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Looking for diamond in the rough (40th & Park)

Desidero Jun 2, 2010 06:23 AM

I am looking for recommendations in the vicinity of 40th & Park. My dining companions are not adventurous eaters. I'd like to keep the bill under $60/person. I am considering La Fonda del Sol, but am open to other suggestions. Any thoughts?

Many thanks.

La Fonda del Sol
200 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10020

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    travpard RE: Desidero Jun 2, 2010 06:31 AM

    Les Halles is a good choice.

    Les Halles
    411 Park Avenue South, New York, NY 10016

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      sam1 RE: travpard Jun 2, 2010 06:42 AM

      i respectfully disagree on les halles. the place is a horrible restaurant for the last 10 years. back in the day, it was a solid bistro. these days, the quality is horrible, the service is a joke, and the patrons are mostly tourists thinking bourdain still cooks there.

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        stephaniec25 RE: sam1 Jun 2, 2010 07:18 AM

        I agree - Les Halles ranks with the worst restaurants I have eaten at and it's very uncomfortable and about 100 degrees when I went last summer.

        What about Artisinal? The food is good and great for not-so-adventurous types.

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          Desidero RE: stephaniec25 Jun 2, 2010 07:27 AM

          Artisianal is exactly what I'm looking for. It's where I took these same guests last year, so I want a change of venue for this visit. Any other thoughts?


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          tab10014 RE: sam1 Jun 2, 2010 07:43 AM

          if its so bad... how often do you go?
          i was there 3 weeks ago and it was very good
          and nobody thinks boudain is there

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            eeee RE: tab10014 Jun 2, 2010 08:01 AM

            I can certainly think of worse things than going to Artisanal once a year! Love that place. That said, Rare Bar and Grill is on 37th and Lexington. I like the place (though I adore Artisanal) and it should work for your situation.

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              Bob Martinez RE: tab10014 Jun 2, 2010 08:49 AM

              "nobody thinks boudain is there"

              Yes they do.


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                kathryn RE: Bob Martinez Jun 2, 2010 09:00 AM

                What Bob said. I have out of town relatives and friends who ask me to go to Bourdain's restaurants, and I have to break it to them that he's not there any more, and they added a ton extra seats after he left, sacrificing quality...

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          Desidero RE: Desidero Jun 2, 2010 11:12 AM

          I appreciate all your responses. I've been to Les Halles and wasn't too impressed, so I'd like to go elsewhere. Any thoughts besides Rare Bar & Grill (which looks like a good option)?

          Thanks again.

          Les Halles
          15 John Street, New York, NY 10038

          Rare Bar & Grill
          152 W 26th St, New York, NY 10001

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            stephaniec25 RE: Desidero Jun 2, 2010 01:49 PM

            Zengo sounds interesting - I haven't gone yet though but maybe some other CHers can give you more info.

            622 3rd Ave, New York, NY 10016

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              RGR RE: stephaniec25 Jun 2, 2010 03:10 PM

              The chef who opened Zengo left very shortly thereafter. Not a good sign....

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                boredough RE: RGR Mar 10, 2011 01:18 PM

                We were there in early November and really enjoyed it. Was that before or after the chef left?

            2. jon RE: Desidero Jun 2, 2010 03:06 PM

              how about convivio? it's in tudor city (about 42rd and 2nd). very good italian-ish food, pasta, fish, steak, etc. if you order right you can keep it under $60/head.

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                ellenost RE: jon Mar 10, 2011 01:11 PM

                Convivio recently closed for business. Would Cibo work (41 St. & Second Ave.)?

                767 Second Avenue, New York, NY 10017

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                  Riverman500 RE: ellenost Mar 10, 2011 01:23 PM

                  The original post is ten months old.

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                    ellenost RE: Riverman500 Mar 10, 2011 01:43 PM

                    Thanks. One never knows if someone else might be helped by it.

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                RGR RE: Desidero Jun 2, 2010 03:08 PM

                I think La Fonda de Sol is an excellent choice. The Spanish-style cuisine is delicious, and the dining room has very attractive decor.

                La Fonda del Sol photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

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                  greygarious RE: RGR Mar 10, 2011 01:59 PM

                  I realize this is a revived post, and that LFDS opened a couple of years ago. Just wondering if there is a connection to the LFDS that was somewhere around 50th and 5th ages ago. I am over 60 and have lived near Boston most of my life but grew up on LI and remember that as a teenager, it was the first nice restaurant I went to by myself.

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                  sexyLAMBCHOPx RE: Desidero Jun 16, 2010 08:53 AM

                  Resto but ask if the fish is fresh!

                  111 East 29th Street, New York, NY 10016

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                    ashea9167 RE: Desidero Mar 10, 2011 12:35 PM


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