to find places like that in NJ than in Manhattan.

            There are jazz venues with reasonable food if they'd like some live music and a "glam night in the city" feel by coming into Manhattan.

            1. re: barberinibee
              saticoy Jan 21, 2013 11:19 AM

              What about Sofia at the Edison for one of these jazz venues? I can attest that the music is vintage and wonderful (Vince Giordano), but can't vouch for the food.

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            addictedtolunch Jan 20, 2013 04:44 PM

            We live in Westchester so for our 30th went up to Le Chateau. Good food, hokey and old fashioned mix of slow 40s and 50s dancing and "rhumba" with folks who are too "white" for their own good. I overheard people talking about who they are still in touch with from "day school". Jacket required. A bit of a trip from N.J. unless you stay overnight. Closer to you is the Spirit of New York Hudson dinner cruise, though I can't recommend that much from either a dining or dancing standpoint.

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